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I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not the TP2 still has the keyboard problem from the touch pro?
What's the keyboard problem from the Touch Pro?
Yeah
What is the problem?
Please let us know
I don't know what problem touch pro keyboard has
I searched around and I think this problem is keyboard lag. However, I don't think it exists on the TP2, as the review here (to read it, you'll probably need google translator to translate the page) only mentions how quickly the device runs and how amazing the keyboard is, there's nothing about keyboard lag.
Dave
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I searched around and I think this problem is keyboard lag. However, I don't think it exists on the TP2, as the review here (to read it, you'll probably need google translator to translate the page) only mentions how quickly the device runs and how amazing the keyboard is, there's nothing about keyboard lag.
Dave
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Actually, I'm curious to see if the lag is still there. It is still completely awful on the Kaiser.
For everyone who has it, how is it thus far?
Compared to the Kaiser this thing is a dream! I press a button and the character appears on the screen at the same time! It's wonderful!
No more waiting for the last 2 words I typed to appear slowly. It's much much better
kjb86 said:
Actually, I'm curious to see if the lag is still there. It is still completely awful on the Kaiser.
For everyone who has it, how is it thus far?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELdBSd-R8eU&feature=channel_page
Here u can check it out (compared to the TP1 and the X1) Seems pretty fast to me
There was a keyboard lag in the Touch Pro when I bought it, but since installing latest official ROM it's gone
No lag on stock Rom for Rhodium for me.
As stated above, things will only get better once we get HSPL and start cooking our own Roms
Cheers,
Beasty
beast0898 said:
No lag on stock Rom for Rhodium for me.
As stated above, things will only get better once we get HSPL and start cooking our own Roms
Cheers,
Beasty
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orbitalen said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELdBSd-R8eU&feature=channel_page
Here u can check it out (compared to the TP1 and the X1) Seems pretty fast to me
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dazultra2000 said:
Compared to the Kaiser this thing is a dream! I press a button and the character appears on the screen at the same time! It's wonderful!
No more waiting for the last 2 words I typed to appear slowly. It's much much better
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thanks everyone for the information. It seems as though I am still stuck with this kaiser and my horrible text messaging speeds for quite some time (darn Canada/North America not having the same frequencies)... *sigh* I guess the kaiser has been somewhat good to me
There is no keyboard lag whatsoever that I'm experiencing with my Touch Pro 2. I typed a sermon summary from a church's sunday service superbly with the keyboard. Loving it so much!
nope, it's lag-less
woops, forgot about this. hahaha.
I was talking about the countless number of keyboards breaking on the touch pro.
Tons of threads about it over at ppcgeeks.
It's something to do with the ribon or something inside and it breaks or pops out,
and then you're keyboard decides to stop working.
My friends has gone out like 2 times on him, and had to get 2 other replacements,
and this is within the past 4 months. lol.
But I already got the TP1.
^ That's what you were talking about...
So far haven't seen any reference to this issue on the TP2.
galaxys said:
^ That's what you were talking about...
So far haven't seen any reference to this issue on the TP2.
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lol, I couldnt get a TP2,
only way I could get it was if I bought it at full retail
or got it from verizon when they get finished hacking it up.
And I couldn't afford the first one
and would never buy phones through verizon.
So I ended up going with the TP1 to hold me off for a while.
Ugh, I hate the timeout error.
I refresh and it reposts. woo!
Sorry bout double post!
yeh, I'm still waiting on the tmobile TP2. Hopefully, they won't hack it up or I'll have to get something else...
kjb86 said:
Actually, I'm curious to see if the lag is still there. It is still completely awful on the Kaiser.
For everyone who has it, how is it thus far?
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no lag at all
galaxys said:
yeh, I'm still waiting on the tmobile TP2. Hopefully, they won't hack it up or I'll have to get something else...
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ya, I was worried I'd wait for verizon or alltel too long,
and they'd just hack it up anyways,
so I just said screw it and got the TP and decided to wait for a
more mature WebOS, (I would like to develop for it, but hate the pre)
or wait for a wm7 phone.
mallman said:
no lag at all
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cool.
I just recently bought a Palm Pre and returned it, hated it! So I bought the touch pro knowing it cam out almost a year ago (impulse buy). Now I am just curious, I know the touch pro 2 is coming to sprint, but its rumored that the hero will be out for sprint later this year, possibly December. Which one should i wait for?
i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.
lhwparis said:
i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.
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+ one is android and other WM, usually a big difference depending on what you like.
That will depend on what is for you need the device
TP2: Buissness oriented device with the second best physical keyboard (1st is from Universal)
Hero: Multimedia oriented device with an OS tha promises a lot in the future, by now it needs to grow up and madurate
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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Haha, yeah I know, keyboard is a big deal to me. It's just WM seems to disappoint me a lot. Although I have high hopes for 6.5, I'm thinking sprint is waiting for 6.5 to release to touch pro 2, it would make it all that better!
But still, functionality versus a keyboard, I don't know! haah
I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
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the shape is virtually the same as the G1, and I've never heard anyone complain about any discomfort when they put the G1 in their pocket. and there may not be a hardware KB, but as far as onscreen KB's go, it looks like the Hero's will be one of best so far. and I like how the screen is capacitive and thus supports multi touch.
personally, I'm getting the TP2 when it comes out on AT&T. I'm also planning on picking up an unlocked Hero (unless it finds its way to the states, specifically AT&T). just want something else to play around with
Please buy both. Both has different strength, features & abilities. Both are totally different. I hope i will get one if god willing
For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!
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For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!
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Yeah but the hero has a capacitive screen right? or am I wrong about that? Im actually not sure but I would think that it does because all the other android ones by HTC ara capacitive
Edit: I checked and im pretty sure its capacitive but I just browsed through search results
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530600
The same question has been haunting me lately too. I've been waiting forever for the TP2 to come to AT&T and now I see this. If they end up having release dates close together I'm thinking I might go with the hero. The main thing that will bother me is the lack of keyboard since I'm coming from a Kaiser (Tilt).
SuperAdvan said:
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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White is not definite. Colors and providers are yet to be determined according to an HTC rep on a youtube video that I saw earlier (If I can track it down again I'll include it with an edit....)
SuperAdvan said:
I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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Agreed, but there's one big difference. You can get an upgrade discount on phones once every 1.5 years, otherwise you're paying out your A$$. Graphics cards are always the same (usually relatively lower) price.
SuperAdvan said:
I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?
josiah7 said:
Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?
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This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
SuperAdvan said:
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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LOL! Yeah, I don't like the shape of it too..
I would go for TP2 as it's not going to disappoint you!
Hard descision
touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((
Mi|enko said:
This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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The resistive screen is one of the selling points for me, especially one as finger-friendly as TP2s. Best of both worlds. I get easy navigation without having to constantly sheath and unsheath the stylus, but I can use a compact and conveniently tucked away stylus when needed. I very much doubt I'll ever need it for the basic interface, but with some apps I'll want it. My Palm TX has been my primary Chinese-English dictionary for some time (before it, my Palm T|T and m500 served the same purpose), and the same software is available for WinMo. I'd just as soon use a stylus for character recognition. For that matter, I'd just as soon use a stylus for handwritten memos. I imagine capacitative screen users get by on both fronts just fine, but for me, I'm glad there's a good resistive screen still available.
Mi|enko said:
This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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So far with my TP2, I have not used the stylus at all and I am a pretty heavy business user, thats emails, facebook, youtube, general browsing and posting on forums, stock, sms.
Whats more I have yet to use the actual qwerty keyboard aswell, I find the touch one good enough everytime unless I'm typing a huge email or document.
My advice is go and actually look at the Diamond 2 and TP2 in the flesh, it is totally different to looking at it on the internet, it really is a quality product.
bobdude5 said:
touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((
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sorry to burst your bubble, sir, but the TP2 doesn't support multi touch. that luxury is reserved for devices that have a capacitive display. and while the TP2 feels like it's capacitive, it isn't. the Hero, on the other hand, IS capacitive and therefore the screen supports multi touch
I've heard that they won't make the HTC Touch Pro2 windows 7 compatible because of the resistitive touchscreen. But they would make it for HTC HD2 (because it has capacitive screen).
Is this true?
And if so,. what about 6.5.1?
WinMo7 will probably not work on the TP2. As for '6.5.1', well, considering most of the ROMs on this site are running '6.5.3', I think it's safe to say that your question is already answered
NNesin said:
I've heard that they won't make the HTC Touch Pro2 windows 7 compatible because of the resistitive touchscreen. But they would make it for HTC HD2 (because it has capacitive screen).
Is this true?
And if so,. what about 6.5.1?
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NNesin said:
I've heard that they won't make the HTC Touch Pro2 windows 7 compatible because of the resistitive touchscreen. But they would make it for HTC HD2 (because it has capacitive screen).
Is this true?
And if so,. what about 6.5.1?
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windows mobile 7 will not support resistive screens, but i am sure there is a go-around way that will be leaked and implemented, Lol
what i dont understand is why HTC is making considerable amount of new phones that run WM6.5 and have resistive screens (not capacitive so they can be upgraded to WM 7.0 officially)
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Thank you,
I don't know nothing about these ROM's for windows mobile phones (actually, with the entire windows mobile OS).
Is there a page where I can read the basics of how these things work? Like what a ROM exactly is, how to apply it onto your phone, will it remove ur guarantee. I'm kinda noob Gonna buy this HTC Touch pro2 soon so (preferring it over HD2 [is this weird? lol]), i assume that flashing is worth it.
Thanks in advance
Preferring a TP2 over an HD2 is very weird indeed.. get yourself checked out ASAP.
i prefer tp2 over hd2.
i love the physical keyboard. whammy.
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Preferring a TP2 over an HD2 is very weird indeed.. get yourself checked out ASAP.
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Well I would perfer the TP2 over an HD2 ANY DAY my friend. and im Checked as well.
From desgin to hardware its all pretty the same - except maybe for the CPU+Camera.. .. but Consodering the lovley keyboard on tp2 - makes it all worth it. And a Winner of course.
Pitty that WM 7 wont work on the tp2, but it doesent nesserserly mean that its impossible.. like mentioned before it WILL probebly be cooked\made by our developers on xda for the tp2 :, or simply wait until htc releases a Touch pro 3 with 1 Ghz of processor.
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Preferring a TP2 over an HD2 is very weird indeed.. get yourself checked out ASAP.
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I stand with the rest of them, a physical keyboard AND tilting screen rule.
I could also care less about capacitive touch, as resistive is much more precise, thoug lacking in multi-touch :/
No ...
Even if the chiefs will be able to make WM 7.0 run on the TP2 .. i find it hard that it would be usable, ... as lots of the minimum requirments of the WM7.0 do not exist in TP2
ARM v6+, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (TP2 has Open GL ES 1.0), and Multi-touch is required (not optional)!
source: http://www.intomobile.com/2009/05/12/microsoft-pink-specs-windows-mobile-7-requirements-leak.html
so even if we be able to some how override those requirements, the device will be exceptionally sluggish
NNesin said:
Thank you,
I don't know nothing about these ROM's for windows mobile phones (actually, with the entire windows mobile OS).
Is there a page where I can read the basics of how these things work? Like what a ROM exactly is, how to apply it onto your phone, will it remove ur guarantee. I'm kinda noob Gonna buy this HTC Touch pro2 soon so (preferring it over HD2 [is this weird? lol]), i assume that flashing is worth it.
Thanks in advance
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Have a deep read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
l3it3r said:
Preferring a TP2 over an HD2 is very weird indeed.. get yourself checked out ASAP.
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I´m weird too as I prefer it for sure
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i prefer tp2 over hd2.
i love the physical keyboard. whammy.
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Agree
Among other great features!
Rhodium!!!!!!!
What the difference in screens?
New guy here.
Can someone explain the difference between the Resistive and Capacitative screens and why it makes a difference? My only point of reference is that I've used an Axim x51v since that model first came out. I'm looking at the TP2 to replace my Axim and my cell phone in the coming weeks. However, the stats on the HD2 looks more like what I've been waiting for and a closer match to the abilities of my Axim.
Anyway, just curious what the differences were?
TP2 vs. HD2: I also prefer the TP2. If only it had a Snapdragon inside...
JohnMcD348 said:
New guy here.
Can someone explain the difference between the Resistive and Capacitative screens and why it makes a difference? My only point of reference is that I've used an Axim x51v since that model first came out. I'm looking at the TP2 to replace my Axim and my cell phone in the coming weeks. However, the stats on the HD2 looks more like what I've been waiting for and a closer match to the abilities of my Axim.
Anyway, just curious what the differences were?
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Resistive screens have sensors that respond to the pressure you apply on the screen, thus being able to use anything (fingers, pen, stylus) to use the screen. There's no multitouch.
Capacitive screens, I believe, have conductive sensors that respond to the electric current that comes from your skin? Hence the necessity of using your fingers, rather than being able to use other materials. Multitouch is supported.
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yeah, i'll chime in with my support for TP2 over the HD2. I was excited to hear that the HD2 was coming to the US, but after having the TP2 for a week or so, making heavy use of email, IM, texting and Word Mobile (wrote a 800 word article on my daily commute over 3 days), I realize how useful the physical keyboard is.
still, I have a Blackberry Storm for backup, or when I'm traveling and don't wanna be weighed down by the TP2. But the big screen and customizability of the phone is probably going to be enough to keep me from switching for at least 1.5 years. By the time I buy my next phone, I hope it'll have a 4.3 inch screen like the HD2, a physical keyboard, a MicroSDXC slot and come in at under 13mm wide.
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TP2 vs. HD2: I also prefer the TP2. If only it had a Snapdragon inside...
Resistive screens have sensors that respond to the pressure you apply on the screen, thus being able to use anything (fingers, pen, stylus) to use the screen. There's no multitouch.
Capacitive screens, I believe, have conductive sensors that respond to the electric current that comes from your skin? Hence the necessity of using your fingers, rather than being able to use other materials. Multitouch is supported.
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OK, thanks for that. I guess I prefer the Resistive screens as I still use a Stylus pen for a majority of my work with handhelds. I have very large hands and find using a touch screen and the small keyboards a pain. I've been doing it for so many years that I'm actually pretty good and writing on the screen versus the onscreen keyboard.
So I guess eventually, I'll be out of luck when it comes to technology. If WinMo 7 won't support the resistive type screens I'll just have to stick with what I've got by then. Heck, I've been using my Axim x51v since it first came out and am only now seriously looking into getting something converged
I haven't used the physical keyboard on my TP2 more than a few times, and I really didn't NEED to then either. In the past, with tiny screens, yes, i'd agree. But when you have SIP options like fingerkeyboard or SWYPE (!!), the keyboard isn't really needed IMO. And saying the HD2 is the same as the TP2 minus a few parts is laughable at best. The HD2 has 802.11n, it has a 4.3" capacitve dual touch screen, 1ghz processor, etc etc etc...
In fact, I'm fairly certain that the TP2 has wet dreams about being replaced by the HD2.
I'm not saying that I don't like having a keyboard... because until recently I refused to buy anything that didn't have it (see history in sig). But, like the stylus (which I never use either), the keyboard is becoming less and less important the better and better the screens and software become.
I totally understand what some people are saying about how amazing the new technologies are. But I think there are a lot of people like myself out there who focus on the very essential things:
- It has to effortlessly make phone calls.
- It has to effortlessly allow me to get through a properly typed email or text.
- It has to be functional through more than a touch screen because psychologically the tactile experience of a button provides you with a subconscious comfort level if you're used to it.
I LOVE tech. I'm a TOTAL tech guy and need to know everything that's out there and follow it's r&d, but i can't have a phone that only has touch. And I don't think it will ever be a perfect enough technology to replace the physical button experience. I think what we're seeing now is a trend. It won't die, but it won't ever completely dominate. Touch screen typing tries to solve a problem that doesn't exist and for that reason, as a business model, most business people will tell you that it won't ever find a large enough market. The population is getting older, and that market segment prefers something they can use with ease. I'm sure some older people like the touch experience, but not enough of them will in the future unless some revolutionary technology appears that makes touch typing as flawless as a keyboard where the only error is human error.
Just my opinion. I tried to say "I think" as much as possible.
well said. I think that you should check out the swype keyboard though. it works Very well and is extremely accurate.
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Well I would perfer the TP2 over an HD2 ANY DAY my friend. and im Checked as well.
From desgin to hardware its all pretty the same - except maybe for the CPU+Camera.. .. but Consodering the lovley keyboard on tp2 - makes it all worth it. And a Winner of course.
Pitty that WM 7 wont work on the tp2, but it doesent nesserserly mean that its impossible.. like mentioned before it WILL probebly be cooked\made by our developers on xda for the tp2 :, or simply wait until htc releases a Touch pro 3 with 1 Ghz of processor.
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I agree! Im upgrading from my att fuze today just to get the bigger screen and bigger hardware keyboard since i dont have woman fingers for this tiny fuze keyboard!
Now if HD2 had a tilt screen and hardware keyboard, all other phones would be out of service! Since it doesnt and wont, it leaves a large playing field for other devices. anyways, by the time wm7 is even usuable, im sure there will be a tp3 by then for it!
I'm only speaking from my personal experience here. I RARELY use the keyboard on my TP2. I thought I would use it a LOT more than I have, but the on screen keyboards, especially Swype, are big enough to get 99% of the text input in that I do on a day to day basis. I'm 90% sure my next device will be sans keyboard. Will be the first one I've ever owned, so I'll be sure to voice my opinion then.
Hi all,
I am also thinking about buying a Desire - actually I nearly couldn't wait any more until I found the following:
http://androidandme.com/2010/03/news/is-multitouch-broken-on-the-nexus-one/
The touchscreen of the N1 seems to have a technical limitation in the way that it can only register 2 simultaneous touches at a time. But it cannot really track the touch points correctly, it merely reports 2 X and 2 Y coordinates. (Which could make up 4 Points actually of which only 2 would be the correct ones obviously)
If I understand the comments correctly the N1 has a Synaptics ClearPad 2000 touchscreen in it with the above limitations.
There is newer touchscreen called Synaptics ClearPad 3000 which actually supports 'real' multi-touch (up to 10 fingers)
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad
As the N1 and Desire are practically the same thing just with different wrapping and software I got a bit worried. Can one of you guys with a Desire please check if the same issues occur for the Desire. Or maybe we are lucky and HTC used the newer screen the Desire (*hoping*)
This actually upsets me a lot as I really wanted a Desire
cheers,
Tommi
Me too.
I also found this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T97P_wfYKms
I seems it can recornize 3 touches but not crossed. (the specification of clearpad2000 sayd maximun 2 touches??!!)
EDIT: the top 2 figers share an axe!
here is the bug on Android ML..
http://groups.google.com/group/andr...ead/thread/d0aa3eea8fd9a2b8/f4b039d29f955d76#
It's and hw problem that could have a partial sw fix.
I don't really see it as a big problem. You'd be hard pressed to use more than 3 fingers on the small screen anyway.
i dont get why the switching of axes is a problem? the only time you'll use multitouch on your desire would be to pinch zoom photos etc. but it doesnt matter if your fingers are in the top left corner and the bottem right and it thinks the other way around. it wil totaly not effect the geusture cuz the movement is stil the same.
(srry for my bad english )
sure? look at this simple *broken* game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OscGUON6mCs
besuikerd said:
i dont get why the switching of axes is a problem? the only time you'll use multitouch on your desire would be to pinch zoom photos etc. but it doesnt matter if your fingers are in the top left corner and the bottem right and it thinks the other way around. it wil totaly not effect the geusture cuz the movement is stil the same.
(srry for my bad english )
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This topic has been discussed to death.
I own an HTC Desire, unlocked, HTC own retail version.
And I have never ever experienced any issue with multitouch nor when using my phone.
For fiddling around, flick flock, swipe swope, tap tap, pinch zoom, shake, gaming, whatnot.
Seriously, if this is a big issue, you will hear a lot of complaints and it will be all over the news.
In fact most if not all are happy with our phone
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sure? look at this simple *broken* game.
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sorry but at least I dont buy a 400 euro phone to play pong on it.
im just sayin.
LOL!!!!! You made my day
besuikerd said:
sorry but at least I dont buy a 400 euro phone to play pong on it.
im just sayin.
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Are u stupid or what? it was just to test the input.. if a simple game has broken multitouch imagine a <cool multitouch 3d game here>
Anyway I don't care much of this bug, because I'm not an addicted mobile gamer..
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LOL!!!!! You made my day
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You should be the stupid one because you don't have a sense of humor .. LOL
I was laughing because the joke of other user ...
But now, I am laughing at you instead.
Because you are now worried that this (non) issue will broke other cool multitouch 3d game ... LOL again
assente said:
Are u stupid or what? it was just to test the input.. if a simple game has broken multitouch imagine a <cool multitouch 3d game here>
Anyway I don't care much of this bug, because I'm not an addicted mobile gamer..
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LOL!!!!! You made my day
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ive had no issues with using multitouch, for me everything works perfect !
I did not want to discuss any fixes or reasons for the malfunctions, thats all clear.
I simply wanted to know if it is the same with the Desire as it is with the N1.
If it is a big or small issue is for everyone self to decide. Maybe I only want to play pong with my phone (I don't say I want that), in this case it would be a huge issue. If the only thing you need is a pinch zoom (which is a useless guesture btw) it is no issue at all.
Could you be so kind and test that pong game on the Desire and let us know if it works or not?
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This topic has been discussed to death.
I own an HTC Desire, unlocked, HTC own retail version.
And I have never ever experienced any issue with multitouch nor when using my phone.
For fiddling around, flick flock, swipe swope, tap tap, pinch zoom, shake, gaming, whatnot.
Seriously, if this is a big issue, you will hear a lot of complaints and it will be all over the news.
In fact most if not all are happy with our phone
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Because you have asked me, then my answer is NO. I won't test that.
You will have 2 possible answers anyway ...
1. It still have that problem
2. It does not have that problem
I think your concern is no. 1, correct? I guess so ...
Then it is up to you ... But as I said, this is not an issue for daily use, except you really want to play that Pong game
PS: From what I read, I almost certain that HTC Desire will have the same issue like N1 for this (same display technology anyway).
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I did not want to discuss any fixes or reasons for the malfunctions, thats all clear.
I simply wanted to know if it is the same with the Desire as it is with the N1.
If it is a big or small issue is for everyone self to decide. Maybe I only want to play pong with my phone (I don't say I want that), in this case it would be a huge issue. If the only thing you need is a pinch zoom (which is a useless guesture btw) it is no issue at all.
Could you be so kind and test that pong game on the Desire and let us know if it works or not?
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just tested Pong from Marketplace and unfortunatly i have the problem on my desire :|
at10ti0n said:
just tested Pong from Marketplace and unfortunatly i have the problem on my desire :|
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Thanks a lot for that. Guess I probably will have to wait for the Desire II or whatever the successor will be... too bad...
thomasschaz said:
Thanks a lot for that. Guess I probably will have to wait for the Desire II or whatever the successor will be... too bad...
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or get the motorola droid/milestone
thomasschaz said:
Thanks a lot for that. Guess I probably will have to wait for the Desire II or whatever the successor will be... too bad...
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It won't play pong so you won't get it?
The algorithms for these touch screens aren't designed for complex multi touch, they are designed to recognise gestures with 2 fingers.
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or get the motorola droid/milestone
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Hm... well to be honest I have not made very good experiences with motorola in the past. Event though the droid/milestone phones look quite nice I'd really like to stay with HTC. I do not really need a new phone at the moment, I only wanted to have the Desire . But only with real multitouch (which is for me, to track more than 2 fingers accurately)
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It won't play pong so you won't get it?
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Hehe, no that would be quite a stupid reason, wouldn't it.
I do however want a phone with true multitouch and not just a 'basic guesture supporting' 2 finger recognition. (oh and I probably don't need to add that iPhone is not an option)
I think.. it's only a software problem..
maybe there is a bug in android 2.1?
Or, someone in motorola already found out about this bug and fixed it for droid.
Anyhow, imho, this can be quite easy to be fixed.
Hi
My old Samsung galaxy tab s2 9.7 had terrible slanted/wavy/crooked scrolling when scrolling text heavy Web pages in any browser or twitter etc... But it only happened in portrait mode.... Personally I prefer to use portrait mode, so I was stuffed lol
Does this tablet have the same issue?
It's really easy to replicate, just browse a text heavy Web page whilst holding the S4 in portrait position, are the lines of text crooked? ,looks as though the left side of the screen is scrolling faster than the right, giving a crooked look to the lines of text when scrolling.... Like I say, the s2 9.7 definitely had this problem.... Bit scared to buy the S4 if its also present to.
Like I say only happens in portrait, never in landscape.
I'd be really grateful to anyone who has the s4 to check for this problem,I love the super amoled screens on these tabs, but because of this problem I had to bin my s2 9.7 and go with an ipad.
I skipped the s3 9.7 because it POSSIBLY had the same issue.
Would love to buy the new S4 but if the issue is still there I'm in trouble.
Thanks for any help, would be much appreciated.
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Hi
My old Samsung galaxy tab s2 9.7 had terrible slanted/wavy/crooked scrolling when scrolling text heavy Web pages in any browser or twitter etc... But it only happened in portrait mode.... Personally I prefer to use portrait mode, so I was stuffed lol
Does this tablet have the same issue?
It's really easy to replicate, just browse a text heavy Web page whilst holding the S4 in portrait position, are the lines of text crooked? ,looks as though the left side of the screen is scrolling faster than the right, giving a crooked look to the lines of text when scrolling.... Like I say, the s2 9.7 definitely had this problem.... Bit scared to buy the S4 if its also present to.
Like I say only happens in portrait, never in landscape.
I'd be really grateful to anyone who has the s4 to check for this problem,I love the super amoled screens on these tabs, but because of this problem I had to bin my s2 9.7 and go with an ipad.
I skipped the s3 9.7 because it POSSIBLY had the same issue.
Would love to buy the new S4 but if the issue is still there I'm in trouble.
Thanks for any help, would be much appreciated.
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The issue is still there. actually an issue you will find on most If not all android tablets unfortunately
Nice one mate, much appreciated..... You've saved me a lot of money and inconvenience.
Cheers.
I just tried while holding the Tab S4 in portrait mode and definitely noticed it.
I have never seen that before, however this is the first android tablet I've owned in 6 years. That is really jarring and I can see why it would be annoying
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I just tried while holding the Tab S4 in portrait mode and definitely noticed it.
I have never seen that before, however this is the first android tablet I've owned in 6 years. That is really jarring and I can see why it would be annoying
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Unfortunately it's been present on all android tablets for years. I believe it's a software thing. Most people won't notice and it's fairly easy to ignore
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Unfortunately it's been present on all android tablets for years. I believe it's a software thing. Most people won't notice and it's fairly easy to ignore
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To be fair Reuben.... We SHOULDN'T have to ignore it,it should be FIXED.... BTW I had the old galaxy tab A 9.7...the predecessor to the Tab A 10.1 2016....and also had the tab A 10.1 2016... Neither of which had this problem... So I don't think it can be put down to just an android issue.
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Unfortunately it's been present on all android tablets for years. I believe it's a software thing. Most people won't notice and it's fairly easy to ignore
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I just tried while holding the Tab S4 in portrait mode and definitely noticed it.
I have never seen that before, however this is the first android tablet I've owned in 6 years. That is really jarring and I can see why it would be annoying
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Cheers Haggman for the reply, it absolutely was doing my skull in on the s2 9.7....it was just SO NOTICEABLE.... I've reluctantly gone with an ipad 10.5 now... prefer the freedom of android but can't be doing with the crooked scrolling text... So I'll have to put up with IOS.... To be fair though.... the thing is an absolute BEAST...
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To be fair Reuben.... We SHOULDN'T have to ignore it,it should be FIXED.... BTW I had the old galaxy tab A 9.7...the predecessor to the Tab A 10.1 2016....and also had the tab A 10.1 2016... Neither of which had this problem... So I don't think it can be put down to just an android issue.
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Didn't say he has to just saying most won't notice. It was present on the S2, S3 and Google pixel c
I'm surprised, this is my first Tablet, after a Amazon 7" where I had this issue too, to see this on a highend tablet too.
Why? I'm not happy to see this straight after 5 minutes usage.
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Totally understandable mate,honestly,it was giving me a migraine it was that noticeable on my old s2 9.7,that’s why I sold it and bought a iPad Pro 10.5...absolutely zero problem now when scrolling in portrait...do miss the super amoled screen though.
If the s4 didn’t have the scrolling problem I’d have gone back to Android.
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Totally understandable mate,honestly,it was giving me a migraine it was that noticeable on my old s2 9.7,that’s why I sold it and bought a iPad Pro 10.5...absolutely zero problem now when scrolling in portrait...do miss the super amoled screen though.
If the s4 didn’t have the scrolling problem I’d have gone back to Android.
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The iPad pro is a great device mind you. I used it for 10 months but apple customer service was beyond a joke for me and I sold it for the tab S4. The wavey scrolling does really annoy me at the moment. But fortunately I use it mainly in landscape. I'm still not a fan of IOS but ipads do work well. Glad to be back on an android mind
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=77563293
Check this post of me. Very annoying scrolling. I will return my device!
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Reuben_skelz92 said:
The iPad pro is a great device mind you. I used it for 10 months but apple customer service was beyond a joke for me and I sold it for the tab S4. The wavey scrolling does really annoy me at the moment. But fortunately I use it mainly in landscape. I'm still not a fan of IOS but ipads do work well. Glad to be back on an android mind
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Yeah Reuben,if you’re mainly someone who uses it in landscape there’s zero problem I agree,I’m the other way round though lol...much prefer portrait...
Agree with you though,I do miss Android....and do miss the beauty of an Amoled screen.
I wish I had seen this thread before I ordered the S4. Luckily I was able to return it, but I don't understand why nobody mentioned this issue in reviews. It's pretty darn noticeable.
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I wish I had seen this thread before I ordered the S4. Luckily I was able to return it, but I don't understand why nobody mentioned this issue in reviews. It's pretty darn noticeable.
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Dude, I feel the same.
It's so weird, as it is really annoying
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What do you have to do to see this effect? I cannot see anything like the horrific distortion implied by descriptions of this problem. Or any distortion. Maybe a little when scrolling so fast I can barely register much less read text, but nothing in normal scrolling.
Hold the Tab in Portrait Mode and open a website with a lot of text. Might work with a word document too, but never tested.
Then move the text up and down.
Seriously it's there, be happy if you can't see it
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LoL most st*pid reply so far in this thread. You should read it before making such bold statement.
The issue is there, it's just that not every can see it. Like LED flickering. Some people see it while others can't.
Anyway I'm happy with my Huawei which does not have the issue at all.
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It most definitely is there. I personally can't even understand how it's possible for someone not to notice the issue, but apparently some people notice it more than others.
Also, why are you spouting nonsense about us being Apple fanboys? Seriously, I was devastated by this issue just because I DON'T want an iPad. Sending the S4 back was the absolute last thing I wanted to do. It had other flaws, which I was more than willing to live with, but I am EXTREMELY picky when it comes to a display.
Anyway, if you want to discuss this like proper adults instead of flinging cheap insults at us, go and have a look at this webpage: https://www.testufo.com/scanskew
It tries to illustrate the issue at the hand of moving lines across your screen. (you can change the direction of the line movement in that tool. If the lines move from top to bottom, you should see them skew on the Tab S4 as they move up and down the screen. If you let them move sideways, they shouldn't be skewed)
I'll try my best to explain the issue: The theory here is that the screen is skewing content because of the refresh direction of the display. What we're seeing on the Tab S4 is that the display is mounted in the device in landscape orientation which means that, when holding the device in portrait mode, it's refreshing the screen sideways rather than top-to-bottom. This makes that the content we're looking at is refreshed at one side of the screen while it isn't yet at the other side, resulting in the content looking skewed while the display is refreshing.
This issue is not limited to the Tab S4. In fact, every display in existence shows this behaviour, albeit some to a lesser extent than others. If I use the above tool to test for scan skew, I can see that even my €1000 PC monitor exhibits scan skew, but in the landscape orientation because it refreshes from top to bottom, as opposed to the Tab S4.
I'm not sure why the issue was so apparent on the Tab S4's screen, but I'm going to assume it has to do with the OLED screen, as the problem is probably also present on other tablets like the Huawei M5 and iPad (see, an Apple fanboy wouldn't say that, would they?) but is not as noticeable.
-Shrug- I can't see it even with the scanskew tool. Guess my eyes aren't fast enough to pick up the refresh. Works for me, I'm loving my S4