Feel free to beat me to death with my own mouse if this Q was already obviously answered somewhere, but I have searched these forums and failed to find a definitive answer on the matter....
I downloaded the WM6 beta ROM (RUU_Excalibur_TMO_US_1.20.531.1_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Test), and have CID unlocked my device via Gsmliberty.com. My question is...do I need to install the updated bootloader (RUU_Excalibur_SPL-1.11_UpgradeOnly.exe) on my S620, or is this bootloader only necessary for the Dash?
I want to make certain I am doing this right, in fear of bricking my device.
Answers?
if your bootloader is wrong the upgrade will give you an error message and restart your phone
The S620 is running bootloader 1.11.405.4
Just for kicks I ran the bootloader upgrade (which actually downgrades to lower version) and I got a (206)Connection Error.
I'm pretty sure you do need it. Like stated above, if you get an error when you try the upgrade, the answer is YES!!
You'll definitely need it if you try to go back...
-Mc
But how can I install the RUU_Excalibur_SPL-1.11_UpgradeOnly.exe bootloader? When I attempt do so I get the Connection Error. I launch the setup wizard, my Screen gets the rainbow bar with the word USB appearing at the bottom. At that point the installer seems to hang or timeout and I get that blasted connection error. Even the device appears stuck and I have to remove the battery to bring it back to a state of consciousness.
Am i doing something wrong?
you really should read the available info regarding this subject before you attempt to do something like this. if you read the thread about 13 posts down regarding flashing a cosmo you will see how to do the upgrade. it worked for me on my s620. i downloaded the files that the person giving the instructions provided a link to instead of editing my own files.
Hey..
I think in the moment there are many guys, out there, included me, that share the same problem: all probably unlocked their Dash's, Mail's or whatever using anykind of unlocking method (me, imei-check).
I am using a German MDA Mail, i needed to unlock it, in order to use it with my phone carrier apparently.
Now, the version of my phone is somewhat 1.18, and I want to update it to the WM6, like many others too. Both ways; SPL 1.11 and trying the update itself onyl lead to the same outcome : Invalid vendor/model id !
Many often say: yea, look in the CID unlock thread...well i did, very often, but there is no real solution to that problem, since basically, my Dash is unlocked, and presumably also CID unlocked since i got that from imei-check, which i think is a pioneer in that sector.
So, after all, what can we do!? Is it possible to still trying update that phone?
Hope we can find a solution, cuz i dun feel i am the only guy who has that problem.
I may have the same problem. Are you trying to unlock on Vista or XP?
I got it unlocked on XP, it worked fine i got to admit, no problems at all, my phone now seems to be unlocked and it works with another phone carrier, apart from T-Mo, which should be an indication FOR the CID unlock...
I dont think it is important to App unlock the Mail as well, cuz imei-check said it would be included...soo, would it be reasonable to ask imei-check, or does somebody else have an opinion about that?
I just upgraded to WM6. Here's what I did.
Unlocked it from imei-check. Ran SPL Upgrader. It gave me a Vendor ID being incorrect error.
Then I ran the WM6 upgrader from HTC. It upgraded and rebooted.
Now my phone is running WM6 and everything is fine.
Ha? you serious, thats very cool...well i tried it again with the spl upgrader, he went to 100%, aborted then with an invalid model error...then ran the upgrade afterwards, still didnt work... what about the version, did u take the German or the English one!?
Aaaargh, i am about to freak out..why doesnt it work, both SPL and the WM6 Upgrade give Invalid model errors, before i at least got a invalid vendor id, but not even that anymore...HELP...did imei-checks unlock didnt really work or what...
Yeah, I am very serious. I am using WM6 right now. I have a Dopod C720w.
Ok, here's what I did.
Unlocked through IMEI-check's software.
After that, I ran the SPL Upgrader. It went to 100% then gave me an Invalid Vendor ID error. I exited from there and then ran the HTC WM6 upgrade rom program. That started and slowly went to 100%. It said it had finished its job, so I removed my phone from the cable.
Then I proceeded to totally freak out because my phone looked like it was stuck at the Windows Mobile loading screen. I waited and after a long time, the rom initialised and ran through its first boot sequence.
Now its working perfectly and everything feels a bit faster.
If you went through the exact same steps, then I am not sure what your problem might be. Sorry. To tell you the truth, I am a completely noob at this who just did random steps and was lucky enough for it to work
P.S. I used the WWE (English) version, as I can't read German. I downloaded it off a rapidshare link posted in the big thread about HTC's rom release.
Well, i might not have much more skill either, but it is still quite worrying, is there maybe a difference between model and vendor id !? i am not quite sure what to try anymore, i remember yesterday, that i had a wrong vendor id as well, but today i just always got invalid model ids...very weird...well i will continue trying..do u remember what ur MDA mail version was before u updated it..sth like...1.18 !? by the way, which SPL upgrader are u using?
I am not using a MDA Mail. It's a Dopod c720w, same hardware, different branding.
This is the SPL Upgrader I used:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/smartphones/Excalibur/RUU_Excalibur_SPL-1.11_UpgradeOnly.exe
Try with that. It should work.
I think my version before upgrading was 1.15 something.
Nah, i think its the same SPL Upgrader (same size...) but i just dont get the idea why it doesnt work, some experienced upgrader here who can explain us the process?!?! I am not sure whether a reset of all settings would do a thing?! geez feel quite helpless in the moment^^
I had the same problem
but the only thing I did when got those problems was leaving my Vista based laptop and try with an XP based, downloaded the activesync, connected my htc, installed the SPL (downgrade) and then the WM6 WWE ROM, oh, I remember, first I installed the german version by mistake, so I had to repeat the process with the SPL before applying the correct ROM again.
When I was unlocking my HTC, I had some problems on the vista system, and I deactivated the antivirus... Could that be related?
Good Luck!!!
You haven't answered as to whether you're using XP or Vista. I ran into the same issues trying to do the SPL and ROM updates via Vista, when I tried it on my XP system -- both worked without errors.
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Nah, i think its the same SPL Upgrader (same size...) but i just dont get the idea why it doesnt work, some experienced upgrader here who can explain us the process?!?! I am not sure whether a reset of all settings would do a thing?! geez feel quite helpless in the moment^^
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Yeah, after hearing so much about Vista, I used my XP system to update the rom. Worked fine.
i LOVE imei-check, i wrote them an email a moment ago to ask them for support, they replied me after 10 minutes with a full strategy how to encounter the problem, fabulous support i gotta admit, here's what they said:
Hello,
It sounds like you try to make a CROSS-MODEL-ID update (e.g. WiFi chip missing T-Mobile ROM on a WiFi enabled HTC device).
EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. You only have to use SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS in order to make a CROSS-MODEL-ID update:
*If you REALLY do it EXACT step by step like described you will have no problems*
Tools you need:
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- HexWorkshop from http://www.bpsoft.com/downloads/
- the ROM of your choice
- Winzip or Winrar
- a valid UNL file for YOUR phone
Preparation:
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a) install HexWorkshop and Winzip or Winrar on your pc
b) in explorer on pc, RIGHT click on the ROM of your choice and use: "Extract files to folder ..." from conext menu Now it will unpack all the files
c) in the new folder you will have ONE file like "HRUU_signed.NBH" (*.NBH) RIGHT click on the .NBH file and use: "Hex Edit with Hex Workshop" from context menu
d) You'll see on the 5th row EXCA20000 ==> !!! make it EXCA***** (5 stars) and save the file
e) Now RIGHT click on ROMUpdateUtility.exe and use:
"Hex Edit with Hex Workshop" from conext menu Search for word
"BsaD5SeoA" (without quotes, case sensitive)
You'll find it around address 0x3FC6C
==> replace "BsaD5SeoA" with "IMEICHECK" (without quotes) and save the file
ROM-Update:
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1) take SIM card and SD card OUT of the phone
2) Connect the phone running windows ce to the pc (normal way).
3) Completely Unlock your phone using our unlocker <== REALLY IMPORTANT
4) After phone is unlocked run unlocker (again) BUT when the unlocker ask for UNL file, remove the USB cable from the phone THEN press "Cancel" on the unlocker select file window (unlocker will close on PC). NOTE: The screen on the device will not show something usefull when in this mode. Most probably it is complete WHITE. !!THIS IS NORMAL!! Don't touch phone, let it like it is!
5) After you closed the unlocker, attach usb cable again (phone has still white screen)
6) start (the modified) ROMUpdateUtility.exe
7) when update finished and device started you will get a message:
"Data Crashed, contact service provider" (!NO PANIC!)
==> Simply fix this problem by running the unlocker again and this time select the key file normal way (full unlock process again).
In case you have problems please indicate the step number/letter which is not clear/not working for you.
*If you REALLY do it EXACT step by step like described you will have no problems*
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P.S., would be a good idea to post this as a sticky, since it really explains how to update a original HTC rom on such wifi lacking Excalibur versions like the MDA Mail,
greets and good night
Did you try to email imei-check?
I know that exactly the same problem occurred when the T-Mo WM6 came out.
Imei-check had sent back their customers who were not able to upgrade a procedure how to modify their unlocker with a hex editor to change the model ID.
BTW: Model ID: there are two different models - EXCA100 and EXCA200 - take a look under your battery - german XDA Cosmo for example is EXCA200 (there the SPL seems not to work)
The other thing is the vendor ID. This seems to be solved by pof's Upgrade SPL 1.11
So simply try to write to imei-check and say that your unlock does not work - in the past they were very customer friendly - hope this didn't change meanwhile
EDIT: OK - vivid was a little bit faster - next time I should refresh the thread before I answer...
FYI !!
saw some post where people was being impatient during the upgrading process and completely abort the process ...etc
you are supposed to be at the logo screen for a period of time ... it doesn't meant it's hanged ... be patience !
just a note
Patience is the key...
Hm, OK, I did it... I bought the fracking UNL, took me one hour to figure how to get rid of the protection (security + antivirus) in my laptop that did not allow me to run the unlocking app. Finally, I got it.
First time I flash the ROM it did not work. I tried using first the SPL, and it worked nicely. After that, I could flash the ROM. Be patient, it takes some minutes to reboot, and it looks like is freezed, but not... wait!
Can´t see much difference from WM5, but I noticed a best performance in wifi connection. Now I´m fracking installing all the goodies I had before... bluetooth keyboard is not working... I will work it out a little bit.
Just in case, if someone wants the UNL for research... PM me.
I am glad it all worked out for you. Didn't know that the MDA Mail came without Wifi.
Wow, I must say, I am glad I used Imei-Check's service as well. That was an extremely helpful reply they sent you. Not seen many companies who do that.
That's exactly what i thought
Maybe we should write them a thankyou email for all their great help in name of the whole xda-developers community what u think
Anyhow, can somebody explain me real quick what should be definitely be installed to WM6?
@PhoenixAG: yeaa stupid T-Mobile GER...they didnt take away the wifi chip on the S710 or the newer ones, have no idea why they did it to the Excalibur then..
It would be a good idea to stick this solution.
I think many users in this forum have exactly the same problem in doing a cross model ID update. You can see Excalibur devices from many countries and carriers here.
I have a T-Mobile MDA Mail too which lacks the Wi-Fi and had to do the same steps after cid-unlocking it through imeicheck.
You have to do it really step by step. I had problems in doing it out of my memory for the new HTC ROM and wondered why it failed. But going through it step by step really works EVERY time I did it and thats now the third time.
First was installing T-Mobile Dash WM6 ROM, second the Russian HTC ROM and now finally the German HTC WM6 ROM.
Hi guys I am sorry if I am posting this in the wrong forum or if this has already been asked elsewhere.
My universal was running great all my apps on wm5 lovely I even just bought copilot for it and that worked great also! I then found the HTC home feature that displays on your today screen I installed this on wm5 and it worked but not very well so I decided to flash my universal with the wm6 rom customized to run on my system with 64mb ram. I think the biggest mistake I made was trying to do this under windows vista as the pc crashed leaving my Universal saying Serial (or USB if connected to pc) and displaying v2.0.1 at bottom. I have tried to recover the device using the methods on the wiki but the device is recognised by the pc as a mobile pocket PC and is refusing to allow me to update the driver so I cannot install the usb modem driver for vista! I am going to my brothers this evening and will try to recover again on an XP system I hope it work I have only had my universal for 4 days! I had aq smilar experience with my SPC C600 when I first got that - I love fidling thats my problem!!! - One last thing to point out is that I do not know it thte device if fully unlocked, I presume as it has gone to the stage of stuck on bootloader it must be?!? Any positive words of encouragement welcome!
Regards
Gene
Anyone! lol I know this was only posted an hour ago - I guess I am stuck in bootlader is that correct?
Hi Guys I have managed to ressurect my universal it was stuck in bootloader! I am going to attepmt to reflash my device with a win moble 6 rom, are there any recommendations for the Universal mine was shipped as the 02 Xda Exec, I appreciate you will probably tell me that I just to try one and see if it works but I would rather use a rom which has been tested as working as stable, I have downloaded the wm6 rom which was "adaptedK for a universal equipped with only 64mb of ram Has anyone used this rom? I also need to totally unlock this device to ensure a happy upgrade, But the link on here for the tool (in the wiki also) seem to be dead I hope one of you can point me in the right direction The main reason I want to upgrade to WM6 is so I can use the HTC home plugin. I know this is available for WM5 but it does not display correctly on my device it appears squashed up?? If I can correct this under WM5 then I see no need to upgrade to WM6?
Many Thanks for your help
Gene.
just use uni_exitbootloader.exe
2klik on your pc just try
Hey guyss I just came across the site today I know very limited about cell phone editing but became intrigued by the 6.1 hack for my dash i just baught 2 days ago.
Now it came with 6 but i would like to update to 6.1 but have 0 knowledge of doing so. My phone is still locked i downloaded these files: uspl (folder), auto, rapitool, enter bootloader, ruu get info, ruuresource, rom update utitlty, ruu signed...can anyone please tell me in what order and what to do with these files...its a brand new phone so i dindt wanna go messing it up and bricking it without some info. so please help it'd be much appreacited! Thanks
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Hey guyss I just came across the site today I know very limited about cell phone editing but became intrigued by the 6.1 hack for my dash i just baught 2 days ago.
Now it came with 6 but i would like to update to 6.1 but have 0 knowledge of doing so. My phone is still locked i downloaded these files: uspl (folder), auto, rapitool, enter bootloader, ruu get info, ruuresource, rom update utitlty, ruu signed...can anyone please tell me in what order and what to do with these files...its a brand new phone so i dindt wanna go messing it up and bricking it without some info. so please help it'd be much appreacited! Thanks
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FYI this is not an ASAP question. relax
There are plenty of links in here telling you how to install 6.1, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374890
If 6 is installed....it's very simple.
Download the ROM 6.1 and on your desktop run it.
Follow the dirextions in the command prompt box and make sure your memory card is OUT and battery is fully charged prior to updating.
there are no other files to run except 6.1 rom
danger danger. Do some reading in the Kavana thread to familurize yourself with the procedure
Hi. Trying to unlock a Universal. Put into Bootloader mode, connected by USB, ran MaUpgradeUt file and got the following " Error 150. Rom upgrade Utility error. Not designed for device". This is a V1.00 G3 unit.
Any ideas please? I thought this was the easy part of a Rom upgrade!
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Hi. Trying to unlock a Universal. Put into Bootloader mode, connected by USB, ran MaUpgradeUt file and got the following " Error 150. Rom upgrade Utility error. Not designed for device". This is a V1.00 G3 unit.
Any ideas please? I thought this was the easy part of a Rom upgrade!
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Please READ the Wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
Good luck,
Thanks but following the unlocking part of it. Error messages thread does not mention Error 150.
Thanks
Bit more info.
Utility is Device Software Update Utility - R1000 R21200
Says change from Device CE Image version
Device Ext Image version
Device Radio Image version
Change to CE Image version
Ext Image version
Radio Image version
Then I get the message - Error 150. Does not designed for your device
Please get proper Rom Upgrade and try again.
Nothing in the Wiki says about this problem. Any ideas please?
Can someone tell me what is happening please? The Wiki is fine - if it all goes right - but nothing there tells me about this. How can I be using the wrong Rom, we are only unlocking it?
Thanks
Sorry, I don't know how to help you, mine was already unlocked.
I don't understand why in the wiki procedures are referred to Wizard... If there's so much compatibility, you may try Wizard Service Tool to unlock it. It seems to work with G3 devices with 1.00 BL.
May I ask you if you tell us your steps? I have to make the same operation on a friend of mine G3 Uni, so I'll appreciate your help.
Thank you.
Hi. All I tried to run was MaUpgradeUT_noID and that's when I got the message. Tried the Service tool but I am using Windows Vista with Windows Mobile Device Centre and the phone was not recognised. Likes XP and ActiveSynch which I haven't got.
So stuck........
Doug
May I suggest you to find a way to use XP? Maybe creating a little partition and a multi-boot... I don't feel so good thinking of Vista and flashing...
Special thanks
It is nice to know there are people on here who will go the extra mile to help someone in trouble. I was having real problems with trying to unlock and flash a WM6.1 ROM but Olympia768 kindly did it for me and in double quick time.
I have now back a Universal, with WM6.1, that seems like a new machine. I absolutely love it!
Many thanks to a very kind guy.
Doug