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I flash the jasjar's rom on the MDA Pro. but unfortunately, I have lost the ability of connecting to the internet through 3G/UMTS (the settings are gone).
Can someone post the settings of T-Mobile MDA PRO UK to connect to 3G network? (Normally automatically being chosen when there's no wifi around).
Anyone has the settings??
Called 150 and get their customer service.
The scary thing is.. the 40MB that I get on Web n Walk is only with the use of GPRS. Not 3G.
I repeat, GPRS not UMTS.
Back to the main question, who has the 3G settings?
I was advised to use the settings provided for WAP because "3G is expensive" (I quote from the guy who talked to me).
I have an MDA C3. When web & walk is transferring internet Data and a call comes in, the phone does not ring. It goes directly to the voicemail.
T-Mobile customer service tell me that this is correct as you can either transfer internet data or make a call.
Is that right? I thought that was with WAP which is analagous to dial-up. Surely GPRS is analagous to Broadband.
Anyone else want to try this:
Go to Web & walk home page. Attempt loading up the guardian page (This will take a while). Whilst this is loading, call your phone number and see if it rings or goes direct to VM.
I spend lots of time browsing so I must be losing lots of calls!
Feedback greatly appreciated.
From what I have heard only UMTS devices can support simultaneous voice/data.
Yes - but not GRPS that uses GSM band instead of UMTS.
However, some devices have troubles keeping the data link active when a call comes in.
I am having the same issue (also on T-Mobile UK).
Then IE is running or AS is downloading my mail (I use direct push) all my calls go straight to voicemail.
This is worrying as I just moved over to T-Mobile for the web n walk package to allow me to have instant e-mails. This is a pain if it means I miss calls whilst my mail is downloading.
You'd think that the chances of the 2 coinciding are slim (I don't get a lot of mail, maybe 10 per day) but the wife has already complained 3 times since Friday that she went straight to voicemail, and each time it was exactly as i got a new mail.
Is this a limit of GPRS, the Orbit or just T-Mobile?
Thanks
Dae
I was surprised too... Thats why I posted the query. I thought my phone and/or SIm were faulty. But T-Mobile tell me thats how its supposed to work.
With W&W and Email, Its really hard for someone to get through with a voice call. It was worrying for me as I tend to browse the net whenever I am waiting around. This means that when I am on the bus surfing, no one can get through to me!!
Surely if there is a limitation, then the phone should give precendence to the Voice call. After all, you can pick up your emails or surfing where you left off.
I would really be interested to see if this is a T-Mobile only problem.
No itschase is spot on.
It's not a t-Mobile problem, it's the same for any GSM based network.
Only 3g (UMTS) phones can do data and voice at the same time. No matter what network you are on.
I have just run an experiment in the office as follows:-
Me (artemis with v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when data active
person 1 (MDA compact III - v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when active
person 2 (hermes) - no Voicemail when active.
We are all on t-mobile UK, and therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
daesimps said:
therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
Gajet said:
What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
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I incorrectly assumed that whilst browsing, if a voice call comes in, the phone would give priority to the call.
If I had known what I know now at the time I signed my 18M contract I would have bought a 3g Phone! Its just annoying that i'm stuck with it for another 12M. T-Mobile push the fact that they have set the internet free... but what they fail to get across to everyday users is that its "AT THE EXPENSE OF THE VOICE CALLS"
Because T-Mobile forced you to buy one of their 2.5g phones rather than one of their 3g phones?
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
cduijker said:
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
Gajet said:
Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
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As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
daesimps said:
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
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Hi,
It's not enough to have a class A (2G) device, but also DTM (Dual Transfer Mode/Simple Class A) support has to be active in the specific network, otherwise only 3G device on 3G network will provide Class A (simultaneous voice & data).
In fact, there are quite many models from Nokia during last year that support DTM, but as already mentioned, it's not enough.
FYI,
Zohar
cduijker said:
As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
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Is that an EDGE network ?
I got the Artemis with PV Black&Blue v3 ROM.
I can receive calls while pages are loading in IE.
I think this is a provider problem.
The phone provider has to intercept your GPRS connection and establish the GSM connection. Maybe T-Mobile just rejects calls while a GPRS connection/transfer is active.
A1 intercepts the page download and my call comes in.
When I pick up, the GPRS connection is closed completely. (not just pending)
So receiving calls while surfing is no problem for me with Austrian A1 provider.
Any other experiences?
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Is that an EDGE network ?
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no, just gprs; no edge.
cduijker said:
no, just gprs; no edge.
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...then it's no way you'll get simultaneous voice and data (class a).
Just setting my phone up after moving from a Nokia N95 8GB
I'm on 02 Pay as You Go Text & Web
£10.00 per month
300 Texts & Unlimited Web
Using the setting as supplied (02 bought phone) I get a 'H' in the status bar, but no 3G and no data throughput at all.
It does appear to be trying I get the up/down arrows but nothing else...
I can't view any web pages or access anything...
The nokia worked fine at 3G.
Any Ideas ?
Thanks
go to settings, choose wireless and networks.
after that choose mobile networks (not mobile network).
choose Access Point Names then choose O2 MOBILE WEB.
change APN into payandgo.o2.co.uk
DONE
Thanks for the reply.. but that hasn't worked.. I keep getting connection failed.
My Settings are:
Name: 02 Mobile Web
APN: payandgo.o2.co.uk
Proxy: Not Set
Port: Not Set
Username: mobileweb
Password: password
MCC: 234
MNC: 10
Nothing else is set. !!
The username needs to be "payandgo" for pay and go
On my Nokia it was mobileweb !!
I'll try that and post back !
The generic setting on the phone connect me with GRPS, but not 3G.
Just had a web chat with 02 - God help Me !
My sim works fine in my N95 8GB I get a solid 3G signal anywhere in my house.
In the Desire I only get 'H'.. no '3G'.
O2 have said their network my not support PAYG 3G on the Desire
Any suggestions what I can try ! ?
lol having your handset display a H rather than 3G is better trust me
I'm with O2, on 3G you only get 384KBit/s on H(HSUPA) you will receive 3-4MBit/s
The icons on O2 will change from H->3G->E->G depending on your signal.
Thank.. But U get no data throughput at all.
Making it useless.
How do I get internet access on this ? Without using Wireless !
Set up a new APN with:
Name: [whatever you like...]
APN: payandgo.o2.co.uk
and don't fill in the rest.
Also make sure Settings>Wireless & networks>Mobile networks>Network mode is set to GSM/WCDMA auto or WCDMA only. If that still doesn't work I'd be leaning towards a local network issue, etc.
albert_htc said:
Using the setting as supplied (02 bought phone) I get a 'H' in the status bar, but no 3G and no data throughput at all.
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You refer to 2 "problems" but in reality you only have 1 and that is that you are not getting any data through!
H is faster than 3G as someone else mentioned. It is 3.5G so if you get that you should be happy!
Your data issue is an APN issue. I have had a similar problem with MMS. It was only after 7 calls to O2 and speaking with a number of phone monkeys that I managed to get it working.
I would suggest you persist!!
I've reset the phone.
and I'm back to square one !
G connects and works slowly. H connects but no data.
Any ideas ? before I give up and send it back !
dialling *#*#INFO#*#* Shows the phone has conencted, but it fails a ping test.
(on a strange not this also shows a mobile number that isn't mine !)
Thanks
I have/had some O2 PAYT sim cards which say '2G' on the packaging. These, as I recall, would not connect to the 3G network at all, or at least they would, then seconds later they'd drop back off the 2G, regardless of the phone, so once 3G coverage became widespread I'd have to lock the phone to 2G to get it to work properly.
That said, I've been on contract for a long time now, and the only PAYG sims I ever use are Orange ones (Orange Wednesdays ) so I've no idea if any of their SIMs will still do that, or if indeed that is your problem, but I thought I'd chuck it in as food for thought. Have you tried an O2 PAYG sim that originally came with a 3G phone?
update...
called in at my local O2 shop and they gave me a new sim card advising it would take 24/48 hours for my account to be moved to the new card.
1 hour later my new sim is working. Sat on the prom accessing web via 3G
Came home, connects to 3G no throughput
Just been out for a drive, 3G works 5 - 10 minutes away from my house, but not at home or in between !
I Will try a few other areas, may be my 'cell' is having issues.
When I had a working connection I checked the 'testing' menu and noted the LAC & CID, they are different from the one at home.
(not sure if this means anything as I don't know the area a cell covers)
Is there anyway to find out what cells are in my area ?
When it fails the testing menu shows:
Ping ipAddr: Fail: IP addr not reachable
Ping Hostname(www.google.com):Fail: Host unreachable
HTTP Client test: Fail: IOException
Anyone know what the IOException is about ?
Thanks
hmm, maybe your sim is not compatible with hsdpa, I think some sims can only go as fast as 3g
should have said, connected at H at on the prom !
Not to sure what's going on, but this is a new sim.
The cell tower in your area is probably having problems. Give it 24 hours and if the problem persists, call O2 again.
Yea even I have that issue on T-Mobile and O2, the cell tower can have problems and 3G will have no data throughput what-so-ever but 2G will.
O2 servers Down
I am was having a similar problem my o2 internet connection it was going off for hours then coming back on, it was fine before i had no problem.
So I gave o2 a call and they said that they were having problems with there server and it was temporarily down and should be fixed soon, I am on o2 sim only plan hope this helps.
Also do a o2 coverage check :
http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/
Thanks
I'll see how things go over the next couple of days !
can i activate the "g" on my blue angel? its currently running on wm 6.1+manila by d-two..
G or gprs has nothing to do with wi-fi, your thread title is misleading.
you need to open the connection settings and set up your internet connection, according to the data, you receive from your carrier. usually, if you don't know, where to find those things, visit your carrier's website and search it for "gprs settings" or 3g settings or umts settings and you will find the information you need to set it up.
alternatively, have a look around the forum for the ADC.cab that is the program for Automatic Data Connection. it reads, what kind of sim card you have inserted and offers you corresponding carriers to choose from and configures the internet connection automatically, assuming that your carrier is listed.
but be aware of the fact, that because this has nothing to do with wi-fi, the internet is not free. you have to pay network fees to your provider, because you use a sim activated mobile internet connection, that is also pretty slow, because the blueangel only has GPRS and not edge, 3g or hsdpa.
Chef_Tony said:
G or gprs has nothing to do with wi-fi, your thread title is misleading.
you need to open the connection settings and set up your internet connection, according to the data, you receive from your carrier. usually, if you don't know, where to find those things, visit your carrier's website and search it for "gprs settings" or 3g settings or umts settings and you will find the information you need to set it up.
alternatively, have a look around the forum for the ADC.cab that is the program for Automatic Data Connection. it reads, what kind of sim card you have inserted and offers you corresponding carriers to choose from and configures the internet connection automatically, assuming that your carrier is listed.
but be aware of the fact, that because this has nothing to do with wi-fi, the internet is not free. you have to pay network fees to your provider, because you use a sim activated mobile internet connection, that is also pretty slow, because the blueangel only has GPRS and not edge, 3g or hsdpa.
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hi chef tony thank you for your reply..and sorry for the confusion..im asking is about how to activate "g" on wifi because by default it only has 802.11b..is there any possibility?thanks again!
oh, i see. you were talking about wlan 802.11G. my answer was not very helpful then
unfortunately, it is impossible to unlock wlan G. just like sdhc cards, no one ever found a leak to create a driver. and even if there was a driver for that, you would only gain the ability to connect to wlan G networks, but there would be no speed improvement, the wi-fi on the BA is limited to 11Mbit
oh i see. thank you for your quick reply chef tony!
Some months ago my phone started to behave strangely.
I have 2 sim card both for Vodafone. I use the data connection from the 1. sim.
Once i start a call from the second SIM card the phone drop the data-connection from the first sim(as expected) but after the call end the phone seemingly connect back to the 3g network but I cannot gat a byte from the internet.
I tried to switch between the cards and the result was that if I use the 2g in the second slot and start a call from the first sim the phone easily connect back to the internet after start a call.
also this is the case if the data connection in the 1. sim is 2g and not 3g.
So the main problem as i can see is that if i start a call from the second sim when i use 3g data-connection on the first sim after the call ends the phone cannot connect back properly.
If I turn on and off again the data-connection is not help.
But if i switch between 2g and 3g on the first sim the internet can be used again.
Please advice.
Shall I sand it back to the Chinese retailer? from Hungary