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Is it normal or abnormal

My friend gave me his used T-Mobile Vairo 2 for trying.
I took approxiamately 4 hours for charging after the battery is totally empty.When i charged,the ppc is extremely hot,I have used O2 mini and Dopod M700,they were not hot as Vairo 2,this is hot like a laptop run 24/24
When finish,i istalled software from Memory card,play a round during 2hour30 minutes, no wireless or bluetooth.I checked battery at this moment,it was 50% and hot as i mentioned before.
I also enable function "Standby device if not use for 5/10/15 minutes".At 50% of battery, i turned it off in order to go to bed.4 hours later,i open device,it was totally empty (the screen cant boot),then i charged it again,it reseted and warned me that battery is 0%
SO,it is normal or battery problem
Thanks for reading

WTF does this have to do with WM6?
Please post in the correct section.

harman2901 said:
My friend gave me his used T-Mobile Vairo 2 for trying.
I took approxiamately 4 hours for charging after the battery is totally empty.When i charged,the ppc is extremely hot,I have used O2 mini and Dopod M700,they were not hot as Vairo 2,this is hot like a laptop run 24/24
When finish,i istalled software from Memory card,play a round during 2hour30 minutes, no wireless or bluetooth.I checked battery at this moment,it was 50% and hot as i mentioned before.
I also enable function "Standby device if not use for 5/10/15 minutes".At 50% of battery, i turned it off in order to go to bed.4 hours later,i open device,it was totally empty (the screen cant boot),then i charged it again,it reseted and warned me that battery is 0%
SO,it is normal or battery problem
Thanks for reading
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welcome to xda-developers... first i suggest when posting you list your Operating System, Versions, what ROM you are using, what Operator, what programs your running to achieve these figures etc... to give us a little more information to help diagnose the problems...

harman2901 said:
I took approxiamately 4 hours for charging after the battery is totally empty.When i charged,the ppc is extremely hot
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1. This is not forum for battery problems, this is forum for WM6 problems.
2. I had similar problem when I used some 3rd party USB charger. When I switched back to stock one I had no problems. Later I tried to use USB cable to connect to computer and also noticed no problems.

jakubd said:
1. This is not forum for battery problems, this is forum for WM6 problems.
2. I had similar problem when I used some 3rd party USB charger. When I switched back to stock one I had no problems. Later I tried to use USB cable to connect to computer and also noticed no problems.
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I had the same problem with my Cingular 8525 before. Battery is hella hot and even burned my hand once. The battery drains so fast like 320Miles/Seconds..... got a replacement and everything went fine.

Navigation and Car-charger

Just wondered if anyone have come across this.
I've been using Navigation for my PDA as long as I can remember, but after I moved from WiMo devices to Desire, things haven't been working out for me.
TomTom was my first choice on WiMo, but as TomTom does not support Android (yet), I had to look for an alternative.
So far I tested:
CoPilot Live 8
Navigon
MotoNav
Ndrive
Sygic Mobile Maps
Common for all products is this:
When navigating without an external power source, everything works fine - except for CoPilot draining a fully charged battery in less than a coule of hours(!!!)
When navigating with an external powersource, all products - with no exception - will reboot my desire ever so often. Reboots happen in intervals of 5 - 20 minutes. In most cases the Desire will lock up in the start up screen too, and I have to remove the battery. Not good while driving the motorway!
My external powersource is the HTC branded car charger CC C200. I tried with a Nokia charger with the same result. Battery information says 'Charging (AC)'.
In desperation I even tried rooting the device, using Paul's 'Riskfree R6' including a2sd, but to no avail.
Do you think my device is broken, or is this just the way the Desire works?
I searched hi and low, but only found comments on the CoPilot battery drain problem, not Desire rebooting while navigating and connected to car charger.
Any help would be appreciated.
BTW: I also tried google navigation and lo and behold - even works with the car-carger connected. Too bad I don't have a dataplan to support it
PS: I'd hate to go back to my WiMo TouchPro 2..... although I miss the keyboard.....
Cheers
uhdamm

I use Copilot all the time without issue.
First of all, check that your car charger outputs 1A (1000mA). A 500mA charger generally isn't enough to keep the device charged when using GPS navigation.
As to your rebooting problem, I'd suggest flashing a different radio, but it's not something I've heard of before, so I can only make a suggestion rather than provide a definitive solution.
Regards,
Dave

I'm afraid you are experiencing the first signs of a defective motherboard: it heats up and then restarts the device. There are several reports of this if you search the threads and it gets worse over time.
I really hope I'm wrong but you should prepare for it being a possibility (e.g. unroot so you can send it in for repair).

foxmeister said:
First of all, check that your car charger outputs 1A (1000mA). A 500mA charger generally isn't enough to keep the device charged when using GPS navigation.
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Yes, I read that in another thread, and that's why I went for the HTC CC C200 (1500mA).
Which version of CoPilot Live 8 are you using?
pascanu said:
I'm afraid you are experiencing the first signs of a defective motherboard: it heats up and then restarts the device. There are several reports of this if you search the threads and it gets worse over time.
I really hope I'm wrong but you should prepare for it being a possibility (e.g. unroot so you can send it in for repair).
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Thought about that too, but my Desire doesn't feel warm at all, and why would it run just fine, when a charger is not attached? I tried disabling BT/3G/Wireless but same thing happened.
Thanks for your replies guys.

uhdamm said:
Yes, I read that in another thread, and that's why I went for the HTC CC C200 (1500mA).
Which version of CoPilot Live 8 are you using?.
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I'm using 8.0.0.606 and it works fine so far. Haven't tested it on a long trip yet.
What version are you using?

What apps have you got installed, u may have some dodgy interactions

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I'm using 8.0.0.606 and it works fine so far. Haven't tested it on a long trip yet.
What version are you using?
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Same version.
I tested on my way to or from work several times, and within that hour it manages to restart my Desire at least 5 times
Regards

You could install aLogcat from Market and see what exactly happens, what causes your Device to restart. (if you can't figure out what it says you can post your logcat and we will try to help).

I'm using Sygic mobile maps, works perfect with a noname 1000mA car charger.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I used Google nav. And I have a car charger that I got from Sprint (about $30). Everything works perfectly.

uhdamm said:
Same version.
I tested on my way to or from work several times, and within that hour it manages to restart my Desire at least 5 times
Regards
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Im using version 8.0.0.778. Got it form Alk's website and its the one that shows up on Market.

Im using Copilot also, the official version from Android Market place. I use a cheap Cigarte light to USB adapter and have no issue what so ever.
I say install alogcat and see what it say when it reboots.

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Im using version 8.0.0.778. Got the link if you want it.
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I'd appreciate that. Please PM me.
There might have been some bugfixes since '606'.
Cheers

pascanu said:
You could install aLogcat from Market and see what exactly happens, what causes your Device to restart. (if you can't figure out what it says you can post your logcat and we will try to help).
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I installed aLogcat from the market. Looks like a great tool for troubleshooting.
Unfortunately I'm not able to test it on a longer drive, before I'm off for Portugal on my hols Monday. And isn't it ironic - I'll need my Desire to navigate me from the airport to our final destination in a rental-car
I really appreciate your help guys
Enjoy your hols.

I'm using Sygic without any problems. Charging via unversal USB adapter, which I'm guessing provies only 500mA power (while navigating with GPS + BT, the battery doesn't get charged. I think it even loses a few % per hour). Anyway, it is enough for 5+ hours of navigation.
If possible, I would try to use a different charger.

MrUsta said:
I'm using Sygic without any problems. Charging via unversal USB adapter, which I'm guessing provies only 500mA power (while navigating with GPS + BT, the battery doesn't get charged. I think it even loses a few % per hour). Anyway, it is enough for 5+ hours of navigation.
If possible, I would try to use a different charger.
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See HERE and HERE

This weekend i used my Desire with Sygic Mobile Maps 8.06. Had no problems at all on my trip (10 hours continious use each way). Im also using a Nokia car-charger, not sure about the amps on that, but I did'nt have any problems with low battery or anything.

geccco said:
This weekend i used my Desire with Sygic Mobile Maps 8.06. Had no problems at all on my trip (10 hours continious use each way). Im also using a Nokia car-charger, not sure about the amps on that, but I did'nt have any problems with low battery or anything.
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I think the Nokia chargers link out the data wire connections just like your wall charger does and are capable of putting out enough power. If when connected the battery staus says "charging Ac" its got the data wires shorted, If it Says "charging Usb" it thinks its a pc and so limits itself to 500ma so it does not damage the pc.

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cjm1979 said:
I think the Nokia chargers link out the data wire connections just like your wall charger does and are capable of putting out enough power. If when connected the battery staus says "charging Ac" its got the data wires shorted, If it Says "charging Usb" it thinks its a pc and so limits itself to 500ma so it does not damage the pc.
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Hi,
i have a samsung car charger and I also think it's giving out only 500 ma because when I use navigation the phone slowly discharges. if I stop the navigation then it will charge again.
So what I want to do is to short out the 2 middle pins which are the data pins.
I already tested with the multimeter and there is no connection between the 2 data pins in my car charger.
So please tell me :
1. is it safe to short out the data pins on my car charger?
2. what exactly should I see on the phone ? ( when I plug it to the wallcharger its just charging without any message ( unlike usb charge where you have a specific message)
3. If everything will work ok ... how can I be sure that the charger will provide me 1000ma instead of only 500ma ?

[Q] GPS + Charge

Hi guys,
I love my HOX, and all the G3 fans can bite me (had to take it out).
Now, my only issue, is when i GPS (Waze/iGo) i need to charge the phone obviously.
but after 20-30-40 minutes the phone show me blinking green-red led, and i understand it stop charging.
Anything to do with this ?
its big issue since its making the GPS kind of unusable for longer trips.
10x,
Chura

Hello, do you use a 1 amp car charger ?
Unless, the only solution i have seen from here is to "fake" the car charger as an AC charger
but i never had to do such thing by chance ... i never use GPS on long travels ...
Looks like some car chargers are seen as USB charger with limited amps ...
Modifying the cable or using another one makes phone believe it's on AC charger
and gets more amps to charge.

I'm aware of it, and i was about to make the change before i noticed the Green-Reg led.
how will it help to increase the Amp if the phone stop charging anyway ?

Chura said:
I'm aware of it, and i was about to make the change before i noticed the Green-Reg led.
how will it help to increase the Amp if the phone stop charging anyway ?
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Red-green led is battery over heat, meaning your battery was at or above 48c. If you're rooted you can limit your phone too two cores which should help keep temps down.
If not then you will have to take breaks from GPS till its sorted by software update. I assume its using more Cpu/cores then needed, only a theory.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Thats basic design, how come HTC didnt get it tested ?!
worth openeing a ticket about it ?

i really hate to say this, but its deal breaker for me.
Does anyone know if the SGS3 have heat issue's also ?
EDIT: Opened ticket with HTC, hopefully for good news with some firmware upgrade or something.

charging issue

hi, i hav been facing charging prob, my does not charge whn its remain on rather drains batt more quick but it was charging whn i turn it off but slow. i thought its the issue of sense 5 so i degrade to sense 4+ viper 3.8 but it got worse. idrained my batt and than put to wall charge for whole night but the charging led kept blinking and than it disappeared than again i unpluged and plug the cable to phn than it starts blinking and than again blinking of led disappeared. i thought it will take time to become stable so i left it charge for whole night. in the morning led was disappeared and i tried to turning phn on but it did not respond. than i plug it to pc and it started blinking without disappearing of led. i left it for the whole day to charge but the led didnt turned to green due curiosity i turned phn on and batt lvl showed 20% ......so plzz any 1 tell me wht can be the solution of the problem plzzzzzzzz:crying::crying::crying:

You probably have a dead battery...Someone who has seen this problem before could confirm.
The way you write is pretty hard to read, so you might wait a while until someone does confirm this .

1. Never charge the phone for the whole night.
2. I had the same problem. I changed my charger and now, it is perfectly charging. Try it.

Anish Shah said:
1. Never charge the phone for the whole night.
2. I had the same problem. I changed my charger and now, it is perfectly charging. Try it.
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thanx for suggestion, how much do i hav to pay for a new charger??

But you said you left it to charge via USB cable on your PC and it didn't charge properly. If you used the same USB cable with the charger, then the cable might be to blame. You should try a friends cable before buying a new charger.
If the charger does not work with the same USB cable you used to connect to the PC, your battery is most probably dead.

Anish Shah said:
1. Never charge the phone for the whole night.
2. I had the same problem. I changed my charger and now, it is perfectly charging. Try it.
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Charging all night isn't an issue.
The battery will charge to 100% then drop to 95% and back up, will cause no damage.
Also smaller and often charges are better for the battery as it slows the formation of crystals so the battery holds its capacity longer.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app

unikulkiss said:
But you said you left it to charge via USB cable on your PC and it didn't charge properly. If you used the same USB cable with the charger, then the cable might be to blame. You should try a friends cable before buying a new charger.
If the charger does not work with the same USB cable you used to connect to the PC, your battery is most probably dead.
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using different cable phn is getting charge but the charging speed is very slow, in 6 hrs it has charged only 64% and dont know wht to blame batt or charger???

solidsnakecod4 said:
using different cable phn is getting charge but the charging speed is very slow, in 6 hrs it has charged only 64% and dont know wht to blame batt or charger???
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If you have used 2 different cables to charge and none worked properly, that is probably too big of a coincidence. Your phone has something broken; it's either the battery or the charging circuit in the phone. You should take it to a specialized phone service to see what's wrong. They will also try charging it before disassembling, and if there's nothing wrong with the phone, they probably won't even charge you anything.
If indeed they have to disassemble it, you should ask them if there will be any visible differences once they assemble is back. I had a cracked digitizer on my old One X and took it to service and replaced the display+digitizer(they come together) and, although the screen was new, it did not fit as snugly as before, so you could see light leaking out the side margins of the display.
They probably had many of these phones under repair and should know if this will be the case with your phone.

unikulkiss said:
If you have used 2 different cables to charge and none worked properly, that is probably too big of a coincidence. Your phone has something broken; it's either the battery or the charging circuit in the phone. You should take it to a specialized phone service to see what's wrong. They will also try charging it before disassembling, and if there's nothing wrong with the phone, they probably won't even charge you anything.
If indeed they have to disassemble it, you should ask them if there will be any visible differences once they assemble is back. I had a cracked digitizer on my old One X and took it to service and replaced the display+digitizer(they come together) and, although the screen was new, it did not fit as snugly as before, so you could see light leaking out the side margins of the display.
They probably had many of these phones under repair and should know if this will be the case with your phone.
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thnx bro, my phn is fully charged now but ill be visiting service center..

You can use/try every USB charger and cable you have in your house, I also charge my HOX with my iPad charger (only different cable ) no porblem at all. And it's no problem to charge your phone the whole night.

Xperia Play red light

Hi,
yesterday I bought a used R800i, the seller said I just need to charge the Battery. So back at home i plugged it to a charger an the LED near the power button startet blinking. First I thought it´s not a big deal but after a couple of hours it was clear that this is not alrigt. Even if i remove the battery the red light keeps blinking continuous (not 3 times or something similar, just every second once). I don´t know if it´s a software or hardware bug but could you help me to get it fixed?
best Regards
Lukas

It could be empty battery (but voltage level is not high enough to start charging).
Check with flashtool can you enter flash mode or fastboot mode (if you can, then it's probably empty battery)
If you can, check voltage level of battery with voltmeter.
It can be that motherboard is dead, but to be sure, you must know what is voltage level of battery.
For now, try leaving it charging, it might take some time (few hours or more) to actually start charging...
Sent from my R800i using XDA Free mobile app

Over USB i only get unkown device, but USB with the Test Point works, measuring the Batter was 0 Volts but charging over hours didn´t help

Lukas94 said:
Over USB i only get unkown device, but USB with the Test Point works, measuring the Batter was 0 Volts but charging over hours didn´t help
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If battery have 0 volts then it's dead and (most likely) can't be charged anymore. You need new battery, so you can know is motherboard is working or not.
But that is just my opinion, and i could be wrong...
Maybe to try and charge battery from external source of 5V power , easiest way is cut some usb cable or take two wires from PC's molex connector (red is +5V, black is GND) and charge it for shortly (about 30sec-1min) and measure does it have at least 3.2V. Repeat short charging untill it does. If it stay on 0V then is dead for sure.

I was really able to charge the battery over a cut USB cable. I got it to boot until lookscreen (digitizer does not response) but then the battery turned hot and the Xperia shut down. I ordered now a new battery then it should work again

Lukas94 said:
I was really able to charge the battery over a cut USB cable. I got it to boot until lookscreen (digitizer does not response) but then the battery turned hot and the Xperia shut down. I ordered now a new battery then it should work again
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Digitizer not working could be faulty slider-flex cable or simply software error due overheating. You'll know with new battery...

Flex Cable looks like this, should I get a new one?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mixy0lczvb3hb3c/IMG_20140912_201712.jpg?dl=0

Lukas94 said:
Flex Cable looks like this, should I get a new one?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mixy0lczvb3hb3c/IMG_20140912_201712.jpg?dl=0
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Yes, that's slider flex cable.
But wait untill you get new battery. Then you'll know does it have more problems or it is working normally

Sad News, today I got the new battery and i was even able to boot up the phone, but like the last time i was able to boot it up the battery and the mainboard got hot. I think the loading circuit is broken. So there are two options 1. buy a external charger for the batterie or 2. sell the phone as rarely used on ebay
No really I´m selling it, even if i get a charger theres also the problem with the not working digitzer. Thanks for your Help but this is ways to big for me.
Regards Lukas

Lukas94 said:
Sad News, today I got the new battery and i was even able to boot up the phone, but like the last time i was able to boot it up the battery and the mainboard got hot. I think the loading circuit is broken. So there are two options 1. buy a external charger for the batterie or 2. sell the phone as rarely used on ebay
No really I´m selling it, even if i get a charger theres also the problem with the not working digitzer. Thanks for your Help but this is ways to big for me.
Regards Lukas
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Sorry to hear that. Obviously problem is much bigger and hard to tell what is wrong without some proffesional look into it (lot of reasons for phone to get hot by itself - there is short circuit somewhere and that's why it's draing battery fast and causing overheating). I don't think external charger will solve problems.
Anyway, good luck :good: