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WiFi self power-on, font problem

Hi everybody,
sometimes happends me that during call wifi gets automatically power on, then i have to manually shut it off...Where can be the problem?
Next thing is im still searching for solution how to get smaller font in Start Menu, where latest programs, Programs, Settings etc. are...Im not using TF3D, and when it is in landscape mode i cant see all things like Programs, Settings...grrr...

Push email
vikino said:
Hi everybody,
sometimes happends me that during call wifi gets automatically power on, then i have to manually shut it off...Where can be the problem?
Next thing is im still searching for solution how to get smaller font in Start Menu, where latest programs, Programs, Settings etc. are...Im not using TF3D, and when it is in landscape mode i cant see all things like Programs, Settings...grrr...
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Hi vikino
To answer your first question, I think it may be because you are using ActiveSnyc with Push Email enabled. If you go to Comm Manager, is the switch for "Microsoft Direct Push" on? If so, when you are on a GPRS connection and make a call your data connection will drop as only 3G or HSDPA can co-exist with an active call. Like the difference between old dial-up and modern broadband internet on your landline. If you're not using Direct Push I can't think what's causing it, but it maybe the HTC Push Internet. If it's the push email thing, you may want to consider switching off "Microsoft Direct Push" from Comm Manager and then going into ActiveSync and setting the sync schedule to "As Items Arrive" manually.
Can you please clarify your second question. It's not 100% clear what is not being displayed properly.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

.....you know what? You're right, im using Push mail with my own mail server at home...and in the region i live in we dont have 3G it runs on Edge... Push internet i dont know where to set it up, i found it only in TF3D, but im not using it...If it is working w/o TF3D would be nice to know where to set it up...
The second thing is that on Xperia i had was nice small font in menu so in landscape fits all fields in without scrolling, on TP2 is much more bigger font and i have to scroll down for everything, programs and settings i found in top as icon...

Bugs in TouchFlo & missing items

Going from a TyTnII to a Touch Pro 2 a few bug & short comings become obvious in the TouchFlo interface.
Home
The Date is only in US format, it ignores the region settings on the device
The alarm frequently doesn’t go off
The region settings if you change home city around midnight it will show day for original home city as yesterday but not as tomorrow
The calendar only shows today & tomorrow, the is no way to change this to the next 3 – 5 – 7 days
You can’t add tasks or anything else to the list
People
It’s fiddly to thumb through the contacts without accidently selecting one, & the side images are very fiddly
Go to All People find someone, select a number call them, but no answer. Go back to get another number & you have to start all over again, rather than still being on the same contact or even that same place in the list
Messages
It takes too long (5 seconds) for a message to change to read. Sending a contact by 3G it goes as MMS not SMS which it does when working just in Windows 6.1
If it’s a long message you can’t scroll up / down
The tab to enable the predictive 4 words is missing, only being enabled in the registry, possibly related but full querty keeps changing to a numbers only keypad or HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 0 to 1
Internet
Once active it doesn’t time out after any time. Hence opening you up to extra data charges & lower battery life
(If you want to stop it auto connecting, just put a user name but now password in the connections setting)
Calendar
No week view
Music
Takes a long time to load
No ABC list at side (as in contacts) with 5GB of music it’s a lot of scrolling
Library only shows those on Device unless you change it in WMP.
Camera
Why isn’t the 5 MP like the touch HD?
Why isn’t the GPS location enabled to start, rather than having to go into the registry
Stocks
I don’t know as I don’t do them
Settings
This looks better in 2.5
Buttons
Only one can be remapped – I use Phone button long hold to get into Windows 6.1
A number of games, while in the game could be remapped for left right turn fire
Software
Record isn’t there – so no more voice memos / call record mid call
Also there wasn’t a radio, but thanks to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521356 there is & it even has RDS, but more than 6 memories would be nice.
Even if it has a radio it still needs TMC for the traffic update in the CoPilot 7 GPS
Why when you upgrade 6.0 to 6.1 & I guess to 6.5 the whole device gets wiped, you have to load all the software again and there is no way of keeping scores or levels.
I had a TREO & the software took a normal back up, then apply that to a replacement & you can’t see the difference. Why can’t Windows backup do this?

Voice Recorder & Radio : it all depends on where you get your device. Mine comes with both.
Upgrade ROM wipes everything : that has always been the case with Pocket PC, not just with wm6

Wow, that's a long rant. But a lot of the stuff can be addressed or will be in the next revision of TF3D.
cjatcti said:
The Date is only in US format, it ignores the region settings on the device
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You can change the date format with Advanced Config tool.
cjatcti said:
The region settings if you change home city around midnight it will show day for original home city as yesterday but not as tomorrow
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This is a little weak. You're deliberately doing something that a normal person would not normally do just to try to trick the device. I'm not buying this rant.
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The calendar only shows today & tomorrow, the is no way to change this to the next 3 – 5 – 7 days
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Really should search for such a common issue.
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You can’t add tasks or anything else to the list
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You can use Manila Today.
cjatcti said:
It’s fiddly to thumb through the contacts without accidently selecting one, & the side images are very fiddly
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This will be fixed with Manila v2.5
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Go to All People find someone, select a number call them, but no answer. Go back to get another number & you have to start all over again, rather than still being on the same contact or even that same place in the list
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Use the phone app. IMHO, it's not as flashy but faster to search for a name in the phone app. Just type the person's name either with the dialpad or slideout keyboard.
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Once active it doesn’t time out after any time. Hence opening you up to extra data charges & lower battery life
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Opera does time out on me quite a bit. If it takes too long to read from a site, it gives the 500 error timeout. Anyway, you can choose to completely kill Opera from your running programs. Search for it if it really bothers you. I think someone from the Topaz forum figured it out.
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No week view
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Fixed in Manila v2.5
cjatcti said:
Takes a long time to load
No ABC list at side (as in contacts) with 5GB of music it’s a lot of scrolling
Library only shows those on Device unless you change it in WMP.
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I have quite a bit of music on my SD card and it doesn't take an annoyingly amount of time to load. Besides, when it's loading, your device is still very much functional.
There should be a search function to find a particular song. But I think it fine as long as all your music are tagged appropriately so that you can search via album or artist.
The library shows all music in your SD card and in your My Music folder in main memory. I don't see anything wrong with this setup. Where else would you want the library to look?
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Record isn’t there – so no more voice memos / call record mid call
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Record is still there. It just no longer has a dedicated program link. Just go to Notes. Go to menu-view recording toolbar.
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Why when you upgrade 6.0 to 6.1 & I guess to 6.5 the whole device gets wiped, you have to load all the software again and there is no way of keeping scores or levels.
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This a little annoying. But I take this as an opportunity to clean out my device. I put organize all files into their respective folders, decide whether or not a particular app is useful enough to be reinstalled, etc.

Thank you for the reply & the links, I wasn’t trying to rant, just list the easily fixable short comings in one place & possibly HTC might get them fixed in a future release. I know it can be fun tinkering to improve, but I believe it should work out of the box.
Kitchens should be for extras

Time Zone Bug in the touch flow interface.
To avoid Outlook moving the times of my flights as the time zones change, I tell the phone not to auto update time zone & just change the time in my home town.
So when I arrived in Poland, I set my home town Cheltenham time on an hour. Later I discovered that the Phone had added GMT +1 Berlin & ignored the Warszawa time zone I had set.
When I came back to the US, turned on my phone looked later & it was asking me to select a city.
1) The problem with Outlook changing appointment times to suit time zones is just plane wrong.
2) Yet again Touch flow ignores a windows interface setting
3) It should at least ask you if it wants to change
4) It should look to see if you have a city in country you are in already selected instead of just adding more World Clock entries

you are saying that the week view is fixed in 2.5? is this out now or coming soon?
ty

frozenbutt said:
you are saying that the week view is fixed in 2.5? is this out now or coming soon?
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Of course, not officially released by HTC yet. But then, Windows Mobile 6.5 isn't officially released either and that didn't stop people from getting it on our devices...

Settings don't stick

I keep having to reset my phone preferences (such as my ring- I only want it to ring once) but it keeps resetting the settings to the default for the phone.
Is anyone else having this happen on their Sprint TP2?

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are you changing your ring settings through the touch flo 3d shell (settings>sound) or going through the traditional windows mobile settings (settings>sounds & notifications)?
My ring settings stick for both methods (or my phone says). I don't get calls enough for me to notice if settings stick.
maybe your ringtone is very long, so it sounds like it's ringing more then once?
I do experience a setting that I want to stick but doesn't. when you open phone, you choose menu > view. Default is "calls and contacts" but I only want "all calls". I can choose it and it'll filter, but when I close phone and reopen, it'll reset to "calls and contacts". =/

Thanks, Tone.
The ring is not long- it's an old fashioned phone ringer. The actual setting changes fron "Ring once" to "Ring."
I am setting it under the options on the dialer screen. I haave also gone through "Settings"; makes no difference.

So I recently hard reset my phone due to some other issues, but I tested if your problem again, and the settings are still fine on my end.
Out of curiosity, do you know what Manila version you have (along with what phone version)?
Mine is Sprint, Manila version 2.1.38416.1.
You can find the manila version with Reg Edit and go to "
HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila"
String Value "Version" tells you the Manila version.
If you don't have reg edit, or don't know how to do it, that's ok, just phone version should be enough. I've been discovering from customizing my phone and researching on XDA, that Manila may have different bugs depending on what Manila version you have (and most likely a different Manila version is attached with different carriers).

Same Manila version.
Has been hard reset twice, but the problem persists...

oh boo, that sucks. if you have a phone replacement/repair plan with sprint, I say go to them and tell them the issue. I always ***** at sprint with whatever problem that can't be solved. it's a defect in the software/hardware and if you have the replacement/repair plan, they won't charge anything for repairs. and if they can't repair it themselves, they'll send out a request for a 'new' phone replacement. sometimes its brand new, sometimes its refurbished. depends what they have in stock.

I can not get my phone to filter contacts by just device contacts it always defaults back to all contacts making me have dupes. Anyone else have this or know how to make the setting stick?

bonestock said:
I can not get my phone to filter contacts by just device contacts it always defaults back to all contacts making me have dupes. Anyone else have this or know how to make the setting stick?
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this is what I do (if you have contacts on your sim).
enter phone app (call button).
press "contacts" (left soft key) to open contacts (manila shell).
press "menu" (right soft key).
choose "view".
listed is "all", "contacts" and "sim". choose "contacts" to list only device stored contacts.
settings stick for me. but I don't have contacts on my sim card to verify. however, the setting itself doesn't change back.
if you go to contacts (windows app version), I believe you can't do this, because there is no option for it.
this is one reason why I think manila is kind of retarded. it just covers up windows mobile, but there are still multiple front ends / GUI for the same things.

no real help, but i set my phone to ring and vibrate, and every now and then it reverts to just ring!!!

I was having the same problem until I noticed
the Single Volume control. It is above the Phone
controls on the settings panel. I turned it off
and now the phone ring settings stay the way I
set them.

it's a known issue for Sprint TP2's. it will be fixed with ROM update to WM6.5. in the meantime, check out this thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=83378&highlight=jfrancisny&page=4. Post #36 fixed it for me.

New and need help to get phone working up to it's potential

So on 01/01, I upgraded from my 2 year old 8525 (no mods done to it) to a ATT Tilt 2; and so far here is my issues/things I need help with/report:
Within the first 20 days of the 30 day return period, the SMS notification audible stopped working on sent messages. The notification on the screen still showed on the bottom just no sound. No setting change or soft reset fixed. No other issues before that point.
Got new phone.
Within 5 days on phone number two, the phone would default to SMS tree view (view is found by going to messages in touchflo and selecting 'All Messages' from the bottom left.) Would move TouchFlo to Home screen (my background that shows clock, date, etc.), hit the power key to power save, hit power key to power up, and then on SMS tree view, not my home screen. Didn't matter how long after I manually put phone in power save, it would still not default to homepage screen. Only consistently did this when I manually used the power button to put in power save. When I locked the phone and put in power save no issues, or it was random. When the phone went into power save by itself after my 2 minutes delay, the issue was random. This phone also froze on me twice upon in the SMS function.
Got new phone yesterday.
So far no issues.
So I'm on phone number 3, with the first 2 having software issues.
No mods to any of the phones (yet), and if this phone has issues, I have option to return and pay no restocking fee and get a different phone (probably an iPhone 16GB at this point, as much as I don't want one), or start downloading new manillas, cabs, and shells for this one.
Is there any updates out there I am missing, or anything else I am missing.
I've got my Cox Email (a POP3 push), my Hotmail, and my Yahoo Email (as an IMAP, it defaulted the setup that way) setup, and no other real changes. Using my old microSD card (1GB) that's got songs, audio clips, and pics/vids on it.
I saw the thread on att wireless forums for the update on an SMS freezing issue, not sure if relates to any of my issues, or if I should go ahead and upload to number 3 phone I currently have anyways. And should I upload other fix as well, eventhough I never saw issues with caller id on first 2 phones (coming in as unknown even though contact is calling you). Haven't had third phone long enough to discern any issues yet.
More info: I always have touchflo active
What do I need to do to get things on this phone to make sure it doesn't mess up? Other things one would suggest to customize the phone?
I WANT THE MOST GLITCH FREE POSSIBLE PHONE
Thanks
and sorry for the newb questions

Also to note:
I am technology illiterate. Simple explanations of every step is needed for me.
Also to note, I have a laptop that is running Vista 64bit and I have not uploaded the ActiveSync software to my laptop yet
my brother mentioned something to me about a PIM? for backup?

I can't speak to all the other issues you've seen, but AT&T packs a lot of bloat-ware on the stock ROM they put on the Tilt2, and it's usually stuff that users have no need for.
There's a utility at this thread that will sweep all that junk off in one swipe, you'll find it frees up a good amount of the available memory in the phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper

Okay. Thanks for the reply.
Something I want to do is get rid of all the crap I don't want, including but not limited to:
- all demo stuff
- the music files that came on the phone (artists: Chris Hawkes, Pacha Massive, Sidestepper)
- AT&T Navigator
- WorldCard Mobile
anything that is not related to phone, text, email, internet, my photos and music from my card, Facebook, stocks, weather = rest of it gone
I was reading in the sticky threads on how to do what and was still confusing and it scared me from doing anything to this phone, but I know I need to do things to clean it up and make it run better
Can anyone give me an idiot, idiot, to the supreme idiot guide on how to do what I need to do?
1. Upload ActiveSync to my laptop (not done yet) (my laptop runs Vista 64bit)
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All I want to do is make the phone run better and fix glitches, and not have any glitches in doing this.
Thanks

After I do steps 1 - whatever,
should I install hotfix for unknown caller id and freezing SMS issue
htp://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=125218
or would another thing from someone else resolve this?

Maybe what I learned will help?
Have a look at this thread, and see if it helps you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625730
Good luck!

yeah it was a help thanks for the reply, but it wasn't a help.
as you see above, i haven't even put the activesync software on my laptop. so after i do that, what do i need to do first to get that crud+scraper and other things on my phone?
idiots guide please

what i need to do in what order is very confusing to me. all of this is confusing to me
i just want my phone to be less bloated and work properly with no issues. i think i have seen the caller id issue and not sure if i'm still getting the sms tree issue i saw on phone #2 i just replaced

The order is listed.
Hi again,
Yes, go ahead and get activesync on your computer 1st thing
then, Look at post #9. Do it in that order.
The .net 3.5 mentioned can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en
Just download that, and run it while your phone is connected to activesync. It will put .net 3.5 on your phone. Next, copy the 3 files for crud scraper onto the phone somewhere you can find it, like my documents (on your PC, you'll need to right-click, copy, then right click, paste). Once the files are on the phone, just find the folder you put them in and click on the 'poop' icon. You can then clean off all the crap you want by checking the boxes.
So,
#1 Get activesync
#2 get .net 3.5
#3 run crudscraper
#4 I highly recommend SPB mobile shell. (google it) It just makes much easier to navigate the phone. There is a free 15 day trial.
#5 any of the other apps I mentioned are good.
That should get you started.

thanks for the reply subterran

subterran:
any thoughts to my homepage/message tree issue that occured with #2, and mow occuring with #3 phone I currently have? Thanks
the phone would default to SMS tree view (view is found by going to messages in touchflo and selecting 'All Messages' from the bottom left.) Would move TouchFlo to Home screen (my background that shows clock, date, etc.), hit the power key to power save, hit power key to power up, and then on SMS tree view, not my home screen. Didn't matter how long after I manually put phone in power save, it would still not default to homepage screen. Only consistently did this when I manually used the power button to put in power save. When I locked the phone and put in power save no issues, or it was random. When the phone went into power save by itself after my 2 minute delay, the issue was random.

Missing D-Pad for switching dial options for contacts in call history

I had the 1st model tilt from ATT, with the smart dialler option set. With the Dpad, I could then navigate left or right for a contact in the call history, to switch between home or work or mobile numbers.
I'm finding the lack of this easy switching one of my biggest pain points with the tilt2. I'd love to be able to hit the phone button, which generally has hubby somewhere near the top, and be able to easily toggle between his home/work/mobile numbers depending on where I know he's going to be.
I turned off the touchflo UI, and use SPB mobile shell, and unless I happen to want to call hubby back at the same number he last dialled me from, I have to open contacts, and then pick the different number for dialling.
is there an option I'm missing somewhere, or am I SOL?
Thanks
red

Press the Phone button.
Tap the little contact card icon next to your hubby's name on the right.
You can then select which of his numbers you want to dial there.

Tried that, nothing happens. same nothing when I touch the Contacts in the bottom left soft button.
What can I do to get those linked into the contacts?

redjessie said:
Tried that, nothing happens. same nothing when I touch the Contacts in the bottom left soft button.
What can I do to get those linked into the contacts?
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That is due to disabling Touch Flo UI The dialers are very much tied into it. If you re enable it I am sure it would work. Could try a diff dialer

zelendel said:
That is due to disabling Touch Flo UI The dialers are very much tied into it. If you re enable it I am sure it would work. Could try a diff dialer
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I have the T-Mobile version. I disabled Touch Flo, and my dialer still has the contact card to the right. Maybe he has a different ROM?

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I have the T-Mobile version. I disabled Touch Flo, and my dialer still has the contact card to the right. Maybe he has a different ROM?
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Yes the card will still be there but when you click on it it does nothing right? That is due to it being pointed to the Manila contact page and not WM. SO when Touch Flo is disabled it cant load the page.

Yes the card will still be there but when you click on it does it load the contact info?

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Yes the card will still be there but when you click on it does it load the contact info?
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Yes, the card is there, but nothing happens when I click it.
Any recommendations on replacing the dialler?

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Yes the card will still be there but when you click on it it does nothing right? That is due to it being pointed to the Manila contact page and not WM. SO when Touch Flo is disabled it cant load the page.
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No, when I click the card it goes to the page with the various phone numbers.
Did you disable Touch Flo in the Today Settings screen?

NEVER used TouchFlo on my phone except for 5 minutes when I first got the phone, and touching the little card icon from the standard dialer works fine here.. Pops up last call, call mobile/work/home, send text message, send e-mail, etc...
I personally use iDialer, which offers all of this too.