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I LOVE Tom's B&B Rom, but a few questions please?

Tom deserves every penny we send him - he is incredible and so is his ROM (BIT THANKS for all your work and help, Tom!) but I have a few small problems. My questions for now are
1. How can I find the options for the weather program? I need Fahrenheit, not Celcius. and
2. How can I get the music launcher to launch my registered Pocket Player instead of the Windows or HTC player. I listen to books and need the bookmark option.
Otherwise this is fantastic and I really recommend it to all! Thanks again, Tom! You're my hero!

1.) On the weather panel, tap on your town to go to the town selection. Right softkey takes you to menu -> weather options.
2.) I'm not sure that this is possible...
Hope this helps, Pete

Cinamon said:
Tom deserves every penny we send him - he is incredible and so is his ROM (BIT THANKS for all your work and help, Tom!) but I have a few small problems. My questions for now are
1. How can I find the options for the weather program? I need Fahrenheit, not Celcius. and
2. How can I get the music launcher to launch my registered Pocket Player instead of the Windows or HTC player. I listen to books and need the bookmark option.
Otherwise this is fantastic and I really recommend it to all! Thanks again, Tom! You're my hero!
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Hello Madam Susan..
1.If i want Fahrenheit please kick to city in weather go to menu ---> Weather Options---> enable Fahrenheit style and ok..!
2.u can't change Pocket Player in HTC Home tabs as Audio manager and WMPlayer..!
Cheers..!

tom_codon said:
Hello Madam Susan..
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2.u can't change Pocket Player in HTC Home tabs as Audio manager and WMPlayer..!
Cheers..!
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tom, what happens if i change "Path" in "HKLM/Software/HTC/Biotouch/MediaHubMini/App1" to pocket player?
edit: i know this is not for the today plugin, but at least for the cube.

Thanks !
Weather is in Fahrenheit now - thank you very much ! (That was easy!)
But Is there any way to use bookmarks in Media Player or HTC Audio? That is the only reason I bought Pocket Player.

The biotouch settings are for the application launcher part of the touchflo cube so wouldnt change the audio player but give a link to the player instead. better to use the program for the biotouch settings for tat so you can change text and graphics for the shortcut.
BTW tom if you're reading this, I could marry you for making B&B 4 Best thing ever for the artemis... Keep up the good work!!

soardiac said:
tom, what happens if i change "Path" in "HKLM/Software/HTC/Biotouch/MediaHubMini/App1" to pocket player?
edit: i know this is not for the today plugin, but at least for the cube.
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Try it..!
I think u can

tom_codon said:
2.u can't change Pocket Player in HTC Home tabs as Audio manager and WMPlayer..!
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But is it possible to have Audio manager back in HTC Home tab? How?

Pjtheman said:
The biotouch settings are for the application launcher part of the touchflo cube so wouldnt change the audio player but give a link to the player instead. better to use the program for the biotouch settings for tat so you can change text and graphics for the shortcut.
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with the biotouch settings tool i can only choose from a list (of two) and not choose any application i want (for music). but than again, i dont have pocket player installed so maybe if i had it would appear in that list.
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Try it..!
I think u can
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yeah, i will. i like messing up my device. a day without a hard reset is like a day witout sex.
but i dont have pocket player installed so i need to get that first.

I know I am Being a Pest
But I would like a bright pretty color on my dialing screen instead of black. I know, only a female would ask for that .... smile .... but is there a registry entry to let me change the background color? Thanks again!

I think the interface is designed specifically to link in with those two... I don't know if tom did anything here or just used HTC's programs with no mods, if he did (or knows how) he might be able to shed some light on how to link between PP and the media interface through an API?
If I'm talking rubbish please stop me!

There should be a page on the Artemis wiki all about B&B4 with things like a guide to flashing, setting up batterystatus with cpuscalar, reg hacks etc!
Would sure help tom dealing with repeated questions, and users with having to go through the 50 odd page thread on B&B4!
Not saying that because one of you guys has asked a question thats already been asked, I don't know, It just seems like a good idea!
My 2p
edit: Sorry I didn't mean there IS a page, I mean it would be useful if someone got all the info together and MADE one... Sorry for misleading you...

No Luck Searching Wiki
I found the Artemis and the official OS info on Wiki but nothing at all about B&B. Anyone know tweaks to the registry to change colors?
Thanks!

Cinamon said:
I found the Artemis and the official OS info on Wiki but nothing at all about B&B. Anyone know tweaks to the registry to change colors?
Thanks!
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What u want change color madam ??

Change Color
I'd like a new color - something pretty and bright - maybe blue or green - on the dialing page. Is there a registry tweak to change it? Thanks!

Ideas for B&B version 4.2

I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers

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I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers
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Here is something that may hold you over, I am still trying to figure out how to use the caller id without the actual slide to unlock, bit here is something to tide you over, jsut a thought

Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers

Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.

kakainis said:
Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.
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This would be a waste of time and energy for most, these Roms are made to be efficient, the least amount of space used so that you as an individual can place your desired programs, once a rom is built there is no removing/uninstalling of any apps, hence the reason to not put trial versions into a rom, I use several of the above mentioned, but to "Bloat" a rom with them would be ineffecient. Best thing to do is install on your sd card, keep all your initial install cabs in one folder and use that as your rebuild folder. Cheers.

Juice05 said:
Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers
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This may assist you in this matter, Cheers.

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Is it not worth remembering that everyone has a different list of killer apps they MUST have on their device?
If Tom & Meschle etc added every app - the rom would only just fit on a 40gb hard disk!!!
To my mind - the idea is that the cooked roms are a basis onto which you install your own apps to make your own device work?
Constanlty asking for new apps to be added to a rom just complicates the issue. Or am I wrong?

something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete

automated network setup like in the O2 WM6 Premium 1.0 WWE rom

Extended timers & alarms application
I'd like to avoid installing SpbTime on each version
Great job!

OK, i agree, rom should be as slim as possible, but why the hell there is cube, psshutXP, PHM regedit/traylaunch, and office mobile on it then?
Could make an ultra lite wersion. (=
P.S. Dont get me wrong, i think 4.1 is great and it is a lot faster than O2. Just throwing around ideas about how to make it better.

with my original post, I was not really asking for a copy of the app, just would like a much bigger photo to pop up with caller id and liked the look of the inesoft one.
Tom - what do you think?

Just trying to make the ROM easier to use, more efficient.
B&B 4.1 is far better than original ROM from this point of view
TouchFlo for example helps to have everything we need with a single finger move..
Phone app is a lot more usable also.
Perhaps also the possibility to customize HTC Home by default, with more options (number of apps in the launcher, ..)

i don't think that is constructive to add as much apps, i can imagine, when it's released, everbody is shouting "this is not good" and "why did you use this app and not the other one"...and so one. I like it clear, not too much apps...but that's my opinion.
If i want it with all apps included then i start (to learn ) cooking my own ROM... IMHO i am very satisfied with the work that Tom is doing for us all. And 4.1 is just released. Enjoy it and let Tom make a break. He is hard working all the time!

Plugins for new version
Alarms extension (SpbTime style)
USB PenDrive emulator (WMstorage style)
Phone call recording (Audio Recorder style)
Thanks for B&B! Great job!

i have a great idea
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.

Improving File access
What I would like to see is the File Dialog Changer, I don't know who has heard of it but it is very good! Usually when you want to save files or open them in any application you get access to you My Documents folder. Only some smart apps like TCPMP and others have the option to access your entire pda.
File Dialog Changer changes the way you access your files in opening and saving them for every application, it's just 50 KB and you can activate / deactivate it in System Settings.
bbracer16valver said:
something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete
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And about your wish I can only say that there is already Remote Desktop for WM6, I think I've downloaded it in the Wizard forum. Or use PocketVNC, that is the pda version for VNC. I am successfully using that with TightVNC on my computer. I just have to be in range of my WLAN and can turn on my computer by sending a wake on lan signal (not with vnc) and then access my computer through pocketvnc or access the files on my computer.

neilhhardy said:
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.
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Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop

brainstorming said:
Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop
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I think he had a point though. In the whole thread there is not one message of Tom Codon himself. Did you ask what he thinks? Maybe he has a few ideas of his own? After all, it will be his ROM...

Who says it will be B&B v4.2? Why not 4.3 or 5.0? If there will be another version let him take care of the numbers.

4 programs per line - is it possible

not keen on having only 3 programs per line on the programs tab. can the icons not be shrunk to allow 4 icons per line? or is there a cab for this already?
thank you.

Exactly what I have been thinking of for a while...

sometimes wish i became a programmer, love what these guys can do, wish i had the power!
Well hopefully are wish will be answered.
Just a big thanks for all the programmers that have made so much possible. off topic question... how comes multi million pound companies cant or is it wont do to the os ui etc that you guys do...(in the sense of tweaking and making the devices more productive??? they acheive so much making these devices, get to the finish line and stop for the guys here to perfect...

Hardqs said:
not keen on having only 3 programs per line on the programs tab. can the icons not be shrunk to allow 4 icons per line? or is there a cab for this already?
thank you.
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Search the forum. The answer is there.
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Check the wiki here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Tweaks

I think that they mean 4 programs per line in the TF3D tab. The above tweak changes the winmo interface.

CarpeNoctum said:
I think that they mean 4 programs per line in the TF3D tab. The above tweak changes the winmo interface.
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Yep, I think you're right.

Yup 4 lines in the Manilla program tab. I would love this as its such a waste of space.
If i have Visual Studio i would install the Mobile SDK and start learning the language. I can write VB quite well so should adapt reasonably quickly.

Here you are...

athanaso77 said:
Here you are...
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didn't work for me
Sure it is for TF3D tab ?

keroin said:
didn't work for me
Sure it is for TF3D tab ?
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Oh sorry... you want for the TF3D programs? That's my misunderstanding! This is to have 4 icons in Programs and Settings.
I think that till now i haven't seen something like that you request.

I asked the same questions before... and I think some of the users as well...
But no, so far I havent come across any solutions on that... :-(

it can be done with HD Tweak available on this forum. I've done it myselt. I've also done many other great tweaks.
have fun
G

wmfreak said:
it can be done with HD Tweak available on this forum. I've done it myselt. I've also done many other great tweaks.
have fun
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If you read the above messages you will understand that the user requested something else. What you propose creates four in a row in the windows mobile environment in Settings and in Programs. The user has asked if there is a way to have four programs in a row in the TF3D tab. And the answer is No. At least so far.

Help a noob - please

I'm not at all technical, and therfore nervous about completely changing the ROM on my HD. I'm also paranoid about touching the registery, because I don't know what I'm doing.
There are 2 things i'd like to do:
1) modify the tabs at the bottom of the screen to get rid of all the garbage that my carrier put there, and customise it to what i want.
2) have the ability to change the functionality of the soft keys below the screen
Is there a utility or program that does either or both of these things.
Many thanks

Lost too!
Hi
im new here too! still wondering n lost about the terms and acronyms used here.
Whats TF3D? wats Manila? how do i normalise back a certain add-ons which i dun like? do i need a certain additional program to install certain add-ons? gosh, im so lost!
juz bought the phone but nothing has been done yet..
any BASIC/MUST-HAVE applications or add-ons as a start as a base?
Many thanks!

You can always flash a new ROM (thats the core.. the OS and basic apps.. and on your phone all that stuff you operator added) theres a wiki how to do it. Flashing a rom is similar to flashing the bios on your PC. Most things are editable. You can get "Cooked" ROMs those are Cores that people have modified, added to, customized and tweaked.
manila is the the tab interface you see on touch phones there's Manila 2d and newer TF3D - (TouchFlo 3d)
There's tons of freeware and opensource available and what is "must" have is largely opinion and what you do with your phone. it's good to browse here for apps and in Blackstone/ROMs for ROMs.
things to be aware of your phone is WVGA.. big screen not all apps will fill it if they are qvga or vga. also you have almost no buttons so everything is touch... this can be a problem with some apps as they expect/require buttons. But newer apps are improving to support purely touch base control.
hope this helps you can always msg me if u have questions.

sophian84 said:
Hi
im new here too! still wondering n lost about the terms and acronyms used here.
Whats TF3D? wats Manila? how do i normalise back a certain add-ons which i dun like? do i need a certain additional program to install certain add-ons? gosh, im so lost!
juz bought the phone but nothing has been done yet..
any BASIC/MUST-HAVE applications or add-ons as a start as a base?
Many thanks!
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Most addons come as .cab files you copy them to your phone and execute then.. run them and theyll install.. theyll ask phone memory or card storage. i put most things on the card and only install key things for the phone to run in its memory. to uninstall any cab or some programs that are exe and you run from desktop they install to phone. you can uninstall them either from activesync remove programs, or from your phone settings/system/ remove program and they uninstall.

bfi2906 said:
I'm not at all technical, and therfore nervous about completely changing the ROM on my HD. I'm also paranoid about touching the registery, because I don't know what I'm doing.
There are 2 things i'd like to do:
1) modify the tabs at the bottom of the screen to get rid of all the garbage that my carrier put there, and customise it to what i want.
2) have the ability to change the functionality of the soft keys below the screen
Is there a utility or program that does either or both of these things.
Many thanks
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Please don't try to change the ROM now, I would recommend you play first with the HD and learn it.
Answers:
1. There are many options - one is:
Stevedpl7 TF3D Tab Icon Theme 5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ight=stevedpl7
2. You can program the soft keys in many of the config tools - one is:
JS Advanced Configuration Tool 3.3 http://www.touchxperience.com/en/adv...tion-tool.html
Finally, while the application list is always personal, I suggest reviewing mine at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3117017&highlight=secondtoday#post3117017
Good luck !

Thank you sooo much guys - that's about the level of tech-ness I can cope with right now. I think I'll shy away from loading a new ROM for a while, as suggested. I just sounds like it'd too risky for a dunce like me, and the consequences appear to be potentially quite dire.
I have found and installed HDTweaks, and that allowed me to configure the softkeys. Now all I have to do is find a way to change / reallocate / rearrange the tabs.
Thanks again for your "sympathy" and help.
Cheers.

whats going on here

Hi all,
please excuse the vagueness of this post.
I have just been given a tp2 as a replacement to my td2
My wife also has the tp2 which she got a year ago
the whole look of the phone (software ) is totally diferent
for instance the program page used to list a few progs (your choice) and then you had to hit all progs to get them up.
i am guessing that its a different rom or different version of sense?
also how do i change/edit/remove some programs from the list?
cheers guys

you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.

thanks for that
sorry to be thick but does that just enable me to move the prog icons or delete the progs as well
appreciate the help

thesyntax said:
you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.
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You don't need to edit the registry to turn off Manila. This is easily done from the Today settings.

hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks

stringman said:
hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks
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Different issues, my friend. Sense is the UI (aka Manila versions 2.1 and 2.5) you see when you start the phone. It is on by default, but you can turn it off in the Today setup and use the much less memory intensive standard Window Mobile screen. Go into the Today setup and turn off Sense by removing the check mark in the list and putting a check mark on Windows Default.
As for the bloatware that comes with the phone, anything on the ROM can not be removed except by flashing a new ROM. You can delete shortcuts from your start menu for programs you don't/won't use, but the programs will still be there. Do a search for Crud Scraper, a neat little tool that can 'remove' stuff from specific phone models (it worked great on my Tilt 2). Beyond that, read up as much as you can on modding your phone. This place is a great resource. Unfortunately, easy answers are hard to come by. You have to roll up your sleeves and get a little dirty.