If I don't miss remember upon upgrade to JB on my yakyu device, my GN experiences a very low signal from any wifi APs, testing with different android devices from friends, my GN measures the weakest wifi signal of them all, is this a problem with the device itself, had anyone experience anything similar?
Thanks in advance
For me, the measured signal _seems_ to be worse then on ICS (it shows less bars). Would need to check with WiFi Analyzer or similiar but TBH, I didn't notice connectivity problems compared to ICS.
I do here, and the problem as I see it is not the wifi signal/power itself is the quality/sensitivity on the GN receiver, since other devices measures at least one or two bars where mine don't.
And to this date, I keep noticing more and more problems in the JB GN, shouldn't the so-called Google flagship device have more updates/corrections/support from google itself? I'm starting to regret having bought this device.
ironhalik said:
For me, the measured signal _seems_ to be worse then on ICS (it shows less bars). Would need to check with WiFi Analyzer or similiar but TBH, I didn't notice connectivity problems compared to ICS.
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I do here, and the problem as I see it is not the wifi signal/power itself is the quality/sensitivity on the GN receiver, since other devices measures at least one or two bars where mine don't.
And to this date, I keep noticing more and more problems in the JB GN, shouldn't the so-called Google flagship device have more updates/corrections/support from google itself? I'm starting to regret having bought this device.
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Not everyone has this issue. My WiFi signal strength, connection quality, connection stability, and speeds all remained the same on 4.1.1.
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Has anybody else experienced a loss in overall signal quality moving through to more recent firmwares? I remember my signal used to be great when I pulled the phone out of the box just over a month ago, and now its almost total crap.
I'm running vanilla 4.1, not rooted or anything. I did flash the very latest radio to see if it would help but its about the same (XXLF1).
I'm using the US GSM Unlocked Nexus, with AT&T.
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Has anybody else experienced a loss in overall signal quality moving through to more recent firmwares? I remember my signal used to be great when I pulled the phone out of the box just over a month ago, and now its almost total crap.
I'm running vanilla 4.1, not rooted or anything. I did flash the very latest radio to see if it would help but its about the same (XXLF1).
I'm using the US GSM Unlocked Nexus, with AT&T.
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I have the same issue.
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I have the same issue.
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Same here. Could it be hw problem? A lot of people in this thread are saying that when they get their replacement phone everything went fine...
What bother me is the fact that in the beginning it was working fine.... so could it be really an hw detect appearing after a short time??
I am not having luck with Android devices... On my phone the signal strength varies wildly and I get drop outs in places I never did had any issues with my iPhone. To be honest with you there seems to be a problem with the thing switching between towers, it just hangs on to one tower for way too long and then signal drops, then 200m down the road it's back to 3 or 4 bars
Hi,
I've been using JB since the version from io12 was out. Currently I use Bigxie's deodexed 4.1.1 and all is wonderful. Except one thing that is. The wifi signal is weaker than I'm used to from ICS. Especially the wifi range seems worse. Connections that I've used with ICS are now out of range. Some of my friend or family's connections are now very weak and I drop out of range very often. This goes for any JB rom/kernel I've tried.
I've tried several roms, trinity and franco kernels, dirty flashing, full wipe. I've even tried a couple of different basebands, even though I don't think they affect wifi.
So I'm wondering if other GSM GNex users are experiencing the same thing? I've seen a thread with a flashable "poor wifi fix" for the Verizon GNex, but nothing for the GSM version.
Verizon GNex wifi/gps fix:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739097
Any suggestions? Coukd a similar solution like the Verizon fix help?
Best regards,
P
Ok, allow me to explain whats going on with the "fix".
There were some folks who ported the GSM version to Verizon (myself included). However, they failed to use the correct wifi/BT firmware (I did but thats besides the point). They left in the GSM version. So that above fix is merely the bcm4330.hcd firmware and bcmhd.cal calibration file for wifi/BT from 4.0.4 for Verizon. It is not meant to be used for GSM and only applies to those who ported GSM to CDMA. Even with the fix, wifi is weak.
Verizon users currently have a newer version now, specifically for them from Google. However, the weak wifi issue still exists even for us. There are some who have strong wifi routers or are always close to them that do not see the issue, but it does exist for every JB user. Wifi is simply weaker, and BT is fairly janky.
It is a Jellybean specific problem, and I am assuming it will be fixed in time. You could try a 4.0.4 bcm4330.hcd, bcmhd.cal on Jellybean, but I doubt it will help, and it could end up hurting. I am thinking that broadcomm needs to fix these files.
Thanks for the reply and the precise info about the problem and the background for the Verizon fix. Very much appreciated.
I guess I'll have to wait and hope for an update.
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Thanks for the reply and the precise info about the problem and the background for the Verizon fix. Very much appreciated.
I guess I'll have to wait and hope for an update.
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I am right there with you.
Wifi is horrible!
WiFi does kind of blow chunks. WTF.
burhanistan said:
WiFi does kind of blow chunks. WTF.
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The more I think about it, the more I think it can probably be resolved by tweaking the calibration file. However that is a bit beyond my abilities as I don't understand whats contained in it to know what it needs tweaking to.
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I'm not sure why it does this but when I am in my house about 15 feet away from my router I would notice my wifi signal dropping down to 2 bars where my other phone would stay at full strength until I got around 15 yards away.. I decided to see how far I could get away from my router before completely losing signal. I walked a total of about of 30 yards from my router to the edge of my street and stopped every time the signal decreased down to one bar(which was between every 5 or 10 yards)... every time I thought the signal was about to drop out it would return back up to 3 bars after a moment of adjusting. Once I got to my furthest point it dropped out completely and then came back to 1 bar. When I came back inside where I previously had 2 bars I then had full signal throughout the house. I tested this a couple times and it seems that it only uses what it needs. If someone could do a similar experiment to confirm this isn't specific to my router set up I would appreciate it. I also did not notice any drop off in performance in speed from 1 bar to full signal while I was within 20 yards of my router, however, I didn't run a speed test, I just used my youtube app to load a video... I will run some speed test when I get home this evening to get a solid figure on the speed difference. This may not be a bug but a feature to conserve energy to increase battery life.
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I'm not sure why it does this but when I am in my house about 15 feet away from my router I would notice my wifi signal dropping down to 2 bars where my other phone would stay at full strength until I got around 15 yards away.. I decided to see how far I could get away from my router before completely losing signal. I walked a total of about of 30 yards from my router to the edge of my street and stopped every time the signal decreased down to one bar(which was between every 5 or 10 yards)... every time I thought the signal was about to drop out it would return back up to 3 bars after a moment of adjusting. Once I got to my furthest point it dropped out completely and then came back to 1 bar. When I came back inside where I previously had 2 bars I then had full signal throughout the house. I tested this a couple times and it seems that it only uses what it needs. If someone could do a similar experiment to confirm this isn't specific to my router set up I would appreciate it. I also did not notice any drop off in performance in speed from 1 bar to full signal while I was within 20 yards of my router, however, I didn't run a speed test, I just used my youtube app to load a video... I will run some speed test when I get home this evening to get a solid figure on the speed difference. This may not be a bug but a feature to conserve energy to increase battery life.
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A good theory, but I am dropping wifi in some of my rooms. Switching to and fro like that doesn't save power
didnt people have poor performance with their wifi signal on ics? did broadcom leave everything the same of did they change/update drivers for our phones with jb.
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A good theory, but I am dropping wifi in some of my rooms. Switching to and fro like that doesn't save power
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Me too, I only need to move to the next room or so sometimes. The main problem for me is range. The range for me was better with 4.0.x.
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didnt people have poor performance with their wifi signal on ics? did broadcom leave everything the same of did they change/update drivers for our phones with jb.
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ICS wifi performance on the GNex wasn't exactly perfect for me, but it was better than what I get with JB. My router at home is giving me an okay performance and range, but the routers I normally connect to at family and friends are giving me problems since I moved on to JB.
I believe JB does come with new drivers. At least I've read that it does, in other threads.
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didnt people have poor performance with their wifi signal on ics? did broadcom leave everything the same of did they change/update drivers for our phones with jb.
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I had better performance on ICS with WiFi.
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I had better performance on ICS with WiFi.
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Same
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Wi-Fi has been fine for me, but only when using 2.4GHz—5GHz, on the other hand, is horribly broken. If you are using 5GHz, I recommend trying 2.4GHz instead—hopefully Google will have this sorted before the Galaxy Nexus II ships.
you may want to revert back to ICS to verify if the phone hardware is not a problem? otherwise for me I have used both... ICS and JB, and I don't find any difference..
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you may want to revert back to ICS to verify if the phone hardware is not a problem? otherwise for me I have used both... ICS and JB, and I don't find any difference..
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I’ve found 5GHz to be broken on both ICS and JB and this is with more than one phone.
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Wi-Fi has been fine for me, but only when using 2.4GHz—5GHz, on the other hand, is horribly broken. If you are using 5GHz, I recommend trying 2.4GHz instead—hopefully Google will have this sorted before the Galaxy Nexus II ships.
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I'll try 2.4.
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I’ve found 5GHz to be broken on both ICS and JB and this is with more than one phone.
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5 Ghz was fine for me on ICS. It works on JB too, but the range...ugh.
I'm pretty sure it's not hardware related. It's definitely related to JB. It's not a 5 GHz problem either, that's what I use at home on my d-link. Family and friends have both 5 and 2.4 GHz. I'm sure it depends on the quality of the routers also but I didn't have any real range problems with any of them before JB.
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5 Ghz was fine for me on ICS. It works on JB too, but the range...ugh.
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Same here, except my d-link at home, which is kinda okay at 5 GHz.
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I'm pretty sure it's not hardware related. It's definitely related to JB. It's not a 5 GHz problem either, that's what I use at home on my d-link. Family and friends have both 5 and 2.4 GHz. I'm sure it depends on the quality of the routers also but I didn't have any real range problems with any of them before JB.
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2.4 is pretty weak for me too.
I looked at the calibration file from ICS to JB. I don't think the difference warrants the problems seen.
From ICS to JB, these are the changes:
# 2.4G ACR
rxgaintbl100=1
# 5GHz Starting Tx Gain Index
initxidx5g=96
Hi, noticing that my 5x signal indicator will drop to the equivalent of zero bars -110 dBm 99asu. This is happening in my apartment that is known to have bad reception. My old note 3 always had problems, my gf's oneplus one on tmobile does the same thing. So I understand that my apartment isn't the best for maintaining good reception.
I did think however that me losing reception on my note 3 was due to lack of updating my phone and also being on a crappy ROM. I believed my gf's issues were just do the poor quality control of oneplus. I figured this was the issue after trying out the Moto X pure (2015) in my apartment recently, and it hasn't dropped signal like any of the phones mentioned above. So my experience with Moto X made me think that other phones were just faulty/old.
Then I got the nexus 5x to try out, and I started to experience the exact same loss of signal as the note 3 and oneplus. I've fiddled with APN settings--matched them exactly to the moto pure and so on--and flashed to newest system image, but still experienced that connection loss.
In addition to this, while driving around I noticed that the 5x was often dropping to 3g and taking a while to get back to LTE. While trying out the Moto X, I didn't notice this at all. And after comparing the cellular network signal graph in the battery section, my observations matched. The moto x had way better reception throughout the day.
My question then is, is anyone else noticing/having this issue? Are nexus phones known for having poor radios/signal? Any suggestions? Should I try returning and buying another? RMA?
I like the 5x much more than the pure (not having any battery issue), but it seems silly to keep it if its a worse functioning phone.
What build number are you on it seems like the current build is fixing this issue for people. I'm gonna bet your on MDA89E which is not the newest build.
I'm on mdb80i. I was on build you mentioned, and thought flashing newest would fix my problem but it didn't.
On another note, I tried surfing web while supposedly having no bars (~115dBm 99 asu) and websites loaded just fine. I also tried calling while supposedly had no signal but I was able to get call through. So not sure what is going on when losing bars
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What build number are you on it seems like the current build is fixing this issue for people. I'm gonna bet your on MDA89E which is not the newest build.
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Hello. Is Wifi good in this phone fast and stable? What about gps? Is it accurate? Have you encountered any issues? I'm not confident making a move, i hear there are many complaints about signal issues in this phone
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Hello. Is Wifi good in this phone fast and stable? What about gps? Is it accurate? Have you encountered any issues? I'm not confident making a move, i hear there are many complaints about signal issues in this phone
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Hello,
Some suffer issues others don't...
I have seen several people suffering of slow speeds on WiFi.
Also someone having a GPS which doesn't lock here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/gps-locking-available-satellites-t3602047
Mine locks in a few seconds and really accurate.
Talking about cell reception, i have a bad signal in my town. My provider doesn't have much cell towers here. But it performs just like my previous Nexus 6P, Nexus 6, HTC ONE, etc...
I have none of the issues you are talking about by the way. I used to have a Bluetooth battery drain while connected to my Volkswagen mk6 Golf, which seems to be solved since 7.1.2.
Cheers...
Wifi is good. GPS is good. Phone is still fast but meh.
Zero connectivity issues for me with WiFi, GPS, and cellular. All have been stellar.
Bluetooth is the only thing that has trouble sometimes, and is the most common connectivity complaint among Pixel/XL users. Seems to be external device dependent in my experience as it works fine with most bluetooth devices I've tried, but cuts in and out from time to time with others (my car bluetooth and 1 pair of old headphones).
No issues here.
Didn't see a thread covering this, so I figured I'd start one.
One issue that has plagued my Pixel 2XL is severely diminished LTE signal strength on Android 10. I first encountered this on beta 5, and again on beta 6. My signal dbm's were 10-15 less than on Pie, and the signal indicator was rarely, if ever, above 1 bar. My signal would fluctuate wildly based on location, and would rarely hold steady. Speed tests confirmed things. Extremely frustrating. It was such a problem that I eventually opted out of the beta program and rolled back to Pie before the official release of Android 10. Since then my signal strength has returned to normal and been steady and solid. I have not updated to official Android 10 yet, and keep hoping that this issue will be resolved through a monthly security patch. So far, from what I have been able to gather, this issue has not been fixed. There are several different threads covering this issue, as well as official issue tracker threads with Google:
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13566467?hl=en
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/141578664#comment86
https://forums.androidcentral.com/g...237-low-signal-quality-after-10-update-2.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...el_3_weak_signal_on_verizon_after_android_10/
I am having this issue on my 2XL, on AT&T, however this issue persists across devices and carriers, and doesn't seem to discriminate. As with most things though, there are plenty of folks who say they are not effected by this in the least.
So my question here is this:
Has anyone noticed a decrease in signal strength on Android 10 on the Pixel 2XL?
LTE? 3G? WiFi?
Fluctuating signal? Dropped calls? Poor data speeds?
I'd really love to update to 10, and the latest December patch, but am extremely hesitant to do so, based on what I have personally experienced and read in the above threads.
Any input, opinions, personal anecdotes are welcome. Thanks in advance.
I haven't had any issues with LTE signal as you described, but I have had problems with WiFi signal regularly dropping. After some research, I found that the issue was with Android and my router which puts out a 5ghz and 2.4ghz signal - Android 10 would drop the signal when switching between the two. My solution for home was to turn off the 5ghz channel on my router and my issues with WiFi went away.
I don't use WiFi away from home frequently enough to see if this signal issue has persisted on other connections, hoping for a fix in the December security patch.
I am running Android 10, rooted with Magisk. Clean installed about two weeks ago and the issue was apparent from the get-go. Never had anything like this in Pie.
I can't say for sure on the LTE side as I never checked numbers prior to updating to A10B5, however signal strength barely shows on the indicator. Tower is 4 blocks away. My wifi is terrible and there appear many variations across Pixels. No solutions here but appears to be a widespread problem. FYI.
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13670154?hl=en
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/android-10-broke-wifi-t3965367
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I haven't had any issues with LTE signal as you described, but I have had problems with WiFi signal regularly dropping. After some research, I found that the issue was with Android and my router which puts out a 5ghz and 2.4ghz signal - Android 10 would drop the signal when switching between the two. My solution for home was to turn off the 5ghz channel on my router and my issues with WiFi went away.
I don't use WiFi away from home frequently enough to see if this signal issue has persisted on other connections, hoping for a fix in the December security patch.
I am running Android 10, rooted with Magisk. Clean installed about two weeks ago and the issue was apparent from the get-go. Never had anything like this in Pie.
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UPDATE:
Last night, I received and flashed the OTA update. I went into my home route and turned on the 5ghz channel again and the WiFi issue immediately returned for me. So, sadly no fix in the December patch and at least in my experience, this is limited to 5ghz connections. For now, I've reverted by home WiFi back to 2.4ghz and it's working fine.
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UPDATE:
Last night, I received and flashed the OTA update. I went into my home route and turned on the 5ghz channel again and the WiFi issue immediately returned for me. So, sadly no fix in the December patch and at least in my experience, this is limited to 5ghz connections. For now, I've reverted by home WiFi back to 2.4ghz and it's working fine.
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Thanks for the update on the WiFi side of things. Sucks that that hasn't been fixed yet, after months of it being a known issue.
Just out of curiosity, how is your LTE signal strength on the December update? Dbm's and signal bars appear to be normal? Any dropped calls or slower than usual data speeds?
The WiFi issue sucks, but at least it can be worked around for now. There is no substituting for poor signal and connectivity though, and that is still a deal breaker for me moving forward.
Thanks in advance for any input, I appreciate it.
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Thanks for the update on the WiFi side of things. Sucks that that hasn't been fixed yet, after months of it being a known issue.
Just out of curiosity, how is your LTE signal strength on the December update? Dbm's and signal bars appear to be normal? Any dropped calls or slower than usual data speeds?
The WiFi issue sucks, but at least it can be worked around for now. There is no substituting for poor signal and connectivity though, and that is still a deal breaker for me moving forward.
Thanks in advance for any input, I appreciate it.
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If there has been a change with my LTE signal strength, I certainly don't notice it. I haven't had any dropped calls or slow data speeds.
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If there has been a change with my LTE signal strength, I certainly don't notice it. I haven't had any dropped calls or slow data speeds.
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Thanks, good to know. Not to beat a dead horse here, but in general, do you notice less signal bars on 10 than previously on Pie? On the betas, I rarely showed more than 1 bar at any given time, and dbm's were less across the board as well. Frustrating. I realize bars don't mean everything, obviously, and the only way to truly measure signal strength is by looking at the actual dbm's. Maybe something in the Android 10 code changed the way signal bars are calculated relative to dbm's?
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Thanks, good to know. Not to beat a dead horse here, but in general, do you notice less signal bars on 10 than previously on Pie? On the betas, I rarely showed more than 1 bar at any given time, and dbm's were less across the board as well. Frustrating. I realize bars don't mean everything, obviously, and the only way to truly measure signal strength is by looking at the actual dbm's. Maybe something in the Android 10 code changed the way signal bars are calculated relative to dbm's?
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No, I haven't noticed a change in bars or dbm's since the update. I live in the city and so my service signal has always been strong - no change since upgrading to 10. I should note that I didn't update to 10 until about a week or so ago and when I did, I did a clean flash and then rooted with Magisk. I have since updated to the December security patch, again with no change to my cellular signal.
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No, I haven't noticed a change in bars or dbm's since the update. I live in the city and so my service signal has always been strong - no change since upgrading to 10. I should note that I didn't update to 10 until about a week or so ago and when I did, I did a clean flash and then rooted with Magisk. I have since updated to the December security patch, again with no change to my cellular signal.
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Thanks, appreciate the responses. It's actually good to hear that things are normal on your end. Sometimes it's easy to get caught up in the complaints, and in the process not hear about those who have no issues at all. So strange how this bug seems to randomly effect people, across carriers and various Pixel devices. Some are majorly effected, some not at all. Would love to update, but it's a roll of the dice that I'm not sure I'm willing to take.
I’m wondering, why can’t/don’t you merely update to 10, try it out and see how things go for about a week, and if it’s not a good experience for you, merely roll-back using the Full Factory Pie/9 image?
In any case, I am under Verizon and haven’t noticed any lowering of network signal or performance. I do experience some need to re-initialize the wifi – but, to be fair, I had that issue in Pie – but maybe not as frequent.
Either way, many/most have a good enough positive experience that it’s simply at least worth a try; at least on a temporary basis. But, again either way, good luck and hope this helps…
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I’m wondering, why can’t/don’t you merely update to 10, try it out and see how things go for about a week, and if it’s not a good experience for you, merely roll-back using the Full Factory Pie/9 image?
In any case, I am under Verizon and haven’t noticed any lowering of network signal or performance. I do experience some need to re-initialize the wifi – but, to be fair, I had that issue in Pie – but maybe not as frequent.
Either way, many/most have a good enough positive experience that it’s simply at least worth a try; at least on a temporary basis. But, again either way, good luck and hope this helps…
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Thanks for the response, I appreciate it. I am probably one of the few Pixel owners out there who are still running completely stock and unrooted, and I also never bothered to unlock the bootloader. So needless to say, having the ability/option to flash back to the factory image for PIe, should things go sideways, would take some work. I'll probably update at some point, but I have had literally zero issues on PIe. It runs flawlessly for me, and always has, so the thought of introducing potential problems makes me a bit hesitant. Just wanted to try to see how widespread this signal issue was., that's all.