seriously low memory issues after upgrading to WM6 - HTC Excalibur

while on WM5 my free memory never really went below 10 M , even with several programs running.
loaded the new generic WM6 to my generic s620 and while it's nice looking, i'm having serious RAM problems. after a clean boot, free memory is around 18 M.
BUT, having a couple apps open like calendar, messaging, msn, it suddenly drops to only 2 MB available! right now, as I'm typing this it has 1,100K free ram and i have skype and IE open, everything else is closed. yes, ie cache is clean.
i did install voice command and at first suspected it for this sh*t but after disabling (removed from startup).
any ideas?
thx
Greg

Try uninstalling Skype and VoiceCommand for a few days, see how it runs then.

IE will also eat ram and not give it back until it is killed. I always remember to use celetask to close it after i'm done using it.

merwin said:
IE will also eat ram and not give it back until it is killed. I always remember to use celetask to close it after i'm done using it.
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Talking about kill process, what's the best task manager available for smartphone?
I don't know celetask but I'll give this a try.

The question is - does your device run slowly or not allow you to run applications? Or are you just worried about a small number?
I see the same thing on mine, but it nevers runs slow and I have never hit a 'no memory' problem.
I have calendar, inbox, tasks, contacts, phone history, IE, Communicator, MSN and File Explorer open.
I agree with the above post, IE is a hog and you need to kill it from time to time.
My s620 has been running the HTC official WM6 ROM since the day it was posted and I have rebooted once since then, and that was only because I shut it down for a long flight
Maybe I'm just not a 'power user'?

It's not slow but it kicks out some apps from time to time as there is not enough memory.
For example, when browsing with IE, Skype closes sometimes. That pisses me off.

Greg530 said:
It's not slow but it kicks out some apps from time to time as there is not enough memory.
For example, when browsing with IE, Skype closes sometimes. That pisses me off.
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That's normal behavior when system closes some apps for wiping memory, you should try to avoid big memory "eaters" and close some of them..
For me i always try to keep 3-4 apps opened and got no problems..

shtits said:
That's normal behavior when system closes some apps for wiping memory, you should try to avoid big memory "eaters" and close some of them..
For me i always try to keep 3-4 apps opened and got no problems..
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yep, I know this. My problem is that WM5 vs. WM6 --> 10 MB is missing "somewhere"....
I only have Messages and Skype running, everything else is closed. But when I launch IE and it kills Skype I get pissed!

I upgraded mine to wm6 and i have no idea whats wrong, it runs beyond slow! nothin running, and lag like no other! it gets so bad sometimes that i have to restart my phone, and to restart my phone i have to pull my micro sd because i guess it doesnt like 1gig sticks! how and what do i do to fix this! also i would re rom it but i just to want to have to go through the hassle of getting BBConnect working again!

Hmmm... doesn't make sense, as mine actually runs >a lot< faster. Is yours under warranty? Sounds like yours is defective, you should talk to your carrier about a replacement device
tHe sR5 said:
I upgraded mine to wm6 and i have no idea whats wrong, it runs beyond slow! nothin running, and lag like no other! it gets so bad sometimes that i have to restart my phone, and to restart my phone i have to pull my micro sd because i guess it doesnt like 1gig sticks! how and what do i do to fix this! also i would re rom it but i just to want to have to go through the hassle of getting BBConnect working again!
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Greg530 said:
yep, I know this. My problem is that WM5 vs. WM6 --> 10 MB is missing "somewhere"....
I only have Messages and Skype running, everything else is closed. But when I launch IE and it kills Skype I get pissed!
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I am not using Skype, but gonna think Skype is very "hungry" for memory, for ex for me: when no apps started i have 15mb free, after IE and other 3-4 apps it's 5-6mb free and still no problems..

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lag

Hi
I have my dash on 6.1
and after a while it starts to get laggy or really slow
any ideas what to do?
Off and On again
You can either restart as the phone tends to build up in the amount of programs being opened, or you can always click the tzones button and it will direct you to the task manager where u can close programs to make the phone less laggy...
Install (and then purchase) Celetask. Best darn task manager around and with its 'free memory' tool I can keep my dash at 18MB free program memory all day
You should also get SKTools, clean out the Notification Que once in a while.. that slows down the Dash as well.
Bupahs said:
Install (and then purchase) Celetask. Best darn task manager around and with its 'free memory' tool I can keep my dash at 18MB free program memory all day
You should also get SKTools, clean out the Notification Que once in a while.. that slows down the Dash as well.
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Celetask does not need to be purchased as it comes with the new 6.1 rom remade by Ricky... version 24...
i have celetask and free memory but still not running that smooth
there have been times where the phone just locks up and ihave to pull the battery out.
any other ideas why?
running winmo6.1
can be due to the fact that my phone is actively sync to exchange server??
hawee said:
i have celetask and free memory but still not running that smooth
there have been times where the phone just locks up and ihave to pull the battery out.
any other ideas why?
running winmo6.1
can be due to the fact that my phone is actively sync to exchange server??
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maybe cause it's actively synced to your gayness level, and it overloads the phone
jk, from my experience, whenever i install cabs, my phone ends up slowing down alot faster than a reflash without any cabs. maybe you could reflash and only install the cabs you need?
if not, then try restarting the phone often, cause its like those old computers we used to use back in the day where a restart was almost necessary every day
also, clearing the mass amounts of text messages (and deleting them from the trash) makes my dash faster
-vincent
motegi said:
maybe cause it's actively synced to your gayness level, and it overloads the phone
jk, from my experience, whenever i install cabs, my phone ends up slowing down alot faster than a reflash without any cabs. maybe you could reflash and only install the cabs you need?
if not, then try restarting the phone often, cause its like those old computers we used to use back in the day where a restart was almost necessary every day
also, clearing the mass amounts of text messages (and deleting them from the trash) makes my dash faster
-vincent
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Agree just try restarting it once a day as well as clearing up the texts... Also run SKTools in order to clean up and free some bytes... You can find the link to download SKTools below in the programs for smartphone... Just download the lite version okay if you would like... I also have the other version but read the readme file for that version...

crazy lag

hi
i'm running winmo 6.1 on my dash and i've been having a really hard time with it lately.
it's been lagging and running really slow
any ideas what i can do to get it running smoothly?
i delete all my msgs and emails everyday
i use the free memory program and constantly close all tasks
dont know what else to do other than get a better phone, which i cant seem to find
hawee said:
hi
i'm running winmo 6.1 on my dash and i've been having a really hard time with it lately.
it's been lagging and running really slow
any ideas what i can do to get it running smoothly?
i delete all my msgs and emails everyday
i use the free memory program and constantly close all tasks
dont know what else to do other than get a better phone, which i cant seem to find
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Best Practices for cleanup of files and general maintenance
Just restart your phone and see if it becomes a little quicker...

Do your Programs Close Automatically?

Come in and discuss
do u guys have the same problem too?
give us a feedback
i use coreplayer to listen to my music.
but when i open a message and the coreplayer is left to play at the background, after a while the coreplayer exits itself. i takes a few seconds after i went into the messaging. or any other programs.
it seems like coreplayer wont run when other programs are running?
any idea on this guys?
Dude I've had that problem with CorePlayer for the last year and a half. It's the only reason I still use WM Player sometimes.
What happens is the program sees that the amount of memory it needs to operate isn't available and simply shuts down. Opera Mini 4.2 does the same exact thing.
It's annoying and the only solution I know of currently is to get a phone with more internal memory.
hmm.. well.. i have some ort of problem with the wm player.. the songs play just for 12 seconds and it will jump to the next song. every music is da same.. wonder whats the problem..
i didnt have problem last time when i was using boogs rom. i had opera mini with coreplayer running and the messaging program on. its basically 3 programs running at the same time. well tat rom had 30meg of free program memory after a fresh boot.
could be something to do with da rom?
well actually the memory is sufficient to run both messaging and coreplayer. theres still 10 megs left but it still shuts down on it own
wyeyip said:
hmm.. well.. i have some ort of problem with the wm player.. the songs play just for 12 seconds and it will jump to the next song. every music is da same.. wonder whats the problem..
i didnt have problem last time when i was using boogs rom. i had opera mini with coreplayer running and the messaging program on. its basically 3 programs running at the same time. well tat rom had 30meg of free program memory after a fresh boot.
could be something to do with da rom?
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I run into that with Media Player sometimes also. I have no freaking clue why.
i have the same problem as well sometimes not with coreplayer but pocket tunes or beejive i think typing in the messaging app uses a lot of memory probably also the reason why half the time im waiting for my hermes when im already done waiting to press send
hmm.. seems like.. everyone should have this problem eh.. shud we bring more people in to discuss?
Of course we should. I believe there is a registry fix so programs do not automatically change. I'll do a search in a little bit and see what I find.
Edit:
Appears someone with our beloved Hermes ran into this late 2008. I don't know if this will work in WM 6.5 but we can try. It's the 3rd (last) post in the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463388
well im using 6.1. haha.. hopefully it works. trying out now. thanks!
Good. Please give me a detailed map of where you find it in the registry as I'm lost in the maze.
the registry edit needs HTC task manager on.. but im not using it.. im on wktask eh..
well.. i installed HTC task manager now.
the programs dont kill themselves automatically anymore until it reaches below 9mb or memory.
but i couldnt find the registry key there..
the "EnableAutokill" isnt there.
In Advanced Config --> HTC Task Manager --> Auto Kill
Put it to disabled.
It solved the problem for me for years. But I don't know why in the last 6.5 versions I have the same problem with it disable. Or maybe it's another different problem....
did the advanced config thing..
programs dont close on its own already.. good fix eh.

Internal Error :0

Greetings.
I have Sprint TP2. It's a stock install except I disabled touchflo3d and i'm using plain WinMo home screen.
Ever since yesterday I noticed that when I check my phone after its been in sleep mode for a few minutes there is a small popup window waiting for me on the home screen.
Title of that popup window is "Internal Error"
Body is a red X icon and text ":0"
If i press ok button that window goes away but then after a few minutes its back.
Rebooting the phone doesn't solve this.
How would i troubleshoot/solve this?
Have you installed any software that didn't come on the phone? If so, try uninstalling one by one to see if you find your troublesome app. If you have all stock software the best bet would be to hard reset. But be sure to backup all data (contact, text messages, etc) if you hard reset.
I have the same issue. mxxcon, did you ever determine root cause?
I'm getting the same thing on both of my Touch Pro 2's, one is with Verizon and the other is with U.S. Cellular, and it seems to have started for me tonight. It's not hurting anything that I can tell, just annoying. However, I'm not seeing it on my HTC Pure (AT&T), so it seems to be specific to the Touch Pro 2.
Edit-It looks like it might be related to the newest version of Google Maps, I wonder if leaving it running in the background is causing this?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=99760
I have the same issue on my ATT Fuze. It is definitely the goggle map application, I wonder if its cause i have it running on the SD card.
Anyone else having the problem?
i think its has to do with lattitude with google maps when you exit say no to keep shareing your location i just tried it let ya know what happens
well so far 20 mins later no error message
Tilt google maps :0 sd card
paul201 said:
goggle map application, I wonder if its cause i have it running on the SD card.
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Thanks for the idea.
ATT Tilt, WM6.1
I nominate for The 2010 Most Useless Error Message Award ":0" --> read: "I have no plonking clue." LOL!!!
Hard reset, install google maps 3.1 to SD, returns :0 on the first try.
(It -may- have even trashed my email and messaging - desktop icons stopped working - but not willing to re-re-re-re-reinstall to test that further.)
Just for fun, uninstall GM, install from CAB to SD and returns :0 simply on the **install**!!!!!!
Hard reset, changed install to main memory rather than SD, and it installed and ran perfectly on the first try. Several soft resets later it still runs like a bunny.
Actually GM is working better than previously. I used to get constant failures from GM to connect to the GPS in the phone ('not found' and such). I used to have to -first- turn on VisualGPSce, and -then- GM would find it immediately. GM is now aaallll grown up and can now do that aaallll by itself.
Have a day!
Jim
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[Q] Phone Freezing Over Night

Apologies if this has been posted before, I did look but couldn't seem to find the exact same issue.
I've had my phone for just under a year, no real problems. But late last month it restarted over night and since then it started freezing every night when I left it charging. At first I thought it was crashing but the charge light would still be on but all buttons would be unresponsive. The only thing I could do to regain control of my phone was to remove the battery.
I contacted HTC who suggested factory reset...which I don't really want to do. As my phone was only freezing once a day (over night) it wasn't all that bad. To be honest I thought it was an issue with it charging.
For reasons I can't remember, I removed an app that I never used; it was using 2mb space and couldn't be put on the SD. Once removed, the freezing stopped happening and there was much rejoicing...until last night.
I decided to download another app and the freezing happened again over night. I've since removed that app but here's the rub, why is this happening?
The fact it's happening whenever I download more apps to my phone seems to point to a memory issue but my phone has 1.6GB on the SD and 53mb on the phone itself.
I still haven't tried a factory reset and as I've had it less than a year, HTC said I can return it; but there's no guarantee this will fix it and I like my little phone, so if there's a way I can resolve this issue I'll rather do that before trying more drastic measures.
I hope someone can help.
Are you rooted? If that's the case, and, you are charging the phone when it is switched off, what you are experiencing is a known bug.
Also, although unrelated, it is really not recommended to charge your battery overnight or for extended periods. Charge only till it is full.
Nope, not rooted. Just a plain, bog-standard out the box Wildfire.
Thanks for the heads up regarding the charging though Since I bought it (July last year) I had been charging over night on most days but I'll switch to just charging it for a few hours till it's full now.
I guess in case it'll help I'll give a little more info: While charging I leave my phone switched on and I rarely restart my phone unless it drops signal. Only recently with the freezing have I had issues with using it and had to restart it frequently. I'm not a techie person so I've not played around with the phone other than putting on apps, where possible I put them onto SD. My phone is unlocked and I use it on the O2 network.
make a factory reset bro. it tells u whether the issue is with hardware or software. kept under charging mode just heats up the phone by a little level. this dont normally freeze the phone.
but if u r downloading something with data connection, or bluetooth, or wifi and kept charging overnight, then the battery gets overheated heavily which freezes the phone. it is quite normal and is experienced by people who keep overnight downloads.
and further there may be application conflicts in ur phone, which make it slow and freeze. i expect this is the issue with u.
if u r sure that u r not using any data connections, then i suggest u to factory reset ur phone. before that backup all the data. i dont understand what makes u from not doing the factory reset.
Over night my phone is idle while charging. Though I have data enabled (no wifi at home), it's not downloading anything and I have auto sync switched off.
I would have thought if this was an application issue it would have started after installing this dodgy app and also continue until I unistalled. This hasn't been the case. When it started happening I hadn't installed anything other than updates for weeks or maybe months. During the week while it was having this issue, I had installed 1 app (Photoshop).
It has only frozen once during the day, right after work; that was the time I finally thought I'll have to factory reset. So I was writing down all my apps in a notepad so I knew what I had and where they were (I'm fussy with my screen setup). I decided to remove 2 apps I never used (8Pen and Photoshop), I thought I'll leave it 1 night just in case and that night though it never froze, so I didn't reset.
Since then it's been working fine for 3 weeks till last night when I downloaded another app. So it seems random, it's not associated with a particular app and comes and goes.
The reason I'm cautious about factory resetting is that it deletes everything. Though I have backed contacts up to MyLookOut and to my SD card, I'll still loose my apps and data and so I'm not keen on doing it. Not using wifi means it's heafty on my 500mb data package to redownload them again and then I'm unsure if i'll have to upgrade to Froyo again.
End of the day it just seems like a "Turn it off and on again" answer and as it comes and goes and doesn't seem to have a reason why it happens so randomly I don't want to factory reset if there's another way.
Idavoll said:
Over night my phone is idle while charging. Though I have data enabled (no wifi at home), it's not downloading anything and I have auto sync switched off.
I would have thought if this was an application issue it would have started after installing this dodgy app and also continue until I unistalled. This hasn't been the case. When it started happening I hadn't installed anything other than updates for weeks or maybe months. During the week while it was having this issue, I had installed 1 app (Photoshop).
It has only frozen once during the day, right after work; that was the time I finally thought I'll have to factory reset. So I was writing down all my apps in a notepad so I knew what I had and where they were (I'm fussy with my screen setup). I decided to remove 2 apps I never used (8Pen and Photoshop), I thought I'll leave it 1 night just in case and that night though it never froze, so I didn't reset.
Since then it's been working fine for 3 weeks till last night when I downloaded another app. So it seems random, it's not associated with a particular app and comes and goes.
The reason I'm cautious about factory resetting is that it deletes everything. Though I have backed contacts up to MyLookOut and to my SD card, I'll still loose my apps and data and so I'm not keen on doing it. Not using wifi means it's heafty on my 500mb data package to redownload them again and then I'm unsure if i'll have to upgrade to Froyo again.
End of the day it just seems like a "Turn it off and on again" answer and as it comes and goes and doesn't seem to have a reason why it happens so randomly I don't want to factory reset if there's another way.
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u r worrying about loosing data on factory reset. but do u know that u can backup each and everything on the phone including the apps downloaded from market.
ok, i will try to give a software solution. first uninstall all the file managers and app managers in your phone. then go to market and download "ANDROID ASSISTANT". this little app has many features. explore it and u will know its potential. it has a nice option called QUICK BOOST. when u press this quick boost on a heavily stuck phone, u will feel like ur phone got a new life. it makes the phone response faster in seconds.
and further it has auto boost option, which can be set to a minimum of 10minutes. this auto boost will help u in preventing the freeze issue. hope it works. the present version of android assistant is 2.3.3
trying to attach u that one
Many thanks.
How do you backup apps? I know they'll appear in the download list but I'll rather not have to redownload them all, plus I have a few not from the marketplace. I've read that during a factory reset even apps which are apparently "saved" on the SD card are removed because they're not 100% saved onto it. So if you know of a way to back them up I would be most grateful.
Thanks for the Android Assistant.apk too, I'll be sure to look into that! Though I always thought anything that force closed apps wasn't always good - I previously used Task Killer and removed it after being told it could be the route of a force close email app issue I was getting.
Edit: Just got back home and during the journey my phone had frozen!! I had hoped it was a space issue but I've not downloaded any new apps and have even removed some during the day. So my previous thought that this was some how connected to storage on my phone must be wrong. So what on Earth can it be? It's not constant, in fact, like I said I've had this phone for 9 months give or take and it's been fine. So why now and why only sometimes does it freeze?
Idavoll said:
Many thanks.
How do you backup apps? I know they'll appear in the download list but I'll rather not have to redownload them all, plus I have a few not from the marketplace. I've read that during a factory reset even apps which are apparently "saved" on the SD card are removed because they're not 100% saved onto it. So if you know of a way to back them up I would be most grateful.
Thanks for the Android Assistant.apk too, I'll be sure to look into that! Though I always thought anything that force closed apps wasn't always good - I previously used Task Killer and removed it after being told it could be the route of a force close email app issue I was getting.
Edit: Just got back home and during the journey my phone had frozen!! I had hoped it was a space issue but I've not downloaded any new apps and have even removed some during the day. So my previous thought that this was some how connected to storage on my phone must be wrong. So what on Earth can it be? It's not constant, in fact, like I said I've had this phone for 9 months give or take and it's been fine. So why now and why only sometimes does it freeze?
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yes freezing also happens when there is very low phone free memory. when ur apps get filled in phone and keep on decreasing its memory, it is more likely that ur phone gets freezed. its always better to keep a 30MB free phone memory. remember data and cache also use phone memory, so the free memory will be generally unpredictable with minor errors. have u got any idea of a windows pc freezing. a windows pc freezes if there is some errors in registry. that is the reason why i have suggested u to make factory reset first to eliminate the software issues.
u asked me a solution to backup ur apps, right.
firstly i wanna introduce u about the backing up of applications.
android applications will be in the .apk file format and u know this. this .apk file is an installable archive just like .exe of windows OS. opening the .apk files from a file manager installs the program files of that application. but when u download the applications from android market, u will not get the .apk files. the android market installs the program files directly. but we can still create an .apk file from these program files and app managers will do that function. both the files im attaching u below will do that function.
here im attaching u two applications (.apk files)
one is APP CONTROL. i recommend u to use this. it can be used with android assistant installed. both of them work fine. the APP CONTROL version i gave u is an older version and is a full version. A newer version of APP CONTROL is available in the android market, but it is not free. so i strongly recommend u to use this. it has a great feature to backup all ur apps at a single click. the apps backed up by it will be saved as .apk files under the path
MEMORY CARD/backups/apps
i recommend u to back up all ur phone and mem card apps at a time with a single click. explore this APP CONTROL.
i dont want to give a detailed explanation of the other file ANDROID APP MANAGER, because i wont recommend u to use this. im just attaching u this because of only one reason, that APP CONTROL is presently not a full version. using of it is entirely at your personal intrest.
I took your advice and did a factory reset - backed everything up so it wasn't as painful as I first thought it would be. Managed to reinstall everything and so far so good (touch wood) but the original issue was sporadic and so only time will tell.
I have noticed since the reset that my phone memory, which was 50mb before, is now 100mb. So hopefully this will mean that I'm not forced to limit what I download.
Such a shame the Wildfire doesn't have more memory
Thanks again for the help and I'll post if the issue occurs again.
Idavoll said:
I took your advice and did a factory reset - backed everything up so it wasn't as painful as I first thought it would be. Managed to reinstall everything and so far so good (touch wood) but the original issue was sporadic and so only time will tell.
I have noticed since the reset that my phone memory, which was 50mb before, is now 100mb. So hopefully this will mean that I'm not forced to limit what I download.
Such a shame the Wildfire doesn't have more memory
Thanks again for the help and I'll post if the issue occurs again.
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that 50 MB and 100 MB may be due to app memory + cache memory. if u have interrupted the download android apps from market, and have every downloading app partly downloaded and interrupted. then that partly downloaded apps go to the cache memory of MARKET application. u can try and check this.
similarly there will be cache memory for every application. i expect all those cache memories got built up and ate 50 MB of ur phone memory. if it is so, it says that how vigourously u have used ur phone regarding applications.
these cache memories wont get cleaned just on restrating phone, and u should manually clean them either through the phones inbuilt process or through the applications having keywords of cache cleaner.
there is somewhat that i dont like in android apps. which is the application doing extra functions other than its name. now a days, u can see many file managers in android market. and those file managers suppose to have the fuction of explorer of android file system. but they will have additional features like combined app manager, cache cleaner, uninstaller, installer.
this makes the different applications conflict with each other and slow down the os. thats the thing i hate here. i have to choose priority in apps, and sometimes need to avoid nice apps due to that reason.
Well, my phone has just froze again Sent an email to HTC (already had an email chain going with them so I just updated my ticket) and asked them what to try next.
On the plus side at least they won't keep telling me to factory reset!
Idavoll said:
Well, my phone has just froze again Sent an email to HTC (already had an email chain going with them so I just updated my ticket) and asked them what to try next.
On the plus side at least they won't keep telling me to factory reset!
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HOPE U HAVE ELIMINATED THE SOFTWARE ISSUE
OK. hope the phone froze without even single app being installed.
suppose if the freeze was a software issue, then u have backed up the app causing freeze. let us think this like a virus. if u had reinstalled that app again, ur phone is likely to freeze again.
i haven't heard of virusses if android os, but i have seen many antivirus programs for android. even the great kaspersky recently added its support for android. the existance of antivirus programs proove the existance of virusses.
so, try to remember if u have installed any backed up app frm mem card.
Im personally guessing that ur phone freeze was not a software issue. ur phone might be having hardware issues.
giving to a service centre might solve the problem, but im not pretty sure. and moreover, if they update ur phone to froyo, u cant even root. (i dont remember what ur phone is on now). and even u cant make those service centre guys see ur problem, as u dont know when it freezes. i expect, what all they are gonna do to ur phone is factory reset, or reinstall the os.

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