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Licenced Software CAB conversion

Does anyone know if you can take a piece of software that you have purchased in CAB format, with a Licence Key and change it into a package?
Since the software isn't OEM is it still the same method to create a package?

Any Takers?
This cant be to much of a hard question!!! can anyone answer? please

Tried it with Phone Alarm. sort of worked at the second attempt. But not quite. If I spent more time on it I reckon I could have got it to work but just don't have the time.

crazyC said:
Tried it with Phone Alarm. sort of worked at the second attempt. But not quite. If I spent more time on it I reckon I could have got it to work but just don't have the time.
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but you can actually do it? what do you do about the activation codes etc?

The code is probably just stored in the registry or a config file after you enter it, in which case just make an RGU in the package putting the right data into the right place.
Some software might encrypt the code.. but even then usually putting the right encrypted string in the right place will work.. You may have to have the owner information set exactly the same each time (as this may be hashed into the generated key) but this isnt a problem as you can set the owner information in the RGU as well.
If you get a program where you cannot track the installation to see what happens when entering serials etc.. try SKTracker.. you can use it to watch the ppc for changes to files, databases and registry and dump those changes for analysis... so you install it.. make a reference dump.. then install/register the app.. then dump again.. then compare to see what has changed.
Some apps it wont work with of course.. but i'd imagine for most it will be possible yes. The worst that happens is you have the app installed in trial mode.. and a text file burned to the ROM with the serials you have bought in it to re-register it when needed after a hard reset.

Yeah - SK tracker is fantastic. Generally it just involves exporting a reg key from your PPC and then putting it into the cab/package along with your owner name (in some cases).
All my licensed software has been set to install via cabs including the keys. Not found any that cannot be done this way.
Problems arise with more complicated installs that involve interfacing with the system. Just using the normal conversion process with the PA cab did not work, needed to run SK tracker and fix a load more reg entries that were changed by the instll prcess. Improved it but still had issues with no sounds etc. I must have missed something, and have temporarily given up. The cab only takes a minute to install anyway.

tbstart.exe?? Help?

I have hit the reboot on the back of my dell x50v and for the last couple times it says that "tbstart.exe failed to start, may need to reinstall".
I have no idea what this is and tried a search and found nothing on the internet.
Anyone have any idea what this is? I also posted another problem about my device now not recognizing my home network and says the ssid is hidden, are these two items related? I have wm5 ao2.
Any ideas?

I'd say that if everything is working the way it should on your phone, then go to the windows startup folder and remove the link to it. Don't delet it just yet, cut it and paste it somewhere that you'll remember where it is, like the My Documents folder, just in case you find out that you did need it for some program. More than likely, the reason it failed to start is because you removed the program and it forgot to delete the startup link. Don't worry that removing the link will cause your phone not to boot or something like that either because your phone is already rebooting without the program anyway.

read files from bootloader...phone stuck in calibration screen and activesync KO???

Hi to all! I installed a new cooked great rom to my trinity a month ago and it worked fine. it is this rom
[ROM][ITA]WM 6.1 Elegance edition 2.14 (OS 5.2.19213 Build 19213.1.0.0)[ONLINE]
today I got a strange error and the phone was stuck. I unplugged the battery and when I started again it was stuck on the calibration screen. if I tap on the screen nothing happens but the backlight turns on if it was off so it still catches the taps. I connected the phone via usb to delete from the autostart menu the link to the configuration screen (welcome.exe) but the phone is not deteced by activesync so no way to browse folders on my device or use a program like SOTI to control the ppc. I want to bring it back to life as I know that my files hasn't been deleted. in fact if I press the right soft button I get a menu of a program I put in the ppc and it's not included in the elegance rom so I'm sure my files and my configuration and everything are still there.
if i get a phone call the phone rings (with the default ringtone anyway, but the name of the caller is displayed correctly, that's why I'm sure my device still has all my contacts and more)
what could I do?
is there a way to edit files from bootloader? does mtty work for this? (I have no idea how to use mtty so I might be wrong) could I make a full dump, edit the startup folder and reflash the phone with all my data?
I tried to use mortscript witht the autorun feature to read a part of the register regarding the welcome file and deleting it's link in the startup folder but the sd card driver is not loaded I think as the files are not launched, while in another phone the same script works fine.
thanks in advance to all who will have time and will to help me
pcwizzul

as far as i know (not that much), reading files from bootloader is pretty impossible.
You can always just reflash. If the touchscreen problem persists, it's possible that the problem is hardware related.
Your computer should detect your device when in bootloader, and failing that, you should be able to SD flash (assuming you're HardSPL'd or equivalent, thats just what we have in the herald forum)

Thanks for your help
I'm quite sure the hardware is fine as all my problems started after a crash of the OS.
Anyone has an idea to get access to my ppc?

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Hi to all! I installed a new cooked great rom to my trinity a month ago and it worked fine. it is this rom
[ROM][ITA]WM 6.1 Elegance edition 2.14 (OS 5.2.19213 Build 19213.1.0.0)[ONLINE]
today I got a strange error and the phone was stuck. I unplugged the battery and when I started again it was stuck on the calibration screen. if I tap on the screen nothing happens but the backlight turns on if it was off so it still catches the taps. I connected the phone via usb to delete from the autostart menu the link to the configuration screen (welcome.exe) but the phone is not deteced by activesync so no way to browse folders on my device or use a program like SOTI to control the ppc. I want to bring it back to life as I know that my files hasn't been deleted. in fact if I press the right soft button I get a menu of a program I put in the ppc and it's not included in the elegance rom so I'm sure my files and my configuration and everything are still there.
if i get a phone call the phone rings (with the default ringtone anyway, but the name of the caller is displayed correctly, that's why I'm sure my device still has all my contacts and more)
what could I do?
is there a way to edit files from bootloader? does mtty work for this? (I have no idea how to use mtty so I might be wrong) could I make a full dump, edit the startup folder and reflash the phone with all my data?
I tried to use mortscript witht the autorun feature to read a part of the register regarding the welcome file and deleting it's link in the startup folder but the sd card driver is not loaded I think as the files are not launched, while in another phone the same script works fine.
thanks in advance to all who will have time and will to help me
pcwizzul
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if the sdcarddriver is not loaded then the following will not work but give it a try anyways. make a text file "whatever.txt" no quotes then rename it to "welcome.not" no quotes then put it in the root of your storage card and it should skip the whole startup process. that is if it loads the sd card driver or you might want to think about flashing another rom

I already tried the "welcome.not" trick but got no results. I'm afraid that the sd card driver is not loaded then.
Thanks for the hint irus anyway!
Really there's no way to read files from bootloader or something similar?

not that i know of
but the fact that your issue was noticed during a rom flash
dont mean it's not hardware related
much like a heart attack which happens during a thunderstorm
dont need be related to the thunderstorm

Wait! The error never happened during a flash. I never said it. I had that rom on my trinity since a month and it worked like a charm. Then suddenly I got an error and the phone was stuck.
I have understood what you mean but at least I hope it's not a hardware failure!

Stupid question - are ROM files REALLY ROM files?

Hi. I am relatively new with the PDA scene and as much as I would have loved to read an answer to my question from some other thread instead of starting a new one, I could not do it cos there are none. At least in "idiot's guide" style.
To the question that is stated in the title. As much as I have understood, there are (at least) three storage areas on a device (mine being Vodafone v1520) - the ROM, the EXT ROM and the files that we see on under "My Device" in Explorer. Some of the files have been marked as "ROM" if to look at the properties and those cannot be deleted (at least I haven't found any way) but they can be overwritten (with Resco or smth). The point of my question is that when I overwrite the WELCOME.GIF file (marked as ROM file, it's VF splash screen) it does overwrite it nicely (confirmed) but when I hard reset, it's back. Although I don't understand also why after overwriting I still see the VF logo instead of my own file, that is a separate issue.
The reason I am asking this is that nobody in this forum has been able to answer me how to unlock the EXTROM part on that ASUS P550 that I have. So I thought maybe if I change the STARTER.EXE or GENERALINSTALLER.EXE to something pointless, the EXTROM part won't be installed.
Although I suspect the VF logo is displayed from EXTROM part while booting, cos there is nowhere else that same file in normal storage.
Summary:
1) Does changing files marked as "ROM" really change ROM files or is it until the next hard reset and why?
2) Does anyone know how to unlock and unhide the EXTROM part on ASUS P550?
3) Does anyone know where the VF splash screen comes from while booting?
If anyone has ANY information on these issues, PLEASE enlighten me. It seems that there are a lot of senior members who have the knowledge but are quite unwilling to share it. I don't know why but it seriously sucks that they don't reply to threads or PM. I thought this forum was for helping each other, not giggling behind the screen: "I know something You don't". At least that is the impression that I have recently gained when trying to contact people that have the knowledge.
Thanks.

aiiro
The answer to your "stupid" question - "are ROM files REALLY ROM files" - is NO.
The question is not stupid and the files are really not the files.
Actually you have only the information about the files in ROM - the name, the size and other attributes. That's it.
You are not really overwritting anything when you copy the different file with the same name to ROM.
If you somehow dump the ROM from your device - you'll get real files.
Welcome Gif can permanently be changed only in dump.
Unlocking EXTROM .... I am not sure that I got what you mean. And why do you want to do that. But do the following: with Resco Registry go to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC2\FATFS
Change MountHidden value from 1 to 0
You will be able to see the EXTROM content.
VF splash screen definitely comes from Windows folder of your device while booting - it's a part of the ROM.

OK, thanks for a quite thorough reply, but I still don't get it then - why does Resco (or similar prog) ask to overwrite the file? OR, if it doesn't overwrite it, how do I see the new file in Windows folder and the prog looking for splash screen file does not?
The EXTROM fascinates me because after hard reset the device is installing some "Auto Installation packages" and as far as I have found out those come from the EXTROM. I suspected that the WELCOME.GIF came from there too but now I am not sure. Might have to dump the ROM somehow and look into it but there are not many people with P550 and like I said those who have, don't have the willingness to help with that.
BTW, thanks also for the tip about the registry, but I have tried all the registry tweaks that I have found (including the abovementioned) but none of the works...
Thanks again and looking forward to Your (or anyone else's) comments.

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OK, thanks for a quite thorough reply, but I still don't get it then - why does Resco (or similar prog) ask to overwrite the file? OR, if it doesn't overwrite it, how do I see the new file in Windows folder and the prog looking for splash screen file does not?
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Resco has been done like you have!
Try to do the following: copy your own Welcome.gif to Windows folder. You will be prompted to overwrite. Say yes. Then simply delete that file. It will not disappear - the old version of file will become visible again. ROM is not a number of files - it is one file which contains a copy of the data that later will be written (flashing process) straight to a read-only memory chip.
(Pay attention on my words "read-only")
Imagine yourself a wall painted with a hell of 100 dollar bills. You can see them. But you cannot take one of them. You can even glue you own bill upon the drawn one. It will work. But when you wash the wall (hard-reset) - your real paper bill will be washed down and the old painted one will appear (sorry for metaphor)
BTW, thanks also for the tip about the registry, but I have tried all the registry tweaks that I have found (including the abovementioned) but none of the works...
Thanks again and looking forward to Your (or anyone else's) comments.
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Nothing works probably cause the registry is write-protected. Unlock your registry by changing the following:
HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies\00001001 = 1
HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies\00001005 = 40
But! You would do it with the digitally signed regedit. For example - one is attached. Unzip it to your device, run it, change the security policy settings, reboot. Then try to tweak your Asus again.
The attached regedit has OEM Sign 2005 - hopefully it will work for you.

Thank You for a thorough explanation and especially for the metaphore - it was very helpful.
But about the registry - wow... I mean I haven't even heard of unlocking registry...
As usually, answers are generating new questions. The ones I have now are:
1) How come some of the registry tweaks made with Resco still work even now - like showing the clock instead of battery (changing the TBOpt key) etc and the values are still there after soft reset?
2) Resco is also digitally signed, isn't it?
3) If I use this app, will hard reset still create a clean registry? (The answer to this probably is "yes" but I still ask just to be sure).
4) Can I seriously f**k up something with this method?
Thanks in advance.
But

aiiro said:
... answers are generating new questions. The ones I have now are:
1) How come some of the registry tweaks made with Resco still work even now - like showing the clock instead of battery (changing the TBOpt key) etc and the values are still there after soft reset?
2) Resco is also digitally signed, isn't it?
3) If I use this app, will hard reset still create a clean registry? (The answer to this probably is "yes" but I still ask just to be sure).
4) Can I seriously f**k up something with this method?
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Read your PM - sure I don't have any subscriptions, but it's OK (I mean PM) - it works.
So:
1. The point is that not the whole registry is write protected - only several "important" parts mostly in HKLM. Normally - if you change someting in HKCU - it will work even with the protected registry. The vendor only protects the keys and values that can cause some "critical" system changes.
2. If to tell the truth - I know that Resco has digital signature - but anyway the permission level of it does not allow you to modify the protected keys. So that's why I offered you to use Regedit, signed with the customizers.
3. For sure - after HardReset you will return to factory defaults completely - it means you registry will again become clean and write-protected.
4. It depends upon what you mean writing "seriously". The worst thing - to damage the bootloader, but you will never do that modifying the registry. So - feel free to do whatever you want - you will always be able to return to factory defaults.

OK, thank You very much for the explanation! I have bookmarked like 200 pages related to PDAs, which means that if even only every 10th page gets bookmarked, I have gone through thousands of pages in 4 months and I haven't stumbled on this information before. So everything You have enlightened me about here is most useful, thanks again!
I hope I will not push it but since You have been so helpful and seem to know stuff, I am risking asking some more questions. First of all, would You happen to know a good "idiot's guide to flashing ROM"? I have read those on the wiki but as they are for HTC devices and asus mobile club russia does not have any basic explanation in English, it's pretty hard to catch the idea. I know that much that there is a PC involved with some kind of programs etc, but that's about it. I don't even know what the hell is a bootloader. There also isn't any good PDA architecture drawings lying around in the net
The second question is also related to hardware. I have the Vodafone v1520 as mentioned above and it has a small annoyance - the earpiece volume adjustment during call does not work. The slider moves and I hear the clicks getting louder or quieter but the volume level of the caller voice does not change. I took it to a repair shop and they told me that it's a faulty hardware but I know that there are people with exactly the same problem in this forum and I find it hard to believe that they installed some kind of faulty earpiece on all these devices. Or is that possible? What do You think?
Thanks.

aiiro
Sorry dude but both your last questions are about the specific device - your Vodafone. To answer - I should buy Asus P550 and get an experience first. It's only 700 bucks in my country but I am not sure that I really wanna have it. My current device (pretty old now) is P525 and the next one will probably be Diamond or something better and more expensive.
Second thing - I am not IT professional - I am just a user. OK, I always use my own (cooked) ROMs but it does not mean that I can give the answers to all your questions!

OK, I knew I was pushing it a little bit and in no way did I mean that You should make some kind of spendings. I just thought maybe You had any ideas and maybe ASUS devices are similar enough that they are compatible ROM-wise with each other or something like that.
Anyway, thanks for those thorough replies - You have been most helpful! As soon as I will have some time I will try the registry things out.
Thanks again and good luck!

try to install this cab file ,I make it .you can QQ me by my QQ:421264988 my E-mail:[email protected]
i'm sorry ,I chinese ,and my English is very poor
安装这个CAB文件试试,我的手机也是P320,安装完解锁成功,但在删除程序里看不到之后安装的程序,欢迎和我交流,我的QQ:421264988 E-mail:[email protected]
对不起,我是中国人,我的英语很差

Modified registry values don't survive reboot?
Try switching the device off before reboot.
The registry is not flushed to disk at every write.
And search the net for
flushing registry pocketpc
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newxda-new said:
Try switching the device off before reboot.
The registry is not flushed to disk at every write.
And search the net for
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So if you reset the handheld without putting it into suspend mode before, you risk losing configuration data (registry settings)?

Rhodium bluetooth not working!!!!!!!!

hi i'd like to know if theres someone who can fix this problem i have, when i go into communications to turn my bluetooth, it wont turn on, a window pops up and tells me it cant turn on, i cant even access the setting for it.
also everytime i start up my Rhodium, a error window pops up and says
BTTrayCE.exe
'BTTrayCE' is not a valid Pocket PC application.
someone plz help me with this thank you

DjSoundScan said:
hi i'd like to know if theres someone who can fix this problem i have, when i go into communications to turn my bluetooth, it wont turn on, a window pops up and tells me it cant turn on, i cant even access the setting for it.
also everytime i start up my Rhodium, a error window pops up and says
BTTrayCE.exe
'BTTrayCE' is not a valid Pocket PC application.
someone plz help me with this thank you
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hi have you installed tomtom by any chance if so have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4362258&postcount=6
cheers

DjSoundScan said:
hi i'd like to know if theres someone who can fix this problem i have, when i go into communications to turn my bluetooth, it wont turn on, a window pops up and tells me it cant turn on, i cant even access the setting for it.
also everytime i start up my Rhodium, a error window pops up and says
BTTrayCE.exe
'BTTrayCE' is not a valid Pocket PC application.
someone plz help me with this thank you
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I have the exact same problems. I suspect the BTTrayCE error is from installing a version of tomtom that doesnt work on this phone (which i did do).
Any help regarding the bluetooth would be appreciated as mine behaves the same as described above (it basically only gives the option of connecting to bluetooth headphones...)

You will have to do a hard reset. You'll lose all your installed programs and settings.
If you remove the bluetooth drivers from the TomTom CAB you'll be able to install it without messing up the bluetooth (google to find a program to do this).

DuncanMcCloud said:
I have the exact same problems. I suspect the BTTrayCE error is from installing a version of tomtom that doesnt work on this phone (which i did do).
Any help regarding the bluetooth would be appreciated as mine behaves the same as described above (it basically only gives the option of connecting to bluetooth headphones...)
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I got it sorted, did as was said on page 7. You must use total commander.

solution to tt7 bluetooth mess up
no need to hard reset. just rename and delete the following files and soft reset your device. woked for me.
\Windows\BtSdkCE30.dll
\Windows\BtCoreIf.dll

ive got the same problem, but i cant find the files. its in device\windows right?? where else might the files be?

Rename the files and replace them with the ones mentioned above. It fixed my problem.

DuncanMcCloud said:
Rename the files and replace them with the ones mentioned above. It fixed my problem.
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I'm using Total Commander. When I try to rename the file, the file name remains as the original. When I try to delete the file, the screen tells me that it cannot delete the file. I have not installed Tom Tom or anything else. Help?