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Hi. I am relatively new with the PDA scene and as much as I would have loved to read an answer to my question from some other thread instead of starting a new one, I could not do it cos there are none. At least in "idiot's guide" style.
To the question that is stated in the title. As much as I have understood, there are (at least) three storage areas on a device (mine being Vodafone v1520) - the ROM, the EXT ROM and the files that we see on under "My Device" in Explorer. Some of the files have been marked as "ROM" if to look at the properties and those cannot be deleted (at least I haven't found any way) but they can be overwritten (with Resco or smth). The point of my question is that when I overwrite the WELCOME.GIF file (marked as ROM file, it's VF splash screen) it does overwrite it nicely (confirmed) but when I hard reset, it's back. Although I don't understand also why after overwriting I still see the VF logo instead of my own file, that is a separate issue.
The reason I am asking this is that nobody in this forum has been able to answer me how to unlock the EXTROM part on that ASUS P550 that I have. So I thought maybe if I change the STARTER.EXE or GENERALINSTALLER.EXE to something pointless, the EXTROM part won't be installed.
Although I suspect the VF logo is displayed from EXTROM part while booting, cos there is nowhere else that same file in normal storage.
Summary:
1) Does changing files marked as "ROM" really change ROM files or is it until the next hard reset and why?
2) Does anyone know how to unlock and unhide the EXTROM part on ASUS P550?
3) Does anyone know where the VF splash screen comes from while booting?
If anyone has ANY information on these issues, PLEASE enlighten me. It seems that there are a lot of senior members who have the knowledge but are quite unwilling to share it. I don't know why but it seriously sucks that they don't reply to threads or PM. I thought this forum was for helping each other, not giggling behind the screen: "I know something You don't". At least that is the impression that I have recently gained when trying to contact people that have the knowledge.
Thanks.
aiiro
The answer to your "stupid" question - "are ROM files REALLY ROM files" - is NO.
The question is not stupid and the files are really not the files.
Actually you have only the information about the files in ROM - the name, the size and other attributes. That's it.
You are not really overwritting anything when you copy the different file with the same name to ROM.
If you somehow dump the ROM from your device - you'll get real files.
Welcome Gif can permanently be changed only in dump.
Unlocking EXTROM .... I am not sure that I got what you mean. And why do you want to do that. But do the following: with Resco Registry go to
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC2\FATFS
Change MountHidden value from 1 to 0
You will be able to see the EXTROM content.
VF splash screen definitely comes from Windows folder of your device while booting - it's a part of the ROM.
OK, thanks for a quite thorough reply, but I still don't get it then - why does Resco (or similar prog) ask to overwrite the file? OR, if it doesn't overwrite it, how do I see the new file in Windows folder and the prog looking for splash screen file does not?
The EXTROM fascinates me because after hard reset the device is installing some "Auto Installation packages" and as far as I have found out those come from the EXTROM. I suspected that the WELCOME.GIF came from there too but now I am not sure. Might have to dump the ROM somehow and look into it but there are not many people with P550 and like I said those who have, don't have the willingness to help with that.
BTW, thanks also for the tip about the registry, but I have tried all the registry tweaks that I have found (including the abovementioned) but none of the works...
Thanks again and looking forward to Your (or anyone else's) comments.
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OK, thanks for a quite thorough reply, but I still don't get it then - why does Resco (or similar prog) ask to overwrite the file? OR, if it doesn't overwrite it, how do I see the new file in Windows folder and the prog looking for splash screen file does not?
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Resco has been done like you have!
Try to do the following: copy your own Welcome.gif to Windows folder. You will be prompted to overwrite. Say yes. Then simply delete that file. It will not disappear - the old version of file will become visible again. ROM is not a number of files - it is one file which contains a copy of the data that later will be written (flashing process) straight to a read-only memory chip.
(Pay attention on my words "read-only")
Imagine yourself a wall painted with a hell of 100 dollar bills. You can see them. But you cannot take one of them. You can even glue you own bill upon the drawn one. It will work. But when you wash the wall (hard-reset) - your real paper bill will be washed down and the old painted one will appear (sorry for metaphor)
BTW, thanks also for the tip about the registry, but I have tried all the registry tweaks that I have found (including the abovementioned) but none of the works...
Thanks again and looking forward to Your (or anyone else's) comments.
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Nothing works probably cause the registry is write-protected. Unlock your registry by changing the following:
HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies\00001001 = 1
HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies\00001005 = 40
But! You would do it with the digitally signed regedit. For example - one is attached. Unzip it to your device, run it, change the security policy settings, reboot. Then try to tweak your Asus again.
The attached regedit has OEM Sign 2005 - hopefully it will work for you.
Thank You for a thorough explanation and especially for the metaphore - it was very helpful.
But about the registry - wow... I mean I haven't even heard of unlocking registry...
As usually, answers are generating new questions. The ones I have now are:
1) How come some of the registry tweaks made with Resco still work even now - like showing the clock instead of battery (changing the TBOpt key) etc and the values are still there after soft reset?
2) Resco is also digitally signed, isn't it?
3) If I use this app, will hard reset still create a clean registry? (The answer to this probably is "yes" but I still ask just to be sure).
4) Can I seriously f**k up something with this method?
Thanks in advance.
But
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... answers are generating new questions. The ones I have now are:
1) How come some of the registry tweaks made with Resco still work even now - like showing the clock instead of battery (changing the TBOpt key) etc and the values are still there after soft reset?
2) Resco is also digitally signed, isn't it?
3) If I use this app, will hard reset still create a clean registry? (The answer to this probably is "yes" but I still ask just to be sure).
4) Can I seriously f**k up something with this method?
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Read your PM - sure I don't have any subscriptions, but it's OK (I mean PM) - it works.
So:
1. The point is that not the whole registry is write protected - only several "important" parts mostly in HKLM. Normally - if you change someting in HKCU - it will work even with the protected registry. The vendor only protects the keys and values that can cause some "critical" system changes.
2. If to tell the truth - I know that Resco has digital signature - but anyway the permission level of it does not allow you to modify the protected keys. So that's why I offered you to use Regedit, signed with the customizers.
3. For sure - after HardReset you will return to factory defaults completely - it means you registry will again become clean and write-protected.
4. It depends upon what you mean writing "seriously". The worst thing - to damage the bootloader, but you will never do that modifying the registry. So - feel free to do whatever you want - you will always be able to return to factory defaults.
OK, thank You very much for the explanation! I have bookmarked like 200 pages related to PDAs, which means that if even only every 10th page gets bookmarked, I have gone through thousands of pages in 4 months and I haven't stumbled on this information before. So everything You have enlightened me about here is most useful, thanks again!
I hope I will not push it but since You have been so helpful and seem to know stuff, I am risking asking some more questions. First of all, would You happen to know a good "idiot's guide to flashing ROM"? I have read those on the wiki but as they are for HTC devices and asus mobile club russia does not have any basic explanation in English, it's pretty hard to catch the idea. I know that much that there is a PC involved with some kind of programs etc, but that's about it. I don't even know what the hell is a bootloader. There also isn't any good PDA architecture drawings lying around in the net
The second question is also related to hardware. I have the Vodafone v1520 as mentioned above and it has a small annoyance - the earpiece volume adjustment during call does not work. The slider moves and I hear the clicks getting louder or quieter but the volume level of the caller voice does not change. I took it to a repair shop and they told me that it's a faulty hardware but I know that there are people with exactly the same problem in this forum and I find it hard to believe that they installed some kind of faulty earpiece on all these devices. Or is that possible? What do You think?
Thanks.
aiiro
Sorry dude but both your last questions are about the specific device - your Vodafone. To answer - I should buy Asus P550 and get an experience first. It's only 700 bucks in my country but I am not sure that I really wanna have it. My current device (pretty old now) is P525 and the next one will probably be Diamond or something better and more expensive.
Second thing - I am not IT professional - I am just a user. OK, I always use my own (cooked) ROMs but it does not mean that I can give the answers to all your questions!
OK, I knew I was pushing it a little bit and in no way did I mean that You should make some kind of spendings. I just thought maybe You had any ideas and maybe ASUS devices are similar enough that they are compatible ROM-wise with each other or something like that.
Anyway, thanks for those thorough replies - You have been most helpful! As soon as I will have some time I will try the registry things out.
Thanks again and good luck!
try to install this cab file ,I make it .you can QQ me by my QQ:421264988 my E-mail:[email protected]
i'm sorry ,I chinese ,and my English is very poor
安装这个CAB文件试试,我的手机也是P320,安装完解锁成功,但在删除程序里看不到之后安装的程序,欢迎和我交流,我的QQ:421264988 E-mail:[email protected]
对不起,我是中国人,我的英语很差
Modified registry values don't survive reboot?
Try switching the device off before reboot.
The registry is not flushed to disk at every write.
And search the net for
flushing registry pocketpc
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Try switching the device off before reboot.
The registry is not flushed to disk at every write.
And search the net for
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So if you reset the handheld without putting it into suspend mode before, you risk losing configuration data (registry settings)?
On CodePlex I have published my app for tracking working time.
It is based on the SenseUI SDK.
SenseTimeTracker
For furter feature development either this thread can be used or the discussions in CodePlex.
After getting some feedback according to installation problems, I figured out, that the deployed .cab file does not contain the SQL Server Compact 3.5.
This has to be installed manually until I do not provide a msi-setup.
Explanation on how to install the .NET Compact Framwork 3.5 and/or the SQL Server Compact 3.5 has been added on the CodePlex page.
Version history:
Version 1.3
* Length checking of input fields
* Bug fixed with reports when first time card has date in january
* Issue with localization fixed
* Category edit form localized
* Creating new category did throw an excexption
* Default category is hidden in category list
Version 1.2
* cab file now creates a shortcut
* new version detection added
Version 1.1
* Initial release after UI redesign
Installation Procedure
Hi, Could you explain the Installation procedure, other than download and install is there any other additional requirement to get this program up and running?
Thanks
Download the cab file, copy to your mobile device and run it from there.
This shall install SenseTimeTracker on you mobile device.
Let me know if it doesn't, since it is my first publishing. I only installed it on my device or the emulator.
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OK! I downloaded you app, installed and found the following problem, btw I am on a Blackstone using G10 Dusk Ultimate 2 v 8.31
1) There is no icon present for your apps in the programs menu.
I went to programs found the your app and try starting it from there, I got the following error
Ok, SQL server was not deployed. I will try to fix this and provide an update.
On my devices there has been SQLCE installed, so I didn't recognize it.
Thanks for the hint.
wesch00 said:
Ok, SQL server was not deployed. I will try to fix this and provide an update.
On my devices there has been SQLCE installed, so I didn't recognize it.
Thanks for the hint.
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No problem was glad to help, I was looking for a program like that for sometime now , I will test again when you update
You have to install the SQL Server Compact manually, sorry.
See my explanation in CodePlex.
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OK! I downloaded you app, installed and found the following problem, btw I am on a Blackstone using G10 Dusk Ultimate 2 v 8.31
1) There is no icon present for your apps in the programs menu.
I went to programs found the your app and try starting it from there, I got the following error
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You have to install the SQL Server Compact manually, sorry.
See my explanation in CodePlex.
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Hi I downloaded and follow your instructions regarding the installation process and got the top half of the error I posted above when I tried starting the apps also no icon was installed in programs menu I tried it on G10 Ultimate 2 v8.40 release today
The icon issue I couldn't check yesterday, will do that asap. Did a lot of research how to deploy SQL Server Compact.
But could you run the app?
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The icon issue I couldn't check yesterday, will do that asap. Did a lot of research how to deploy SQL Server Compact.
But could you run the app?
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No, its not running, when I try runnunig it I get the same error box but only the top half of the message the bottom half is gone.
That makes no sense since allways an explanation of the exception is displayed.
If you installed the SQL Server Compact, can you try to delete the whole SenseTimeTracker folder in the program as well as in the documents directory (if there is one) and reinstall the cab again.
I checked this yesterday on a clean emulator and it worked. So without any further hints I cannot guess the problem.
Are you familar with developing smart device aps. Then I can send you the project for visual studio and you can try to deploy it from within VS. That shall work. Let me know.
I suggest to contact me via pm, I will help you to fix your problem.
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That makes no sense since allways an explanation of the exception is displayed.
If you installed the SQL Server Compact, can you try to delete the whole SenseTimeTracker folder in the program as well as in the documents directory (if there is one) and reinstall the cab again.
I checked this yesterday on a clean emulator and it worked. So without any further hints I cannot guess the problem.
Are you familar with developing smart device aps. Then I can send you the project for visual studio and you can try to deploy it from within VS. That shall work. Let me know.
I suggest to contact me via pm, I will help you to fix your problem.
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Hi, I flashed an orginal HD rom, installed net, sql and then your apps went to programs and started timetracker and it worked, I reflashed a cooked rom did the installation and it also worked I tried entering some information I got some error that require me to restart timetracker one of the error is attached, I will flash G10 rom again as this is my rom of choice and I will let you know how that went
I must say thanks for what I have seen so far if I get it working on G10 rom I will do some more in dept testing.
Thanks again for sharing
Ok, I see, it has nothing to do with your ROM.
I think there is a bug with the categories which only occurs on an empty/fresh database. On my tests I've had everytome a filled one, since I implemented category support later on.
I had some minutes to try it on a fresh installtion. Unfortunatly I cannot reproduce this bug. Can you plz provide more info, what in which order you entered for getting this error. I first created a user which is mandatory. Then created a client, then a project for that client and then a task for that project. Now entering a timecard did work, since the default category ("unknown") was used. The error you've got is a key violation between task and category. This should not occour, but I need to know in what order you entered the data.
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Ok, I see, it has nothing to do with your ROM.
I think there is a bug with the categories which only occurs on an empty/fresh database. On my tests I've had everytome a filled one, since I implemented category support later on.
I had some minutes to try it on a fresh installtion. Unfortunatly I cannot reproduce this bug. Can you plz provide more info, what in which order you entered for getting this error. I first created a user which is mandatory. Then created a client, then a project for that client and then a task for that project. Now entering a timecard did work, since the default category ("unknown") was used. The error you've got is a key violation between task and category. This should not occour, but I need to know in what order you entered the data.
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Sorry for not replying sooner, I was trying some other roms but no luck getting this app to work on those other roms that I flash, for me its only working on stock and Energy GTX I am presently downloading a 6.5 rom to test all others has been 6.5.x.
I have been able to reproduce the error again and again, try this
Go to category select new and create a new category everything should be ok, create another one and it should crash, also I am unable to edit the category "unknown"
More Crashes
Hi, I did some more test and I got more errors I have attach one picture, let me try to explain
1) If I try to copy the TimCard it crashes
2) TaskName is to long it crahes
I got a couple more crashes but I forgot where in the apps they occour however it seems that is not handling user input error well maybe a dialog box should appear and tell the user that the TaskName is to long or something like that I also think you should try and test if all but most of the option like copy, remove, edit, maybe it my rom related but you could still check just to be sure.
Thx again for the responses.
Couls get it allready run with the other ROMs? I have no opinion about these ROMs. I do not use any special functiuons, it is only .Net-code. The only explanation I have would be that there are problems with drawing. Bit this is done by the SenseUI framework which I cannot modify or debug.
Now to the issues.
The Category issue I could allready fix for me, will update it soon. Dont use categores for the mean while, use only "Unknow". You can change it later when it works. The "Unknow" category should not be editable, I will hide it in the next release.
The issue with the task names beeing too long is a bit more difficult to fix, I'll try to find a solution (need a common one since this will be happen with all inputs).
For the issue with copying a time card, I need a screendum of the error. I use copying of time cards allmost every day and never had problems. So it should be some special in your entries. If I have the error output, I hope to have an idea.
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Thx again for the responses.
Couls get it allready run with the other ROMs? I have no opinion about these ROMs. I do not use any special functiuons, it is only .Net-code. The only explanation I have would be that there are problems with drawing. Bit this is done by the SenseUI framework which I cannot modify or debug.
Now to the issues.
The Category issue I could allready fix for me, will update it soon. Dont use categores for the mean while, use only "Unknow". You can change it later when it works. The "Unknow" category should not be editable, I will hide it in the next release.
The issue with the task names beeing too long is a bit more difficult to fix, I'll try to find a solution (need a common one since this will be happen with all inputs).
For the issue with copying a time card, I need a screendum of the error. I use copying of time cards allmost every day and never had problems. So it should be some special in your entries. If I have the error output, I hope to have an idea.
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Hi, I have flashed back to my rom of choice as I need it for work, I also used an apps name Pocket Time, I was hoping to get your working as your is mor mordern and has more options, anyway I will be able to test your program again this weekend and I its working for me I will change my rom and start using your apps I like it.
I have attach the detail section or the Task Name error for you to look at also I have attach the error and the error detail section of G10 rom maybe from those pictures you can figrue why it dosent start
The last five is from G10
Thanks
Thx for the dumps.
As I allready wrote, the problem with the length of the description is a common problem. I did know, that it wasn't checked. I will release a new version today (1.3) which supports those checks.
The other problem has something to do with the serialisation/deserialisation of the user settings. These are stored in an XML-file in the application directory. And it seems, that the existing date time format has problems.
Is the language of your G10 ROM a different than the default ROM? I assume, you have created the XML the first time with on ROM and now trying to read it with another on. And the DateTime format of both are different and cannot be parsed.
Try to delete the xml-file in the app directory and start the app again with the G10 ROM. Let me know, if this solved the problem. May be I can then find a solution therefor. If you delete the xml-File, you will be asked for selecting a user. Select you previous eneterd user. If you navigate away from the user panel, you will be asked for the password you entered previously.
If you not allready entered sensitive data, you can send my the database (sdf-file) and the xml-file. Then I can try to debug it. I've had a lokk into the xml-file and saw there are only two time fields where the time is entered as 8:00:00 and 17:00:00. If this format is not valid on your ROM due to another culture, then this may cause the error you posted. What is the usual time format on your country?
Then I have a question according this ROM. The error occurs in Deserialize while reading a DateTime value. I have a try-parse in the deserializing section. So no exception should be thrown by the app. If there is an error in the XML file, defaults are used. I did try this on my device and ti worked that way. So I really do not know, why the exception is thrown. Ist there any special in your ROM handling exceptions?
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Thx for the dumps.
As I allready wrote, the problem with the length of the description is a common problem. I did know, that it wasn't checked. I will release a new version today (1.3) which supports those checks.
The other problem has something to do with the serialisation/deserialisation of the user settings. These are stored in an XML-file in the application directory. And it seems, that the existing date time format has problems.
Is the language of your G10 ROM a different than the default ROM? I assume, you have created the XML the first time with on ROM and now trying to read it with another on. And the DateTime format of both are different and cannot be parsed.
Try to delete the xml-file in the app directory and start the app again with the G10 ROM. Let me know, if this solved the problem. May be I can then find a solution therefor. If you delete the xml-File, you will be asked for selecting a user. Select you previous eneterd user. If you navigate away from the user panel, you will be asked for the password you entered previously.
If you not allready entered sensitive data, you can send my the database (sdf-file) and the xml-file. Then I can try to debug it. I've had a lokk into the xml-file and saw there are only two time fields where the time is entered as 8:00:00 and 17:00:00. If this format is not valid on your ROM due to another culture, then this may cause the error you posted. What is the usual time format on your country?
Then I have a question according this ROM. The error occurs in Deserialize while reading a DateTime value. I have a try-parse in the deserializing section. So no exception should be thrown by the app. If there is an error in the XML file, defaults are used. I did try this on my device and ti worked that way. So I really do not know, why the exception is thrown. Ist there any special in your ROM handling exceptions?
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Hi, I am using the original G10 WWE Ultimate 2 v8.31 rom out of the box in fact all the ROM I have tried this app on has been out of the box, will try flashing and trying your app again this weekend.
Are you using your app on an original stock rom or a cooked rom?
I'm using the app on the updated but original HTC ROM. But it did also work on the nonupdated.
The description of you exception shows me, that the problem has something to do with the localized date time format. What localizaion do you use. And I think you've got it allready running with another ROM. What localization do you have there?
What I totally do not understand, in my opinion there should not be thrown an exception, since serialization is done within a try/catch block. If there is an deserialization error, it should be catched and defaults should be used, which I have testet.
This app is designed so that you can keep track of any medications you take on a regular basis.
When you last ordered a particular drug, how many you currently have to hand, which surgery the repeat was requested from and which pharmacy filled the prescription.
It is designed to be used for multiple patients, surgeries, pharmacies and doctors.
It was initially an Access database but I thought that migrating it to my PPC was a challenge I might be able to complete.
There will also be the ability to log doctor's appointments as well, hopefully.
All data is currently stored in an SQL-CE database.
For reasons I am currently trying to solve, when you open any secondary form with a data table and then return to the main menu you are unable to go back into any other form again.
Changed to a tabbed layout, screen shots attached.
09/02/2011
New version attached with new format SQLCE.
17-Mar-2011
Latest version attached
All data entry and editing working - I hope.
08-Apr-2011
Latest version, autoscroll and popup SIP.
Possible dependant files.
I am coding for CF2.
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[PROJ] Prescription Medicines Manager
...medications you take on a regular basis.
When you last ordered a particular drug, how many you currently have to hand, which surgery the repeat was requested from and which pharmacy filled the prescription...
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Thank you!
These records can be life-saving if you have them with you at the right time. I have tried many systems of keeping track, but rarely managed to have anywhere close to this much information on hand.
I have not had time to try it out properly so I do not yet have any comments or suggestions. For now, I just wanted to say THANKS!
Glad it's going to be if use to someone.
Hopefully by the end of tonight I will have a new version up with the ability to add records to each of the tables. No interlinking yet and at the moment editing is also broken but I am getting there.
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Glad it's going to be if use to someone.
Hopefully by the end of tonight I will have a new version up with the ability to add records to each of the tables. No interlinking yet and at the moment editing is also broken but I am getting there.
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Don't feel rushed on my account. It's great that you're interested in this project, whenever you finish will be soon enough.
Meanwhile, I'll play with it and start planning how to "feed" it my information.
Have you considered some sort of encryption? It just occurred to me that it will hold a lot of very personal information.
Again, thank you.
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...at the moment editing is also broken...
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I know next to nothing about programming, but would the PC editor you wrote for the W Watcher calc work for this project? That might make it easier for the user to input the information AND save you some programming...
(BTW: I was very impressed with how quickly you developed those applications! Very usable and no charge for fast delivery!)
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I know next to nothing about programming, but would the PC editor you wrote for the W Watcher calc work for this project? That might make it easier for the user to input the information AND save you some programming...
(BTW: I was very impressed with how quickly you developed those applications! Very usable and no charge for fast delivery!)
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Unfortunately the WW editor is designed for an XML file and this app keeps everything in an SQLCE database. I am trying to find a nice, useable and, more importantly, free desktop app to edit these files and am trying a couple out at present.
While a purely PC based editor would be easier from a WM coding point it would stop the app being completely mobile and standalone.
New version added to post 1.
You can now add records.
For desktop managemnent try
SQLCE Desktop Manager
FlyHoward SDF viewer
Neither of these seem to be free though the second one does have a 14 day trial.
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Of course!
Sorry, I got tunnel vision and forgot the project's purpose.
What am I missing?
I have been unable to run Prescription Medicines Manager on my HTC 8925 (Kaiser) with WM 6.5.x.
When I run the EXE all that happens is that the WM wait animation plays indefinitely until I switch to another application.
Since I play with this phone a lot, I hard reset it to clear any lingering results of my modding (it's a spare phone, so no great loss). Before installing other programs, I ran PMM again, but the same thing happened.
I got the same results with an even older HTC phone running WM 6.1.
SQL desktop applications
I found some free SQL desktop apps. I was only able to get one, SdfBrowser, to read MedicalRecords.sdf and all it allowed was viewing the structure and creating a query.
I'll keep looking, but I agree with you that being totally portable is very important for this project.
LINKS: SdfBrowser --- Resources link
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I have been unable to run Prescription Medicines Manager on my HTC 8925 (Kaiser) with WM 6.5.x.
When I run the EXE all that happens is that the WM wait animation plays indefinitely until I switch to another application.
Since I play with this phone a lot, I hard reset it to clear any lingering results of my modding (it's a spare phone, so no great loss). Before installing other programs, I ran PMM again, but the same thing happened.
I got the same results with an even older HTC phone running WM 6.1.
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Completely forgot to say, you will need to install SQL CE on your HTC.
I do not usually resort to smileys, but my lack of knowledge is frustrating!
deedee said:
Completely forgot to say, you will need to install SQL CE on your HTC.
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I installed SQL CE with no errors but got the same lack of results. The phone did become VERY sluggish and Task Manager still showed "prjMedicalRecords" running as a process.
Does prjMedicalRecords.exe need to be installed?
I just executed it from the SD card, and then tried it from the device memory. I placed MedicalRecords.sdf in the same directory each time.
Update: After about 5 min of the WM wait animation spinning, got the following error message:
"File or assembly name 'System.Data.SqlServerCe,Version 3.0.3600.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=3BE235DF1C8D2AD3', or one of its dependencies, was not found."
I opened the SQL CE .CAB file and it DOES contain "system.data.sqlserverce.dll" it is meant to be installed to "%InstallDir%" and the rest of the DLLs go to "%InstallDir%\v3.5". I used file explorer to look in those directories (%InstallDir%="Microsoft SQL Server Compact Edition") but did NOT find "system.data.sqlserverce.dll" in either dir.
I copied the DLL to "%InstallDir%\v3.5" and ran the program again. The same results occurred.
After soft reset, copied the DLL to "%InstallDir%" and ran PMM again. The same thing happened, long wait, then error msg.
I am falling asleep now, but will try re-installing .NET 3.5 and running PMM again. I'll let you know what happens.
I had gotten the same error before installing SQL CE but did not connect the error to PMM so I ignored it. This time nothing else was happening on the phone.
Apologies for not giving the initial steps, I am new to development and forget others need to be given the assumptions.
SQLCE needs to be installed, as you have done. PMM is just an exe, copy it to the device.
PMM and the SDF file need to be placed in \Program Files\prjMedicalRecords on the device itself. At the moment this location is hard coded and is on my list of things to do to make it "moveable". HTH
New version in post 1 that is now independent of location, just make sure both exe and SDf are in thhe same place.
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New version in post 1 that is now independent of location, just make sure both exe and SDf are in thhe same place.
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Sorry, Deedee. It still does the same thing.
.1. I put both files in device memory (just in case): \Program Files\prjMedicalRecords\
.2. Tried to re-install NET framework 3.5--it refused to install in either device or card memory, saying the same version was already in ROM.
.3. Re-installed sqlceppcwce5armv4i.cab
.4. Ran prjMedicalRecords.exe
After the same delay, it gave the same error.
It also gave a NET error that, because of the delay between program launch and errors, I did not associate with Medical Records before, but it only occurs after I have launched prjMedicalRecords.exe:
"The application failed to load required components. If the .NET Compact Framework is installed on a storage card, please ensure that this card is in place and launch the application again. If this fails, a re-installation of .NET compact Framework is recommended. Support info: -2147483643 (80000005)"
Thank you for your continued interest.
Not sure what the error is pointing to but I am coding for .Net CF v2, CAB in post 2, try installing this.
OK, finally tried this on a virgin device, without using the "debug" option in VS2005 to copy the files and discovered that .NET CF2, along with SQLCE 3 and SQL CE 3 replication is needed.
All CABs are in post 2.
There is a new version hopefully out this weekend with the ability to log patient medications and doctors appointments.
Editing is still on the road map, as is deletion.
New version in post #1, CAB format as well.
Make sure all the dependencies are installed, for me this has been .NET CF2 and the SQLCE cabs.
There are bugs I am aware of but please list anything and everything. As this is my first real App any feedback is welcome.
While Cooking for LEO, many CABs has a self registering Dlls which runs fine from the cab file but when you try to convert the cab to OEM package, this dll looses it self registering functionality because there wasn't any code grabbed to the OEM package that tells the Kitchen to mark it for self registering.
Is there any solution for such a case?
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I'm trying to cook "MOBiDIV_PrayerTimes_Diamond2_B15_TSD_Jun1.Cab " but the problem with the included "fileosp.dll" which requires self registration that is been automatic done while installing the .CAB
So, is there any kind of solution to do it while COOKING the ROM?
Use kheb to grab all the registry keys that are installed during the cab install/reset process. Then put them in your package. Or just search for the keys. We're talking the HKCR\clsid keys, aren't we? They're usually easy enough to find, if you dump and search your registry.
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Use kheb to grab all the registry keys that are installed during the cab install/reset process. Then put them in your package. Or just search for the keys. We're talking the HKCR\clsid keys, aren't we? They're usually easy enough to find, if you dump and search your registry.
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Thanks for your idea.
I did already and got all clsid and inject them in the package but still the same.
It seems emulator is behaving differently than actual device, what you think?
InCities.cdb
After ROM Booting, i re-install the Original Application, it works.
This is normal because the original application is doing something with InCities.cdb file.
I knew that my registry entries is correct because:
1- I checked everything in registry before and after my modification.
2- I checked everything before and after Original Program Change.
changes are identical
BUT
BUT
WHEN I PLAYED WITH (CHANGED) THE REGISTRY ENTRIES:
FROM
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apps\Shared]
"\\Windows\\InCities.cdb"=dword:00000001
TO
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apps\Shared]
"\\Windows\\InCities111111111.cdb"=dword:00000001
then copied another file as the same name
then tried to change it back to original, THE APPLICATION FAILED.......................................
So, Here is the trick but i don't know how to fix.
HTC new drivers Mango Rom will not allow old system apps to get root access, like TouchXplorer does not work on 4.xx above roms.So these days i found a way to make my custom rom based on htc 5.10 rom work perfect with old system apps.
Step 1
get an old htc offical rom, like 1.xx, get a htc offical 4.0x rom.dump them.copy HTCFileUtility.dll and HTCRegUtility.dll from 1.xx rom dump, and HTCProvisionDrv.dll from 4.0x rom dump.(they are both in OEM\HTC_AppDrivers)
Step 2
use the three files(modules) copied above to replace your custom rom, if u are using 4.0x rom as your base skip step 3.
Step 3
replace the ApprovedlistDB.db(in OEM\CSConn_DB) by my uploaded one.
Step 4
use OSBuilder to relloc your modules, or relloc them by yourself(just like me, cause OSBuilder is hard for me to understand how to use it)
Step 5
package your custom rom, and flash it, then you will get a new rom that TouchXplorer and RegistryEditor(this works much faster than before) can work like charm
Step 6
thx DFT bring us HSPL & Julien Schapman bring us magic system tools!
remarkable，thx 4 sharing
Would be awesome if there was a way to restore the old versions in-place without re-flashing the whole phone. CAB maybe? I don't think you can overwrite ROM modules any other way. I've avoided installing the latest HTC updates because I've written a couple apps that rely on the File and Reg DLLs, but that also means I don't have things like the Connected Media app working.
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Would be awesome if there was a way to restore the old versions in-place without re-flashing the whole phone. CAB maybe? I don't think you can overwrite ROM modules any other way. I've avoided installing the latest HTC updates because I've written a couple apps that rely on the File and Reg DLLs, but that also means I don't have things like the Connected Media app working.
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if you can put files in \windows folder, and change reg key under HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\, you can make it works without flash a rom.
cause we could get drivers from htc orginal update cabs then rename them to put into \windows folder and change reg key to make these drivers load, no need to replace.
Well, if you care about this at all, you're already interop-unlocked.
If you're interop-unlocked, then you can set registry values and move files (using provxml).
So... yes, this sounds pretty exciting. Having the official HTC updates but still being able to use TouchXplorer would be awesome.
So, would it just be a matter of copying the old files under new names to the Windows folder and changing the "Dll" value of "HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\HTCFileUtility" and such? Or would something need to be done with the DB as well? I'm not sure if that can be changed on a running device.
Tell me what needs to be done and I'll create a tool to do it.
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Well, if you care about this at all, you're already interop-unlocked.
If you're interop-unlocked, then you can set registry values and move files (using provxml).
So... yes, this sounds pretty exciting. Having the official HTC updates but still being able to use TouchXplorer would be awesome.
So, would it just be a matter of copying the old files under new names to the Windows folder and changing the "Dll" value of "HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\HTCFileUtility" and such? Or would something need to be done with the DB as well? I'm not sure if that can be changed on a running device.
Tell me what needs to be done and I'll create a tool to do it.
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you are on the way, m8.
get drivers from htc update cab, then u'll get files not modules
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\HTCFileUtility]
"Dll"="HTCFileUtility_new.dll"
if you make new HTCFileUtility.dll work, you will have enough power to replace files.
then make your new reg drivers work.
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\HTCRegUtility]
"Dll"="HTCRegUtility_new.dll"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\HTCProvisionDrv]
"Dll"="HTCProvisionDrv_new.dll"
thanks for sharing, waiting for this method for along time.
Thanks ted. I'll update my backup (so I can roll back to working version if I need to) and go hunt down those files.
I don't think I'll need to overwrite HTCProvisionDrv, the current version seems to work just fine. In fact, if it doesn't, there won't be any way to do the overwrite. It's just the registry and filesystem drivers that were broken.
Now I'm wondering what the other HTC drivers do. There's a specific one for Connection Setup and for HTC YouTube, plus drivers for "HTCBgService" (a way to run tasks in the background, I assume) and "HTCVersionUtility" (probably not useful, but maybe?). It would be interesting to examine the APIs of those.
For that matter, it would be interesting to examine the API of things like the provision driver. It appears to have full permissions, but the DMXMLCOM.DLL library used to interface with it has a fairly limited API (no way to get the result of a provxml query, for example). Talking directly to the driver may work better.
Anyhow, off to find the correct CAB!
Sounds pretty awesome! New drivers in Mango with support for old apps - cool! Really hoping for a tool to do this, i've never cooked my own ROM, I solely rely on the experts for this
Hi Ted (or anybody), do you knwo where I can get the pre-Mango HTC cabs? All the cabs I've been able to find are for the Mango HTC updates, and have the wrong versions of the files.
EDIT: Found some that might work. They aren't labeled but the datestamp is from January.
Pretty sure xboxmod has a thread with all the official cabs linked somewhere on xda.
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Thanks. I'll see if the files I found work. They're old enough, and are supposedly from an official update, but it's hard to be sure. Their file sizes are different from the ones in the latest update, but not by much.
The real trick, of course, is seeing whether I can install my own drivers at all or not. I know I can place files and change registry values, we just have to see if the phone will use them.
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HTC new drivers Mango Rom will not allow old system apps to get root access, like TouchXplorer does not work on 4.xx above roms.So these days i found a way to make my custom rom based on htc 5.10 rom work perfect with old system apps.
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Any chance you would release your custom ROM? Can you make one for Trophy, only one using 5.10 version are Ansar's, your's sounds nicer!
Well, I didn't find Xboxmod's cabs, so I'm using the ones linked in Heathcliff74's thread. Unfortunately all the reliable ones are pretty recent, so I don't think they'll work. Last resort I'll try pulling them off my phone's filesystem, but that gets weird with modules.
I've successfully broken TouchXplorer and Connection Setup, and then fixed them again. I think this constitutes progress. Next step: try some older drivers, and see if I can install them without breaking anything. If so, then I'll try updating my phone with the official HTC update, and see if it's still working. If so, I'll clean up the XAP a little and publish.
EDIT: Additional discovery: Connection Setup relies on HTCFileUtility.dll. Installing the broken FileUtility driver causes Connection Setup to complain that there's no database installed on the phone, and then quit. Now I *really* wonder what HTCConnectionSetUp.dll is used for. Also, I'm not gonna touch the Provision driver unless I have to; this testing takes long enough when every step requires a reboot. If I mess up the provision driver I'll probably need to restore the phone backup.
EDIT2: The new HTCConnectionSetUp.dll driver is several times the size of the old one, but it doesn't seem to change how Connection Setup works when I use it. In particular, it still processes CustClear.provxml.
EDIT3: Still not working, even with very old drivers (January). I have a few possible ideas as to why, but it looks like I may need to run this with drivers from my "working" phone instead of from a CAB.
OK, I haven't been able to get this working with any of the DLLs I've been able to pull from CABs, and the DLL modules on the filesystem can't be moved, renamed, or read (ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED when I try to read one using ComFileRW.dll).
I either need the right CAB, the special sauce to make it work with the wrong CAB, or a way to extract those modules as files. I suspect it's at least partially a "special sauce" situation - the errors I get when I try using different drivers are not the same as the errors I get with the official update that breaks third-party apps trying to use those drivers.
I would *REALLY* appreciate some assistance with this. It has the potential to provide an easier interop-unlock (if the official update doesn't reset the driver DLL paths) and even if that doesn't work, it would be a big step forward for HTC homebrew. However, I know nothing about ROM assembly - not even how to extract a file from a shipped ROM. I'm trying to learn, but if somebody wants to point me in the right direction that would be a big help.
EDIT: I managed to extract the ROM module (took some doing; HTCRIE will crash at the drop of a hat if you aren't careful). I can't rebuild the file though - recmod doesn't seem to like it.
if you can use Provxml i have some way to replace module in \Windows dir
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<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKLM\System\Explorer\Shell Folders">
<parm name="My Ringtones" value="\Windows" datatype="string" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
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copy this to notepad and save as File.Provxml file
2.Install DiagProvXMLv0.91
3.Use Chevron Ringtone Installer to copy .Provxml to your phone
4.Run DiagProvXML and go to " File Operations" tab , select Copy (to isoStore)
in Source Path use
\My Documents\My Ringtones\
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and Source File use
File.Provxml
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Press (+) to save ,,
and now go to provxml tab and Press Publish (disk icon) ,,
go to iso store tab and Hold press at File and select Excute ,,
restart your phone and now you can use Chevron Ringtone installer to Add File you need to \Windows\ (sure as module , and defaultcert.dat for cab sender)
Best Regard
PPJD
@peeks20: Thanks (sort of) but your method is both overly complicated and doesn't solve the actual problem. If you're already interop-unlocked (and you have to be, to use DiagProvXML), then it's trivial to write a small app that just uses DMXMLCOM.dll to process whatever provxml commands you want. That includes copying files to the Windows directory.
The problem is that I'm not sure what file to copy, and I'm not sure it'll work even if I have the right file (I've tried multiple official files from various update CABs, and none of them have worked). There's probably either a version-matching function that's getting in the way, or a database somewhere that needs to register the new drivers (beyind just changing the path in the Dll value in the registry). Heck, maybe it's both. The point is, it doesn't work.
Now, if there's something about deploying the files using the Chevron ringtone installer instead of using pvroxml that will make all the difference, that would be cool. I really doubt it, though. The files copy just fine, and can be accessed and opened. They jut don't actually work. I get the same errors as if I point the Dll path in the registry to completely bogus paths ("Dll"="ThisFileDoesNotExist.dll").
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@peeks20: Thanks (sort of) but your method is both overly complicated and doesn't solve the actual problem. If you're already interop-unlocked (and you have to be, to use DiagProvXML), then it's trivial to write a small app that just uses DMXMLCOM.dll to process whatever provxml commands you want. That includes copying files to the Windows directory.
The problem is that I'm not sure what file to copy, and I'm not sure it'll work even if I have the right file (I've tried multiple official files from various update CABs, and none of them have worked). There's probably either a version-matching function that's getting in the way, or a database somewhere that needs to register the new drivers (beyind just changing the path in the Dll value in the registry). Heck, maybe it's both. The point is, it doesn't work.
Now, if there's something about deploying the files using the Chevron ringtone installer instead of using pvroxml that will make all the difference, that would be cool. I really doubt it, though. The files copy just fine, and can be accessed and opened. They jut don't actually work. I get the same errors as if I point the Dll path in the registry to completely bogus paths ("Dll"="ThisFileDoesNotExist.dll").
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i uploaded HTC Appdrivers from Mozart 1.32 & 4.06 update cabs, maybe you can continue your test
Thanks, I'll give them a try. However, I've got to ask - what is Approvedlist.db, and if you have to modify it for a custom ROM, would I also need to modify it for this app? I can't shake the feeling that there's more to installing a driver than just changing a registry value.
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Thanks, I'll give them a try. However, I've got to ask - what is Approvedlist.db, and if you have to modify it for a custom ROM, would I also need to modify it for this app? I can't shake the feeling that there's more to installing a driver than just changing a registry value.
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hard for me to explain this in english, this file decides which Registry keys allow apps to change.its format changed in 5.xx rom, so RegistryEditor v1.2.0.0 didn't work on these roms, we need to use old version HTCRegUtility & HTCProvisionDrv and old format ApprovedlistDB.db to make htc apps and 3rd Registry tools works perfect, that's why you need to replace ApprovedlistDB.db.