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So which one do u choose ?
CorePlayer
Nitrogen player
Windows media player
TF3D music player
or others?
Plz post your reasons too
so? 90 views and no answers
i'm using pocket player . it works great
and i'm using it with jabra stereo blutooth headset.
TF3D music player
I've been using the TF3D music player on my tp2 for about a month now and it seems to be doing all that i need from it.
Simple to use and good quality output as well. Can't say much about other music players as I haven't used any recently.
in order to get as much music on my phone as possible i am using aac compressed audio (with SBR). This format provides 128kbit/s-mp3-quality at 48kbit/s (at least to my ears).
The only players that i know supporting this format are WMP and TCPMP. As TCPMP does software decoding the device gets slow during playback. WMP seems to have something like hardware acceleration for aac. therefore i am using WMP (with another skin as the default one is not very finger friendly).
thanks yeah i like the TF3D default myself too Nitrogen is good but i think the volume is a little low compared to TF3D player,i use coreplayer for movies and TF3D for musics,just wanted to know other opinions
while the htc audio manager is nice, NITROGEN is now my player of choice despite minor bugs.
WMP works well for me. Don't like the skin but I have downloaded an HTC-like theme so it is all good.
pocket player too
wide variety of audio format support (4.x supports aac), AVRCP support, plugin to add pitch adjustment
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Mesquire said:
while the htc audio manager is nice, NITROGEN is now my player of choice despite minor bugs.
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How did you get the player to play in power saving mode. with the screen off. Whenever I do this it stops the music, and some times, even unloads my memory card.
This has been my biggest bain and major issue with my tmobile tp2. I have tried Mortplayer and Nitrogen, the best IMHO and have had the same issue. I have tried different searches to enable the device to let the music play while the screen is off and none have worked. I am going to try S2P. My only gripe witht that program is that it does not play all file formats.
Oh well...
Coreplayer.
Has EQ, bass boost and pre-amp options and also is the best video player.
juliangun4ev said:
i'm using pocket player . it works great
and i'm using it with jabra stereo blutooth headset.
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yeah,Pocket Music Player is the thing,it can auto power off and power on,holy ****,which else can be as nice as this one?
+1 for Pocket Player.
My reasons: AVRCP support (a must have feature for me), wide format support (many free players don't support wma, which is a deal breaker for me), equalizer, gapless playback(!), quite finger friendly (some buttons are rather small on the default skin, but it has kinetic scrolling etc.)...
Video support is a bit lacking, but then again I only use it for audio.
I use Pocket Player as well, mostly because it works well for both music and audio books. I am frustrated with whatever method it uses for shuffle, though. I've had 6 different songs play 2-4 times in 4 hours. I have nearly 1000 songs and 66 hours of music! Seems like I should not be getting that kind of repetition.
Pocket Player problems with playing large MP3 files...
One thing guys - and anyone who uses Pocket Player on the TP2 may have seen this... I listen to a lot of voice audio. I prefer to combine the files for audio and can sometimes have long audio files of 300 megs all the way to 1.2 gigs (I use a 16 gig storage card).
The problem i have seen is that sometimes the control that shows where you are in the audio file goes haywire and slides from the correct position all the way to the right - making the bookmarking feature fail and impossible to navigate. Additionally it appears Pocket Player somehow miscalculates the size and length of the audio - but it originally has the size and length correct - this only happens after a certain point (for me it seems after about 240 minutes or so - about 4 hours in).
WHat is so strange is this does NOT happen for all audio files on this device. Some of the large files seem to play fine without problem. Additionally when I compare this to another TP2 that has an installation of the competitor program Pocket Music, this does NOT happen. Also this never happenedon our original HTC Mogul from Sprint.
The problem is we need the AVRCP controls and we all know that Conduits is the only company that has addressed this. It's also pathetic that HTC themselves has continued down this path and refuses to even comment on this issue.
2 questions to this wonderful community of genius people who take it upon themselves to fix what should have been included in the first place:
1. Has anyone seen a hack / mod that will fix the AVRCP controls so that programs like Pocket Music and other players can be used via Bluetooth remote controls?
2. Has anyone seen this specific issue with Pocket Player (which has that beautiful speed plugin that does not alter pitch - love that) and if so - is there a fix or workaround for large files 'breaking' in the middle of playing so that you can no longer save your position or know the correct position of the player in the middle of the MP3 being played?
Thanks in advance to all of you who have any suggestions on either issue.
I'm using Kinoma Play, though mainly for its integration with Orb and video abilities.
For music it supports album art, but only has bass and treble adjustments, not an equalizer.
There is a Kinoma Free you can try.
I am searching for the perfect player and have been testing several of them to see how they work. In addition to some of the normal music player requirements I have 2 pet peeves in particular:
1) The player must support the "Album Artist" tag so that compilations are listed properly in the library.
2) Proper alphabetization - "The Beatles" should be listed under the B's not incorrectly under the T's.
I am testing Pocket Player right now. So far it is the only music player that supports and uses the "Album Artist" tag and it does so by default. It does not support proper alpha. AVRCP works fine out of the box.
The HTC player has the advantage in that it is the only player that can be integrated on the TF3D tabs but does not utilize the "Album Artist" tag nor uses proper alpha. It also has a serious bug that prevents it listing and playing a albums tracks in the correct order. AVRCP of course works well.
WMP supports proper alpha but not the "Album Artist" tag. Strange since MS pioneered the use of the "Album Artist" tag in the desktop version of WMP. AVRCP works fine.
CorePlayer is an evil company. I will never buy or use any SW they make.
Kinoma is next up on my list.
I wish I could find a music player that addresses both of my pet peeves and could be integrated into the TF3D tab replacing the HTC one. That would be the perfect player for me.
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2) Proper alphabetization - "The Beatles" should be listed under the B's not incorrectly under the T's.
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I understand what you're saying but I would argue that any player that puts that artist name under B is the one doing it incorrectly. If you want The Beatles under the B's then you should rename those tracks to the album artist "Beatles."
For the people that got the TF3D music to work, please share your magic on having it identify your library from a storage card.
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How did you get the player to play in power saving mode. with the screen off. Whenever I do this it stops the music, and some times, even unloads my memory card.
This has been my biggest bain and major issue with my tmobile tp2. I have tried Mortplayer and Nitrogen, the best IMHO and have had the same issue. I have tried different searches to enable the device to let the music play while the screen is off and none have worked. I am going to try S2P. My only gripe witht that program is that it does not play all file formats.
Oh well...
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I know this question is like 2 months old but I use Nitrogen and its good enough for me...very finger friendly! And on the main screen there's a button that looks like a Power Button under the volume keys...thats how you put it into "sleep mode" and music will continue playing.
I've got a UK Touch Pro 2 from Orange with the official latest Windows 6.1 (!) ROM on it, and transferred about 10 songs from itunes onto it earlier. So far, so good.
I then decided actually I don't wat those songs, so I managed to delete them from the storage card, but they're all still showing up on the 'Now Playing' list along with little exclamation marks as if to say it (obviously) can't find them any more.
Does anyone know how I can clear this list??
Many thanks!
Hi --
I've been spending a lot (read "too much") time with the TF3D audio app recently, loading lots of music, so I have experience with your issue.
Basically, the Now Playing list will not reset until you "make" a new one, i.e. until you choose to play something else and thus have something else "Now Playing." Strange, but that's how it works...
The easiest way is to go into the Library, and choose one of the following that DOES NOT CONTAIN ANY OF THE DELETED SONGS: 1) an album; 2) a playlist; or 3) an artist. Then select any song from that category. The music player should now bring you back to the Music tab home screen, and you'll notice that only the songs from that category will be in Now Playing. When you go back into the Library the deleted song listings should now be gone completely.
Thanks jasmithers, a very useful tip - I shall give it a try!
The Touchflo music appears to be quite worthless. I cannot get the app to identify any artists, albums, genres, etc. I have approx 1400 songs in the sd card and it finds nothing.
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The Touchflo music appears to be quite worthless. I cannot get the app to identify any artists, albums, genres, etc. I have approx 1400 songs in the sd card and it finds nothing.
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If you mean that the tracks don't show up at all, perhaps they are in a DRM format, e.g. iTunes' .aac, that the music player can't read?
If you mean that the tracks show up but the artist/album/genre ID doesn't show, perhaps the data hasn't been entered into the tracks? On your computer, right-click on one of your music files, choose "Properties," and see if it brings up any info. If not, you can manually enter it (although it's a time-intensive process).
The TF3D music player keeps losing the indexed list of songs by artists, albums, genres. I will go to Winmo media player and scan for songs. The TF3D music player uses the scanned list from media player but it seems to lose the list after some action that I have not identified. Should not be this difficult.
I have a original Rom on my AT&T Tilt2, with 8GB microSD Card. I noticed that when I bring up the media player from TouchFlo and try playing an Album that the Songs are all out of order compared to the Original CD.
I have all my Songs Organized in Separate Folders for each CD and listed under the Correct Artist on my SD card...plus they appear in the correct order when opening the Windows Media Player...but the TouchFlo player seams to mix them all up.
Anyone else experience this, know what's going on, or have a fix for this?
Thank you
Yup, I've noticed this too. Doesn't do it on every album, seems kind of random. Overall, the HTC music player is pretty lame, IMO. I suggest you try S2P.
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Yup, I've noticed this too. Doesn't do it on every album, seems kind of random. Overall, the HTC music player is pretty lame, IMO. I suggest you try S2P.
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Yeah...it was random...annoying though...I'll have to look into the other player.
The HTC player is also pretty slow if you have a lot of music on your phone. Another annoyance, the HTC player will lump in all your podcasts and other audio with your albums.
No way to fix the song order though?
Not that I know of. I tried a million different things, both on the phone and with the media player library on my PC, and I never hit upon what causes it.
I finally gave up in frustration. Now that I have about 10-12GB of music on my phone, the HTC player is so slow that it's not much fun to use anyway.
Hello, guys.
Today I decided to delete all my music from my mobile and move it back again from my computer because I fixed a lot of the mp3 tags etc. What can I say? I'm a perfectionist. The problem is that the Music player -- even though it appears to be reindexing -- updates nothing other than the album pictures that I had embedded in the mp3s. The genres etc are still wrong which led me to believe that it does not really reindex.
I tried all the usual stuff and also tried this weird idea: unmounted the memory card, used Advanced Task Killer to complete shut the music player, went to Settings->Applications and cleared the music player's data (size was only 8kb though), remounted the SD card, but the Music Player still indexed the files with the old tags.
Does anyone have a fix for this?
Thanks in advance,
Louis.
That's an odd problem. Have you tried testing it on an alternative music player application?
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That's an odd problem. Have you tried testing it on an alternative music player application?
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Actually, after a quick search I've found that many people have the same problem. From what I had read, changing a Media Player wouldn't fix it for them either (even Media Players with the built-in option to actually reindex the music). I tried something that at the very least sounded like a stupid idea and it was fixed though. Haha! Moving the files to a different directory than the one that the previous files were in causes the Media Player to completely reindex the files (mp3 tags, album covers etc).
I guess the logic behind it is: The music index file keeps a path to the mp3 together with something like comma separated values for the mp3 tags. Since the updated files I had moved from the PC to the memory card had the exact same filename and only altered mp3 tags, the phone completely ignored the mp3 tags assuming that it was the same file. By moving the music to a different directory you cause the index file to be updated (or even recreated) because the path to the new mp3s is not listed in the index file.
Someone said to place all new music in internal and then it will be recognized.
Another way is to clear app's data.
Really? No refresh option? Cmon Samsung.
Well I had started the phone over at the time of my prev post..right now thats 3+ hrs ago and that shutdown / startup was after a total data clear in the apps settings Samsung Music app storage, and a unmount of the ext sd.
I just think it is interesting to see the difference in the Samsung indexing compared to the vlc indexing for my music. VLC takes upwards of a half hour. Samsung however has taken over three hours and is not nearly done yet. Of 7 or 8 newly added music folders, still only 3 have showed up (folders tab allows for sort by recently added).
It looks like a 6 hour indexing job or at the very least 4. Probably 6 as I just happened to look down and saw the tail end of some kind of toast notification of passing the first 10000 song point of loading.
Pretty tarded app. REALLY needs a refresh button if it is this slow to index.
But it does look good scrolling thru all the albun covers.
Just had a thought...hope it isn't screwing with my custom created artworks. That would be totally uncalled for.
No checking on a jpg file it remains at its original shape and size.
I have been watching this indexing of the music by the Samsung Music app, very closely.
It returned both positive quantities and negatives so far.
I consider this to be one of the best sets of native apps of any phone so far, but the music app being the only AOD enablable app for lockscreen music has me baffled and disappointed. Though not entirely.
On one hand it is really blows it in that it has taken over 6 hours so far and only 3 of 8 of my newly added folders have been loaded.
Additionally it misses the ball on SEVERAL of the artwork configurations which VLC (not supported in AOD) picks up easily.
First the pro column, it looks good in album view and scrolls real smooth, without using 7 GB for APP Data (which is what vlc takes to run my music collection) (where is it storing the data? is my question here); refer to screenshots 1, 3 &4 &8.
However, there is a small number of album arts missing, and more than expected albums in the 'Unknown Album' position of the 'U's in the alphabet. Which indicates to me that there could be some id tag misrecognition or unrecognition someplaces;
refer to screenshot 15 &16.
Finally the Samsung native music app sees the artwork as different in albums where different songs have different artworks, but only in instances where those arts and songs are nested in separate folders. Such as my version of the Pulp Fiction soundtrack.
In cases where the artworks were embedded separately in the songs of a compilation to show their original album arts, which is how I did the Word Of Mouth compilation, (which I also screenshotted here from the Samsung file manager which displays that in the file manager we can see the individually embedded songs embedded arts in its little file manager thumbnail) there is no individually embedded artwork recognition in the AOD enabled samsung music app. The lockscreen displays show that VLC will have these Word Of Mouth albun arts as different.
Seen in the remaining screenshots:
It's not the only AOD enabled music app. Good play music works just fine as do others.
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It's not the only AOD enabled music app. Good play music works just fine as do others.
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I am of course speaking of the following always on display as seen in the following screenshot
(though I haven't tried those other apps) ...and not the screenshots in my prior post which are lockscreen shots.
Meanwhile after a decharge today from 100% down to now 44%, it has still not indexed my music files completely as at least one folder is still not seen atop the latest folders list. Most of them just showed up in the last hour or two though. About 24 hours so far since it started.
Presumably it must be storing all these artworks in the system, they are all there as I scroll the lists.
As my sd isn't formatted to the phone but only external.
Man, just buy a better sd card and dont blame the phone for this or atleast try to format this one and try again.
Man. Maaaaan haha. Don't tell people what to do. Aggression indicated stupidity thats just stupid you know. Literally. Loser. I bet you don't even keep any music on your phone. Probably using Spotify. Not me I'm from a different generation. We used to buy physical copies of our music albums, and carry them around with us. The music then was better too.
The phone must be using some sort of sdcard block by block scan eh. It still finding items on the thing. Not exactly a normal method to find files. I'm guessing it locates the head folder, but in my case it's a complex tree.
So if it is the sdcard being 500 GB card. That's a pretty good sized card anyway.
But it is still finding stuff screenshotted it then left it over night (after charge and restart) and it added some 10 more albums or so to the list.
It's not about size of card, but read/write speed, the slower the card the longer it takes for the phone to update the album arts.
I have no problem with this app. I have 6 GB music files in my SD card and it loads all albums and album arts immediately when I open the app. My SD card is Samsung Evo+ 128GB.
Slowly now. Latest rate appears to be finding about 1/hr. Samsung card. Singly written. Couple months old. EVO.
Also it is really fast to load those arts once it finds the absolute block in the SD cards file system.. VLC has always been ultra slow at loading all the music. If one were to attempt to enter an artist heading in VLC or album heading, it could take minutes to resolve the artist or album.
This app has its negative points, but it also has its positive points. I am not here to criticize the app. I am here making a point to observe it. Really pleased with the Samsung apps as I said in the op. The keyboard and the file manager I especially like. The points where the music app slips in finding some arts are probably gonna be repairable by changing out the few non functional music files on a case by case basis.
Seriously fast app for loading the musics and arts. real time jump anywhere in the list by track or albun. Very pleased.
VLC vs Samsung data usage stat for 300 GB of music. this app is like a window to my SD card.
Samsung s native music app is trash honestly.
I would recommend a alternative like vinyl player or black player.
Not pleased again. Used Smart Switch to do a phone backup, took out the sd card, put back in, restored the backup, and now it is re-indexing the music again. So once again my latest added folders are not here. Once again can't listen to my newest adds like Madonna's GHV2 for example, if I wanted to (with the Samsung music app, at least). Which blows.
I thought once it built its music index it would store it in the permanent. now back to square 1.
I'm glad i don't mess around with this stuff any more. I uploaded all my music to Google Play Music and never looked back. Available anywhere, on any device with internet and i can always download music from Play Music if i really need to. I don't have any need to carry thousands of albums in my pocket.
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I'm glad i don't mess around with this stuff any more. I uploaded all my music to Google Play Music and never looked back. Available anywhere, on any device with internet and i can always download music from Play Music if i really need to. I don't have any need to carry thousands of albums in my pocket.
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That's cool. is that a sharable playlist or what? I can't say as I've heard of that one how does it work? You pay a subscription fee or what?
I have purchased a few albuns off of Google play store but I don't like the feeling of staying connected to the internet. So I can't rely on the internet.
Really ridiculous this app is slowly reloading those folders again. This all started cause I heard from the Samsung store that they could replace my carrier version of the software with something from Samsung. Which they then failed to do. Not something I would do very often.
Massive deceleration curve for this indexing thing. Been screenshotting the progress over the past several hours. The window over thr albums holds it's viewpoint above the list. Say it was started in the 4th quarter of the Alphabet (by albun population) at album number 1200, after 400 albums are added it enters the third quarter by going through first the T's backwards from Tzolkin Date to T Rex.Then on into the S's rising towards the top but staying at a viewpoint of album #1200 in the list, which now would have over 1600
While the population happens over a graph of time on the x axis. The y axis charts the speed of albums added. The curve is hyperbolic deceleration over time.
Last time the indexing was being completed, I saw a few albums still being added. (before the restart happened today).
Between 5 or 1 (guestimated but def. odd numbered amount) entries appeared sometime after noon today as shown in the following two screenshots. Seen by the shift of the Title on the upper left into the right column. This happened around 60 hours after the start of indexing Tuesday evening.
I think send feedback to developer of app and till they fix the problem try another app , i use Poweramp for years for all my music needs