Hey..
I think in the moment there are many guys, out there, included me, that share the same problem: all probably unlocked their Dash's, Mail's or whatever using anykind of unlocking method (me, imei-check).
I am using a German MDA Mail, i needed to unlock it, in order to use it with my phone carrier apparently.
Now, the version of my phone is somewhat 1.18, and I want to update it to the WM6, like many others too. Both ways; SPL 1.11 and trying the update itself onyl lead to the same outcome : Invalid vendor/model id !
Many often say: yea, look in the CID unlock thread...well i did, very often, but there is no real solution to that problem, since basically, my Dash is unlocked, and presumably also CID unlocked since i got that from imei-check, which i think is a pioneer in that sector.
So, after all, what can we do!? Is it possible to still trying update that phone?
Hope we can find a solution, cuz i dun feel i am the only guy who has that problem.
I may have the same problem. Are you trying to unlock on Vista or XP?
I got it unlocked on XP, it worked fine i got to admit, no problems at all, my phone now seems to be unlocked and it works with another phone carrier, apart from T-Mo, which should be an indication FOR the CID unlock...
I dont think it is important to App unlock the Mail as well, cuz imei-check said it would be included...soo, would it be reasonable to ask imei-check, or does somebody else have an opinion about that?
I just upgraded to WM6. Here's what I did.
Unlocked it from imei-check. Ran SPL Upgrader. It gave me a Vendor ID being incorrect error.
Then I ran the WM6 upgrader from HTC. It upgraded and rebooted.
Now my phone is running WM6 and everything is fine.
Ha? you serious, thats very cool...well i tried it again with the spl upgrader, he went to 100%, aborted then with an invalid model error...then ran the upgrade afterwards, still didnt work... what about the version, did u take the German or the English one!?
Aaaargh, i am about to freak out..why doesnt it work, both SPL and the WM6 Upgrade give Invalid model errors, before i at least got a invalid vendor id, but not even that anymore...HELP...did imei-checks unlock didnt really work or what...
Yeah, I am very serious. I am using WM6 right now. I have a Dopod C720w.
Ok, here's what I did.
Unlocked through IMEI-check's software.
After that, I ran the SPL Upgrader. It went to 100% then gave me an Invalid Vendor ID error. I exited from there and then ran the HTC WM6 upgrade rom program. That started and slowly went to 100%. It said it had finished its job, so I removed my phone from the cable.
Then I proceeded to totally freak out because my phone looked like it was stuck at the Windows Mobile loading screen. I waited and after a long time, the rom initialised and ran through its first boot sequence.
Now its working perfectly and everything feels a bit faster.
If you went through the exact same steps, then I am not sure what your problem might be. Sorry. To tell you the truth, I am a completely noob at this who just did random steps and was lucky enough for it to work
P.S. I used the WWE (English) version, as I can't read German. I downloaded it off a rapidshare link posted in the big thread about HTC's rom release.
Well, i might not have much more skill either, but it is still quite worrying, is there maybe a difference between model and vendor id !? i am not quite sure what to try anymore, i remember yesterday, that i had a wrong vendor id as well, but today i just always got invalid model ids...very weird...well i will continue trying..do u remember what ur MDA mail version was before u updated it..sth like...1.18 !? by the way, which SPL upgrader are u using?
I am not using a MDA Mail. It's a Dopod c720w, same hardware, different branding.
This is the SPL Upgrader I used:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/smartphones/Excalibur/RUU_Excalibur_SPL-1.11_UpgradeOnly.exe
Try with that. It should work.
I think my version before upgrading was 1.15 something.
Nah, i think its the same SPL Upgrader (same size...) but i just dont get the idea why it doesnt work, some experienced upgrader here who can explain us the process?!?! I am not sure whether a reset of all settings would do a thing?! geez feel quite helpless in the moment^^
I had the same problem
but the only thing I did when got those problems was leaving my Vista based laptop and try with an XP based, downloaded the activesync, connected my htc, installed the SPL (downgrade) and then the WM6 WWE ROM, oh, I remember, first I installed the german version by mistake, so I had to repeat the process with the SPL before applying the correct ROM again.
When I was unlocking my HTC, I had some problems on the vista system, and I deactivated the antivirus... Could that be related?
Good Luck!!!
You haven't answered as to whether you're using XP or Vista. I ran into the same issues trying to do the SPL and ROM updates via Vista, when I tried it on my XP system -- both worked without errors.
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Nah, i think its the same SPL Upgrader (same size...) but i just dont get the idea why it doesnt work, some experienced upgrader here who can explain us the process?!?! I am not sure whether a reset of all settings would do a thing?! geez feel quite helpless in the moment^^
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Yeah, after hearing so much about Vista, I used my XP system to update the rom. Worked fine.
i LOVE imei-check, i wrote them an email a moment ago to ask them for support, they replied me after 10 minutes with a full strategy how to encounter the problem, fabulous support i gotta admit, here's what they said:
Hello,
It sounds like you try to make a CROSS-MODEL-ID update (e.g. WiFi chip missing T-Mobile ROM on a WiFi enabled HTC device).
EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. You only have to use SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS in order to make a CROSS-MODEL-ID update:
*If you REALLY do it EXACT step by step like described you will have no problems*
Tools you need:
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- HexWorkshop from http://www.bpsoft.com/downloads/
- the ROM of your choice
- Winzip or Winrar
- a valid UNL file for YOUR phone
Preparation:
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a) install HexWorkshop and Winzip or Winrar on your pc
b) in explorer on pc, RIGHT click on the ROM of your choice and use: "Extract files to folder ..." from conext menu Now it will unpack all the files
c) in the new folder you will have ONE file like "HRUU_signed.NBH" (*.NBH) RIGHT click on the .NBH file and use: "Hex Edit with Hex Workshop" from context menu
d) You'll see on the 5th row EXCA20000 ==> !!! make it EXCA***** (5 stars) and save the file
e) Now RIGHT click on ROMUpdateUtility.exe and use:
"Hex Edit with Hex Workshop" from conext menu Search for word
"BsaD5SeoA" (without quotes, case sensitive)
You'll find it around address 0x3FC6C
==> replace "BsaD5SeoA" with "IMEICHECK" (without quotes) and save the file
ROM-Update:
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1) take SIM card and SD card OUT of the phone
2) Connect the phone running windows ce to the pc (normal way).
3) Completely Unlock your phone using our unlocker <== REALLY IMPORTANT
4) After phone is unlocked run unlocker (again) BUT when the unlocker ask for UNL file, remove the USB cable from the phone THEN press "Cancel" on the unlocker select file window (unlocker will close on PC). NOTE: The screen on the device will not show something usefull when in this mode. Most probably it is complete WHITE. !!THIS IS NORMAL!! Don't touch phone, let it like it is!
5) After you closed the unlocker, attach usb cable again (phone has still white screen)
6) start (the modified) ROMUpdateUtility.exe
7) when update finished and device started you will get a message:
"Data Crashed, contact service provider" (!NO PANIC!)
==> Simply fix this problem by running the unlocker again and this time select the key file normal way (full unlock process again).
In case you have problems please indicate the step number/letter which is not clear/not working for you.
*If you REALLY do it EXACT step by step like described you will have no problems*
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P.S., would be a good idea to post this as a sticky, since it really explains how to update a original HTC rom on such wifi lacking Excalibur versions like the MDA Mail,
greets and good night
Did you try to email imei-check?
I know that exactly the same problem occurred when the T-Mo WM6 came out.
Imei-check had sent back their customers who were not able to upgrade a procedure how to modify their unlocker with a hex editor to change the model ID.
BTW: Model ID: there are two different models - EXCA100 and EXCA200 - take a look under your battery - german XDA Cosmo for example is EXCA200 (there the SPL seems not to work)
The other thing is the vendor ID. This seems to be solved by pof's Upgrade SPL 1.11
So simply try to write to imei-check and say that your unlock does not work - in the past they were very customer friendly - hope this didn't change meanwhile
EDIT: OK - vivid was a little bit faster - next time I should refresh the thread before I answer...
FYI !!
saw some post where people was being impatient during the upgrading process and completely abort the process ...etc
you are supposed to be at the logo screen for a period of time ... it doesn't meant it's hanged ... be patience !
just a note
Patience is the key...
Hm, OK, I did it... I bought the fracking UNL, took me one hour to figure how to get rid of the protection (security + antivirus) in my laptop that did not allow me to run the unlocking app. Finally, I got it.
First time I flash the ROM it did not work. I tried using first the SPL, and it worked nicely. After that, I could flash the ROM. Be patient, it takes some minutes to reboot, and it looks like is freezed, but not... wait!
Can´t see much difference from WM5, but I noticed a best performance in wifi connection. Now I´m fracking installing all the goodies I had before... bluetooth keyboard is not working... I will work it out a little bit.
Just in case, if someone wants the UNL for research... PM me.
I am glad it all worked out for you. Didn't know that the MDA Mail came without Wifi.
Wow, I must say, I am glad I used Imei-Check's service as well. That was an extremely helpful reply they sent you. Not seen many companies who do that.
That's exactly what i thought
Maybe we should write them a thankyou email for all their great help in name of the whole xda-developers community what u think
Anyhow, can somebody explain me real quick what should be definitely be installed to WM6?
@PhoenixAG: yeaa stupid T-Mobile GER...they didnt take away the wifi chip on the S710 or the newer ones, have no idea why they did it to the Excalibur then..
It would be a good idea to stick this solution.
I think many users in this forum have exactly the same problem in doing a cross model ID update. You can see Excalibur devices from many countries and carriers here.
I have a T-Mobile MDA Mail too which lacks the Wi-Fi and had to do the same steps after cid-unlocking it through imeicheck.
You have to do it really step by step. I had problems in doing it out of my memory for the new HTC ROM and wondered why it failed. But going through it step by step really works EVERY time I did it and thats now the third time.
First was installing T-Mobile Dash WM6 ROM, second the Russian HTC ROM and now finally the German HTC WM6 ROM.
Hi amm
I am new to windows mobile. i got this ophone of my old work mate.
I have tryed to put windows mobile 6 on the phone as it only have wm5 on it, but i get as far as the phone changing to upgrade mode ( 3 striped red, blue and green) screen and then it says that the phone cant comunicate.
I have tryed going though o2 website but it not recignizing my serial for the phone ( ex contract and also was a replacement handset)
any help would be nice, by the way i am on windows vist a, but i have also tryed it on xp, but the same still happns.
Thanks
Paul
anyone? noow any suggestions
This answer may seem condescending, but it isn't.
1. Are you attemtping to flash a rom update from the phone's original carrier or a non carrier specific rom? If a non carrier specific rom then see #2. If carrier specific did you download the rom from a secure place such as the carrier's website? If not, you may want to and try again.
2. Have you made sure your phone is CID and sim unlocked? This has to happen if you are attempting to flash a non carrier specific rom onto your phone. There is literature in your specific phone's Mobile 6 forum that is stickied or in the Wiki which will show you the best way to accomplish flashing. You must first read, then use the correct methods and tools or you will most likely create a brick. At this point of the game your phone is a little older and the path to Mobile 6 is well laid out. Which leads to the next question.
3. Have you done a search for this problem? You are not the first and will not be the last to have run into this issue. Using the search button does wonders here. If you have the cajones to flash your phone you are adventerous and the knowledge you will pick up will help in the long run. I say this because flashing is addictive and once you see the immediate improvements you will continue to look for better roms.
4. Please remember this is a developer's forum so the intelligence level is higher than most other forums but the patience level is much lower for those not willing to follow directions and/or help themselves. Some things have well laid out paths and others are trial and error. A lot of people here are doing a large amount of work for little to no money so please READ before embarking on your journey.
5. Get to work. Oh yeah. Please lit your phone's information in your signature. It will save someone asking the first 2 or 3 questions I did everytime. You could use mine as an example. Believe me it saves time and people are more willing to help.
hey thanks for your message
I am trying to flash the phone with Official O2 UK WM6 Trion (Hermes) rom 3.54.206.1_6275+radio 1.47 (3-8-2007) , the phone is simfree.
but even on trying to install Olipro v7 2.10 i get messages like 266 or 260 conection timed out or something. i am technical minded and i have tryed to serch for the awsers using google.
I suggest reading the Wiki and your Mobile 6 forums for the way to flash without using the usb cord. It will take a non-sdhc memory card and uses the nbh file from the rom you are flashing. Research that.
What is the HTC name for your phone? The Trion is a Hermes or a Wizard correct?
Also, CID and sim unlocking your phone will eliminate many future problems. Just be aware it automatically voids your warranty.
Okay - can you do a soft reset and have the phone work fine? That is step one. If so, then go to the Hermes Mobile 6 forum and check out the stickies. Dr. Puttingham wrote a great guide to flashing our phones.
If you can't get the phone working from the soft reset I suggest reading the Wiki and the Mobile 6 forums for the way to flash without using the usb cord. It will take a non-sdhc memory card and uses the nbh file from the rom you are flashing. Research that.
The Trion is a Hermes, which is what I have (Cingular 8525). I would suggest a non carrier rom of Mobile 6.1. You will find it to be much faster and stable.
Also, CID and sim unlocking your phone will eliminate many future problems. Just be aware it automatically voids your warranty.
hi i just found out that thephone is not a trion afterall it is a xda mini s, can this still be upgraded
I believe the Mini S is a Wizard. check out the forums. All the answers are there. I retired my Wizard 3 months ago . This is an easy problem to fix. Just read. I still suggest Mobile 6.1. Especially on the Wizard.
NVM: I got it the guys over at ppcgeeks got me through..flashed and cooked..
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First, yes, I have just joined but have been following this forum for some time. I went to the htc site upgraded my rom and radio to the newest Sprint rom. Now I want to get the Diamond Dette Rom.
Here's where the problem starts: I connect to activesynce..try to run the vogue unlocker 2.31..goes fine until it says disconnect and reconnect device..by that time my vogue is in bootloader and says USB, but no connection to activesync..so of course I can't continue, and can't establish a connection..
1. tried vogue unlocker 0.41
2. tried to flash when starting in bootloader
3. changed usb ports
4. can boot into WM 6.1
HELP what am I doing wrong..I'm not a newbie to ppc's and I'm stuck..makes me feel newbie-ish
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NVM: I got it the guys over at ppcgeeks got me through..flashed and cooked..
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First, yes, I have just joined but have been following this forum for some time. I went to the htc site upgraded my rom and radio to the newest Sprint rom. Now I want to get the Diamond Dette Rom.
Here's where the problem starts: I connect to activesynce..try to run the vogue unlocker 2.31..goes fine until it says disconnect and reconnect device..by that time my vogue is in bootloader and says USB, but no connection to activesync..so of course I can't continue, and can't establish a connection..
1. tried vogue unlocker 0.41
2. tried to flash when starting in bootloader
3. changed usb ports
4. can boot into WM 6.1
HELP what am I doing wrong..I'm not a newbie to ppc's and I'm stuck..makes me feel newbie-ish
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wow fam, hate to say it but it sounds like its a wrap...just bricked my SprinTouch also...in a different way...asurion sent me another one tho...im not gonna risk bricking another one...
not bricked
i dont think you guys bricked your phone. you should try reflashing via micro sd. if you have your phone unlocked( you can check by going into bootloader to see if you do) just put the .nbh file(rom) in the root of your storage card put back into bootloader and youir phone will ask if you want to upgrade the os. also you need to change th rom file from something.nbh to voguimg.nbh. thats real important. i do it useing total commander.
but i think you guys should try that. its the only way i flash now.faster.
tf2d said:
NVM: I got it the guys over at ppcgeeks got me through..flashed and cooked..
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First, yes, I have just joined but have been following this forum for some time. I went to the htc site upgraded my rom and radio to the newest Sprint rom. Now I want to get the Diamond Dette Rom.
Here's where the problem starts: I connect to activesynce..try to run the vogue unlocker 2.31..goes fine until it says disconnect and reconnect device..by that time my vogue is in bootloader and says USB, but no connection to activesync..so of course I can't continue, and can't establish a connection..
1. tried vogue unlocker 0.41
2. tried to flash when starting in bootloader
3. changed usb ports
4. can boot into WM 6.1
HELP what am I doing wrong..I'm not a newbie to ppc's and I'm stuck..makes me feel newbie-ish
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You dont need an active sync connection to run rom updates. if you ran the unlocker 2.31 and it gets stuck just do a hard reset and see if it says imcoke on the screen. If so then you succesfully unlocked the phone and can run the custom rom you want. Even if it doesnt connect via active sync. The RUU only finds a usb connection. it doesnt use active sync.
Hi Community,
I have bought in ebay an HTC Cavalier. I wanted to flash it but it doesn't work. Neither sda unlock nor mtty. Nothing. It caught my eye during the boot process that there is standing in red letters UI BUild Test ONLY!!!
What does this mean? Means it that I have a "trimmed" Cava? The version of my rom is v1.01V8.
When I try the SDA Unlock first appears "Phone is unlockable." Then after OK a window appears with "SDA succesfully unlocked. PLEASE REBOOT SDA NOW!"
So I tried to Flash it after reading this. The Cava gets in the bootlaoder mode with the 3 colors. And begins. Then after 1% it turns off and reboots and on my pc screen appears the Error code 270. I have read a lot of threads but noone could really help me.
Has anybody an idea how I could solve this problem?
I would really be appreciated if I could flash it. WM 5 is not really confortoble.
Tanx in advance.
scitch
Hi,
I bought mine on ebay also a few days ago here in germany. It also said "UI Build Test only" and it had WM5.
First thing I can say: it isn't trimmed (I think). I unlocked the device and then I installed HardSPL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398945
This worked without any problems on my device. After I had done this I was able to flash WM6.1 without any problem.
No big help - but I think you have to install HardSPL first before you can update your device with a great WM6.1 or WM6.5 rom.
I tried to unlock via sda unlocker but it doesn't work. what I#m doing wrong? perhabs you can give a guide how to.
Finally solved the problem and flashed wm 6.5. Looking very nice.
Thread can be closed or deleted.
can u tell how u had solved the problem
pls tell fixing problem like u had.
I have flashed phones before, (my TP2 runs android)
Sorry for the extra post, but I know someone has tried this.
I've read the stickies, there is ALOT of outdated info, dead links, etc..
***Whats the easiest upgrade route to get a stock WM6.0 Kaiser on Android?***
WM6.0>OEM HTC WM6.1 ROM>Android
OR
WM6.0>Custom WM6.5 ROM>Android
Which is the easiest/quickest way to get Android?
NAND or run Haret off the SD card?
I don't need a walkthrough just anyone's quick advice. Espicially, any trip-ups I might encounter regarding the radios and SPL versions.
Thanks
Sucessfully bricked the phone trying using Atools!
congratulations for not thoroughly reading the sticky topic about HOW TO COMPLETELY REPLACE WINDOWS MOBILE WITH ANDROID.
It Requires Radio version 1.65 or higher (which is only compatible with WM6.1 or 6.5)
It Requires HARD SPL Version 3.29 or higher (which is compatible with WM6.1 or 6.5) for the case you wanna flash on NAND
So either way, you gotta upgrade to WM6.1, HardSPL, Radio, then Go to ANDROID. Impatience often hurts. Android is blazing fast when installed on NAND (sys + Data)
So tell me,
Your phone is bricked in what sense? flashing using Atools is risky. I suggest go with RUU utility or SD Card. And I suggest you must consider a lil bit of reading first
Atools isn't a flash tool...
Thanks for the help, and I can sense your frustration. I make my living doing IT work. And, I'm not technically a newbie to the flash game. I've owned the PPC6700, Mogul, Touch Pro, and TP2. I've flashed them all. I've even contributed a sticky or two.
I admit I was rushed. And like a small child with a gun, I took a shot without fully understanding Atools.
Yes, I can only blame myself for my Kaiser's demise. To answer your question, the Kaiser is toast. It can't get bootloader and only has a blackscreen and one green light. Atools wins this round. But I'm not too concerened, I'm in a position where I have a nice stock of Kaiser's to fry before I need to peruse The DEFINITIVE MTTY thread.
Dark_prince, please don't blame my impatience entirely for the phone's death. Don't you think some of the blame definitely falls on me not being a bit smarter than 'ye old sticky thread (How to replace Windows Mobile with Android). Following that sticky verbatim will lead a WM6.0 user to HARDSPL first, and then update WM6.1. Ignoring that, the sticky also instructs users to use Atools, which requires it's own sticky.
In the passing year and a half since that sticky was updated, haven't newer versions of Android appeared with newer methods of installation that aren't covered in the sticky? Specifically, it's not clear to me where to find a newer Android installation tutorial that doesn't include Atools.
I'm comfortable that I could complete an Android-Haret setup running off the SD card, but I don't think performance would be acceptable. I want what you and others have
Android is blazing fast when installed on NAND (sys + Data)
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and I'm not above begging for your help to get it.
Now that I've burned one attempt, I need someone's input about how to proceed. Any help is appreciated....
In my usage case, I'm starting with an AT&T 8925 (Tilt) (KAISER100) w/ WM6.0 Professional. Here's where I stand on attempt #2
1. Cleared the storage on the phone.
2. In order to get the correct usb drivers on my Windows 7 PC, I downloaded and installed WMDC 6.1 UPDATE: WMDC 6.1 Does not install ALL the correct drivers, you'll need to force some by reading this thread.
3. A few toggles of "Advanced Network Functionality" later, the phone was Syncing nicely.
4. I then downloaded and flashed the Official HTC AT&T Tilt WM6.1 Upgrade ROM Success.
I now have stock WM6.1 and radio version 1.65.21.18
Next up, I'm trying to decide which HardSPL to use, and which radio will provide me with the best options from the Android Chefs. I don't anticipate any trouble flashing these. But, which combination of HardSPL and radio offer the best base package for an upgrade to Android? I'd love your advice.
Speaking that, after I upgrade the SPL and radio, how the hell do I get Android on my phone if I'm not suppossed to use Atools? Don't I need Atools in order to create a custom .nbh and Android install package for my Kaiser? If not, where can I find these files, especially if I don't know my panel type?
UPDATE: A Little bit closer.
I successfully updated the SPL / Radio(1.70.Olinex) / SIM Unlocked using KaiserUnlocker.exe
Updated the bootloader to 3.56 Hard SPL nostuckinSPL / Force USB via SD card
Updated the radio from 170.0linex to 1.70.19.09 via SD CARD
For any Windows 7 x64 users attempting to Flash their Kaiser, be sure to have a look at [TUT] Dummies guide: updating HTC USB Sync Drivers.
I should have made a bigger mental note when after I installed WMDC 6.1, Windows FAILED to install the correct driver the first time I connected my phone to the PC in bootloader mode. The above thread explains the process of booting Windows 7 in a special mode, in order to force customized drivers to be installed on your machine, the hard way. I followed the steps until about step 12 (my device manager never yellow flagged anything). According to the thread, it looked like it failed, so I resorted to the next best thing. Keep the phone in bootloader and unplug and replug to different usb ports praying that my "forced-on" drivers would finally recognize the damn thing. Success, it finally did and Windows started loading the Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM Windows driver. Launching KaiserUnlocker.exe took it from there, albiet with one confusing caveat... IN the first part of step 1, KaiserUnlocker will tell you that you need to unplug and replug your usb during the second-half of step one. Okay, no problem. It fails to tell you that you're going to do this "uplug and replug" at the same time you'll be staring at text in red saying DO NOT UNPLUG OR LAUNCH ANY PROGRAMS!
However, unplugging and replugging is necessary in order to trigger Windows to use the bootloader drivers to communicate.