Tethering with NFSFAN's ROM's and Bell's Unlimited Mobile Browser - Touch CDMA Windows Mobile ROM Development

Hi everyone,
What is the story on tethering the HTC Touch with NFSFAN's latest WM6.5 ROM? I heard there was a patch that prevented Bell from realizing it was tethered data usage? Can anyone confirm?
The Fish

thefish123 said:
Hi everyone,
What is the story on tethering the HTC Touch with NFSFAN's latest WM6.5 ROM? I heard there was a patch that prevented Bell from realizing it was tethered data usage? Can anyone confirm?
The Fish
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YES
It works just fine, and has for me in every ROM version out there.
Just remember it is called "unlimited mobile browser"......not unlimited data. There is a difference. I use mine when internet is not available and I want to use my laptop instead of the phone to browse XDA, etc. I wouldn't tether and start downloading torrents or songs from limewire etc. That kind of "data" would probably raise a flag. Can you think of any browsing on your phone + gps use (say...google maps) + titanium / m2d weather etc that would use 200mb in an hour????? Probably not, so I use it for browsing, not downloading.
I believe there is a screenshot available on page 1 of NFSFAN's ROM thread.

jmitr said:
YES
It works just fine, and has for me in every ROM version out there.
Just remember it is called "unlimited mobile browser"......not unlimited data. There is a difference. I use mine when internet is not available and I want to use my laptop instead of the phone to browse XDA, etc. I wouldn't tether and start downloading torrents or songs from limewire etc. That kind of "data" would probably raise a flag. Can you think of any browsing on your phone + gps use (say...google maps) + titanium / m2d weather etc that would use 200mb in an hour????? Probably not, so I use it for browsing, not downloading.
I believe there is a screenshot available on page 1 of NFSFAN's ROM thread.
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I was under the impression that there was a “special” way that Bell could tell that you were tethering under the official ROM. I thought there was a “hack” that removed this so that Bell could not tell (except perhaps by shear volume) if you were tethered or not.
How “safe” is it to use it for casual (ie. web browsing, email) internet usage? Am I going to get dinged with a huge bill?
Or, is there no such “special way” that Bell could tell even if I was still using the official ROM?
The Fish

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I was under the impression that there was a “special” way that Bell could tell that you were tethering under the official ROM. I thought there was a “hack” that removed this so that Bell could not tell (except perhaps by shear volume) if you were tethered or not.
How “safe” is it to use it for casual (ie. web browsing, email) internet usage? Am I going to get dinged with a huge bill?
Or, is there no such “special way” that Bell could tell even if I was still using the official ROM?
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They can't tell your tethered, it is safe for casual browsing.
I was just warning you about the "sheer volume". You think it would be common sense not to tether and then download movies but you know some people.

I use it once in a blue moon just for browsing, and never was charged any extra, but i use a WDM rom, as long as no one abuses it we should be fine.

Torrents away!
I have pushed over 14 gigs a month on telus using my vogue as a tether, faster than my rogers lite! Have been doing this since Rev A in Sept 08.

Yup, they won't find out if no one goes and uses more than 4 GB in a month (Sprint)

thefish123 said:
Hi everyone,
What is the story on tethering the HTC Touch with NFSFAN's latest WM6.5 ROM? I heard there was a patch that prevented Bell from realizing it was tethered data usage? Can anyone confirm?
The Fish
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Like others said, it's safe!
I've used multiple NFSFAN ROMs over the past year + on my Bell Touch, and have never run into tether charges. One month I did about 8GB of data tethered to my Acer Aspire One while travelling out of province, and no overage at all.

Just woundering something:
And how exactly do you "tether"?

t1mman said:
Just woundering something:
And how exactly do you "tether"?
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Connect your phone to your (generally) laptop and wait for a pop up on the phone to ask whether you want to share it's internet connection to the PC.
That's all there is to it, at least with NFSFANs ROM.

Antboy said:
Connect your phone to your (generally) laptop and wait for a pop up on the phone to ask whether you want to share it's internet connection to the PC.
That's all there is to it, at least with NFSFANs ROM.
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Nice! Thanks!

everytime i connect using internet sharing it disconnects seconds later, any ideas or fixes on this

anyone know how to tether with bluetooth os osx 10.5?
i can pair the phone for things like the sailing clicker remote but bluetooth pan wont work and i think ftp stopped working aswell any ideas?
as for using data on there pamphlets they at least used to mention downloading and streaming things like videos,messaging
so i asked at a bell store about the data stuff i could use and i asked about torrenting and showed WMtorrent and they said as long as i followed the abuse policy anything is fine they even noted it on my account
so if torrenting a say 1gb file on the phone is fine and tethering looks as if the data originated on the phone
whats the difference if the torrent was tethered or from the phone its self
currently this month ive used 4.38gb of data and no issues ive done above 6 before though

I use wifirouter to tether with since my internet sharing doesnt seem to want to stay connected for no more than 5 minutes and i play world of warcraft everyday using my vogue for internet and i have used as much as 10 gigs of bandwith and never got charged thru sprint as long as you have the unlimited data on your service plan, which i have the unlimited everything plan with sprint, been doing this for about 3 years now and never once got charged.

I have been tethering the Vogue now for over a year. Streaming, DLing firmwares, upgraded client blackberries, downloaded tunes. Basically done what ever I want. BUT Not often. once or ywice a week.
LOL, as a point though. I do use it for internet radio (resco) for HOURS at a time on device (& up to 9GB/month). so if they ever had an issue, I'd just blame it on that.
Ironically my bill only shows about 10MB of usage!

Im also having trouble like DWC316 my connection shows it is good, but I still cant get any web pages to load Im on sprint and I did have some issues getting my data connection with nfsfans v14 but now it works great on the phone but not on the laptop when I tether...any Ideas?

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[Q] rooted 3g drop on wireless tether.

Im running Skyraider 3.5 sence with s-off radio 2.15.0.07.28 build 3.26.605.1
Im running into a problem with wireless tether 2.0.5 pre 14 or any version will stop working after a few mins. i have looked for something on here but I have been unable to find a fix. So I'm wondering if there is one. If there is im sorry for the repost. i can't seem to figure it out.
If any knows the right way to fix this im all ears.
This was one of the biggest reasons for rooting my phone. It worked great before 2.2 came out. Once I went to 2.2 rooted it stoped completely. I rooted into 2.2 using a method from Mejdam on youtube. I even tried the stock method that was on here to go back to 2.2. Then rerooted with unrev. still nothing.
Thanks.
Me 2
I seldom ever use my wifi tethering...but when I noticed the version number in your post, I decided to upgrade, and found 2.0.5 RC1. I decided to test this new version out because last time I used wifi tether, it worked fine. I think I was using pre-10 (it came with SkyRaider 3.3). Well, I am noticing the same problem. It starts out just fine, really fast & responsive, then after a minute or so it goes intermittent, the 3G icon comes and goes and it just becomes worthless. We are both using SkyRaider 3.5. My baseband radio is newer though.
Anyone else?
UPDATE: if you have a file: "\system\etc\sysctl.conf" then rename it, reboot your phone and try wifi tethering again. This fixed this problem for me.
Lexus One said:
I seldom ever use my wifi tethering...but when I noticed the version number in your post, I decided to upgrade, and found 2.0.5 RC1. I decided to test this new version out because last time I used wifi tether, it worked fine. I think I was using pre-10 (it came with SkyRaider 3.3). Well, I am noticing the same problem. It starts out just fine, really fast & responsive, then after a minute or so it goes intermittent, the 3G icon comes and goes and it just becomes worthless. We are both using SkyRaider 3.5. My baseband radio is newer though.
Anyone else?
UPDATE: if you have a file: "\system\etc\sysctl.conf" then rename it, reboot your phone and try wifi tethering again. This fixed this problem for me.
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Rename the "sysctl.conf" to what?
I've also been having this problem for a long time now and so far haven't found any fixes.
I looked for the file you are talking about and cannot find it using Root Explorer, either I don't have it or it's hiding really well.
Also does anyone know where I can get the stock 3G Hotspot app?
VZ has blocked you on certain tethering traffic due to 3g abuse without the tethering contact ($20/mo).
I have experienced VZ blocking various 3g tethering activity on my previous phones. This block is based on the phone's EIS#.
When I changed phones, the block was gone until I spent a couple solid days on my corporate vpn.
I've recently been blocked from my corporate vpn again. I don't know what steps I'll take to get it re-enabled, but I suspect I'll enable their tether contract, to open my access, but shortly cancel (pro rate cost).
I don't know when i'll take time to do this..
Let me know if you have success with this.
luvit said:
VZ has blocked you on certain tethering traffic due to 3g abuse without the tethering contact ($20/mo).
I have experienced VZ blocking various 3g tethering activity on my previous phones. This block is based on the phone's EIS#.
When I changed phones, the block was gone until I spent a couple solid days on my corporate vpn.
I've recently been blocked from my corporate vpn again. I don't know what steps I'll take to get it re-enabled, but I suspect I'll enable their tether contract, to open my access, but shortly cancel (pro rate cost).
I don't know when i'll take time to do this..
Let me know if you have success with this.
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I had a gut feeling that VW had something to do with it once 2.2 came out and they offered the 3g hotspot for $25. Ill keep looking to see if anyone is able to get around it. I'm not gunna hold my breath though.
It's not a 2.2 thing our a smart phone thing. This has existed since my first experience in 2004, on a basic cell phone tethering with 1X.
It's easier for VZ to block us rather than hold us to the End User Agreement.
I should be able to call VZ soon to enable their tethering, see if it opens my access, then cancel the tethering service for a prorate charge of 1 day.. By the weekend.
luvit said:
It's not a 2.2 thing our a smart phone thing. This has existed since my first experience in 2004, on a basic cell phone tethering with 1X.
It's easier for VZ to block us rather than hold us to the End User Agreement.
I should be able to call VZ soon to enable their tethering, see if it opens my access, then cancel the tethering service for a prorate charge of 1 day.. By the weekend.
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From what I recall reading in the past, Verizon cannot tell if you are tethering when using the 3rd party wifi tethering application. Are your comments based on your own experience, or can you supply a link that suggests Verizon is blocking our tethering applications.
EDIT: Just FYI, I found another thread, specifically on this subject:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-general-discussions/96761-verizon-blocking-tether.html
beecker said:
Rename the "sysctl.conf" to what?
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I just renamed mine to "sysctl.conf.bak"
The file above was added by myself back when first posted that it would "increase your 3G speeds." And it actually did for me. But I suspected it when I tested the latest version of the wifi tethering application. When I renamed the file, things got instantly better as far as tethering goes... I have been using my wireless tether application for a little over an hour now with absolutely no problems.
So this was a guess on my part, but my tethering is now working fine and not dropping my connection. I hope this works for you as it has for me. If you don't have the file on your phone, then it's time to look elsewhere.
(don't forget to reboot after renaming the file)
Lexus One said:
From what I recall reading in the past, Verizon cannot tell if you are tethering when using the 3rd party wifi tethering application. Are your comments based on your own experience, or can you supply a link that suggests Verizon is blocking our tethering applications.
EDIT: Just FYI, I found another thread, specifically on this subject:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-general-discussions/96761-verizon-blocking-tether.html
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My comments point-out that VZ can safely assume you're abusing tethering by the amount of data used within a certain timeframe. -- an amount that is not typically possible when only using phone and apps (non-tethering traffic).
Thinking back on the first time I encountered this in 2004, I did call VZ tech support. This was their answer.-

ATT tethering and internet issue

not sure if anyone is using their phone while tethering to another device but when i tried to use my phone while tethering, i'm getting a lot of drop connection. It's so bad that while using the stock "internet" application to browse the site or streaming music from sites; it won't load. All this goes away when i shut down the hot spot tethering.
i'm on stock ATT rom with no trip counter flash root and tether mod. if you're having this issue or had this in the past, please leave some feedback and comment as to how you've fixed it. thanks
You are probably getting throttled while on the call. AT&T recently implemented a silent throttle of about 1mbps down and 20kbps up while talking on the phone. This makes all but the simplest web browsing impossible. Using the internet while talking on the phone used to be a feature that made AT&T better. Funny, they still advertise it as a benefit.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app
Since all stock ROMs are really the same - try AOKP and CM10, see if they're better in this regard.
so i wasn't on call. i was actually streaming music online using the stock "internet application" from Sammy. let me try to explain again.
hot spot is enable - stock app from ATT rom and my Asus tablet is connected. i then stream music using the internet application / similar to the "browser" application on the asus through a website. so basically using flash to listen to music online. then i use my Asus tablet to surf the net. when doing that, i can not stream music at all on my phone.
Maybe you just don't have the mobile bandwidth for it? Is your signal strong? Have you tried running a Speedtest to see what kind of DL speeds you're getting?
i'm having a hard time with the speedtest on this S3. first it's connecting to some far away server than the one that i'm used to and the speed is horrendous. .23 up and .20 down - what in the hell is that!
i get a different connection result when i used my tablet and do the speed test while tethering off my phone.
WEird!

[Q] CM 10.1 on TMobile S2 Wifi/Tether + MHL Question

i currently run cm 10.2 / on 4.3.1. for my tmobile t989.
my question is. why when i run the stock wifi hotspot app will it allow my wii to connect and use my phones data to run netflix. hulu. etc. insted of mobile hotspot minutes like my desktop does. this is not bad for me. its actually close to what i am trying to accomplish by installing roms to begin with. why will my computer take my data from the free 2.5 gb mobile hotspot minutes. but my wii uses my phone data? keeping in mind i pay for unlimited data. so im not concerned with my phones data being used. is it possible to get free tethering on tmobile? i have heard of barrnicle and foxfi. they havent worked though. also curious if its possoble to make my mhl cable work with this cm version. it worked before. ic you can help. i would really appretiate it. im really curious if anyone has got around tmobiles hotspot bs.

[Q] Anyone having problems with rooted tether on T-Mobile?

Strange, not sure if anyone else is having this issue but I've never had a problem before. T-Mobile is somehow able to really track my tethering even though I'm using TrevE Mod tethering app with my rooted S4. I used to be able to tether a ton without any issues at all. I also didn't have to use VPN which slows down the connection some.
I'm running Evil1rom 4.3 Wicked_v10 with baseband version M919UVUFNB4.
Anyone else recently experiencing this issue? I think T-Mobile is really cracking down now since they really want people to pay for every thing they have.
I searched the threads and couldn't find anything similar to this and if it's in the wrong section please move it.
Noticed that too, I using GPE ROM 5.0.1 and was able to teher unlimited with no problems like a month ago now I cant. Thought it was the ROM updates I had but I flashed one of the previous one and no luck, I wish someone cone with a hack.
No problems here with Xposed moto tether.
Running stock/rooted NH7 , tmo unlimited plan no tether plan.
Using tethering during travel when wifey does her Netflix / Prime / YouTube video binging, mostly while on long drives or at the park (out of WiFi range ) on the tablet, averaging about 11/2 to 3 hrs at most.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
No problems here with Xposed moto tether.
Running stock/rooted NH7 , tmo unlimited plan no tether plan.
Using tethering during travel when wifey does her Netflix / Prime / YouTube video binging, mostly while on long drives or at the park (out of WiFi range ) on the tablet, averaging about 11/2 to 3 hrs at most.
Pp.
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Do you know if that works on lollipop?
Don't think so. From what I hear xposed isn't working with lollipop yet.
Pp.
Yes. I can confirm this. Rooted, Knox free, original 4.4.2. w Tree mod and tether signed zip mod...
Was working fine without vpn.. for many Gigs..
now I keep getting notices I'm at my 5gb allowance via text. Maybe they are sniffing a new type of packet data..
thought it was just me...
Hope this gets fixed.
Cheers

Tethered device is crawling along at around 0.20Mbps

Not sure if anyone is even reading posts on the Note 8 but here goes
I've had this phone for a few years. It was running stock Android 9. I have the base unlimited plan from Verizon on this phone which means no tethering. So I thought.... I'm in the market for a new phone so if I brick this one, no big deal. I read that once rooted, you could enable tethering with any unlimited plan so after some Googling, I found a site that walked me through installing a rooted copy of Nougat.
Once it was on there, I was able to enable tethering and I attached my kid's iPad and away she went..............at 0.20Mbps. I remember a LONG time ago that you could bypass this artificial speed limit on tethered devices by messing with the DUN/TTL stuff but I think Verizon caught onto that. Then I tried a NetShare and PdaNet and while they DID solve the speed problem, some apps on the iPad (Roblox for example) give me a network error (guess it doesn't like going through a proxy that those 2 apps set up?). I also read that using a VPN connection can solve this problem too but a friend of mine messed with VPN stuff on his phone and I just remember him complaining about connection problems with apps from time to time so I'm trying to avoid that scenario.
At this point, I'm thinking about just going back to Pie and using NetShare and telling my kid that only YouTube will work when tethering unless somebody can point me to some settings I can mess with, now that I have root access, to speed up a tethered device.
TLDR: With my fancy root access, can anything be done to speed up a tethered device THAT DOES NOT involve having to mess with buying a VPN account?
PS I can't help but feel Verizon is intentionally slowing down my network speed on this old Android phone. In the 2 years I've been using my Note 8, surfing the internet on 4GLTE has gotten noticeably slower as time goes on. My speed tests always come back around 5Mbps and my wife's iPhone 11 (or 12?) FLIES when she's surfing the internet.

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