Its official http://www.tmonews.com/2009/06/t-mobile-announces-dash-3g/
Thanks, but for some reason I think you may be rubbing in our face a bit
How do you like it?
Im considering adding a line to get one. Then we'll all be obessing about the G2 after the snap is old news.
shwweeetness
Yeah only issue I'm having is 3G is still a no go in my city. Flippin Tmo get your network up already. TMo Baxter is barking and in Milwaukee.
WTF I hear Q3 but that's blowing smoke
i saw a "snap" at best buy the other day for sprint, and i must say i was not very impressed at first use.
the leyboard seemed pretty nice and i liked the hardware upgrades, but i dont know if its for me. (hell ill probably get one if the price is not to high and they dont require a data upgrade, i got the tzones setup right now and i fought hard to get it back)
then again when i first saw the dash on the internet i was like, man thats an ugly phone, then i got one lol. man i love the dash
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Thanks, but for some reason I think you may be rubbing in our face a bit
How do you like it?
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So far so good. I have not had a chance to really get under the hood but as far as usage its fast, the GPS is smooth (usually have 7 to 20 sats at any given time) the battery lasts a full day with the GPS running nearly all the time (I use it as my Nav device) the track ball takes a bit getting used to but after a day or two you will wonder how you got along without it. Calls are clear and crisp. 3G is awesome.. the limited areas I have that is. The only real issue I have with it is speaker volume (watching movies, listening to MP3's etc) It seems a bit low in my opinion.
Mine is T-Mo branded device, I got it through.. lets say.. the back door
So did Tmo do a sloppy job on the ROM like they did with the Dash or is it usable? Does it have useless crap like handigo and will there be an HTC unbranded ROM availible for it?
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So far so good. I have not had a chance to really get under the hood but as far as usage its fast, the GPS is smooth (usually have 7 to 20 sats at any given time) the battery lasts a full day with the GPS running nearly all the time (I use it as my Nav device) the track ball takes a bit getting used to but after a day or two you will wonder how you got along without it. Calls are clear and crisp. 3G is awesome.. the limited areas I have that is. The only real issue I have with it is speaker volume (watching movies, listening to MP3's etc) It seems a bit low in my opinion.
Mine is T-Mo branded device, I got it through.. lets say.. the back door
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Fantastic, I shall wait patiently! The countdown is on!
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So did Tmo do a sloppy job on the ROM like they did with the Dash or is it usable? Does it have useless crap like handigo and will there be an HTC unbranded ROM availible for it?
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Yes, its sloppy, and T-Mobile added their junk of course. But the ROM aint too bad considering. As for as the HTC ROM, There will be a WM 6.5 HTC ROM (at least that is the buzz) and T-Mo will probably offer an update to 6.5 as well. Of course it wont take long for the folks here to offer up some variety ROMs
I seriously think I might use my upgrade credit to get one.
My company has been blackberry-only for 2 years, and i'm finally getting a dash for my personal line, but I may decide to try one out.
I'll have to get blackberry connect on it though.
Now, if they would just hurry up and get 3G in Albuquerque and EL Paso
3g is offered here where I live, but Im moving to Missouri where Ill be roaming on ATnT. Oh well, I wonder if I can weasel out of my contract due to living in an area where no service is offered and unlock my T-Mo phones.
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3g is offered here where I live, but Im moving to Missouri where Ill be roaming on ATnT. Oh well, I wonder if I can weasel out of my contract due to living in an area where no service is offered and unlock my T-Mo phones.
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You can get out of contract if you can prove you moved to an area without service. As far as unlocking, do it before you cancel contract, a stipulation is you have to be an active customer to get the unlock codes
Cool and yea im aware of that. I been a long time customer of T-mo thought and with flex pay I get free roaming. So Im not sure what Im gonna do, if I do switch to a similar plan Ill be paying around 15 dollars more a month and not get fav 5.
Have you tried the pocket emulators (snes,NES) on the snap yet? How do they run? I was thinkin of just remapping the D-pad to QWES so I wouldnt have to play using the track ball. Also what kind of java is it running?
It has JBED, but since I dont use Java its not that big of a deal. I installed Smartgear and a few hundred ROMs, no problems so far on any of the games, the track ball actually works perfectly with the games.. since it is not a spin and cycle track ball it works pretty much the same as the D-Pad. I installed most of what I had on my Dash and the only program to give me any 'issues' was Duke 3d.. but after tweeking the user files it runs perfectly.
datz phat.
I would get it if there was a GBA emulator for smartphones.
But until then, I'll be putting my eye on a new PPC xD
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Well, it's been fun.
It was renewal day this weekend, here in the UK as many of you will know all our handsets are subsidised by the network operators. Therefore every so often we have the chance to "upgrade" our handsets, it is a merry dance. Once "out of contract", we can change operators, switch price plans, and get a new handset for "free" or a combination of any of these. It can all be rather confusing, but the long and the short of it is that I can get a shiny new piece of kit, so it's great.
Anyway, I've had the vario II on t-mobile in the UK for one year and now it's been chopped so I thought I'd leave my thoughts. It was good. Obviously I flashed it with jasjamming and more recently schaps plus several others. I reckon I flashed it probably 50 times, reinstalled settings and apps, a compulsive tinkerer I suppose!
Pros...
Full keyboard
High Speed Data on t-mobile was good and genuinely useful
TomTom 6 (with ext. gps receiver purchased on ebay for 30 quid)
Useable web browser (just)
Customisable with firmware flashing!
Amazing forum here full of helpful people
Cons...
BATTERY LIFE (it's appalling, there is no getting away from it)
Heavy as a hod of bricks
Form factor (too big)
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So what did I go for...
Nokia 6120 Classic.
wtf nokia 6120?!
Nothing like going back to the dark ages
you should have held out for a couple of months and got one of these
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch_dual.htm
I myself have bought a new N95 8GB as my second phone.
Bingobob,
Good luck to you. You made the choice you want and that's all that matters. Never quite sure why people think that what they would buy/get is what everyone else should buy/get!
What did you do with the t-mobile device then? Sell it or is it up for sale?
WB
that's the thing, not sure. Flash it with something I suppose and/or use it as a TomTom or ebay it. not sure.
Well if you fancy offloading it and its not too expensive, PM me. I am assuming its in good condition? Also assuming that its unlocked, etc, and you have all the bits for it?
Cheers
WB
It;s also for me the end..
I bought a Nokia N95.
Ciao, Good Bye
Each to their own. Personally I have to stay with touch screen phones... from here it will be the Kaiser or some variant down the line...
Same here, I love touch screens.
Although I'm very happy with my hermes I'm waiting for the the touch cruise.
Well, I'm waiting for a 3G iPhone, no more WM6 device I think.
Same here, when there's a good offer for the iphone I'll ditch the HTC. But as for 3G, that's only a vague rumor, I wouldn't count on it.
I could never go back to a non-Windows phone.
Especially for a Nokia or an iPhone.
I've played with various Nokias over the years and I think that they are the worst mobiles out of any I've ever touched.
As for the iPhone, over-hyped, over-priced, and under-developed.
I'm HTC's ***** now.
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Same here, when there's a good offer for the iphone I'll ditch the HTC. But as for 3G, that's only a vague rumor, I wouldn't count on it.
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They have to make one with 3G or it will not sell in Europe. Also needs mms.
i switched to IPHONE. and i am very stisfied.
i watched this forum for quite a while, but however you will patch the hermes, it will never come even near to the iphone. everybody tries to construct iphone-like UIs. so why not take the original one?
peter
I've moved from my TyTN to an iPhone. I can't see myself going back to the TyTN anytime soon either.
iPhone ist great for design (friggin awesome btw ) and "OS" only (included internet browsing) it's really neat and user friendly.
Otherwise all the rest is total crap, most of the time technology wise
No 3G (TyTN has 3G+) a heresy for a phone that want's to be "multimedia"
Camera 2megapixel (same as TyTN, crap for both )
Bad autonomy (i'm connected on 3G with BBC on all the time for straight 34h without any problems)
No email downloading possible or push mail
So if apple re-considers and brings out a phone that has all those abilities yeah I would gladly change. Moreover, BBC or something equivalent is for me top priority
what do you think about the new htc touch cruise...?
The Iphone is personally not for me. I want to customize the phone when I want to.
Also no 3G is really a deal braker for me.
As to the UI I admit MS has something to learn from Apple but other then that no thank you.
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The Iphone is personally not for me. I want to customize the phone when I want to.
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That's the cool thing, you actually can. What interests me and has drawn me to WM was the ability to fiddle with it, do a bunch of hacks and tweaks etc. However, while the thing is very flexible and powerful it's "unusable". 3 seconds to exit from sleep, up to 5-10 after opening the keyboard to let it rotate screen and become responsive again, ...
Once you've tried internet browsing on the iPhone / iPod touch you just realise that WM's IE even with addons is pretty much the worst thing you could think of, only to be used in last resort, while I can be nearly as effective on the iphone than on my PC...
Guys are developing apps for the iphone at the same rate than here on WM6, and having a full Unix-based OS allows for even a LOT more possibilities than a mobile Windows version...
The lack of 3G is indeed a pain. But then, when I use it on my HTC it's by using it as a modem for the laptop, as there's no way to actually make use of it on the device itself...
If there was an official news saying that the European one would have 3G I'd wait. But I'm not dreaming and know there is VERY little chance. We'll know soon, as France will have them in a few days. But for now, the imported ones are selling like hot cakes, suppliers are getting out of stock all the time and prices go up as they have difficulties sourcing them. So I don't think not having 3G will bother anyone. Especially with the sky-high prices for mobile internet around Europe.
How many of you hope that when/if T-mobile brands this phone it isn't the Cavalier but some entirely new phone?
hopfully not for awhile cuz i just got the dash 3 months ago.
I wouldn't mind the S630 at all.
Where did you hear this... rumour ?
I don't think it will be a Cav, unless the Cav has about double the battery life and is 3G ready. Trying to predict the future from reading Gizmodo/etc. and biweekly Tmobile chattings, I think it doesn't cut the mark for what Tmo US has planned.
However, if they did push it, it would probably get the Cav in widespread circulation enough to get it some decent development, which it currently lacks. Until it is popped wide open, I'm not interested.
So I think the Cav is not the Dash 2. And I think the Shadow 2 will be around looong before a Dash 2. My two cents, now 100% off, one night only.
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Oh, he heard about it on this hot phone hacking site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388897
I dont know what kind of "development" you're expecting for the Cavalier. I mean... it's a standard smartphone... it's a Dash on steroids. What makes it so special that the current applications developed for landscape smartphones, wouldn't work on it ?
T-Mobile in the US needs to step their game up. Our phones out here suck. When I first got my Dash about a year ago I was one of the only people I knew who had it. Now I see it everywhere because they haven't released anything good. Nothing new. Who wants a Smurf looking phone or a the Shadow (looks cheap)? If there is a new smartphone or PDA from HTC I can't wait to see it for T-Mobile. Does anybody know a loophole I can slip through to get my hands on a T-Mobile UK phone without paying $600?
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I dont know what kind of "development" you're expecting for the Cavalier. I mean... it's a standard smartphone... it's a Dash on steroids. What makes it so special that the current applications developed for landscape smartphones, wouldn't work on it ?
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ROM cooking.
I don't see why people have such a problem with the Cavalier! It's an awesome phone. We all love our Excaliburs...and from what I understand, the Cavalier is nothing but a "next-gen" Excalibur. That's a good thing...right? If the Dash 2 is the Cavalier or isn't the Cavalier--either way I'm anticipating it's release.
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T-Mobile in the US needs to step their game up. Our phones out here suck. When I first got my Dash about a year ago I was one of the only people I knew who had it. Now I see it everywhere because they haven't released anything good. Nothing new. Who wants a Smurf looking phone or a the Shadow (looks cheap)? If there is a new smartphone or PDA from HTC I can't wait to see it for T-Mobile. Does anybody know a loophole I can slip through to get my hands on a T-Mobile UK phone without paying $600?
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Yeah its called eBay
Rip Syntaxx said:
I don't see why people have such a problem with the Cavalier! It's an awesome phone. We all love our Excaliburs...and from what I understand, the Cavalier is nothing but a "next-gen" Excalibur. That's a good thing...right? If the Dash 2 is the Cavalier or isn't the Cavalier--either way I'm anticipating it's release.
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I'm not hating on the Cavalier. I've only heard that all the new smartphones Tmobile US is interested in have to have a much longer talk time on WiFi than, for example, the Dash. Since the Cavalier is similarly sized, I suspect it is similar in battery life. And I am not aware of it being 3G, which they have said all the new high-end phones will be.
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I'm not hating on the Cavalier. I've only heard that all the new smartphones Tmobile US is interested in have to have a much longer talk time on WiFi than, for example, the Dash. Since the Cavalier is similarly sized, I suspect it is similar in battery life. And I am not aware of it being 3G, which they have said all the new high-end phones will be.
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Well the cavalier ( at least the ones sold in the UK and japan ) have 3g , dont know if its UTMS or HSDPA. but the only complain people have is the battery life on the device. Since it includes a more robust 400mhz proc (made by samsung i think?) and includes 3g It is naturally have a shorter battery life. (unless they have found another battery with more "juice" to offset the extra power and bandwidth)
Cav Specs
http://http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-S630-Cavalier-phone-p_2260.html
Iris Specs (CDMA)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/HTC-S640-phone-p_2442.html
The Cavalier is buggy and not worthy to succeed the Dash.
http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=977
They should have at least kept the rounded corners.
Cavalier is not significantly better
I bought Cavalier a few months ago to be used on T-Mobile network. I ended up selling it and keeping the Dash. Here is my impression:
- The phone did not feel fast despite the processor, because the O/S was not optimized for it.
- Battery drained in 1 day or less depending on usage.
- T-Mo does not have 3G, so internet was about the same.
I am honestly getting tired of the JOGGR. Makes me want to get another phone. However, I like the HTC's and I do not want a touchscreen device.
Thanks guys, for all the insights and opinions on the Cavalier. I honestly thought it would be just as good (if not, better) than its predecessor... I've been playing around with the thought of getting an unlocked Cav from Best Buy's website, but after reading all these posts--I'm not so sure...
Just wanted to let you guys know that Oprah is giving a tmobile promo code "KICKOFF24" for her 24th season. Its good for $100 off on a Mytouch 3G.
Check out the link
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/10/save-100-on-a-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-thanks-to-oprah/
Cheers!
aznwannabe358 said:
Just wanted to let you guys know that Oprah is giving a tmobile promo code "KICKOFF24" for her 24th season. Its good for $100 off on a Mytouch 3G.
Check out the link
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/10/save-100-on-a-t-mobile-mytouch-3g-thanks-to-oprah/
Cheers!
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I want one!!!
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I want one!!!
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Yeah me too, but the wife says I have to many phones already. LOL
Guess I have some sucking up to do.
I gotta have a keyboard. If the phone starts lagging, typing on the screen lags too, it really sucks. $99 is not a bad price for the phone, I'm sure alot of people would jump on that.
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I gotta have a keyboard. If the phone starts lagging, typing on the screen lags too, it really sucks. $99 is not a bad price for the phone, I'm sure alot of people would jump on that.
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Does yor G1 lag then? Just wondering as with the CPU speed we have in devices should be no lag, never use Hardware Keyboard on Kaiser as the expresion "Hard to Use & Hard to Find" pops into mind, but then never have any lag
the g1 does lag if im using too many programs (like pandora+messaging+opera mini) I usually run together. Like the Dash you can keep typing on the keyboard and the phone will catch up, with the onscreen touch keyboard when you type when and phone lags the buttons wont respond until the cpu catches up, you either gotta type slower or go back and fix all the errors. This happens also with the mytouch, im sure when better faster ROMS come out itmay not be such a problem.
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the g1 does lag if im using too many programs (like pandora+messaging+opera mini) I usually run together. Like the Dash you can keep typing on the keyboard and the phone will catch up, with the onscreen touch keyboard when you type when and phone lags the buttons wont respond until the cpu catches up, you either gotta type slower or go back and fix all the errors. This happens also with the mytouch, im sure when better faster ROMS come out itmay not be such a problem.
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To fix that gain root access of your phone and download Advanced Task Killer (Free) it lets you kill any apps running quickly and frees up ram quickly
yea its rooted, latest cyanogen stable rom, parted sd card for the apps2sd, i use task manager, i acually got a few task killer apps. i should overclock it but i can deal with a little lag to save battery. its all modded out like my dash is haha.
Does anyone know if this applies to upgrading/renewing for 2 years as well? I'm out of contract now and up for the $199 Mytouch upgrade. It would be pretty nice to get this $100 cheaper.
according to what i read online it applies to qualifying upgrades and new service.
Im gonna wait and see what the moto cliq is gonna be like. I know my next phone is definantly going to be Android unless the T-Mo TP2 price comes down. Yes folks flipped from WM.
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Im gonna wait and see what the moto cliq is gonna be like. I know my next phone is definantly going to be Android unless the T-Mo TP2 price comes down. Yes folks flipped from WM.
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I'm waiting to see the Cliq and the price as well. Rumor has it that it is going to be a major push from Motorola and T-Mobile and may even be FREE with a 2-year contract. If they do that, or even make it $50 or so, it is definitely going to be my next phone.
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Im gonna wait and see what the moto cliq is gonna be like. I know my next phone is definantly going to be Android unless the T-Mo TP2 price comes down. Yes folks flipped from WM.
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Wow, I never heard of the cliq until I saw your post. I did some reading on it, and it seems like a pretty awesome phone! Looks like I may be torn between the cliq or the dash 3g when it's time to upgrade!
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Yes folks flipped from WM.
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Its was a good flip for me I've been a Linux and Mac user my whole life so getting root access and being a mod an Android device is a whole lot more comfortable for me
ubuntu rox, I just wish I could run my favorite programs on it.
i was just thinking although the cliq looks like a badass looks and tech wise, i realised it wont get much xda support being a motorola. who knows if it will be rootable and be able to put cooked roms on it (if i cant run cyanogen with apps2sd it might be a no go for me). i dont want to be stuck using a standard t-mo rom on it. phones like moto q9h and the jack would be alot better if cooked roms, hacks and mods were availible (just the usual registry mods was all i could find) but little tech support makes them a dud IMO.
btw the pre order date is said to be oct. 19th no price yet. im still debating on the mytouch promo or just wait on the moto clit, but i dont wanna cough up 200 on the touch since the promo is ending soon (23rd or the 24th i think) decisions decisions.
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i was just thinking although the cliq looks like a badass looks and tech wise, i realised it wont get much xda support being a motorola. who knows if it will be rootable and be able to put cooked roms on it (if i cant run cyanogen with apps2sd it might be a no go for me). i dont want to be stuck using a standard t-mo rom on it. phones like moto q9h and the jack would be alot better if cooked roms, hacks and mods were availible (just the usual registry mods was all i could find) but little tech support makes them a dud IMO.
btw the pre order date is said to be oct. 19th no price yet. im still debating on the mytouch promo or just wait on the moto clit, but i dont wanna cough up 200 on the touch since the promo is ending soon (23rd or the 24th i think) decisions decisions.
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please remember that you're talking about a motorola device. always have been shyt and always will be shyt phones. they made 1 good phone ever... the razr.. and that was.... 5 years ago.... they made the sidekick slide though.... nvmd that was shyt too.
yea your absolutely right about moto phones, i got the q9h with WM 6.1 thinking it would have been an upgrade from my dash since the tech specs said so, it was slower and froze up alot and just pissed me off all the time. i went back to the dash after about two weeks. my gf had the sk slide,it was a nice looking phone but i wasnt too impressed with it.
watch its probly gonna be all hype and end up discontinued in 6 months after the release.
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yea your absolutely right about moto phones, i got the q9h with WM 6.1 thinking it would have been an upgrade from my dash since the tech specs said so, it was slower and froze up alot and just pissed me off all the time. i went back to the dash after about two weeks. my gf had the sk slide,it was a nice looking phone but i wasnt too impressed with it.
watch its probly gonna be all hype and end up discontinued in 6 months after the release.
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i dont want to discourage you but i've had a g1 sitting in the box and just got mytouch. they run the exact same software. everything in the dream forums works well. tons of stable roms tons of free apps. battery life is fail but no more than the dash prior mods. 16-20 hours. i had to go to a store and play with it a while to make up my mind. if you dont like it and still want the moto cliq go for it
i agree about motorolas, they are pieces of ****. even the razor, it was only cool because of its size. the cliq is probably aimed for the "Hannah Montana" crowd. its tmobile's way of replacing the sidekick
I currently have the ATT Fuze. Like many of us on ATT, I have been waiting impatiently for the Touch Pro 2. I decided to jump ship and get the Touch Pro 2 from Sprint. After 3 days with the device, I decided to return it.
Here are some of the issues:
The GPS lag is still there - Come on, this is what bothered me most on the Fuze; it is not as bad on the Touch Pro 2, but you still have a 2 second lag. I don't get it. My ATT Tilt performed better than both the TP and TP2 in that regard.
The device feels slow - not very snappy as I hoped it would be.
Program/Tweaks incompatibility - Many Tweaks that work on the TP do not work on the TP2 - Phoenalarm, Sashimi etc.
Maybe I expected too much, but I feel I have been let down by HTC. Of course, it is possible that some of these issues are related to the Sprint network, but I really expected more from the TP2.
Once the TP2 comes out on ATT, it will already be outdated - see HTC Leo.
I think at this point, I will have a closer look at the Samsung Omnia 2 when it comes out on Verizon, but I will skip the TP2.
i dont care gps,htc pro2 has damn bigger screen than your fuze,the pretty girl looks so real in pro2
my XXXXX counts on pro2..........
Please keep the forum clean language
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i dont care gps,htc pro2 has damn bigger screen than your fuze,the pretty girl looks so real in pro2
my XXXXX counts on pro2..........
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You have some serious issues.
To the OP:
HTC has been known to not put high end processors on their devices. As far as i know, the Sprint version of the TP2 has some issues with the "Sprint" software.But all in all, this device completly obliterates the fuze by a large margin.
I like how both the replies had to be edited for language haha
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I currently have the ATT Fuze. Like many of us on ATT, I have been waiting impatiently for the Touch Pro 2. I decided to jump ship and get the Touch Pro 2 from Sprint. After 3 days with the device, I decided to return it.
Here are some of the issues:
The GPS lag is still there - Come on, this is what bothered me most on the Fuze; it is not as bad on the Touch Pro 2, but you still have a 2 second lag. I don't get it. My ATT Tilt performed better than both the TP and TP2 in that regard.
The device feels slow - not very snappy as I hoped it would be.
Program/Tweaks incompatibility - Many Tweaks that work on the TP do not work on the TP2 - Phoenalarm, Sashimi etc.
Maybe I expected too much, but I feel I have been let down by HTC. Of course, it is possible that some of these issues are related to the Sprint network, but I really expected more from the TP2.
Once the TP2 comes out on ATT, it will already be outdated - see HTC Leo.
I think at this point, I will have a closer look at the Samsung Omnia 2 when it comes out on Verizon, but I will skip the TP2.
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I have no lag, my phone is snappier than any phone in existence in the US right now, Sashimi works fine, and I have never used Phone Alarm. I'm sorry yours was broken...
I thinki there must be a quality control issue at htc.. because i have a sprint touch pro2 and my phone is faster than my pro 1 in every aspect. its 10x faster and i never had any problems with software incompatability with the exception of manila tweaks which is expected being this is a new version of tf3d. I feel like some people get duds and some get lucky like myself and get great devices
I ended up buying a Verizon TP2 after I returned the Sprint one. I received it yersterday and so far I have been very happy. Snappy, loud, great voice quality. Either I had a defective unit or the problems were due to Sprint bloatware modifications or the Sprint network is just lousy in Minneapolis.
The Fuze was the biggest turd, even with different ROMs running TF3D was horrible experience.
The Verizon GPS has little or no lag so it must be a Sprint issue.
The Rhodium is a good Smartphone, not perfect but better that it's old model, the one that he replaces.
My experience was the total opposite. I waited for the verizon tp2 forever, when i ordered it, vzw told me that only my main line on my family account could get the upgrade price. that pissed me off, since my wife also needed a new smartphone since we are both realtors. vzw only worked in half of my house, the othe were dead zones. i called up sprint, they sent me this phone, a palm pre and about 250 dollars off with prepaid visa cards and service rebates to offset the price difference. once i got the phones, i have total service now in my house, couldnt be happier. im located in san diego.
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Best WM phone I ever had, but then again I had the Wing. Besides it being a little slow and the freezing that occured from flipping the keyboard open/close it was an OK phone.
GermanGuy said:
I ended up buying a Verizon TP2 after I returned the Sprint one. I received it yersterday and so far I have been very happy. Snappy, loud, great voice quality. Either I had a defective unit or the problems were due to Sprint bloatware modifications or the Sprint network is just lousy in Minneapolis.
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While Sprint's network in the Twin Cities area is pretty bad, I'd be more likely to blame their software.
Black Phoenix said:
The Rhodium is a good Smartphone, not perfect but better that it's old model, the one that he replaces.
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Rhodium is good if your coming from a kaiser. The only upgrade from the TP is the screen.
dezoris said:
The Fuze was the biggest turd, even with different ROMs running TF3D was horrible experience.
The Verizon GPS has little or no lag so it must be a Sprint issue.
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HA yeah it is very slow. Everything lags a bit
Nagrom Nniuq said:
I have no lag, my phone is snappier than any phone in existence in the US right now, Sashimi works fine, and I have never used Phone Alarm. I'm sorry yours was broken...
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You are crazy, Iphone 3gs has much more horsepower under the hood.
ANSwer to all your replies should start and end with the same reasoning. IT HAS THE SAME CHIPSET FROM FROM THE TP AND RUNNING ON 528mhz. HTC has used the same chipset for the last 3 years.
My T-Mobile TP2 has the worst signal strength of any phone I have had in the last few years.. It does not work at my house, drops calls while driving and always has 2 bars less than my Mytouch..
I thought it was the phone but I had the phone exchanged and the new one is the same.
I wish it worked better, I love everything else about it, but if it does not work at my house it is worthless...
Give it time
Give it some time. You are just paying an early adopters fee. Once the ROM guys get it open and start working on it it will be become a much better phone. GPS taking a few seconds to get a lock is practically instantaneous. Mine does seem a little laggy, but I can blame that on bloatware. Most all of the problems I've had were software related. Like the visual voicemail taking two days to let me know I got a message, and the SMS freaking out.
Have faith young Jedi.
GPS lag is negligible after doing the GPS Tweaks on here + radio update to 4.xxxx. Use TomTom almost daily now, love it!
mtanous said:
My experience was the total opposite. I waited for the verizon tp2 forever, when i ordered it, vzw told me that only my main line on my family account could get the upgrade price. that pissed me off, since my wife also needed a new smartphone since we are both realtors. vzw only worked in half of my house, the othe were dead zones. i called up sprint, they sent me this phone, a palm pre and about 250 dollars off with prepaid visa cards and service rebates to offset the price difference. once i got the phones, i have total service now in my house, couldnt be happier. im located in san diego.
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I'm surprised Sprint worked inyour house and VZW didn't.
i havent seen any threads posted or anything here whats going on? did u sprint guys pass on the arrive or something?
I will probably get one off contract this week. Not a fan of the form factor, but I need to replace my Diamond ASAP.
Not on Sprint.
I ordered. Looking at other forums it appears that instore stock at most stores was very limited. No best Buys or Radio Shacks carried it. Amazon and Wirefly had it cheaper, but it wont be here until wednesday.
I got one on Sat 3/20, pretty neat so far. I catch myself using my old WebOS gestures sometimes.
I got one today (3/21) Had carried an EVO since day one. still have both. so far so good. the biggest reason Im most likely gonna keep the arrive is the zune player and zune pass.
I posted this review on sprintusers.com:
I came from the Hero running the latest official ROM (Android 2.1 I believe). I've actually extensively played around with WP7 prior to this so I'm very familiar with the OS. IMO there is no comparison between the two devices. It had gotten to the point where I didn't use my Hero for anything other than phone calls and SMS becaues it was so slow. And it wasn't as if I had a bunch of stuff loaded onto it. Even after hard-resetting and only loading absolute essentials (such as Exchange data) it was still SLOOOOW. (lags to switch between screens, pull up menus, open SMS, etc.)
The Arrive on the other hand is lightning quick for the things I want it to do. It loads apps very quickly and never seems to bog down. I've managed to load two exchange accounts as well as several GB of music and videos, sync with FB, etc., and it's still fast. Fast to make phone calls, fast to SMS, fast to load apps. As I said, I have extensively played around with WP7 (was able to borrow a friend's HD7 for several days) so none of this is a suprise to me. Software-wise it delivers exactly as I thought it would.
Comparing the hardware to the HD7 has been interesting. I thought I would find the screen too small on the Arrive but it actually seems to be ok. Definitely smaller than the HD7 (obviously) but not so small as to be a deal-breaker. The biggest surprise has been the quality of the screens between the two. The HD7 colors are very washed out and the screen in general is kind of "meh". The Arrive screen though, really POPS. Colors are nice and saturated and the screen in general seems sharper. My friend who owns the HD7 agreed during a side-by-side comparison. As far as weight, it is noticeably heavier than the HD7. However I think the Arrive feels higher-end than the HD7, even though there is a lot of plastic in both. I can't put my finger on it-- maybe because it's more dense, i.e. more mass in a smaller package, it just seems more substantial.
The keyboard is a pleasure to use-- I have not had a physical keyboard since my HTC Apache back in '06 (!) and I realize now what I have been missing. Very easy to type, intuitive key placement, and good tactile feedback.
All in all I'm very satisfied with the phone. The limitations of the OS have been discussed ad nauseum elsewhere, but as long as you are ok with those limitations you won't be disappointed.
-R
my friend is picking his up today from wirefly
he has been wanting a windows phone since seeing my hd7 and dell venue pro. He likes it already and it's not even here
that said
battery life?
If only it has AT&T/T-Mo's US 3G, =(
i went to 3 sprint stores near my neighborhood, all sold out...
theclueless said:
i went to 3 sprint stores near my neighborhood, all sold out...
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you mean they didn't order any?
orangekid said:
you mean they didn't order any?
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Haha. Im assuming your right
Well the Arrive/7 Pro has it's own Forum section at the verrrrrry bottom of XDA. Most of the posts are there.
I bought one for myself and one for my wife. I am really digging it, there are obviously some things that is missing, but the overall responsiveness and "just works" is great.
i just got mine and i've been trying to activate it for a while..being stubborn...
ms79723 said:
i just got mine and i've been trying to activate it for a while..being stubborn...
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If it won't connect to sprint network/activate, go into your settings-->Cellular--> Change Network Profile/Update PRL.
I had to this on mine after the Sprint store activated it because it would not make phone calls/connect to the internet. My wife who got her activated at the same time by the same person did not have to do this.
orangekid said:
you mean they didn't order any?
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That coming from a T-mobile user who in a year will have to buy an ATT Phone
cyclical said:
If it won't connect to sprint network/activate, go into your settings-->Cellular--> Change Network Profile/Update PRL.
I had to this on mine after the Sprint store activated it because it would not make phone calls/connect to the internet. My wife who got her activated at the same time by the same person did not have to do this.
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yeah, that worked. i stumbled upon that a little after posting my last comment and 10 seconds after stumbling upon it, the person from sprint told me to do it.
All I can say about this phone is that this sht is immaculate!
Got mine sat. And I love it, was coming from the evo . I hate the evo and android but I do miss some of it's features! Don't think I'll look back
I pre-ordered mine and picked it up Sunday. I think the thing is very nice. I came from a HTC Hero. What surprised me is the thickness is only sightly more than the hero. It's noticeable but just slightly.
There are a few quirks to get used to, especially multitasking limitations. But the speed, flow and intuitive interface make up for that. Thinking about it, even though my rooted Hero did multitasking, the performance was so bad, it ruined the experience (same goes for my wife's Evo).
I still find myself using the soft keyboard -- but for the long/detailed email composing, you cannot beat having a physical keyboard (screen real estate).
deadwrong03 said:
i havent seen any threads posted or anything here whats going on? did u sprint guys pass on the arrive or something?
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I had two on pre-order. Picked them up on Sun. afternoon (3/20).
I entered my Live ID and had contacts, Xbox, ZunePass configured by the time I hit the parking lot. When I got in the car I added my main Hotmail account, and when I got home I configured it for Exchange. The rest was spent exploring apps (no, Steve Jobs, NOT "apples").
The wife was another story, she's spent a few days on the migration - mostly because she hadn't synced her phone with Outlook in the 30 days prior, she wanted to migrate her PST to another machine, and she hadn't properly configured Outlook to sync with Windows Live. (Edit: Here's the Live support forum thread on that issue)
She's getting where she needs to be - but I think migrating her old Calendar items are giving her problems. She's posted in the Windows Live support forums and I'll try to post a link to the issue later. It's not really a WP7 issue - just a sync issue she's having between Outlook and Hotmail Calendar.
So I guess how smooth it goes depends on how much you embrace the Windows Live "cloud" concept. In my case, I've never had an easier more care-free migration to a new phone. The wife's experience has been frustrating, but mostly because she's having to learn a lot of new things at once and of course she's in a big hurry. Procrastinators of the world unite... tomorrow - right?