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3G [3G] icon v.s. UMTS [U]

Okay,
This is driving me nuts, i've been a lurker on this forum for months now, and i've searched all over this forum (for the last 3 hours) to find a fix for this but I havent found one.
I'm in Australia, and we've got UMTS here, it's working because it says "UMTS Telstra" in the dialer, but other then that I've still got the 3G icon displaying at the top and it NEVER changes, its so annoying!
I've tried XDA Live 0.10, 0.20 and now i'm using the 15-03-2007 LSVW release and nothing's changed...
I know i'm not the only one experiencing this, but has anybody found a solution for it?
Other than that everything else works great!

3g=umts=wcdma
S.k.

silent_killa said:
3g=umts=wcdma
S.k.
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Yeah but with WM5 it showed U for UMTS, G for GPRS, E for Edge etc...
Infact it was rare that i ever saw the 3G icon at all..

Its installed on certain ROMs and some roms have "U" by default and the ext rom installs the "3G" over it. We refer to it as 3G over here (I think many that use 3G will sit there and scratch their head at the mention of UMTS) so it dont bother me.
If my memory serves me correctly, the HTC 1.35 ROM has the "U" and not "3G"
Also there is a thread on this with some cabs to try if you run a search.
S.K.

silent_killa said:
Its installed on certain ROMs and some roms have "U" by default and the ext rom installs the "3G" over it. We refer to it as 3G over here (I think many that use 3G will sit there and scratch their head at the mention of UMTS) so it dont bother me.
If my memory serves me correctly, the HTC 1.35 ROM has the "U" and not "3G"
Also there is a thread on this with some cabs to try if you run a search.
S.K.
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I've searched all over this forum, and I haven't found it... I think i did come across it once before but when i tried to look for it now I couldn't find it... (very annoying)...
I know the I-Mate roms show it as a "U" because thats what I had on prior to WM6
Any idea what i should search for? I've tried "3G Icon" and "UMTS"

Also the UMTS is just a text string you can change in the registry. For me I've changed the UMTS to HSDPA to correspond with our network offering in Canada.
But when not in a 3G coverage area that text string is no longer there.

sirtrini said:
Also the UMTS is just a text string you can change in the registry. For me I've changed the UMTS to HSDPA to correspond with our network offering in Canada.
But when not in a 3G coverage area that text string is no longer there.
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Yeah i know about that one, I discovered it in XDA-Live 0.10...
If anyone could please post either the cleaner 3G icon or the "U" icon and instructions on how to install them, i'd be very thankful

If you let the ext rom on LVSW install then it will install the cleaner icon
S.K.

Andy4life said:
Yeah but with WM5 it showed U for UMTS, G for GPRS, E for Edge etc...
Infact it was rare that i ever saw the 3G icon at all..
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I was annoyed by this when I moved to WM6 too.
Doesn't this help?
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/WMXL_Support_Files/WMXL_Patch_Memory_&_HSDPA_Icon.CAB
"Recommended - Sets the memory cache to Auto and adds the HSDPA icon in registry file"

This cab work's good for me with wmxl 0.21

Wow, something this small annoys you? Why does it matter?

As several of us have said elsewhere, we get areas of standard signal, "3G" signal, and HSPDA signal. Without three icons, we can't distinguish between them.
Once again:
G = okay signal and speed.
U = good signal and 3G speed (upto 384 Kbps).
H = very good signal and speed upto (in my case) 1.8 Mbps.
When "U" and "H" signals both display as "3G", you can't tell if you've moved into an HSPDA area. In my case, I move across my office and it goes to "H" and I get better speed - so it's VERY useful when I want to browse or download stuff (or watch SlingPlayer).

Fair enough. I don't use any telco-supplied data so I wasn't sure. I always connect to local wireless.

Izzard-UK said:
I was annoyed by this when I moved to WM6 too.
Doesn't this help?
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/WMXL_Support_Files/WMXL_Patch_Memory_&_HSDPA_Icon.CAB
"Recommended - Sets the memory cache to Auto and adds the HSDPA icon in registry file"
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Thanks for that, but unfortunately it doesn't work, i'm still stuck looking at the disgusting 3G icon.
I don't know why it annoys me so much lol, I think i'm just so used to looking at the "U".

Andy4life said:
Thanks for that, but unfortunately it doesn't work, i'm still stuck looking at the disgusting 3G icon.
I don't know why it annoys me so much lol, I think i'm just so used to looking at the "U".
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I don't see what's wrong with the 3G icon...I think it looks more beautiful than the just the U icon. After all.....it's called 3G technology...which is a simpler name instead of the technical name.

My experiences:
LVSW first version gives a nice looking 3G icon when I've got UMTS coverage. When HSDPA is used, it show the 'H' icon (only when connected!).
However, the second LVSW version shows a 'stretched' 3G icon.
Is this also fixed by the cab file mentioned earlier?

Andy4life said:
Thanks for that, but unfortunately it doesn't work, i'm still stuck looking at the disgusting 3G icon.
I don't know why it annoys me so much lol, I think i'm just so used to looking at the "U".
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I looked for a solution to the ugly 3g icon too, but i think i gave up pretty fast. so iv'e learned to live with it, somehow. but i still want the "U"

hi,
do a search for shogun_Uicon.cab,that should take care of U probem...
after that do a registry hack for H icon and u r set to go....
hope it works

Hey all,
I installed the LVSW ROM onto my iMate. I've had the same problem mentioned here before (not displaying as UMTS)...
I think the reason for it is quite simple, at least for the Telstra users.
NextG nextwork is counted as a normal 3G network.. not as a UMTS network. The original WM5 rom that was supplied might have had some sort of hack in place for us JasJam users...
Anyways, now I actually get a HSDPA logo on my phone, letting me know about speeds...
*shrugs*

The TEST WWE AKU 3.3 Full ROM that I was given to test displayed the connection as follows:
G GPRS
U 3G
H HSDPA
I never saw an E as we don't have Edge in our area.
I changed the U display to read 3G with a posted registry hack.
The G correctly displays GPRS network
The 3G correctly displays 3G or UMTS
The H correctly displays when a data package is sent or received.
Maybe this information can lead you in the right direction with the WM6 os.
Cheers

no network type icon (G/E/3G/H) on Tmo TP2?

On my Tmo TP2 the icon that notates that you're in Edge, GPRS, or 3G is missing from the task bar at the top. Is this the case with any one else?
I've been wondering since I got the phone why its not there. Its on my Tilt & on the MDA, but missing on the TP2. How do I get it back (without changing the task bar icons)?
you can see the difference in the 2 screen shots to see what i'm talking about. The first is my phone & the second is some stock image. see the H? yeah, mine should show a 3G beside the signal bars as well. WTF?

Just got my replacement Tmo TP2 (for another issue) in the mail & it still does the same thing. These were taken without modifying anything on the new phone. Again, no big G/E/3G/H right next to the signal bars

xnifex said:
On my Tmo TP2 the icon that notates that you're in Edge, GPRS, or 3G is missing from the task bar at the top. Is this the case with any one else?
I've been wondering since I got the phone why its not there. Its on my Tilt & on the MDA, but missing on the TP2. How do I get it back (without changing the task bar icons)?
you can see the difference in the 2 screen shots to see what i'm talking about. The first is my phone & the second is some stock image. see the H? yeah, mine should show a 3G beside the signal bars as well. WTF?
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What ROM is on the phone in you're picture? The unbranded HTC Touch Pro2, is there any way to put the unbranded ROM onto the TMo US TP2?

its the stock Tmobile TP2 ROM. There probably is a way, I just don't want to flash to a different ROM

I don't think I had any problems getting E,G,3G to show up when I first got my device. Now I use a different set of taskbar items so I cannot verify that.

Its replaced by the "3G T-Mobile" located on the left... when you dont have the 3G it goes down to just "T-Mobile".. there is a registry tweak that allows you to bring back the 3G, E, G, but i cannot remember where it is located in the registry, I saw it on the Raphael section

So it was brought to my attention here that even in the Tmo TP2 manual there are screenshots where the icons aren't there.
It seems that Tmobile disabled it. Stupid. Why do that? Oh well, putting a taskbar theme on the phone fixes it.
I would be interested in seeing the registry tweak you're talking about BlackAccord.
As far as the 3G "Carrier" vs "Carrier" thing, that's on all TP2s, not just the Tmobile version

I have a custom task bar that I got over on PPCGeeks and it has the 4 bars with a blue E above them AND another E next to that by itself! I want to get rid of the blue E above the bars without changing any of the other icons, but have no idea how to do it.

as far as i know, you can't change the blue E unless you revert to the white E. the E on your signal bars is to notate that you're actually connected to data while the big E is to notate that you're in an area with EDGE data coverage.

don't have it in mine either and was wondering at first why nobody at tmonews knew about it when you asked, i guess they're all hardcore tmo users with no unbranded phones
as you've probably known from your Tilt, the H or 3G shows up when not using data (2100 present), but switches to a E when the Tilt data is activated(no 1700). My guess is Tmo removed the icon in a pathetic attempt to not draw attention to the absence of their anemic 3G coverage. But the icon placeholder is there, just blacked out, since when you get a notification, there's a blank space between the message icon and the antenna bars. I too was trying to get it back, but have gotten used to the blank space, since I just canceled the data after they blocked web2go network-wide yesterday.
edit:
check out this photo of TMUS TP2 alongside Pharos Traveler 137, which has both ATT & TM 3G bands. There is good reason why TMUS would want to hide that icon
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=12969305#post12969305

T-Mobile HSDPA

I just purchased T-Mobile's version of the Touch Pro 2 about a week ago. I moved from AT&T and the TyTN II.
On the TyTN II, whenever I was on HSDPA, the connection icon would display an H. On my Touch Pro 2, I only ever see a "3G" icon. However, my connection settings are set to use HSDPA/HSUPA. I have unlimited web service, for what's it's worth.
Is this normal? Am I in fact getting HSDPA service? If not, is it a registry fix? Is there anyway to check for sure what protocol I'm connected with?

I would like to know that as well, Its normal same thing on my tmo tp2

I see the "H" symbol, but only when actively downloading data. It switches back and forth which I think is a good thing. No problems on this end running the stock T-Mo ROM

yeah I kept getting the 3G icon too, but after i put on tsowen's taskbar, now I get the H & i don't think i've seen the 3G at all.

xnifex said:
yeah I kept getting the 3G icon too, but after i put on tsowen's taskbar, now I get the H & i don't think i've seen the 3G at all.
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I have only seen the H icon after installing a custom taskbar as well. I'm not sure if it just replaced the 3G icon right out or if it is correctly displaying it.

My g1 displayed 3g when i had the t-mobile firmware on it. When i put a different one, H or something was displayed. The tp2 i have is the same way. I put a different firmware on it and it went from 3g to H now. I am not using the t-mobile firmware but one of the 6.5 roms. I would bet t-mobile put the 3g icon on purpose.

H and 3G are the same thing on the phone. It just depends on what your ROM is setup to show it as.

kable said:
H and 3G are the same thing on the phone. It just depends on what your ROM is setup to show it as.
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they are not the same:
3G = 364 Kbps
HSDPA (3.5G) = 1.5-3 Mbps

i get at least 650kbps with 3G only icon. So i think im on the H

xnifex said:
they are not the same:
3G = 364 Kbps
HSDPA (3.5G) = 1.5-3 Mbps
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I was referring to the phone just showing 3G or H not the actual speeds.

I'm in the same boat as you guys. When I was on the stock ROM I only saw 3G with 2 bars and this was at my house. Now that I'm on a cooked ROM, I see H all the time with my 2 bars at my house. I only get the H when I'm at home, but when I'm at work I get 3G with full bars. I don't even have the option to use HSDPA checked, I have it unchecked in the options.
I'm sure the H has to do with the cooked ROMs or custom taskbars. Idk!

[Q] Just a small question about signal quality display

Hello guys,
I´m a happy Desire owner since 2 weeks now and have a little question.
I noticed the following:
In areas with bad network coverage, signal shows (E)dge, or if it´s even mor bad it shows (G)PRS. That OK.
But in areas with good coverage it shows 3G (UMTS) all the time, and only if I transfer data, eg syncing email, it´s showing (H)SDPA, and switches back to 3G.
Is that normal?
I wonder as this is my first android device, and all my older WiMo phones where showing (H)SDPA all the time.
I´ve read else where, that often changing networks need a lot of battery power.
Oh, I´m using T-Mobile in germany with an unbraded Desire running 2.2.
I noticed this also with 2.1
Thank you!

Perhaps the question was´nt clear enough ... sorry.
I mean, I this the same at your phones, or do they show (H) all the time?
Thank you again!

Mine does this too.
If you want to lock to a single network type *#*#info#*#* in the dialer.

In the UK mine shows hsdpa most of the time, sometimes gprs when roaming. It does not show anything when on WiFi, just shows the bars. If you press from home screen the menu - settings - about phone - network, then you see the signal strength and type of signal .

bubblesmoney said:
In the UK mine shows hsdpa most of the time, sometimes gprs when roaming. It does not show anything when on WiFi, just shows the bars. If you press from home screen the menu - settings - about phone - network, then you see the signal strength and type of signal .
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Thats what I thought it should do ... so it seems my SIM is having a problem.
Yesterday I put a friend´s SIM in it (also using T-Mobile) and it shows H all the time and never 3G. If Network is bad it switches to E and then back to H.
Now I´ve ordered a new SIM, so lets see ...
OK my SIM is around 12 years now ... 1998 ...

Couple of things..

First, i would like to know if there is a way to keep the phone's data network ALWAYS on H not on 3G and having them switch back and forth it slows down the internet speed. Is there a setting or something i could change.
Second the notification LED. How can i make it so it can blink quicker.. i dont want to stare at my phone for like 5 seconds to see if its blinking or not...
Third the Swype keyboard ?? is it possible to get that keyboard after i put the Cyanmod ?? That keyboard is way better than the original android one.
I have a Rooted ( S- OFF) G2.
Cyan V6.1.0-RC3.
Thanks!

Fanatico said:
First, i would like to know if there is a way to keep the phone's data network ALWAYS on H not on 3G and having them switch back and forth it slows down the internet speed. Is there a setting or something i could change.
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Your phone is only switching back to 3G if it loses the H signal. So that's an issue of your reception, not something your phone can control.

When i had the nexus one. It was always on 3G. Then i Rooted it. Changed radio etc etc.. and now it was 3g and switched to H like my g2 now. Before i hacked the G2 there was no 3g. It was either H or Edge. And everytime it's on 3G now that it's hacked it doesn't use it.. it simply just takes a few seconds then goes to H.

I use anycut from market.
New shortcut
Activity
Testing
Click on new shortcut
Select phone information
From there I scroll down to force the phone use wcdma.
I don't know if that'll work. You don't need root or anything.
I hope this helps
Sorry if it dont .
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

Fanatico said:
When i had the nexus one. It was always on 3G. Then i Rooted it. Changed radio etc etc.. and now it was 3g and switched to H like my g2 now. Before i hacked the G2 there was no 3g. It was either H or Edge. And everytime it's on 3G now that it's hacked it doesn't use it.. it simply just takes a few seconds then goes to H.
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It was using 3G before, you just didn't know it. T-Mobile decided that they were going to have their G2's display H for HSPA+ as well as 3G to give people the illusion of almost always using pseudo-4G

ibemad1 said:
It was using 3G before, you just didn't know it. T-Mobile decided that they were going to have their G2's display H for HSPA+ as well as 3G to give people the illusion of almost always using pseudo-4G
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The thing is that.. when i do a speed test and my phone is in 3g the speed is around 160-250 kbs then while is testing it switches to HSPA and the speed goes to 2-3mbs.. before I hacked it it was on H. And both of the times I tested in the same place. I understand that tmobile would disguise it.. but its odd that the speed test would switch like that, which didn't happen before. Also 3g and Hspa are two different networks :/
But still thanks for the help.