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Is the desire worth buying

Hi guys,
My G1 will be out of contract very soon and I wanted to find out what experiences you'd had with your shiny new Desires.
Things like Battery Life...
Gps Reliability...
Ability to install non market Apps...
Whats the HD recorder Like.....
speed of the device.....
Any problems you've encountered...?
Overall thoughts....?
Should I buy a Desire really

Best value Smartphone I have ever bought (and I buy about 3 a year). I suspect its not as good as the Vivaz for HD video recording and the battery life is probably not as good as the Nokia E52 but overall with all the features taken into account it is the best Smartphone on the market today. I can't believe its so cheap - UK prices can as low as £390 SIM free and even on contract you can get one for a little as £404 when you take account of all the costs. The two areas where it excels is speed and screen quality.

For me, it was more than worth buying. I'm actually saving money from the old O2 contract I was on. I'll have actually recouped the upfront cost of my Desire after the first 14 months of my new two year contract with T-mobile.
I couldn't afford to NOT switch.

For specific issues, they are all over the forum. Beware of issues that don't concern you like battery issues of people who literally browse and play media most of the day.
If you want the media critical view...
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Simply the best smartphone available today.
Trusted Reviews
As for the Nexus One, ... we prefer the Desire...
Engadget
They said that the Nexus One took the smartphone to a new level and the term 'superphone' has been used a few times. If that's the case then I don't know what superlative I would use for the HTC Desire. Uber-phone perhaps?
Tracy and Matt
An even more desireable Nexus One
Gizmodo
In short, this is a phenomenal phone...
TechRadar
The number one phone available in the world today. ... it's like a Nexus One only better.
TechRadar
Much has been made of the fact that the HTC Desire is really Google's much-touted Nexus One. But, truth be told,... the Desire has several features that mark it out as superior not just to Google's smart phone debut, but also to the vast majority of smartphones available on planet earth.
The Register
If that doesn't indicate if it's "worth buying", I'm guessing you may have specific requirements. (I actually had this list pre-prepared for a friend who got the Nexus One saying it's better - hence the inclusion of many Nexus One references!)
It's not perfect, but it's great now, and has great potential for the future.

It seems to me that the desire is a great phone. Possibly the first to really comprehensively deliver on the promise of Android (responsiveness, full flash browser soon, good hardware, nice form factor, what I currently believe to be the best phone operating system). It will be, quite rightly, a massive seller.
Unfortunately it lacks a front facing camera, which is a dealbreaker for me.

trentend said:
Unfortunately it lacks a front facing camera, which is a dealbreaker for me.
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Someone who actually does video calling??? I thought you guys were a Myth!!

rhedgehog said:
Someone who actually does video calling??? I thought you guys were a Myth!!
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They are really just super vain people who can't bare to stop taking pictures of themselves so do it discretely even when on calls!
(Cleargrey bobs and weaves for the insults that come flying his way!)

worth it? yes i mean i'm a student (15) earn just over £150 a month so doing the sums takes about 3 months for me to save enuf for this phone considering the odd penny i spend here and there, and yes this phone is worth it amazing screen and all. when i tell people i spent £400 on a phone they are like , but i just reply by saying you wouldn't be saying that if i'd bought and iphone, i tend to just stop there and not go into depth about how this phone runs rings round the iphone, my dad has an iphone he's had it for literally a few months, and he's already like, so what other phone can you get on android? does it do exchange support? anyways i think that may have explained my point well enuf.
if your still in doubt heres your answer
GET IT NOW!

You'd piss yourself if you saw the phone I had at 16...lol!!

My phone at your age was this:
http://mobiles.users.netlink.co.uk/mot_mr1.htm
It was good at the time, except for the 4 hour standby IF you didn't make calls which were all chargeable on top of the monthly fee!
Anyway back to 2010.... the Desire is amazing and totally worth getting.
Sure it has a few bugs as posted here and on MoDaCo but these are mostly minor and will probably be resolved in the coming weeks/months.
I have just gone back to my Hero and it seems SO much slower and less responsive..
The same is true for apps which launch and run so much faster thanks to the 1 Ghz chip.
The Desires screen is a dream in comparison, so much more responsive and the size makes nternet browsing much easier.
Indoor shots taken using the camera also show a massive improvement, not upto dedicated camera standards, but much better!
So, would I recommend it..... definitely!

zippyioa said:
My phone at your age was this:
http://mobiles.users.netlink.co.uk/mot_mr1.htm
It was good at the time, except for the 4 hour standby IF you didn't make calls which were all chargeable on top of the monthly fee!
Anyway back to 2010.... the Desire is amazing and totally worth getting.
Sure it has a few bugs as posted here and on MoDaCo but these are mostly minor and will probably be resolved in the coming weeks/months.
I have just gone back to my Hero and it seems SO much slower and less responsive..
The same is true for apps which launch and run so much faster thanks to the 1 Ghz chip.
The Desires screen is a dream in comparison, so much more responsive and the size makes nternet browsing much easier.
Indoor shots taken using the camera also show a massive improvement, not upto dedicated camera standards, but much better!
So, would I recommend it..... definitely!
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ha well i'm a nerd so i've always got to have the latest stuff, people get pissed off with me cause i have nice phones and just spend all my money on tech and stuff, they also get pissed cause i refuse to sell any of my old phones.... but i still get the girls so no complaints from me LOL

zippyioa said:
My phone at your age was this:
http://mobiles.users.netlink.co.uk/mot_mr1.htm
It was good at the time, except for the 4 hour standby IF you didn't make calls which were all chargeable on top of the monthly fee!
Anyway back to 2010.... the Desire is amazing and totally worth getting.
Sure it has a few bugs as posted here and on MoDaCo but these are mostly minor and will probably be resolved in the coming weeks/months.
I have just gone back to my Hero and it seems SO much slower and less responsive..
The same is true for apps which launch and run so much faster thanks to the 1 Ghz chip.
The Desires screen is a dream in comparison, so much more responsive and the size makes nternet browsing much easier.
Indoor shots taken using the camera also show a massive improvement, not upto dedicated camera standards, but much better!
So, would I recommend it..... definitely!
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Damnation.. that was my first phone as well.
second some crappy sagem and then the Ericson 318

charon72 said:
Damnation.. that was my first phone as well.
second some crappy sagem and then the Ericson 318
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It was awful in comparison to what we have now! At the time it was what was available.
The poor battery life and expensive call costs (especially cross network) meant I rarely made calls on it... from memory Oranges reception at the time was almost non existent so to make up for it they gave customers a free cinema pass for the year.
My nearest cinema was 15 miles away so I used to wait for several films to come out then spend a whole day watching them back to back. Happy days!

zippyioa said:
It was awful in comparison to what we have now! At the time it was what was available.
The poor battery life and expensive call costs (especially cross network) meant I rarely made calls on it... from memory Oranges reception at the time was almost non existent so to make up for it they gave customers a free cinema pass for the year.
My nearest cinema was 15 miles away so I used to wait for several films to come out then spend a whole day watching them back to back. Happy days!
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wow i'm sooo sooo glad technology has changed but tbh orange signal is still crap i dont get 3g in my house

My first phone was a Motorola jobby which needed 4 AA rechargeable batteries in it!! Can't find a picture of it but the it's in it's box at my parents so might ask them to take a look for me
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EddyOS said:
My first phone was a Motorola jobby which needed 4 AA rechargeable batteries in it!! Can't find a picture of it but the it's in it's box at my parents so might ask them to take a look for me
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wow imagine how many batterys we would go thru now adays with our phones it would cost loads

Feeling old now!
EddyOS said:
You'd piss yourself if you saw the phone I had at 16...lol!!
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When I was 16 I went to a phonebox if I was out, or used one of those BT calling card thingies! Didn't have a mobile til I was over 20!
But I do remember my Mum having one of those 'Trendy & High-Tech' Motorola phones on Cellnet!

well I know this is off topic but Is it acceptable for me to say I'm one of the only 15 year olds to have the worlds most powerful phone?

Show off!

Show off!
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well people do say I can get a bit big headed at times but I mean its not my fault I'm soo sexy lol anyways yes back on topic get the desire its amazing!

Verizon rumor...

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/verizons-htc-trophy-coming-late-march-report
Do I wait? or switch to AT&T now and get the Focus.....ugh

The Focus is definitely the better handset, so I would jump ship if it's that urgent. There are rumors that the Omnia7 will become available on CDMA though, in which case that's even better (in terms of looks/feel) than the Focus.

emigrating said:
The Focus is definitely the better handset, so I would jump ship if it's that urgent. There are rumors that the Omnia7 will become available on CDMA though, in which case that's even better (in terms of looks/feel) than the Focus.
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well as far as looks go, I actually like the focus better, the Omnia 7 is a little too square for me. But the Focus has a card slot (I know it isn't technically supported) whereas the Omnia doesn't. Though it would be the first NON-Omnia I have owned in years if I bought the Focus.

Where did you find the rumor of Omnia 7 to CDMA ?

Yeah it's up to you really. The nice thing about wp7 is it comes down to hardware. Which hardware will suit you more? Do you like physical keyboards? I have the LG Quantum, and to be honest, I never use the physical keyboard. It's nice to have if you have to be especially precise, but it's just never needed. Especially with the hardcase/skin I got for it, the sliding mechanism now is -very- stiff (that's what she said), but that's a bonus to me.
HOWEVER, the Focus is a Samsung phone. So expect internal memory to disappear, screen to become damaged, and have problems with the updates. I'd go with the Trophy personally, ony cause of that.

Trophy (for the) Wife
While I have been using Samsung Focus for my Enterprise Phone, I actually do plan on Getting my Wife the Trophy when it comes out on Verizon.
I've played with both and the Samsung is absolutely the better Phone from a hardware standpoint (AMOLED is the only way to go for small displays now and the expandable storage was a big deal for me as well) but from a Useability standpoint both are running the same excellent UI and O/S.
However Verizon has better reception for both voice and data in our region and we have several phones on a family plan so it will be easier to just upgrade her to the Trophy when it comes out.
At that point hopefully I can keep her from swiping my Focus to play xBox Live Games...

MKohlman said:
While I have been using Samsung Focus for my Enterprise Phone, I actually do plan on Getting my Wife the Trophy when it comes out on Verizon.
I've played with both and the Samsung is absolutely the better Phone from a hardware standpoint (AMOLED is the only way to go for small displays now and the expandable storage was a big deal for me as well) but from a Useability standpoint both are running the same excellent UI and O/S.
However Verizon has better reception for both voice and data in our region and we have several phones on a family plan so it will be easier to just upgrade her to the Trophy when it comes out.
At that point hopefully I can keep her from swiping my Focus to play xBox Live Games...
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yeah where I am (NJ) Verizon and AT&T are pretty comparable as far as signal and such go. And I really like the SAMOLED and expandable storage option....but part of me wants to see if the Omnia 7 is coming to Verizon, but at the same time AT&T is going to be slightly cheaper for me...ugh decisions, decisions.

Omega Ra said:
well as far as looks go, I actually like the focus better, the Omnia 7 is a little too square for me. But the Focus has a card slot (I know it isn't technically supported) whereas the Omnia doesn't. Though it would be the first NON-Omnia I have owned in years if I bought the Focus.
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In that case, go with the Focus - it won't disappoint in the slightest. Personally I prefer the O7 in terms of look (and definitely feel) but as you say the Focus has the SD slot which I would have loved.
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Where did you find the rumor of Omnia 7 to CDMA ?
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Not sure, it's something that's been floating around for a while I believe.

i hope verizon gets more than one wp7 at launch i have the touch pro 2 now and my screen is cracked, battery life is terrible and its on its last legs, i really dont like all touch screen phones i prefer the slide out physical qwerty but i just might be desperate to to get the this phone because i desperately need a upgrade

Samsung Focus for sure. Very good battery life. Absolutely amazing pictures. NAND memory. Excellent screen. Super this.
Best WP7 device by leaps and bounds IMO. Have one off contract, but wish Sprint had something similar. Will likely get the Arrive, despite hating the form factor. I would jump ship to AT&T for the Focus, but my phone bill would nearly double.

deadwrong03 said:
i hope verizon gets more than one wp7 at launch i have the touch pro 2 now and my screen is cracked, battery life is terrible and its on its last legs, i really dont like all touch screen phones i prefer the slide out physical qwerty but i just might be desperate to to get the this phone because i desperately need a upgrade
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I feel your pain, My display is cracked too...I wish it cracked at the bottom of the display, it might be more usable for email (hard to read text sometimes toward the top).
I'm in the same boat with WP7, I'm not sure if I can hold out longer myself...but, I would love a physical keyboard....

decided to stick it out and wait on the Trophy...and hope they annouce the omnia 7 as well. Between the cancellation fee and the price of the phone and my work discount not being as big on AT&T, it just makes more sense to wait. Though the Focus is really the phone I want, I can't justify $350 to switch carriers. I just wish my contract ended sooner than December...

That's how I felt about switching. My contract is also up in December. However I decided that if I could get an inbetween phone for less than 200 I would. I ended up getting a Surround on Craigslist for $180. I'll just keep this till my contract runs out then upgrade to a phone I really want.
That being said however, I love my Surround. Great phone and 10x better than my old Tilt 2.

Trophy 16GB!!
I see the Trophy has 16GB!! intern memory, not as specified on HTC site!!!

bippolinno said:
I see the Trophy has 16GB!! intern memory, not as specified on HTC site!!!
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Yep, it was shown with the 16gb on the Microsoft Employee promo, so it has been assumed that the Verizon version will have the 16gb MicroSD in it.
If it does have the HTC SLCD display like some people are claiming, it might be a worthy phone, as engadget did a compare with the AMOLED display and said they were very close to each other. SLCD was a little poorer in the battery life area but, not that bad.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/spot-the-difference-htc-desires-slcd-versus-amoled/
Only downfall I can see besides no QWERTY keyboard is a 1300mah battery, other WP7 models are giving a 1500+. It could be a major impact on batter life depending on your uses. Just hope it has the FM radio, like claimed but, Verizon is known for cutting it out of phones.
I've been out of a contract for a while, I might get this but, I really wanted a WP7 device with a keyboard, I guess it all depends on what is given at the press release.
Here's the MS image showing the 16gb on it... (Source: Engadget/Winrumors)
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Yep, it was shown with the 16gb on the Microsoft Employee promo, so it has been assumed that the Verizon version will have the 16gb MicroSD in it.
If it does have the HTC SLCD display like some people are claiming, it might be a worthy phone, as engadget did a compare with the AMOLED display and said they were very close to each other. SLCD was a little poorer in the battery life area but, not that bad.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/13/spot-the-difference-htc-desires-slcd-versus-amoled/
Only downfall I can see besides no QWERTY keyboard is a 1300mah battery, other WP7 models are giving a 1500+. It could be a major impact on batter life depending on your uses. Just hope it has the FM radio, like claimed but, Verizon is known for cutting it out of phones.
I've been out of a contract for a while, I might get this but, I really wanted a WP7 device with a keyboard, I guess it all depends on what is given at the press release.
Here's the MS image showing the 16gb on it... (Source: Engadget/Winrumors)
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Well this is just my $.02 but I think you'll find that you won't miss the physical QWERTY. One of the things I happiest with on my focus is how well the WP7 softkeybord works.

tanders04 said:
Well this is just my $.02 but I think you'll find that you won't miss the physical QWERTY. One of the things I happiest with on my focus is how well the WP7 softkeybord works.
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I've heard the WP7 on screen keyboard is great but, I have always had issues with onscreen keyboards due to my larger thumbs, so it could be a problem but, I can't try till I get one.

So let's talk about the bad

Okay so don't nobody want to talk about what they don't like... Well here's mines comparing it to the epic 4g
The phone (4G touch) is the coldest out, just want to put that out there.
The graphics or camera don't meet the expectations as a part2 of this phone.
that's the only thing I can say thats wrong with this phone...
I'm not trolling, just giving my opinion.
Just got the phone today so don't cuss me out because I said this.
But still again I'm still playing with it.
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Graphics or camera?!?
I think you nedx to play nova 2 hd and take a few 1080p videos and then check back in....
The camera is the best I seen on a phone (in person)
And graphics are amazing... Better than any dual core phone imo
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trow-uhllllll
Aside from the fact that when I read OP I was all like "what is this I don't even", if we are to assume that he intends to take exception with the "graphics or camera" I must profess, with as stiff an upper lip as I can muster, that I would prefer he were to GTFO with his trolling.
If by some peculiar stretch of the internet's good will OP has truly spoken with veracity of his mind and thoughts, well, I think it goes without saying that the sooner his opinion be disregarded the better.
I've never seen a better cellphone camera, hands down, ever. I'm pretty blown away. So far as "graphics" are concerned--as vacuous as such a statement is--we'll assume he means anything to do with 3D graphic rendering and/or reproduction. Also the finest performance I've ever seen on a cell phone. Sure, it isn't qHD, but if that is a surprise to you it would suit you well to stop purchasing bleeding edge smartphones without knowing what the hell you are talking about.

The bad:
Supplies charging cable too short.
I guess no phone can be perfect

My dislike is the screen wake lagg, and which will just doubtedly be fixed in a rom or kernel and it won't make me any food??? I'm waiting though..
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I just wish this phone was able to make me a sammich and get me a beer.

The camera is pretty sweet, though the Epic was good too. (My N8 smashes it, but then again that's that phone's main selling point.)
I haven't used it long enough to check out the radios, but it seems like Samsung pulled it together.
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I agree - the bad being the shortest charging cable I've ever seen! Barely reaches the top of the nightstand...
Fortunately easily solved on Amazon - actual Samsung branded car charger cord for $4, home charger with longer cord for $6, $1.50 for a longer Samsung USB cable...
I was also disappointed that it didn't come with a micro SD card. My buddy's DroidX I think has 16gb onboard, and came with a 16gb card too. To me, 16gb onboard is more than I need, but for a "superphone" dolled up with all these extras and details, figured they wouldn't go cheap on the power cord and no SD card.
I'm only partly disappointed that the screen resolution isn't 960x540 like the Bionic and a few others. It's not really any disadvantage, and I'd easily pick the rich colors and ridiculously black blacks over a higher res anyday - so much easier on the eyes. But mostly on principal - I'm still shaking my head that the iPhone 4 has been out so long, and it should have been 3 weeks (I'm exaggerating) before other phones came out with screens of either similar pixel density or resolution. It's not rocket science, and Apple does all their manufacturing through contract manufacturers for this stuff... a true OEM like Samsung should be able to nail that one pretty easily, right?
Also saw some GPS numbers on another thread that showed only ho-hum GPS reception... the comparison phone walked all over it. But (to stay positive), if there was a radio/antenna to skimp out on, I'm glad it was this one.

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The bad:
Supplies charging cable too short.
I guess no phone can be perfect
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haha seriously. I unraveled it and looked in the box for the rest of it.

jirafabo said:
haha seriously. I unraveled it and looked in the box for the rest of it.
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Lmfao me too!!!

I much prefer this phone over my 3D for many reasons. I can't think of an existing phone I'd rather have but I will say
The EVO 3D got better data speeds for me - that is based on regular test in the same location.
I prefer sense but that is a matter of opinion.
This thing seems to take longer to charge than any phone I've had using the AD charger.

daneurysm said:
trow-uhllllll
Aside from the fact that when I read OP I was all like "what is this I don't even", if we are to assume that he intends to take exception with the "graphics or camera" I must profess, with as stiff an upper lip as I can muster, that I would prefer he were to GTFO with his trolling.
If by some peculiar stretch of the internet's good will OP has truly spoken with veracity of his mind and thoughts, well, I think it goes without saying that the sooner his opinion be disregarded the better.
I've never seen a better cellphone camera, hands down, ever. I'm pretty blown away. So far as "graphics" are concerned--as vacuous as such a statement is--we'll assume he means anything to do with 3D graphic rendering and/or reproduction. Also the finest performance I've ever seen on a cell phone. Sure, it isn't qHD, but if that is a surprise to you it would suit you well to stop purchasing bleeding edge smartphones without knowing what the hell you are talking about.
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I ****ing HOWLED as I read this. So funny because it's so true.
I picture the guy typing this as Brad Neely's BabyCakes.
Lmao.
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bobbywat said:
Okay so don't nobody want to talk about what they don't like... Well here's mines comparing it to the epic 4g
The phone (4G touch) is the coldest out, just want to put that out there.
The graphics or camera don't meet the expectations as a part2 of this phone.
that's the only thing I can say ttys wrong with this phone...
I'm not trolling, just giving my opinion.
Just got the phone today so don't cuss me out becauseI said this.
But still again I'm still playing with it.
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I don't like that USB Host is disabled and wifi only does'nt do infrastructure.

The bad would be battery life for me anyway and closing of games while playing

WOW... You guy's are hard, I said I wasn't Trolling but whatever.
I took a picture with my old Epic and then my wife took the same pic with her Nexes 4G and I compared all pic's and the Epic 4G and Nexes 4g had better pic quality than my new Epic 4G touch.
But that's not a deal breaker I still love the phone.
And the charger cord is to short ( LOL ) But I have a lot of them around the house.
Well enough about this... TIME TO ROOT THIS BABY!

Bigjim1488 said:
The bad:
Supplies charging cable too short.
I guess no phone can be perfect
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I don't like that USB Host is disabled and wifi only does'nt do infrastructure.
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Agreed!
My only other complaint is the phone doesn't store my screen timeout settings through reboot nor my contact shortcuts using buddy now. After every boot I have to change this again. It is a bit frustrating. Anyone else having that issue? Other than these mentioned things the phone is amazing and I will have a hard time getting anything else for quite some time I think.

bobbywat said:
WOW... You guy's are hard, I said I wasn't Trolling but whatever.
I took a picture with my old Epic and then my wife took the same pic with her Nexes 4G and I compared all pic's and the Epic 4G and Nexes 4g had better pic quality than my new Epic 4G touch.
But that's not a deal breaker I still love the phone.
And the charger cord is to short ( LOL ) But I have a lot of them around the house.
Well enough about this... TIME TO ROOT THIS BABY!
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People are going to assume trolling when they read your original post and go... English MFer! Do you speak it?!?!?!
No one seriously wants to decipher the gibberish you spewed. I, personally, am still confused about your point.

boe said:
I much prefer this phone over my 3D for many reasons. I can't think of an existing phone I'd rather have but I will say
The EVO 3D got better data speeds for me - that is based on regular test in the same location.
I prefer sense but that is a matter of opinion.
This thing seems to take longer to charge than any phone I've had using the AD charger.
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I agree I love this phone but the data speeds are a little low. I got with full bars of 4g on my evo 3d 2200 kbs and on my epic touch I am lucky to get 1100 kbs that is the main thing I see wrong or that I dont like about this phone. But that can be easily fixed with a radio update like they did on the 3d.
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I was a little disappointed that the E4GT will not walk my dog for me. I hear the new quad core phones coming out in Q1 2012 will and I can't wait for that. Other than that, this phone blows away anything else I have had....and I have had them all......

Samsung HM5000 bluetooth handset is great

I bought the HM5000 Samsung bluetooth handset last week and I have to say its great. For those moments when you want to make or answer a call without holding a phone to your ear. You can even surf or doodle while your on the phone.
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http://www.gadgetreview.com/2011/03...set-acts-like-a-second-phone-but-smaller.html
You can even pair it to two devices at one and it vibrates....so you can keep both of your talerts out of site on the bus ;-)
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Thanks, it is good to know it !
I do not phone often but I do not like to put that big G.N. to my ear

Well damn.
This would make using the Tab 7.7 as a phone actually feasible.
I so want numerous devices in a personal network. If text messages could be 'pushed' to a different device over bluetooth, I would use the 7.7 as my primary 'hub' with all these devices connected to one another. The smaller device would be pocketable and only be to reply to messages when pulling out the tablet wouldn't prove to me useful. I've already got an MBW-150 for caller ID, media controls and notifications.
Dear god the possibilities.

DarkShot666 said:
Well damn.
This would make using the Tab 7.7 as a phone actually feasible.
I so want numerous devices in a personal network. If text messages could be 'pushed' to a different device over bluetooth, I would use the 7.7 as my primary 'hub' with all these devices connected to one another. The smaller device would be pocketable and only be to reply to messages when pulling out the tablet wouldn't prove to me useful. I've already got an MBW-150 for caller ID, media controls and notifications.
Dear god the possibilities.
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Aaand, this is precisely the reason I'm selling my Note! Just got the 7.7, and my HM5000 is already on its way over

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Aaand, this is precisely the reason I'm selling my Note! Just got the 7.7, and my HM5000 is already on its way over
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You, must tell me how everything goes and if you feel it worth it.
When I first read that the 7.7 would be able to be used as a phone, I would have bought it right then and there. But of course, it wasn't available.
Have you used it as a phone for calling/texting yet?

And don't forget that g note have s pen....

And as man-bags become more socially acceptable, it makes more sense to have the big quad core device in your bag and your designer bluetooth handset in your hand. In fact if you could get a bluetooth handset with a small screen to show sms etc it would be really interesting. ....
Or Galaxy note wifi/bluetooth in your bag controlling your 10 inch tab in your bag...
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DarkShot666 said:
You, must tell me how everything goes and if you feel it worth it.
When I first read that the 7.7 would be able to be used as a phone, I would have bought it right then and there. But of course, it wasn't available.
Have you used it as a phone for calling/texting yet?
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I've had the 7.7 now for about 5 days, and ever since day 1, I have been totally blown away by how amazing this device is!
It has been my complete replacement for both phone and tablet. The Note was cool and all (I'm selling mine), but honestly, the s-pen was kinda wasted on me (not really the doodling type you see).
Also, as amazing as the Note's screen is for a really big phone, it's just not as functional as I would have hoped in order for it to be a capable substitute for a true tablet, in spite of its resolution. If you're on the go a lot, the ~7 - 8" screen size is about the perfect sweet spot for a truly light-weight heavy hitter in the tablet market IMO.
Now don't get me wrong! I love the Note too! The Note is a fantastic piece of hardware, and once it gets ICS, I bet it is going to be an absolute BEAST of a device. I'm sure that for a lot of people, the Note is/will be the absolute perfect fit for them, and a really good phone/tablet compromise.
For me, the 7.7 with a Bluetooth hands-free and my old SGS2 as a backup for when I'm occasionally "going light", is a better fit overall. For other's that might not be their ideal match. It just depends on the individual.
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Now, here's an idea for next version of the Note:
So, the current generation is the N7000 yeah? So let's call the next iteration the "Note 8," yeah? See what I did there? Clever eh?
So imagine the device being pretty much identical to the GTab 7.7, but rather than include the s-pen in its current form, instead modify the HM-5000 to make it a little sleeker, have the s-pen on one end of it for writing, a 3.5mm headphone jack on the other end of it for earphones, add playback controls for music and media, and a small monochrome OLED display on the front of it for info like caller ID, date/time, and current playing track etc.
Holy crap that would be amazing!!

I can see the desire of wanting to carry around a 7.7 but I need to put my device in my pocket. My Note fits just perfectly in my front pocket. Been carrying it around like that since I got it. I know I could not do that with a 7.7. That's just me though. The Note is the perfect cross sized device for me. Will I still own a tablet. Most likely but I've found when my Note and my Ipad2 are sitting right next to each other I'll go for the Note even when I going to web surf. I just like the size.
Also having the earpiece is critical for me. I'll lose anything bluetooth I carry around. And I don't want to have to worry about where I'm placing two devices I can barely keep track of one.

juiceppc said:
I can see the desire of wanting to carry around a 7.7 but I need to put my device in my pocket. My Note fits just perfectly in my front pocket. Been carrying it around like that since I got it. I know I could not do that with a 7.7. That's just me though. The Note is the perfect cross sized device for me. Will I still own a tablet. Most likely but I've found when my Note and my Ipad2 are sitting right next to each other I'll go for the Note even when I going to web surf. I just like the size.
Also having the earpiece is critical for me. I'll lose anything bluetooth I carry around. And I don't want to have to worry about where I'm placing two devices I can barely keep track of one.
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That's what I love so much about Android. Unlike iStuff, it's not all one-size-fits-all. Our diversity allows for each of us to better find our perfect fit on an individual basis!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I've had the 7.7 now for about 5 days, and ever since day 1, I have been totally blown away by how amazing this device is!
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Where did you get the 7.7?

VTEChump said:
Where did you get the 7.7?
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eBay seller out of Singapore. Got it for ~$730 unlocked 3G. Worth EVERY penny too. Selling my Note now.

Thanks, it is so good !

sorry to revive and old thread, but about that hm5000, does it work with another device beside samsung?

I tried it and I don't like it.
Too big and it looks like a tube of mascara...

does it work samsung galaxy note?

rodjordan said:
I bought the HM5000 Samsung bluetooth handset last week and I have to say its great. For those moments when you want to make or answer a call without holding a phone to your ear. You can even surf or doodle while your on the phone.View attachment 859973
http://www.gadgetreview.com/2011/03...set-acts-like-a-second-phone-but-smaller.html
You can even pair it to two devices at one and it vibrates....so you can keep both of your talerts out of site on the bus ;-)
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I definitely want to pick one of these up. Makes me think about getting the Galaxy tab 7.7 instead of the note now....
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rodjordan said:
I bought the HM5000 Samsung bluetooth handset last week and I have to say its great. For those moments when you want to make or answer a call without holding a phone to your ear. You can even surf or doodle while your on the phone.View attachment 859973
http://www.gadgetreview.com/2011/03...set-acts-like-a-second-phone-but-smaller.html
You can even pair it to two devices at one and it vibrates....so you can keep both of your talerts out of site on the bus ;-)
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Where is a good place to buy one of these? I'm in the US

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
So, the current generation is the N7000 yeah? So let's call the next iteration the "Note 8," yeah? See what I did there? Clever eh?
So imagine the device being pretty much identical to the GTab 7.7, but rather than include the s-pen in its current form, instead modify the HM-5000 to make it a little sleeker, have the s-pen on one end of it for writing, a 3.5mm headphone jack on the other end of it for earphones, add playback controls for music and media, and a small monochrome OLED display on the front of it for info like caller ID, date/time, and current playing track etc.
Holy crap that would be amazing!!
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Damn, you called that Note 8 a year in advance... good job! It's a shame they didn't do as you said and basically combine the HM500 and S-Pen.

rchrdcrg said:
Damn, you called that Note 8 a year in advance... good job! It's a shame they didn't do as you said and basically combine the HM500 and S-Pen.
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They did, it's called the HM5100

http://nomorerack.com/daily_deals/view/257515-samsung_hm5000_pocket_talker_bluetooth_3_0_headset
Samsung HM5000 Pocket Talker Bluetooth 3.0 Headset
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f y i

Just bought some Nokia Stock

I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?

Well your arguments don't sound like the most rational ones out there, but I too think it's a good investment if you can wait atleast for a year or two before selling .

I'm also thinking of buying some And hopefully it will go quite well

I too bought 400 shares as I think in a year or two I'll make a decent return on my investment. I don't see Nokia going away as Microsoft has put a lot of cash in them in hopes of bringing WP7 up to #3. I bought as a long term investment for sure, so time will tell. Good luck to you also, we'll see if we made a good move!
By the way, best advise I can give you is, don't watch the stock daily, let it ride as someone said above, it will take quite some time before it starts to move in a positive direction. Just let it be and wait until WP8 comes out and gets established.you'll drive yourself nuts watching it right now!
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[email protected] said:
I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
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Based purely on your post I would have to say "yes."
This is facebook 2.0. I LOVE my Lumia 900. But I also realize Betamax was better than VHS. VHS won. It is not just a matter of having a superior product that I like. You also have to market it.
I can't believe sheeple are still paying $200 for an outdated iphone with no LTE and a 3.5 inch screen. If you want a free contract iphone you will have to make due with the iphone 3gs. That's insane. The iphone 4s is already dated. And people are picking up a phone 3 generations older for the same price as I got a Lumia 900. That is the market place Nokia is playing in. So no I do not believe their success no matter how much I LOVE their product is assured.

[email protected] said:
I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
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Buying with your heart is always a bad investment. Buy for the gain, not the good. Doesn't matter if its rail cars or crystal.

ohgood said:
Buying with your heart is always a bad investment. Buy for the gain, not the good. Doesn't matter if its rail cars or crystal.
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^This
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Well, obviously historical decline is not a reason not to buy, more like the other way around.

The stock hasn't bottomed out yet. Nokia also mentioned they're likely to face more quarters of operating at a lost, and the smartphone business is only part of their business.
Nokia has also been downgraded to junk status, as no one believes that they will be able to repay their loans.
I've been thinking about buying, but I'm betting it'll go lower. I'm holding out until right before the major launches.
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[email protected] said:
I just purchased yesterday some shares of Nokia (at 2.79, it seemed a good time to buy). As a Windows Phone believer, I really think that Nokia will turn around, and they will be really successful.
Am I an irrational "fanboi"?
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You already have your answer before you posted this. See these key words in you post: "believer", "I really think", "they will be". These types of words should never be associated with any financial transactions.

jarnmo said:
sitizenx said:
^This
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Well, obviously historical decline is not a reason not to buy, more like the other way around.
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This is what people were saying last year when Nokia was trading over $7 a share...
That advice led to a >50% loss. "Cheap shares" can get cheaper. I need more information than that before a stock becomes a buy.

With Nokia value approaching net value of its patent portfolio and cash on hand, this seems like the time to buy if you believe in NOK's upside.
The downside risks are:
They burn all cash while in recovery mode and go bankrupt
WP7 doesn't increase sales to return them to future relevance
My take is that the cash issue is a non-issue. Even with their credit rating as junk, intuition says that NOK will have free access to cheap cash loans from someone with lots of cash and a vested interest in their success: Microsoft
The WP7 upshot is the big question mark, but the grass roots indicators are telling me that WP7 will be that catalyst, given time. Since time = money for NOK and MSFT has the money, this seems non-issue, as well.
The "doomsday" scenario is if NOK's market cap goes so cheap as to make a hostile acquisition enticing. Then you could see IP desperate Google or another maker stepping in to try to eat them up. In that case, I don't think MSFT would let that happen, either. Net-net of this scenario is that NOK's value gets run up in a bidding war, which I don't think MSFT would let be lost.
Either way, as a long term hold, NOK seems cheap.

sitizenx said:
This is what people were saying last year when Nokia was trading over $7 a share...
That advice led to a >50% loss. "Cheap shares" can get cheaper. I need more information than that before a stock becomes a buy.
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+1
there are safer things to put money in than CREEKS THAT MIGHT FLOW BACKWARDS TOMORROW, if xyz happens.

ohgood said:
+1
there are safer things to put money in than CREEKS THAT MIGHT FLOW BACKWARDS TOMORROW, if xyz happens.
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No one is saying NOK is safe - far from it. But if you are looking at a long term bet with big upside due to ambiguity, there are worse bets.
I bought $2K of NOK a few weeks ago knowing full well it could be zero. I considered it like buying a lotto ticket, fully understand it could be worth nothing or that NOK could be at $10+ in a year.

What site do you guys use to buy/sell shares? I'd like to test the water

kenikh said:
I considered it like buying a lotto ticket...
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I don't think that contradicts anything we just said.
pLUSpISTOL said:
What site do you guys use to buy/sell shares? I'd like to test the water
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You're flying the flag of the Isle of Man and asking us for some names of brokers?!

pLUSpISTOL said:
What site do you guys use to buy/sell shares? I'd like to test the water
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Fidelity and Merrill Lynch.

sitizenx said:
You're flying the flag of the Isle of Man and asking us for some names of brokers?!
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Now don't I just look stupid haha
It's a financial centre and I have never worked up the courage to figure this out!
kenikh said:
Fidelity and Merrill Lynch.
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Thank you. Any tips you guys have as I get started would be great.

pLUSpISTOL said:
sitizenx said:
You're flying the flag of the Isle of Man and asking us for some names of brokers?!
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Now don't I just look stupid haha
It's a financial centre and I have never worked up the courage to figure this out!
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I couldn't resist.
Over here in the US if all you want to do is trade stocks E*trade or Ameritrade are okay. I heard Fidelity is good as well. Choose a reputable firm and then see what pricing is like for your trading strategy. Your choice of broker will definitely vary depending on how often you trade.

vetvito said:
I've been thinking about buying, but I'm betting it'll go lower.
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If you believe that why don't you sell short?
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