Okay,
This is driving me nuts, i've been a lurker on this forum for months now, and i've searched all over this forum (for the last 3 hours) to find a fix for this but I havent found one.
I'm in Australia, and we've got UMTS here, it's working because it says "UMTS Telstra" in the dialer, but other then that I've still got the 3G icon displaying at the top and it NEVER changes, its so annoying!
I've tried XDA Live 0.10, 0.20 and now i'm using the 15-03-2007 LSVW release and nothing's changed...
I know i'm not the only one experiencing this, but has anybody found a solution for it?
Other than that everything else works great!
3g=umts=wcdma
S.k.
silent_killa said:
3g=umts=wcdma
S.k.
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Yeah but with WM5 it showed U for UMTS, G for GPRS, E for Edge etc...
Infact it was rare that i ever saw the 3G icon at all..
Its installed on certain ROMs and some roms have "U" by default and the ext rom installs the "3G" over it. We refer to it as 3G over here (I think many that use 3G will sit there and scratch their head at the mention of UMTS) so it dont bother me.
If my memory serves me correctly, the HTC 1.35 ROM has the "U" and not "3G"
Also there is a thread on this with some cabs to try if you run a search.
S.K.
silent_killa said:
Its installed on certain ROMs and some roms have "U" by default and the ext rom installs the "3G" over it. We refer to it as 3G over here (I think many that use 3G will sit there and scratch their head at the mention of UMTS) so it dont bother me.
If my memory serves me correctly, the HTC 1.35 ROM has the "U" and not "3G"
Also there is a thread on this with some cabs to try if you run a search.
S.K.
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I've searched all over this forum, and I haven't found it... I think i did come across it once before but when i tried to look for it now I couldn't find it... (very annoying)...
I know the I-Mate roms show it as a "U" because thats what I had on prior to WM6
Any idea what i should search for? I've tried "3G Icon" and "UMTS"
Also the UMTS is just a text string you can change in the registry. For me I've changed the UMTS to HSDPA to correspond with our network offering in Canada.
But when not in a 3G coverage area that text string is no longer there.
sirtrini said:
Also the UMTS is just a text string you can change in the registry. For me I've changed the UMTS to HSDPA to correspond with our network offering in Canada.
But when not in a 3G coverage area that text string is no longer there.
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Yeah i know about that one, I discovered it in XDA-Live 0.10...
If anyone could please post either the cleaner 3G icon or the "U" icon and instructions on how to install them, i'd be very thankful
If you let the ext rom on LVSW install then it will install the cleaner icon
S.K.
Andy4life said:
Yeah but with WM5 it showed U for UMTS, G for GPRS, E for Edge etc...
Infact it was rare that i ever saw the 3G icon at all..
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I was annoyed by this when I moved to WM6 too.
Doesn't this help?
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/WMXL_Support_Files/WMXL_Patch_Memory_&_HSDPA_Icon.CAB
"Recommended - Sets the memory cache to Auto and adds the HSDPA icon in registry file"
This cab work's good for me with wmxl 0.21
Wow, something this small annoys you? Why does it matter?
As several of us have said elsewhere, we get areas of standard signal, "3G" signal, and HSPDA signal. Without three icons, we can't distinguish between them.
Once again:
G = okay signal and speed.
U = good signal and 3G speed (upto 384 Kbps).
H = very good signal and speed upto (in my case) 1.8 Mbps.
When "U" and "H" signals both display as "3G", you can't tell if you've moved into an HSPDA area. In my case, I move across my office and it goes to "H" and I get better speed - so it's VERY useful when I want to browse or download stuff (or watch SlingPlayer).
Fair enough. I don't use any telco-supplied data so I wasn't sure. I always connect to local wireless.
Izzard-UK said:
I was annoyed by this when I moved to WM6 too.
Doesn't this help?
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Hermes/WMXL_Support_Files/WMXL_Patch_Memory_&_HSDPA_Icon.CAB
"Recommended - Sets the memory cache to Auto and adds the HSDPA icon in registry file"
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Thanks for that, but unfortunately it doesn't work, i'm still stuck looking at the disgusting 3G icon.
I don't know why it annoys me so much lol, I think i'm just so used to looking at the "U".
Andy4life said:
Thanks for that, but unfortunately it doesn't work, i'm still stuck looking at the disgusting 3G icon.
I don't know why it annoys me so much lol, I think i'm just so used to looking at the "U".
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I don't see what's wrong with the 3G icon...I think it looks more beautiful than the just the U icon. After all.....it's called 3G technology...which is a simpler name instead of the technical name.
My experiences:
LVSW first version gives a nice looking 3G icon when I've got UMTS coverage. When HSDPA is used, it show the 'H' icon (only when connected!).
However, the second LVSW version shows a 'stretched' 3G icon.
Is this also fixed by the cab file mentioned earlier?
Andy4life said:
Thanks for that, but unfortunately it doesn't work, i'm still stuck looking at the disgusting 3G icon.
I don't know why it annoys me so much lol, I think i'm just so used to looking at the "U".
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I looked for a solution to the ugly 3g icon too, but i think i gave up pretty fast. so iv'e learned to live with it, somehow. but i still want the "U"
hi,
do a search for shogun_Uicon.cab,that should take care of U probem...
after that do a registry hack for H icon and u r set to go....
hope it works
Hey all,
I installed the LVSW ROM onto my iMate. I've had the same problem mentioned here before (not displaying as UMTS)...
I think the reason for it is quite simple, at least for the Telstra users.
NextG nextwork is counted as a normal 3G network.. not as a UMTS network. The original WM5 rom that was supplied might have had some sort of hack in place for us JasJam users...
Anyways, now I actually get a HSDPA logo on my phone, letting me know about speeds...
*shrugs*
The TEST WWE AKU 3.3 Full ROM that I was given to test displayed the connection as follows:
G GPRS
U 3G
H HSDPA
I never saw an E as we don't have Edge in our area.
I changed the U display to read 3G with a posted registry hack.
The G correctly displays GPRS network
The 3G correctly displays 3G or UMTS
The H correctly displays when a data package is sent or received.
Maybe this information can lead you in the right direction with the WM6 os.
Cheers
Related
I've seen in my TyTN, WM6, radio 1.34 a (strange?) behaviour. I noticed with VODAFONE : I have a plain UMTS connection 3g icon and 3g data connection alive, used for push e-mail.
When I am in HSDPA area and data connection starts data transfer, I see a switch between 3G and H connection, then revert after 1-2 seconds ad the end of data transver back in UMTS mode.
Hypotesis:
1) Could be a simple WM6 LVSW edition bug
2) Could be a WM6 feature (HSDPA has well known problems in voice phone avaliability when active)
3) Could be a Vodafone Network feature, HSDPA onli when needed
4) 1.34 radio compatibility problem/feature?
5) ......
6) I am stupid and this is a well known fact
Question:
Any other wm6 user noticed same behaviour?
It has always worked like this, HSDPA is ON when you need it, not all the time.
thats part of the design, saving resources for the network.
elivne said:
It has always worked like this, HSDPA is ON when you need it, not all the time.
thats part of the design, saving resources for the network.
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This isn't working this way for all mobile phone providers in Italy, with TIM if you are in HSDPA area it will stay connected... and you're off-line if someone calls
May be we discovered why isn't enabled as DEFAULT setting and we need to enable using SetHSDPA.exe
sergiopi said:
This isn't working this way for all mobile phone providers in Italy, with TIM if you are in HSDPA area it will stay connected... and you're off-line if someone calls
May be we discovered why isn't enabled as DEFAULT setting and we need to enable using SetHSDPA.exe
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Ditto in Australia. If im connected to GPRS, the icon is permanently showing HSDPA... unless of course i only have GSM coverage (very rare!!).
In Taipei, it works exactly as elivne says... H only when needed.
Cheers
FWIW, I didn't experience proper "throttling" in and out of HSDPA mode until I upgraded to WM6 and radio 1.38 (not sure which to thank for it). Prior to that whenever I was in H coverage, the radio would run almost exclusively in H mode. Talk about battery drain! Currently I can run for almost 2 days between charges (and that's with push mail).
How a particular combination performs for you must depend a lot on the carrier, your locale, etc. Took a lot of "trial and error" for me.
Yep, I'm on UK T-Mobile, and my icon only switches from "3G" to "H" when it's active.
As vp3G says, it noticably saves battery power from the old "permanent HSDPA" behaviour. Although I can't claim to get 2 days usage out of mine.
It is a network feature. If you are inactive on HSDPA for t sec the network will downswitch you to UMTS ( called R99 ). Only 10 users can use the HSDPA at the same time and there is an inactivity timer ( t=10 sec) try to manage the traffic by moving inactive users to R99 ( max speed 384 kbps)
Thank you for sharing your knowlege Austin Boy....
..."and that's the way it is"
Cheers
austin_boy said:
Only 10 users can use the HSDPA at the same time and there is an inactivity timer ( t=10 sec) try to manage the traffic by moving inactive users to R99 ( max speed 384 kbps)
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Really only 10 simultaneous users? Seems like the odds of getting a timeslice when you need it would be virtually nil.
The 10 limitation can be increased by any operator by adding Channel elements (Radios) or more when adding another carrier ( frequency). Europe has more spectrum than the US and it is possible to get two carriers ( 2x5MHz) and use one for speech and the other for data. In the US we are sharing the spectrum between GSM and UMTS. AT&T will be migrating GSM to UMTS gradually and using the 850 band for UMTS before moving to LTE (4G)
sub69 said:
Yep, I'm on UK T-Mobile, and my icon only switches from "3G" to "H" when it's active.
As vp3G says, it noticably saves battery power from the old "permanent HSDPA" behaviour. Although I can't claim to get 2 days usage out of mine.
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I have a similar switching scenario.
Prior to flashing my Radio to 1.38.00.10 and ROM to Black 2.0 I tested my download speed at www.dslreports/mspeed and was please to see I got almost a 1Mb/sec rating.
However since the flashes I have re-tested and am now only getting 250-300 kb/sec. It may be the network, so I will try on a few separate occasions and different locations.
NB. I have enabled HSDPA in HTweaksC
I noticed during the test that the download bar jumps staright up immediately but then slows down quite a lot?
sergiopi said:
I've seen in my TyTN, WM6, radio 1.34 a (strange?) behaviour. I noticed with VODAFONE : I have a plain UMTS connection 3g icon and 3g data connection alive, used for push e-mail.
When I am in HSDPA area and data connection starts data transfer, I see a switch between 3G and H connection, then revert after 1-2 seconds ad the end of data transver back in UMTS mode.
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3 ITA is working same way.
Enabling HSDPA only when there is data transfer active.
Okay tried again on my commute home, and also when I got to my house.
Speed is looking good ! getting up above the 1mb/sec rate again.
Must have just been a busy cell/network
ok... i have a spv m3100 with black 3.0.1 wich is suposed to be HSDPA enabled... i have also enabled it in the tweaker.... today for the first time i have seen the icon H... in my area there is no HSDPA coverege... none... but i read today that untill the end of the year they are trying to cover it... and i was thinking that they are already making tests... i tested my speed at http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest/ and i had a 145 kilobits per second speed... wich as far as i know it is similar to 3g... i disabled the HSDPA and tried a few times in 3g... the speed was 135 kb/s... to small the difference...
so... my question... what is the tweaker doing?... enableing HSDPA or just replacing the 3g icon with the H icon?
no one???
what is the tweaker doing?... enable HSDPA or just replacing the 3g icon with the H icon?
Afternoon guys,
I just got my Touch Pro 2 Delivered today on Vodafone!! So far, it's ok. It's replacing my Sony Ericsson Xperia X1.
A couple of gripes are the lack of a D pad for navigation, so you have to really rely on the touch screen (unless you pull the keyboard out).
A quick question, according to the spec it has HSDPA, but the icon on the taskbar at the top of the display only says "3G+" instead of "H" for HSDPA, as has been displayed on my TyTn2 and Xperia. Is that normal, or do I need to activate it somewhere first?
Any help would be appreciated, oh and how to get rid of the horrid Vodafone theme!!!
Thanks
I've never seen H displayed on mine either!
The best bet for the theme so far is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527644
It's not perfect, but better
get H fairly frequently (vodafone live in london)
Cheers.
It's strange that you have the "H" in London...I'm in Reading and I've always had it before, but not with the Rhodium.
On the Xperia, there was a specific option to turn it on, but I cant find such a thing on this phone. Am I doing something wrong?
I've got one and am on tmobile and nearly always have H
oh and you can turn hsdpa and hsupa on and off in settings->all-settings->connection->advanced
[email protected] said:
I've got one and am on tmobile and nearly always have H
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ye same i have the H whenever i go to any town, shame where my girlfirend lives and both my jobs are t-mobile has no signal at all
[email protected] said:
oh and you can turn hsdpa and hsupa on and off in settings->all-settings->connection->advanced
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I also have a T-mobile sim and never had the H on my Vodafone Touch pro 2 which I've always had on my Tytn 11. the Settings>connectiond>advanced tab did not work. Wish i knew what was going on...
Just wondering if you have used advanced config 3.3 to see if the icon is enabled? Just a thought.
Dont worry man. 3G+ is HSDPA. All it is is just a different icon to the H you say on other devices.
Still exactly the same speed etc.
I get the 3G icon when it's just idling. As soon as I start to pull data it instantly switches to the 'H' icon. It's no biggie. Im on an unlocked HTC TP2 with Voda SIM btw, N. London/Herts region.
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Dont worry man. 3G+ is HSDPA. All it is is just a different icon to the H you say on other devices.
Still exactly the same speed etc.
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I believe you are right. It is just an Icon. an internet search turned up results supporting this.
I just purchased T-Mobile's version of the Touch Pro 2 about a week ago. I moved from AT&T and the TyTN II.
On the TyTN II, whenever I was on HSDPA, the connection icon would display an H. On my Touch Pro 2, I only ever see a "3G" icon. However, my connection settings are set to use HSDPA/HSUPA. I have unlimited web service, for what's it's worth.
Is this normal? Am I in fact getting HSDPA service? If not, is it a registry fix? Is there anyway to check for sure what protocol I'm connected with?
I would like to know that as well, Its normal same thing on my tmo tp2
I see the "H" symbol, but only when actively downloading data. It switches back and forth which I think is a good thing. No problems on this end running the stock T-Mo ROM
yeah I kept getting the 3G icon too, but after i put on tsowen's taskbar, now I get the H & i don't think i've seen the 3G at all.
xnifex said:
yeah I kept getting the 3G icon too, but after i put on tsowen's taskbar, now I get the H & i don't think i've seen the 3G at all.
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I have only seen the H icon after installing a custom taskbar as well. I'm not sure if it just replaced the 3G icon right out or if it is correctly displaying it.
My g1 displayed 3g when i had the t-mobile firmware on it. When i put a different one, H or something was displayed. The tp2 i have is the same way. I put a different firmware on it and it went from 3g to H now. I am not using the t-mobile firmware but one of the 6.5 roms. I would bet t-mobile put the 3g icon on purpose.
H and 3G are the same thing on the phone. It just depends on what your ROM is setup to show it as.
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H and 3G are the same thing on the phone. It just depends on what your ROM is setup to show it as.
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they are not the same:
3G = 364 Kbps
HSDPA (3.5G) = 1.5-3 Mbps
i get at least 650kbps with 3G only icon. So i think im on the H
xnifex said:
they are not the same:
3G = 364 Kbps
HSDPA (3.5G) = 1.5-3 Mbps
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I was referring to the phone just showing 3G or H not the actual speeds.
I'm in the same boat as you guys. When I was on the stock ROM I only saw 3G with 2 bars and this was at my house. Now that I'm on a cooked ROM, I see H all the time with my 2 bars at my house. I only get the H when I'm at home, but when I'm at work I get 3G with full bars. I don't even have the option to use HSDPA checked, I have it unchecked in the options.
I'm sure the H has to do with the cooked ROMs or custom taskbars. Idk!
I searched around and only found this one thread addressing this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5175804
The instructions didn't help me, as I don't have the same ROM as the poster.
I know that I am under 3G here in Columbia, SC, so I am not concerned about coverage. I am running Josh's Perfect Black 1.7 ROM. Can anyone shed some light on how to change the icon back to 3G from it's present H?
From what i understand "H" is the same as "3G". also here is a link to a post where they dicuss it a bit more if you want read some more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=456072
I am with AT&T. My request is simply one of preference. I just want it to say 3G.
Thanks for the informative link, however, I'm not overly concerned with speed.
Check out this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4701722&postcount=1
It shows the default settings for the two registry entries that control the "3G" or "H" icon in the taskbar. The default settings should give you the 3G icon. Make the registry changes then soft reset the phone.
I have a Tele2 sim, which uses Netcom's network, in turn causes my phone to roam at all times, which is normal for how things are here. The problem is that the Roaming sign by the signal bars replace the speed-signs, so I don't know if I'm using Edge, 3G or HSPDA... Except for going into the settings, about phone and checking the status there.
The Galaxy S I had showed the speed and traffic with another icon besides the signal bars, so it had it sorted.
So, I want to replace the R-sign with the speed sign, in short.
tele2
i don't know if you solved your problem, but i am curious if you have.
here's the thing: a friend of mine has just as i have a prime, i am rocking vodafone he is using tele2. my vodafone card works in both, a kpn sim works in both... his tele2 works just in mine in his phone it just shows the R as in roaming on top of the range bar and nothing else.
Now is that particalur issue not the main problem...though it tells me something now: the main problem is that on his phone, just showing the R it refuses to go on the internet through 3g or H or whatever, besides wifi of course.
Anybody got a clue on what might be the issue?
thnx in advance
mstrandbo said:
I have a Tele2 sim, which uses Netcom's network, in turn causes my phone to roam at all times, which is normal for how things are here. The problem is that the Roaming sign by the signal bars replace the speed-signs, so I don't know if I'm using Edge, 3G or HSPDA... Except for going into the settings, about phone and checking the status there.
The Galaxy S I had showed the speed and traffic with another icon besides the signal bars, so it had it sorted.
So, I want to replace the R-sign with the speed sign, in short.
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If you're rooted you can replace the icon. Its in the SystemUI apk @ /res/drawable-xhdpi
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sherlock1 said:
i don't know if you solved your problem, but i am curious if you have.
here's the thing: a friend of mine has just as i have a prime, i am rocking vodafone he is using tele2. my vodafone card works in both, a kpn sim works in both... his tele2 works just in mine in his phone it just shows the R as in roaming on top of the range bar and nothing else.
Now is that particalur issue not the main problem...though it tells me something now: the main problem is that on his phone, just showing the R it refuses to go on the internet through 3g or H or whatever, besides wifi of course.
Anybody got a clue on what might be the issue?
thnx in advance
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The R is the symbol for roaming, the apn settings are probably wrong.
/Edit: After a little research (google) it seems the problem is because Tele2 uses the networks of Netcom and Telenor where they do not have coverage themselves.
Don't worry though, the Roaming charges is not "international" charges. So you will not be skinned to the bone from your phone company.
Only fix is to change operator.
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Herman76 said:
The R is the symbol for roaming, the apn settings are probably wrong.
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we don't know...tele2 doesn't know...we tried everything in every way possible...it's too weird...propably something simple you wouldn't think of....
Did you try checking the option that allows data connections while roaming? That's off by default of course in stock android.
my ADP1 (1.x android) had a big fat warning that "data connection was lost because of roaming" Not sure what ICS displays in that case...
I'm in the Netherlands and also on Tele2 and have the same issue. Because here Tele2 uses T-Mobile masts, I have to have international roaming turned on or I get no data, regardless of APN, so my phone thinks I'm roaming all the time.
The same is true for my other family members who are on Android and Tele2, but I'm the only one with ICS. Even though our phones all need to be set to international roaming, we are not billed as roaming.
No answer for you, just hoping for a solution without having to root (because I don't want to yet )
Same goes for me. I'm with Telfort (Netherlands), which uses KPN network. I've already tried installing different modem, but that doesn't seem to help.
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If you're rooted you can replace the icon. Its in the SystemUI apk @ /res/drawable-xhdpi
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This sounds promising to me, but I actually don't understand anything of it. Could you explain?
It's good to see there are more people with this particular problem, in different countries too. Hopefully someone will come up with a solution soon. Even if you don't have this problem, why wouldn't you want to see you connection speed travelling abroad?
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Same goes for me. I'm with Telfort (Netherlands), which uses KPN network. I've already tried installing different modem, but that doesn't seem to help.
This sounds promising to me, but I actually don't understand anything of it. Could you explain?
It's good to see there are more people with this particular problem, in different countries too. Hopefully someone will come up with a solution soon. Even if you don't have this problem, why wouldn't you want to see you connection speed travelling abroad?
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OK, i understand what you mean now! I copied systemUI.apk from system/app folder (upload with dropbox, quite easy), changed .apk to .zip and got all the .png files from the res folder in the apk.
Then it turns out there are very neat little icons with corresponding file names. There are files for G, 3G, E, H and 4G connection speeds. And there is a 'R' for roaming file. Off course i could change that png to, lets say, the H icon. But then i still won't be able to see my connection speed right? I will just always see an H icon, since i'm always roaming.
What i am, and supposedly others are, looking for is the place with the settings for these icons. I would like to tell my phone that even when roaming, i just want to see an icon which displays the connection speed, not the fact that i'm roaming.
Little off topic: what is the difference between blue and gray icon colors?
Thanks!
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I am feeling very stupid. Turns out that the solution is very simple, I just had to change a very normal setting. Go to: system settings/more (under wireless and networks)/mobile networks (or in Dutch: systeeminstellingen/meer (onder draadloos en netwerken)/mobiele netwerken). Turn off (data?) roaming (NL: gegevensroaming) en turn on national data roaming (NL: same, since it's not translated). Maybe do a short flight mode, and voilà, you can see you network speeds!
Nice one, it wouldn't have occurred to me...I expected to have to live with it until my contract ends in a few months.
Definitely not using Tele2 for much longer...everyone in my house is having I issues with texts not arriving, regardless of handset.
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Good luck with a different provider, but don't go with Telfort than!