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All... I will be staring development of a D-Pad SIP for free release on this board in the next week... I will release as soon as I have something that is functional. Here are the initial features... please use this space to suggest others...
Four (Top,bottom,right left) buttons plus optional center
Special zone button for switching to user defined standard keyboard
D-SIP Toggled via any assignable button sequence (will play well with apps like Mobile Magic)
user definable gestures support
I will add accepted features to this list above with a 'Phase' (e.g. planned for release 1,2 or eventually)
Blessings one and all -- My Christmas gift to you
abeery said:
All... I will be staring development of a D-Pad SIP for free release on this board in the next week... I will release as soon as I have something that is functional. Here are the initial features... please use this space to suggest others...
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Blessings one and all -- My Christmas gift to you
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That seems to be a very nice Christmas gift! You will make many users of Touch HD very happy. Thanks for your effort.
One suggestion:
If possible I would like to get continuous signal and user defined repeat rate as well as user defined delay until repetition begins (just like hardware dpad can be calibrated via settings).
Thanks in advance.
Hmm, it will be hard to enable it in applications wich doesnt support SIP's such as games
Maybe it is possible to run a application in a "640x480"px Frame and to use the 160pixel at the bottom for a D-Pad...
Would be nics to add in a rotation button, I don't like how gsen and gyrator mess up my screen when I don't want it to. Also Might come in handy a clear 4 way pad to be use ingame, left or right of the screen, maybe that is a little too much to ask for?
Koffein Schluck said:
Hmm, it will be hard to enable it in applications wich doesnt support SIP's such as games
Maybe it is possible to run a application in a "640x480"px Frame and to use the 160pixel at the bottom for a D-Pad...
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My hope is to add a option to force a 640x480 resolution for "configured" applications and then use the freed 160px for the D-Pad... in non-configured apps it would function like any other SIP. Still researching my approach
consider adding the buttons for Cut Copy and Paste
sounds like a great idea! hope it works
The 2 hardware keys (left and right) for the selection of the soft menus are a must!
I am a bit confused maybe due to lack of my knowledge of exactly what configuration this new SIP will carry. My confusion is because if you happen to see the Cootek TouchPal it already has a tab which gives you navigation options such as top, bottom, left, Right, select, cut and copy.
How is your SIP going to be different from TouchPal.
Regards
srmz said:
I am a bit confused maybe due to lack of my knowledge of exactly what configuration this new SIP will carry. My confusion is because if you happen to see the Cootek TouchPal it already has a tab which gives you navigation options such as top, bottom, left, Right, select, cut and copy.
How is your SIP going to be different from TouchPal.
Regards
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I guess the goal of this SIP is to be available in all applications (e.g. games) that usually depend on some hardware buttons to be playable and not just the ones that activate a SIP for input by default like SMS, Email etc.
One suggestion would be to have 8 directions on the virtual pad. On a real dpad you can press 2 directions simultaneously (useful in games) however the resistive screen means that there would only be one key press at a time.
Sorry for my ignorance...i am very new to WinMo phone.
Can anyone tell me what is SIP and how it is going to work?
By the way there is a software called AEBplus which can configured the hardware Vol up/down for HD, is it going to be similiar?
razorblader said:
I guess the goal of this SIP is to be available in all applications (e.g. games)
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As the most games I know use their own keyboard implementation, a SIP won't work for them. SIP will just for most applications, rather the ones, where you see the "keyboard icon" in the bottom, where you can change the keyboard and make some settings.
Looking forward to it
I think a good starting point could be to create a full screen application (a sort of container) with a sidebar implementing the Dpad that emulates an hardware pad + some buttons and a 'window' 640x480px where other applications can run.
In this mode it should be possible to generate the standard Windows messages when a soft-key is hit so that the windowed application could be fooled thinking that the user is acting on a true Dpad/key.
Bye
So it will work with for example pocket gba emulator ?
Wolfenzi said:
So it will work with for example pocket gba emulator ?
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Something like this allready exist, google MorphGear
it will work with PPC Games better than GBA
any news on this project?
Same question here. I am waiting for this as the most important thing for Touch HD on this forum. I want arrow keys in my age of empires to move map
By the way : If you can, you should do that virtual pad fully configurable, like morphgear has (text file with functions and color numbers and bmp picture with those colors on certain places + copy of that but in colors that will be displayed)
I'm still experimenting with various approaches... unfortunately it seems like the most viable approach will involve the four softkeys at the bottom of the device... everything else I try only works when I can force a SIP to be present and unfortunately it seems that the times I want a D-Pad SIP the most are the apps that make this difficult... BTW... if anyone has a code sample for reassigning the HomeKey send me a PM please. For now all I can say is please continue to have patience... I'm still working on making a solution available
I use XPERIA and I need numeric keyboard. I didn't find it, but I wrote it. It's free.
Unlike many software input methods Phone Keypad covers large screen area
and has keys that are large enough to be typed with finger-tips, not with
a stylus. It is very handy for entering numbers. Phone Keypad also features
a close interaction with other Pocket PC programs. It runs as an input method
in Soft Input Panel (SIP), Pocket PC native technique for entering text.
I can be safely removed. Simple uninstall, without restart.
Future plans:
Your suggestions welcome.
Screenshot portrait and landscape is attached. These bitmaps is used as keyboard layout and may be changed, if you create any better.
Sounds nice, but do you have any screenshot of it?
Screenshots
yeah, screenshits will be great. just to know what were installing, because i'm tires of installing things that replace the original stuff, and have to hard reset to get back.
arci01 said:
I use XPERIA and I need numeric keyboard. I didn't find it, but I wrote it. It's free.
Unlike many software input methods Phone Keypad covers large screen area
and has keys that are large enough to be typed with finger-tips, not with
a stylus. It is very handy for entering numbers. Phone Keypad also features
a close interaction with other Pocket PC programs. It runs as an input method
in Soft Input Panel (SIP), Pocket PC native technique for entering text.
Future plans:
Your suggestions welcome.
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Oh, this is just awesome! Exactly what I made a thread about a week ago, although no one bothered to answer me. I'll install in a few minutes.
Suggestion: I'm swedish, and in the swedish language the letters å, ä and ö features prominently. Is it possible to map this to get swedish letters too, like on swedish cell phones? Å and Ä appears when you press the number 2, since it's the button used for the letter A, because Å and Ä carries resemblance to A. With Ö, it's mapped to appear at number 6, since it's similar to an O. Please consider this
screenie please
this very good idea.and it looks perfect.could you please put english letters as well?if you can make it like nokia keypad that would be lovely.good work mate.thanks.
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Be careful...
Amazing idea Arci01, but please let me make some positive suggestions:
1- add some screenshots, I recommend "cap sure": simple, free and small screen capturing app
2- you can improve the thread's title description following XDA-DEVS rules: [UTIL][10 APR 09] Phone (numeric only) Keypad of WVGA screens
This way more users will be aware (and interested) of thread contents
You can edit the thread's title by clicking "edit" (lower right corner) and then clicking "go advanced"
I use tinypic.com to upload screenshots taken with "cap sure", then I link them in my posts
Hope my 2 cents help
And again: congrats for your great contribution to the community
This SIP keyboard don't replace any installed software and can be safely removed. Simple uninstall it.
nice, very nice indeed..
I Don't suppose you want to carry on and create a full KB? it looks really good..
@arci01
Excellent work - and it is NOT black !!
I think it's good to have like this software.
quick question before i try this, does this mess up the SIP? (au button, word suggestions and such)
Looking good anyway
Hi
All some devices such as the MEGA, TOPAZ LEO and Whitestone.. dont have a D PAD...
is it possible to develop a SIP based DPAD that is in the Ezinput.. like you know just extract just that bit
see screen shot below
bump!!!!!!!
Yeah, I would like that idea, a nice virtual DPAD that's built into the input menus. Yum yum.
Virtual Dpad
It's really truly able to have a multi-touch keyboard on a resistive screen WinMo!!
it may takes some time.but then how many people would still use Windows Phone classic(except HD2)?!
MulkeyTouch = MultiTouch Key(board)
for more introduces pls read the following Notice.
Requirements
WVGA/VGA resolution[actually the technology works for all resistive screen-devices]
.NET CF 3.5 or higher
How it comes true?
read my first thread:
Multi 2.0 - Show and Explain Dual-Touch Technology On Resistive Screens
Here're some pictures(I've tried making a demo video.but it doesn't seem good.these are the shots of the video)
It's a WP7-style keyboard.It hasn't been finished.it can be used to input letters only..no numbers or symbols but "." and ","
[I used a stylus just to let you see more clearly.]And it proves that the screen is resistive.(It's TP2)
Notice
multi-touch keyboard
= dual-touch keyboard
= you can hold Shift key and press any letters' key at the same time to input capital letters
but you can't press two letters' key at the same time.it doesn't makes sense.
as my limited ability,i'm not able to write a real keyboard (in Native code.)
this is an 'app-in' keyboard..
(the keyboard have to run in the app.you can't use it to input texts to any other textboxes outside the app.)
But it shows the capability of having a multi-touch keyboard on resistive screen.
and of course it can be developed as a real system keyboard.
it doesn't work very well.the second key it detects may not the key you press especially when the key is far from the Shift key(such as P,O,I,L,K)..
but it's possible to add a function to modify the position values so that it can detect properly.
so i make another app called Modifine.(means to "modify" something to make it "fine")
but the modified result doesn't seem very good yet-.-!!...
Much better now..
Download
The NEW file MulKeyTouch 1.0 - (W)VGA.7z works for WVGA and VGA resolutions!
It has only one .exe file.but you'd better extract it to any one directory before run it.
cuz it'll create an Modifine.txt file on the directory to enable Modifine mod.
Please read the next post about how to use.
How to use it.
There are 4 ways to input captial letters:
[Normal way]Input 1 captial letters.Just press the "Shift" key then click any letter's key.
[Normal way]Input ≥1 captial letters.Click the "Shift" key twice then you can keep inputing captial letters
[Quick way]Input 1 captial letters.Hold the "Shift" key then move to any letter's key.It's a better way to input letters that near the "Shift" key such as "Z","A","Q","X",etc.
[Quick dual-touch way]Input ≥1 captial letters.Hold the "Shift" key and press any letter's key.
About Modifine
Does the second key it detects is not the key you are pressing on?
In particular the keys far from Shift key such as "P","O","L"
Then you may have to modify the position it gets.
Different screen may has its own dual-touch ability.
So you'll have modified values set by yourself.
1.Click "Modifine" button.
2.Click "Start Modifine!" button.
3.Hold the central of the "Shift" key.
4.Immediately draw follow the green line from lower left corner to top right corner.
5.Click "Back" button.
6.Enable the Modifine mode by click the "Smile" key(it's on the lower left corner of MKT keyboard.NOT the "Modifine" form's keyboard.)
7.Test it by input captial letters in the [Quick dual-touch way]
A much better way to see where the modified position go:
Check the "Show touch points" checkbox on Modifine form.
You can see two points while you input captial letters that are near the top right corner.
Red Point - original detected touch point
Green Point - modified point
I know there's a bug that the new points come but old points were not cleared.as i think you can find out the latest points.and for better running speed.i'm not going to fix it now.
PS.the app's icon(in 32x32 size) writes "没课逃~" which means "No classes to be skipped" in Chinese.
and Chinese pinyin of the three characters is "Mei Ke Tao",whose shortened (is MKT) is the same as MulKeyTouch's.
I use it to commemorate my dropping out of school~
Sorry for my poor English.
looks promising. keep up the good work
Woah! this is Awesome.. but i use Android on my HD2...whatever..
YOU GET A COOKIE! (Thanks)
Dude keep up the Awesome work..
now thank me for thanking your a** x'P
nice one bro, keep it up!
plz release for qvga.
thanks!
I believe many members will stay on WM for a while
Thanks!
It seems that you like WP7 keyboard
Gorgeous work. I'll look on it right away!
So, unfortunately, I cannot test the keyboard properly because I'm running VGA device (Diamond) and the textbox overlays the keyboard from the top. Maybe you can set Anchor property to TextBox? or there maybe is another way to change the textbox size dynamically?
otherwise it looks neat
If you need any help in implement the Multitouch for the HD2, write me a message
PaulosCZ said:
So, unfortunately, I cannot test the keyboard properly because I'm running VGA device (Diamond) and the textbox overlays the keyboard from the top. Maybe you can set Anchor property to TextBox? or there maybe is another way to change the textbox size dynamically?
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thx for ur feedback!
MulKeyTouch 1.0 - (W)VGA.7z is released.it works for WVGA and VGA resolutions.
deepv84 said:
plz release for qvga.
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sorry.may not..
thx all~
支持中国朋友~呵呵~非常感谢~
Hi,
I have a HTC TILT 2, (AT&T) Rhodium, with android last version FRX 07
How can I get accent characters (Spanish) on the physic keyboard, á, é, í, ó, ú, ñ, ??? etc.
Thanks,
Doesn't appear to be a layout for Spanish:
physkeyboard=rhod100_de
physkeyboard=rhod100_fr
physkeyboard=rhod100_it
physkeyboard=rhod100_uk
physkeyboard=rhod100_nordic
Perhaps IT would work? That's for RHOD100's tho, If you have a RHOD300, how does it have special characters? I thought all the ATT Tilt2's had US keyboards...?
Feel free to make one and make a merge request against the rootfs.
arrrghhh : Thanks for your fast answer,
My rhodium has a US keyboard, and was buy in US, I checked an is a RHOD300, but I need write on Spanish.
I want to keep the same keyboard layout, but get the accented characters with some of this option: double pulse, pulse length -long, or a key combination or other. Par example, on Windows Mobile 6.5 (Rom Energy) I use the app “rhodium Keyboard Controller GSM/CDMA v1.4” to remap the keyboard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
I mean, i get the accent characters by long press
a + long press = á,
n +long press= ñ
I will try the Italian (maybe is similar but doesn’t have same accents, diacritics, specially “ á “ and “ ñ ” ) option but my technical knowledge (and my English) is limited, so your advice is welcome
Thanks
CAPITAN PLANETA said:
arrrghhh : Thanks for your fast answer,
My rhodium has a US keyboard, and was buy in US, I checked an is a RHOD300, but I need write on Spanish.
I want to keep the same keyboard layout, but get the accented characters with some of this option: double pulse, pulse length -long, or a key combination or other. Par example, on Windows Mobile 6.5 (Rom Energy) I use the app “rhodium Keyboard Controller GSM/CDMA v1.4” to remap the keyboard http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
I mean, i get the accent characters by long press
a + long press = á,
n +long press= ñ
I will try the Italian (maybe is similar but doesn’t have same accents, diacritics, specially “ á “ and “ ñ ” ) option but my technical knowledge (and my English) is limited, so your advice is welcome
Thanks
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Oh.
I don't know how this would be done... I would think Android has some native-way of remapping keys... But I'm not aware of any way how. Never looked into it.
In the short term, why not just use the soft keyboard?
Edit - did a little bit of googling and found this. Not ideal, I haven't found an app to do it yet.
Edit 2 - I can't find an app for the life of me. These might help tho.
http://jahrome.free.fr/index.php/keyboard-mapping-android-htc-desire?lang=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=468703