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seriously low memory issues after upgrading to WM6

while on WM5 my free memory never really went below 10 M , even with several programs running.
loaded the new generic WM6 to my generic s620 and while it's nice looking, i'm having serious RAM problems. after a clean boot, free memory is around 18 M.
BUT, having a couple apps open like calendar, messaging, msn, it suddenly drops to only 2 MB available! right now, as I'm typing this it has 1,100K free ram and i have skype and IE open, everything else is closed. yes, ie cache is clean.
i did install voice command and at first suspected it for this sh*t but after disabling (removed from startup).
any ideas?
thx
Greg

Try uninstalling Skype and VoiceCommand for a few days, see how it runs then.

IE will also eat ram and not give it back until it is killed. I always remember to use celetask to close it after i'm done using it.

merwin said:
IE will also eat ram and not give it back until it is killed. I always remember to use celetask to close it after i'm done using it.
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Talking about kill process, what's the best task manager available for smartphone?
I don't know celetask but I'll give this a try.

The question is - does your device run slowly or not allow you to run applications? Or are you just worried about a small number?
I see the same thing on mine, but it nevers runs slow and I have never hit a 'no memory' problem.
I have calendar, inbox, tasks, contacts, phone history, IE, Communicator, MSN and File Explorer open.
I agree with the above post, IE is a hog and you need to kill it from time to time.
My s620 has been running the HTC official WM6 ROM since the day it was posted and I have rebooted once since then, and that was only because I shut it down for a long flight
Maybe I'm just not a 'power user'?

It's not slow but it kicks out some apps from time to time as there is not enough memory.
For example, when browsing with IE, Skype closes sometimes. That pisses me off.

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It's not slow but it kicks out some apps from time to time as there is not enough memory.
For example, when browsing with IE, Skype closes sometimes. That pisses me off.
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That's normal behavior when system closes some apps for wiping memory, you should try to avoid big memory "eaters" and close some of them..
For me i always try to keep 3-4 apps opened and got no problems..

shtits said:
That's normal behavior when system closes some apps for wiping memory, you should try to avoid big memory "eaters" and close some of them..
For me i always try to keep 3-4 apps opened and got no problems..
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yep, I know this. My problem is that WM5 vs. WM6 --> 10 MB is missing "somewhere"....
I only have Messages and Skype running, everything else is closed. But when I launch IE and it kills Skype I get pissed!

I upgraded mine to wm6 and i have no idea whats wrong, it runs beyond slow! nothin running, and lag like no other! it gets so bad sometimes that i have to restart my phone, and to restart my phone i have to pull my micro sd because i guess it doesnt like 1gig sticks! how and what do i do to fix this! also i would re rom it but i just to want to have to go through the hassle of getting BBConnect working again!

Hmmm... doesn't make sense, as mine actually runs >a lot< faster. Is yours under warranty? Sounds like yours is defective, you should talk to your carrier about a replacement device
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I upgraded mine to wm6 and i have no idea whats wrong, it runs beyond slow! nothin running, and lag like no other! it gets so bad sometimes that i have to restart my phone, and to restart my phone i have to pull my micro sd because i guess it doesnt like 1gig sticks! how and what do i do to fix this! also i would re rom it but i just to want to have to go through the hassle of getting BBConnect working again!
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Greg530 said:
yep, I know this. My problem is that WM5 vs. WM6 --> 10 MB is missing "somewhere"....
I only have Messages and Skype running, everything else is closed. But when I launch IE and it kills Skype I get pissed!
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I am not using Skype, but gonna think Skype is very "hungry" for memory, for ex for me: when no apps started i have 15mb free, after IE and other 3-4 apps it's 5-6mb free and still no problems..

TomTom7 Not enough memory available

I got my TP2 for a week now and I really love it!
Yesterday I tried to run TomTom 7 (this did run before) and since then I get the message:"Unable to start. Not enough memory is available."
Does this sound familiar to you? What memory is meant here? I suppose the RAM, because I have freed up some space on the device and on the storage card. Further no applications are running. I also tried doing a soft reset before starting TomTom.
Any help would be appreciated!

Plantje said:
I got my TP2 for a week now and I really love it!
Yesterday I tried to run TomTom 7 (this did run before) and since then I get the message:"Unable to start. Not enough memory is available."
Does this sound familiar to you? What memory is meant here? I suppose the RAM, because I have freed up some space on the device and on the storage card. Further no applications are running. I also tried doing a soft reset before starting TomTom.
Any help would be appreciated!
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hi I had this on my diamond and I found if I deleted my maps and then reinstalled them all was well for me.
I hope this helps you

So that would mean if I delete the maps it should be able to start again? (Of course displaying no maps where found) I just tried it and that doesn't work.
First I'm copying the maps back to the device again. Let's see what happens!

No, unfortunately that doesn't solve the problem.
If I have some time left I will uninstall and reinstall.

The TomTom uses less than 20mb of ram. There should be plenty left.
A re-install should fix your problem.
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The TomTom uses less than 20mb of ram. There should be plenty left.
A re-install should fix your problem.
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I think 20mb is a bit much. To illustrate, i'm running it right now on my Treo 700Wx and before i launched it i had 18mb free program memory (other apps running as well) and right now since running TomTom 7 it's dowm to 11mb (so about 7mb has been used up by TomTom).
At the most it only ever uses as much as 10mb on my puny 3yr old Treo 700Wx.

i have another problema with tomtom(v.7.915) with tomtom installed can't connect me to my computer using activesync in bluetooth.any idea?

hmmm, anyone tried entering a city or something using the HW keyboard? Mine inserts an extra character after every keypress, even the shift key. Kinda makes it impossible to enter using the KB.

i had this when i had both the tom tom program and map on my storage card
i have tom tom on the device and my map on the storage card root location named with the name of the map for the folder
Western_Europe_1GB_830_2306
and it works fine
im struggling to get speed cams installed

babak said:
i have another problema with tomtom(v.7.915) with tomtom installed can't connect me to my computer using activesync in bluetooth.any idea?
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Have you tried this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522373
It was posted in the Tips and Tricks sticky at the top of this section

This is interessting: I've uninstalled TomTom and reinstalled it. No luck!
However: if I start TomTom from the folder Programmabestanden\Navigator it DOES work!
It only doesn't start if I use the shortcut in the windows\start menu folder.

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hmmm, anyone tried entering a city or something using the HW keyboard? Mine inserts an extra character after every keypress, even the shift key. Kinda makes it impossible to enter using the KB.
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I seem to remember I had this problem on my Raphael/Touch Pro. Not sure but there may be a HW keyboard fix if you check out the forums over there. Whether or not it will work for the Rhodium/TP2 though is another thing. For me, it's not a problem to use the SW keyboard though.

i just soft reset or use cleanram before using tomtom. The problem is the leaky memory in the original Rhodium ROM. A new cooked ROM will most likely solve this one they become available

Do your Programs Close Automatically?

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do u guys have the same problem too?
give us a feedback
i use coreplayer to listen to my music.
but when i open a message and the coreplayer is left to play at the background, after a while the coreplayer exits itself. i takes a few seconds after i went into the messaging. or any other programs.
it seems like coreplayer wont run when other programs are running?
any idea on this guys?

Dude I've had that problem with CorePlayer for the last year and a half. It's the only reason I still use WM Player sometimes.
What happens is the program sees that the amount of memory it needs to operate isn't available and simply shuts down. Opera Mini 4.2 does the same exact thing.
It's annoying and the only solution I know of currently is to get a phone with more internal memory.

hmm.. well.. i have some ort of problem with the wm player.. the songs play just for 12 seconds and it will jump to the next song. every music is da same.. wonder whats the problem..
i didnt have problem last time when i was using boogs rom. i had opera mini with coreplayer running and the messaging program on. its basically 3 programs running at the same time. well tat rom had 30meg of free program memory after a fresh boot.
could be something to do with da rom?

well actually the memory is sufficient to run both messaging and coreplayer. theres still 10 megs left but it still shuts down on it own

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hmm.. well.. i have some ort of problem with the wm player.. the songs play just for 12 seconds and it will jump to the next song. every music is da same.. wonder whats the problem..
i didnt have problem last time when i was using boogs rom. i had opera mini with coreplayer running and the messaging program on. its basically 3 programs running at the same time. well tat rom had 30meg of free program memory after a fresh boot.
could be something to do with da rom?
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I run into that with Media Player sometimes also. I have no freaking clue why.

i have the same problem as well sometimes not with coreplayer but pocket tunes or beejive i think typing in the messaging app uses a lot of memory probably also the reason why half the time im waiting for my hermes when im already done waiting to press send

hmm.. seems like.. everyone should have this problem eh.. shud we bring more people in to discuss?

Of course we should. I believe there is a registry fix so programs do not automatically change. I'll do a search in a little bit and see what I find.
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Appears someone with our beloved Hermes ran into this late 2008. I don't know if this will work in WM 6.5 but we can try. It's the 3rd (last) post in the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463388

well im using 6.1. haha.. hopefully it works. trying out now. thanks!

Good. Please give me a detailed map of where you find it in the registry as I'm lost in the maze.

the registry edit needs HTC task manager on.. but im not using it.. im on wktask eh..

well.. i installed HTC task manager now.
the programs dont kill themselves automatically anymore until it reaches below 9mb or memory.
but i couldnt find the registry key there..
the "EnableAutokill" isnt there.

In Advanced Config --> HTC Task Manager --> Auto Kill
Put it to disabled.
It solved the problem for me for years. But I don't know why in the last 6.5 versions I have the same problem with it disable. Or maybe it's another different problem....

did the advanced config thing..
programs dont close on its own already.. good fix eh.

For those who returned TomTom 7

Hi,
i read a lot of posts about getting TomTom 7 to work and how it is not working on the TP2. HTC offers a 15 day trial of Copilot which supposedly works on the TP2. You can check it out at http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=595&news_id=185. I think it could be a nice and working alternative for a full blown navigation system on the TP2. Still better than trying all kinds of dubious fixes and hacks to get TT7 to work. Maybe it's something for you
Jan

What ever - say good bye to TT because of the procedure which you have to do when you change the device

I installed Garmin Mobile XT the other night, works well.
I really like how you can search on a street name and not have to put in the city first like tomtom makes you (so many times i couldnt find where i wanted to goto cause tomtom had it in some weird city)
Anyway, works really well...
Just going to have a look at tweaking it for better response later, as it seemed to pause a second before updating at intersections.

After buying TomTom Navigator 7 retail (on SD card) and finding it wan't install at all on my TP2, tried and finally registered Copilot 7: very happy with it, works fine on TP2 with no GPS delay

I downloaded the trial, and will give it a shot at the weekend.

It`s very wird for me what u all saing. For me Tom Tom ver. 7.19 working with no problem at all. I just bought my tp2, even did`t do hard reset, i did`t do anything, and tom tom works strait after instal it.

We are talking about the retail version of TT7 preinstalled on 4 GB microSD card: it refuses to install on any device that isn't on the official list, like Diamond and Raphael (tried unsuccessfully on TP2 and Xperia X1).

I am using TT6 Navigator (same version that was on my P3300) due to the lack of maps for North America.
I needed to install WVGAFIX3 before I was able to view TT6 correctly though.

I found that Copliot works fine, but can be quite innacurate at times. If I'm driving on a road that's next to a motorway, it can sometimes jump me onto the motorway which I never found with TomTom. The lag is not _too_ bad, but it's still not great, just better tham TT7.
I've just installed a trial for Navigon, and I have to say, it's more polished than CoPilot, and smoother than TT7, although there is still some lag which is REALLY beginning to frustrate me

I found Copilot to be quite inaccurate as well in my recent tests. I am downloading Navigon now and giving it a shot.

Hmm navigon 7 is constantly freezing the device. Which version did you install?

Managed to get it to work with the files provided for the Xperia http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443453. It looks pretty crappy as the graphics have not been adapted to WVGA, but In the end the navigation counts
Its a hellofalot faster than copilot anyways.

Too bad, there is not uninstall capability (copilot live downloaded from HTC support) when you done with the trial. So end up you have to delete the folder manually and not good cause it will stay at your registry.
Luckily I have a full backup before install this.

I use to be a TomTom user and always had problems finding the GPS unit if the GPS hadn’t been previously activated. I use to load either Goggle maps or Live Search, let the program active the GPS unit and then load TomTom, this worked 100% of the time.
I'm now a VERY happy Garmin XT user. No problem with finding the internal GPS unit, fast loading and very quick contact address search.

I did a two day test run with Copilot and Navigon and I found Navigon to be the much better solution. Copilots behaviour was erratic at best, it jumped between cities and even when it worked it was slow as hell and inaccurate. Navigon worked just fine and was fast and accurate as well so I'll stick to that one.
Ah and I had to manually kill Copilot as well as no uninstaller was there.

copilot 6 on touch pro 2
didnt want to start a new thread so i have resurrected this one. does anyone know if copilot 6 will work on the touch pro 2 (WM6.1). looked everywhere online but no answer. it seems i am the only broke dude trying to run such an old program on a shiny new device. (excuse is i,m waiting for copilot 8)

If copilot 6 did work it wouldn't look pretty - I ran my existing CP7 on the TP2 and the higher screen resolution distorted everything - personally having the wrong aspect ratio on things drives me up the wall so I found it pretty distracting.
Kudos to ALK support though, I emailed them asking about an upgrade of CP7 to CP7-HD (which does support the TP2) and they sorted it out for me without charge.

Thanks matey. Wont bother installing then. I didnt want to go through the stress of installing it and finding out it didnt work or look good. I actually bought copilot 7 HD but returned it cos it didnt say HD on the pack. I was also going to download it from ALK,s website but I thought, what the heck its almost 2 years old, Copilot 8 will be released soon so I,ll wait for that.
Cheers

CP7 loaded just fine on my TP2, and works (even in landscape mode), but it's method of telling you the routing is questionable (missed several turns and junctions, really disconcerting, the map's right, just the audio feedback seems stuffed to hell and back), and the less said about it's handling of things like POI and safety camera files from other sources is best left unsaid, or I'll go into foul language mode (seven %*£&%$ notifications after the other for each £%&$%* camera?!)...
I have to find a card adaptor for the next trial, which'll be Navigon...

I have to find a card adaptor for the next trial, which'll be Navigon...
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You don't need a card adaptor per se, I installed it on a usb memory stick and copied it later to the sd card on my TP2.

Help! The file cannont be opend. Either it is not signed...

I bought a new Touch HD (ROM 1.14.183.3 (22272) WWE) 2 months ago, with 16GB SD card.
I have a legal copy of IGO 8 installed and working perfectly.
However, ANY other program I install works for 1-2 days and then suddenly stops working with the message: "The file XXX cannont be opend. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found".
STrange enough, also its icon in the "programs" screen is changed into a dull "file" icon instead of the original.
This happened with Google Maps, a bunch of SPB programs I legally own and even some small free utilities.
Whenever I re-install the non-working program it works fine (again) for another 1-2 days and then the problem returns. The only "stable" program is the IGO 8.
I soft-resetted and hard-resetted the machine many times with no success.
The SD card seems to be OK- I have many media files on it (and the IGO 8) working perfectly.
Any ideas? It is frustrating to have such a powerfull a mobile device capable of only running a GPS app...
Nir

Have you applied any apps or customizations from this site? Often, many of these require sdkcerts to install unsigned apps. Usually the problem occurs a lot earlier and in some cases you can't install them in the first place, so not sure that this is the problem.
It is worth a try to install though I guess.