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So it seems like my (US) TP2 is not getting very good reception at all. Internet sluggishly putters along and i rarely get above 3 bars. My old tilt had far better reception than this phone in the same areas im comparing them to now. Should I take my phone back to ATT and get a new one? or are the US att tilts just prone to poor reception? If so, any way to rectify this or boost my signal?
edit: Also phone seems to be very sluggish at times and needs soft resets quite a bit.. is this a problem with the stock ROM or is there a way to free up some memory by removing some hidden background programs that are pointless?
i think its the phone because on my tmobile tp2 i know of 1 dead zone where my mom gets no service at all with her phone and neither did i with my lg vu but since i got this phone i get 1-2 bars. did u flash the radio or anything?
USCC version works Great!
I don't know if it is the equipment fully. I have the USCC version of the TP2, and I gotta tell you. with my first TP I got 1 bar of signal. My ex, has a regular phone and she gets 2 bars. But When I sit in the living room here, I get four bars. I have better signal with the Tp2 than I have had with any other phone. I have been highly impressed with the signal so far.
I have my RHOD300 (Tilt2) on AT&T's network running Radio 4.49.25.17, and I've never had a better connection than on this phone. On my original Tilt, I only got a few bars and EDGE at my house, but with the radio listed above on my Rhodium, I get HSDPA at my house and everywhere else, and with 3 or 4 bars.
Also, carrier ROMs suck. That's why a good majority of the people here flash cooked ROMs. Most of the time, stock ROMs are completely bloated to the point where the device is notably slowed. Cooked ROMs, on the other hand, focus more on performance than free trials of crappy J2ME games and as a result are much faster. Flashing a new radio may also help with reception. As myself and many others have concluded, 4.49.25.17 is an excellent radio for most people.
However, if you don't want to flash a cooked ROM, then you might want to try this instead. That link tells how to manually remove all the AT&T crap they put on those devices, and should provide a little performance boost as well as some extra storage space.
I'm using the stock ROM on a Tilt 2 and the reception is the best of any phone I've had. (LOTS better than my wife's Nokia 5800...) The phone was a bit sluggish out of the box, but after applying the tweaks in the tweak threads, I'm very happy with the phone. Disabling Push internet helped a lot, as well as the Opera tweaks. The GPS tweaks are essential with this phone. Out of the box the GPS is really crappy. With the tweaks applied it works pretty good. Just look for the two tweak threads. One is a sticky in this sub forum. The other is the tweak thread specifically for the Tilt 2 version, and is not a sticky. (But it should be! )
The reception on this phone is like doubled compard to my Fuze. It used to be about every 20 minutes or so I'd lose reception at my desk but now it happens once a day max.
That depends on your mobile carrier and the area you live in
I had the original Tilt for a year then the Fuze for a year and now the Tilt 2 for the last month. Overall the Tilt 2 reception is at least as good as the other two. But I never had problems with the reception on any of them.
As others I get great reception on my Tilt2. However I've noticed AT&T's network get slower and slower over the last few months. Try seeing if you get the same sluggishness when you use a WiFi connection.
As far as the software itself, I was going to stick with the stock ROM for at least a week or two but performance was so bad that I switched to a custom rom. Absolutely worth it, the device runs so much smoother without all the AT&T bloat.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I have my RHOD300 (Tilt2) on AT&T's network running Radio 4.49.25.17, and I've never had a better connection than on this phone. On my original Tilt, I only got a few bars and EDGE at my house, but with the radio listed above on my Rhodium, I get HSDPA at my house and everywhere else, and with 3 or 4 bars.
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I have att also, do you have a link to that radio cause mine is 4.48.25.20 and would love to see if version would work better as far as reception. I live in south jersey, and the 3G network is near dead with the flood of Iphones sucking up all the bandwidth, but my bars are always changing from 0-3 at least 3 or 4 times every 30 seconds.
AngelDeath said:
I have att also, do you have a link to that radio cause mine is 4.48.25.20 and would love to see if version would work better as far as reception. I live in south jersey, and the 3G network is near dead with the flood of Iphones sucking up all the bandwidth, but my bars are always changing from 0-3 at least 3 or 4 times every 30 seconds.
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lol, I know what you mean, here's a link to 4.49.25.17. All other known Rhodium radios can be found here. Hope that helps
Ok seems as though I am going to be needing to flash to a cooked ROM my only fear is bricking my phone since i am a complete noob to flashing anything my tilt1 went 2+ years and i didnt put a thing on it! so it looks like i will look into the different radio option as well as cleaning up the ATT programs that are taking up space unti i gather up the strength to hopefully not brick my tilt!
Edit: Downloaded the newer radio version, how do i go about installing this? I unpack the rar and am left with a rhodium custom RUU executable?
also how do i upgrade the GPS? Google maps and trapster are somewhat useless since its so slow to pan through it effectively and timely
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Tbeta64 said:
Ok seems as though I am going to be needing to flash to a cooked ROM my only fear is bricking my phone since i am a complete noob to flashing anything my tilt1 went 2+ years and i didnt put a thing on it! so it looks like i will look into the different radio option as well as cleaning up the ATT programs that are taking up space unti i gather up the strength to hopefully not brick my tilt!
Edit: Downloaded the newer radio version, how do i go about installing this? I unpack the rar and am left with a rhodium custom RUU executable?
also how do i upgrade the GPS? Google maps and trapster are somewhat useless since its so slow to pan through it effectively and timely
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To flash a new radio, here's what you need to do: You should have an EXE called CustomRUU and an NBH file called either RUU_SIGNED.NBH or RHODIMG.NBH. Connect your device via USB, wait until ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center recognizes your device, and then run CustomRUU.exe. If you get an antivirus warning, ignore it. Follow the instructions that CustomRUU.exe gives you, and you should be fine. If flashing a new radio doesn't work for some reason, you might need HardSPL. I don't think you need HardSPL for signed radio installs, but I'm not 100% sure.
The GPS is controlled by the Radio, so changing to another radio may help with this. I recommend using QuickGPS if it is included in your phone's ROM, as well as downloading Schap's Advanced Config and enabling AGPS under the GPS options in Advanced Config.
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Thanx for pointing me to the radio, I installed it, and someone found the hack to shutoff the 3G band since 3G is dead here as I said, and the 2G signal is amazing, I consistently 85% of the time have 5 bars, I've never had that with my fuze, in 3G or 2G, so happy that my battery isnt being drained anymore because of the bouncing between 2G and 3G.
I installed the latest radio (ending in .57 I think) on my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 and my EDGE signal couldn't be any better! My neighborhood is a "Fair" patch on the map but now I easily get 3 bars inside when making calls, sometimes I see one bar but it's usually 2-3 bars vs 1-2. Idle I can get 4 but once you place a call it goes back down to 3.
If I don't miss remember upon upgrade to JB on my yakyu device, my GN experiences a very low signal from any wifi APs, testing with different android devices from friends, my GN measures the weakest wifi signal of them all, is this a problem with the device itself, had anyone experience anything similar?
Thanks in advance
For me, the measured signal _seems_ to be worse then on ICS (it shows less bars). Would need to check with WiFi Analyzer or similiar but TBH, I didn't notice connectivity problems compared to ICS.
I do here, and the problem as I see it is not the wifi signal/power itself is the quality/sensitivity on the GN receiver, since other devices measures at least one or two bars where mine don't.
And to this date, I keep noticing more and more problems in the JB GN, shouldn't the so-called Google flagship device have more updates/corrections/support from google itself? I'm starting to regret having bought this device.
ironhalik said:
For me, the measured signal _seems_ to be worse then on ICS (it shows less bars). Would need to check with WiFi Analyzer or similiar but TBH, I didn't notice connectivity problems compared to ICS.
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SpecRek9 said:
I do here, and the problem as I see it is not the wifi signal/power itself is the quality/sensitivity on the GN receiver, since other devices measures at least one or two bars where mine don't.
And to this date, I keep noticing more and more problems in the JB GN, shouldn't the so-called Google flagship device have more updates/corrections/support from google itself? I'm starting to regret having bought this device.
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Not everyone has this issue. My WiFi signal strength, connection quality, connection stability, and speeds all remained the same on 4.1.1.
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Hi, noticing that my 5x signal indicator will drop to the equivalent of zero bars -110 dBm 99asu. This is happening in my apartment that is known to have bad reception. My old note 3 always had problems, my gf's oneplus one on tmobile does the same thing. So I understand that my apartment isn't the best for maintaining good reception.
I did think however that me losing reception on my note 3 was due to lack of updating my phone and also being on a crappy ROM. I believed my gf's issues were just do the poor quality control of oneplus. I figured this was the issue after trying out the Moto X pure (2015) in my apartment recently, and it hasn't dropped signal like any of the phones mentioned above. So my experience with Moto X made me think that other phones were just faulty/old.
Then I got the nexus 5x to try out, and I started to experience the exact same loss of signal as the note 3 and oneplus. I've fiddled with APN settings--matched them exactly to the moto pure and so on--and flashed to newest system image, but still experienced that connection loss.
In addition to this, while driving around I noticed that the 5x was often dropping to 3g and taking a while to get back to LTE. While trying out the Moto X, I didn't notice this at all. And after comparing the cellular network signal graph in the battery section, my observations matched. The moto x had way better reception throughout the day.
My question then is, is anyone else noticing/having this issue? Are nexus phones known for having poor radios/signal? Any suggestions? Should I try returning and buying another? RMA?
I like the 5x much more than the pure (not having any battery issue), but it seems silly to keep it if its a worse functioning phone.
What build number are you on it seems like the current build is fixing this issue for people. I'm gonna bet your on MDA89E which is not the newest build.
I'm on mdb80i. I was on build you mentioned, and thought flashing newest would fix my problem but it didn't.
On another note, I tried surfing web while supposedly having no bars (~115dBm 99 asu) and websites loaded just fine. I also tried calling while supposedly had no signal but I was able to get call through. So not sure what is going on when losing bars
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What build number are you on it seems like the current build is fixing this issue for people. I'm gonna bet your on MDA89E which is not the newest build.
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Hello. Is Wifi good in this phone fast and stable? What about gps? Is it accurate? Have you encountered any issues? I'm not confident making a move, i hear there are many complaints about signal issues in this phone
HTCGUY89 said:
Hello. Is Wifi good in this phone fast and stable? What about gps? Is it accurate? Have you encountered any issues? I'm not confident making a move, i hear there are many complaints about signal issues in this phone
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Hello,
Some suffer issues others don't...
I have seen several people suffering of slow speeds on WiFi.
Also someone having a GPS which doesn't lock here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/gps-locking-available-satellites-t3602047
Mine locks in a few seconds and really accurate.
Talking about cell reception, i have a bad signal in my town. My provider doesn't have much cell towers here. But it performs just like my previous Nexus 6P, Nexus 6, HTC ONE, etc...
I have none of the issues you are talking about by the way. I used to have a Bluetooth battery drain while connected to my Volkswagen mk6 Golf, which seems to be solved since 7.1.2.
Cheers...
Wifi is good. GPS is good. Phone is still fast but meh.
Zero connectivity issues for me with WiFi, GPS, and cellular. All have been stellar.
Bluetooth is the only thing that has trouble sometimes, and is the most common connectivity complaint among Pixel/XL users. Seems to be external device dependent in my experience as it works fine with most bluetooth devices I've tried, but cuts in and out from time to time with others (my car bluetooth and 1 pair of old headphones).
No issues here.
Didn't see a thread covering this, so I figured I'd start one.
One issue that has plagued my Pixel 2XL is severely diminished LTE signal strength on Android 10. I first encountered this on beta 5, and again on beta 6. My signal dbm's were 10-15 less than on Pie, and the signal indicator was rarely, if ever, above 1 bar. My signal would fluctuate wildly based on location, and would rarely hold steady. Speed tests confirmed things. Extremely frustrating. It was such a problem that I eventually opted out of the beta program and rolled back to Pie before the official release of Android 10. Since then my signal strength has returned to normal and been steady and solid. I have not updated to official Android 10 yet, and keep hoping that this issue will be resolved through a monthly security patch. So far, from what I have been able to gather, this issue has not been fixed. There are several different threads covering this issue, as well as official issue tracker threads with Google:
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13566467?hl=en
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/141578664#comment86
https://forums.androidcentral.com/g...237-low-signal-quality-after-10-update-2.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...el_3_weak_signal_on_verizon_after_android_10/
I am having this issue on my 2XL, on AT&T, however this issue persists across devices and carriers, and doesn't seem to discriminate. As with most things though, there are plenty of folks who say they are not effected by this in the least.
So my question here is this:
Has anyone noticed a decrease in signal strength on Android 10 on the Pixel 2XL?
LTE? 3G? WiFi?
Fluctuating signal? Dropped calls? Poor data speeds?
I'd really love to update to 10, and the latest December patch, but am extremely hesitant to do so, based on what I have personally experienced and read in the above threads.
Any input, opinions, personal anecdotes are welcome. Thanks in advance.
I haven't had any issues with LTE signal as you described, but I have had problems with WiFi signal regularly dropping. After some research, I found that the issue was with Android and my router which puts out a 5ghz and 2.4ghz signal - Android 10 would drop the signal when switching between the two. My solution for home was to turn off the 5ghz channel on my router and my issues with WiFi went away.
I don't use WiFi away from home frequently enough to see if this signal issue has persisted on other connections, hoping for a fix in the December security patch.
I am running Android 10, rooted with Magisk. Clean installed about two weeks ago and the issue was apparent from the get-go. Never had anything like this in Pie.
I can't say for sure on the LTE side as I never checked numbers prior to updating to A10B5, however signal strength barely shows on the indicator. Tower is 4 blocks away. My wifi is terrible and there appear many variations across Pixels. No solutions here but appears to be a widespread problem. FYI.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13670154?hl=en
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/android-10-broke-wifi-t3965367
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I haven't had any issues with LTE signal as you described, but I have had problems with WiFi signal regularly dropping. After some research, I found that the issue was with Android and my router which puts out a 5ghz and 2.4ghz signal - Android 10 would drop the signal when switching between the two. My solution for home was to turn off the 5ghz channel on my router and my issues with WiFi went away.
I don't use WiFi away from home frequently enough to see if this signal issue has persisted on other connections, hoping for a fix in the December security patch.
I am running Android 10, rooted with Magisk. Clean installed about two weeks ago and the issue was apparent from the get-go. Never had anything like this in Pie.
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Last night, I received and flashed the OTA update. I went into my home route and turned on the 5ghz channel again and the WiFi issue immediately returned for me. So, sadly no fix in the December patch and at least in my experience, this is limited to 5ghz connections. For now, I've reverted by home WiFi back to 2.4ghz and it's working fine.
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UPDATE:
Last night, I received and flashed the OTA update. I went into my home route and turned on the 5ghz channel again and the WiFi issue immediately returned for me. So, sadly no fix in the December patch and at least in my experience, this is limited to 5ghz connections. For now, I've reverted by home WiFi back to 2.4ghz and it's working fine.
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Thanks for the update on the WiFi side of things. Sucks that that hasn't been fixed yet, after months of it being a known issue.
Just out of curiosity, how is your LTE signal strength on the December update? Dbm's and signal bars appear to be normal? Any dropped calls or slower than usual data speeds?
The WiFi issue sucks, but at least it can be worked around for now. There is no substituting for poor signal and connectivity though, and that is still a deal breaker for me moving forward.
Thanks in advance for any input, I appreciate it.
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Thanks for the update on the WiFi side of things. Sucks that that hasn't been fixed yet, after months of it being a known issue.
Just out of curiosity, how is your LTE signal strength on the December update? Dbm's and signal bars appear to be normal? Any dropped calls or slower than usual data speeds?
The WiFi issue sucks, but at least it can be worked around for now. There is no substituting for poor signal and connectivity though, and that is still a deal breaker for me moving forward.
Thanks in advance for any input, I appreciate it.
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If there has been a change with my LTE signal strength, I certainly don't notice it. I haven't had any dropped calls or slow data speeds.
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If there has been a change with my LTE signal strength, I certainly don't notice it. I haven't had any dropped calls or slow data speeds.
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Thanks, good to know. Not to beat a dead horse here, but in general, do you notice less signal bars on 10 than previously on Pie? On the betas, I rarely showed more than 1 bar at any given time, and dbm's were less across the board as well. Frustrating. I realize bars don't mean everything, obviously, and the only way to truly measure signal strength is by looking at the actual dbm's. Maybe something in the Android 10 code changed the way signal bars are calculated relative to dbm's?
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Thanks, good to know. Not to beat a dead horse here, but in general, do you notice less signal bars on 10 than previously on Pie? On the betas, I rarely showed more than 1 bar at any given time, and dbm's were less across the board as well. Frustrating. I realize bars don't mean everything, obviously, and the only way to truly measure signal strength is by looking at the actual dbm's. Maybe something in the Android 10 code changed the way signal bars are calculated relative to dbm's?
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No, I haven't noticed a change in bars or dbm's since the update. I live in the city and so my service signal has always been strong - no change since upgrading to 10. I should note that I didn't update to 10 until about a week or so ago and when I did, I did a clean flash and then rooted with Magisk. I have since updated to the December security patch, again with no change to my cellular signal.
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No, I haven't noticed a change in bars or dbm's since the update. I live in the city and so my service signal has always been strong - no change since upgrading to 10. I should note that I didn't update to 10 until about a week or so ago and when I did, I did a clean flash and then rooted with Magisk. I have since updated to the December security patch, again with no change to my cellular signal.
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Thanks, appreciate the responses. It's actually good to hear that things are normal on your end. Sometimes it's easy to get caught up in the complaints, and in the process not hear about those who have no issues at all. So strange how this bug seems to randomly effect people, across carriers and various Pixel devices. Some are majorly effected, some not at all. Would love to update, but it's a roll of the dice that I'm not sure I'm willing to take.
I’m wondering, why can’t/don’t you merely update to 10, try it out and see how things go for about a week, and if it’s not a good experience for you, merely roll-back using the Full Factory Pie/9 image?
In any case, I am under Verizon and haven’t noticed any lowering of network signal or performance. I do experience some need to re-initialize the wifi – but, to be fair, I had that issue in Pie – but maybe not as frequent.
Either way, many/most have a good enough positive experience that it’s simply at least worth a try; at least on a temporary basis. But, again either way, good luck and hope this helps…
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I’m wondering, why can’t/don’t you merely update to 10, try it out and see how things go for about a week, and if it’s not a good experience for you, merely roll-back using the Full Factory Pie/9 image?
In any case, I am under Verizon and haven’t noticed any lowering of network signal or performance. I do experience some need to re-initialize the wifi – but, to be fair, I had that issue in Pie – but maybe not as frequent.
Either way, many/most have a good enough positive experience that it’s simply at least worth a try; at least on a temporary basis. But, again either way, good luck and hope this helps…
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Thanks for the response, I appreciate it. I am probably one of the few Pixel owners out there who are still running completely stock and unrooted, and I also never bothered to unlock the bootloader. So needless to say, having the ability/option to flash back to the factory image for PIe, should things go sideways, would take some work. I'll probably update at some point, but I have had literally zero issues on PIe. It runs flawlessly for me, and always has, so the thought of introducing potential problems makes me a bit hesitant. Just wanted to try to see how widespread this signal issue was., that's all.