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WM6 - 2.00.04 PRO PV Version OUT

Final release of 2.00.04 PDAVIET version,
you can find about here http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=3183&page=12
Link for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XG5EP2D
or http://rapidshare.com/files/12826782/ROM_v2.00.04_PDAVIET_UNI_PRO.rar
pass: www.pdaviet.net
Hey guys, we have a rom-by-day.. I don't have the time to reinstall programs that I have to reflash

realogic said:
Final release of 2.00.04 PDAVIET version,
you can find about here http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=3183&page=12
Link for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XG5EP2D
pass: www.pdaviet.net
Hey guys, we have a rom-by-day.. I don't have the time to reinstall programs that I have to reflash
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Is this newer than 2.00.04 PDAVIET_Test ROM ?

Yes, is the "final" one, called PRO (as read on their forum)
Don't know about differences

realogic said:
Yes, is the "final" one, called PRO (as read on their forum)
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do you have the pass to unizip the ROM ?
EDIT: go it, thanx!

realogic said:
Final release of 2.00.04 PDAVIET version,
you can find about here http://www.pdaviet.net/showthread.php?t=3183&page=12
Link for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9XG5EP2D
pass: www.pdaviet.net
Hey guys, we have a rom-by-day.. I don't have the time to reinstall programs that I have to reflash
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OK - that COOL but can some one explain me - HOW to read and understand that language ot PDAVIET - Please folks - when you release some information in diferent language try to translate to english so every one can read it.

Please read
Ok apologies for cross posting.... but can you obsessive flashers please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1110678&postcount=50
and keep in mind the bit towards the end about bad images.
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Disclaimer... ok just thought I'd better add. I'm not trying to say anyone has put out a bad image. or that anyone is trying to. before anyone thinks I'm claiming that.

Work,on this version,the videocall?
And in the ExtRom that applications are found?

ivorh said:
Disclaimer... ok just thought I'd better add. I'm not trying to say anyone has put out a bad image. or that anyone is trying to. before anyone thinks I'm claiming that.
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Well so far you are the only one who wrote that and was "kind" enough to repost it again. I believe each person here has the brain to make their own judgement. If they like PDAViet ROM and flash "a lot" so be it. There is no point of trying to convince the others that PDAViet ROM is not good up to your standard. Your "high" standard might not be the same as the others.

It would be best if the developers of these PDAVIET images posted here, then people could ask them questions, and they could respond to bugs etc.
They can carry on posting images on their forum, but I think it's important to realise these roms are posted on a non-english forum, and many people here are flashing it blindly, not knowing if there are things to watch out for, patches or registry imports that should be run, and so on.
I just think it's dangerous the amound of hype surrounding these images when nobody is posting any proper change logs, or able to answer what is changing from one rom to the next.
It's unlikely anything bad will happen, but at the moment, someone saying "wow this is so fast" seems to be enough in people's mind to warrant a reflash.
It's all getting a bit silly imo.

AlanJC said:
It would be best if the developers of these PDAVIET images posted here, then people could ask them questions, and they could respond to bugs etc.
They can carry on posting images on their forum, but I think it's important to realise these roms are posted on a non-english forum, and many people here are flashing it blindly, not knowing if there are things to watch out for, patches or registry imports that should be run, and so on.
I just think it's dangerous the amound of hype surrounding these images when nobody is posting any proper change logs, or able to answer what is changing from one rom to the next.
It's unlikely anything bad will happen, but at the moment, someone saying "wow this is so fast" seems to be enough in people's mind to warrant a reflash.
It's all getting a bit silly imo.
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I'm absolutely AGREE with you !!!

Hi imisim,
and that's exactly why I wrote the disclaimer, I obviously didn't write it clearly enough, sorry! I'm saying I don't have a problem with any of these people posting the ROMS (although it would be nice if they produced changelogs saying what they were improving), I don't believe there's any problem with any of the ones they have posted!
The thing I'm trying to warn of was that when people are posting random rapidshare and other file upload service links "HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE???" For example I haven't seen any of these recent ROM images posted with an MD5 sum that can be checked for validity.
Sorry if I didn't make my point clear!
I believe each person here has the brain to make their own judgement.
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and I fear you may be too optimistic there!
Cheers and best wishes,
Ivor.

AlanJC said:
It would be best if the developers of these PDAVIET images posted here, then people could ask them questions, and they could respond to bugs etc.
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I agree with you however you need to keep in mind that the PDAViet ROM are leased in their site which is Vietnamese.
The change log is there but in Vietnamese.
The problem is not PDA Viet because their ROM is published for their members and most of them are Vietnamese. The link to their ROM as being posted by the xda-developers members and unfortunately most don't read Vietnamese

BatteryStatus issue....
.....after having issues with reseting my device, I realised that BatteryStatus was causing the issue, forcing me to hard reset my device twice....now the device resets nicely.....but can anyone recommend a good small battery indicator, or even a taskbar one?
Thanks

I don't speak vietnamese too, I posted that link just because that ROM is the most stable one I've flashed, and trusth me, I've flashed all!
BTW, I agree with who says that way is not the most secure.

outfocus: I use iLauncher3, but is not free

I have to agree. I'm interested in trying one of the WM6 ROMs on my wizard/xda mini s, but with the frantic whirlwind of posts, follow-ups, and the almost random naming conventions, the whole BBS seems to have become a frenzy and it's now left me at a complete loss as to which, if any, WM6 ROMs I should have a go with.
Add to that a huge amount of "people should just read the threads" posts, combined with maybe 20 topics, each of 20+ pages of crap to read through, and I'm now probably too nervous about bricking my device to try. For example, do I flash the orwell1984 one, and if so, do I need to roll in the WWE stuff, or will it just work? Should I go for the pdaviet ROMs, or not - and if so which is the best?
Is it any wonder people are left scratching their heads?

ivorh said:
although it would be nice if they produced changelogs saying what they were improving.
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The change log is on their site and here is a rough translation
- ROM v2.00.04 PV was based on ROM v2.00.03 PV
- Aggressive Reg editing.
- Fix RAM leaked and device hung.
- More available RAM (above 24,25Mb) and guarantee faster
- Some additional improvement and add-on.

just one question: is this ROM same as the ROM in this post(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290865)?
If not, what the difference between them?
Thx.

Pro Differences / Preliminary Review
Sorry Alan but this is the best ROM out there, BUT you need to understand how to use this - let me begin: (in no particular order)
To use ozvga you must load midgets version of ozvga for crossbow.
The following applications WILL HANG YOUR UNIVERSAL:
SPB backup (BUT YOU CAN USE SUNNYSOFT V4)
SPB Pocket Plus (sorry!)
Now you don't need anymore the CB dialer skin, microsoft voice command 1.6 or new menu for wm5 because THEY ARE ALL IN THE ROM! (But don't restore your old WM 5 new menu settings file or you will hang the device!)
This little Vietnamese beauty also comes with a new version of XP shutdown, an amazing smart dialer, remote desktop and streaming media player!
The dfferences in the PRO version are:
The addition of the remote desktop & streaming media player
Added to settings is a customer feedback form and in connections is another icon to the communications manager.
Voice commander is mapped to the record button
Other things YOU NEED TO KNOW:
Soft resetting WM 6 is sometimes a two stage affair. This DOES NOT appear to be a bug but rather an (early) characteristic. If you need to reset 3 times or more the application you just loaded is not compatable.
Activesync 4.5 beta has embedded smarts for WM 6! When you synchronise for the first time it will ask you suddenly if you want to maintain wireless conectivity while docked to active sync.
There is also a newer bluetooth stack & system tray icon. If you use TomTom for example you no longer need to map the incoming port. The option has been removed anyway.
To summarize - this version of WM6 is blisteringly snappy, full of great features BUT NEW... IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK THE SAME AS WM5 AND NOT USE ALL THE SAME APPLICATIONS. But the overall result is fantastic in my opinion.
Regards,
Simon Jacobs

imisim said:
The change log is on their site and here is a rough translation
- ROM v2.00.04 PV was based on ROM v2.00.03 PV
- Aggressive Reg editing.
- Fix RAM leaked and device hung.
- More available RAM (above 24,25Mb) and guarantee faster
- Some additional improvement and add-on.
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RAM Leaked problem is most important than others, I think.

{NEW HERMES ROM} Mr. Bloaty (My First And Last Rom)

Erm... I Have just sold my hermes, as i got a new phone for work, this will be my only contribution to the hermes world, 71 users have downloaded it so far, anyway i thank you all for all your lovely words
respect to xda-developers.com, and all the chefs!
CHECK OUT MY NEW ROM...
ROM was created using the Tmobile Test Rom version of Pandora.
The following applications have been included : see post 6
No other changes made to the ROM
Doesn't include Office (Will need to install using cab)
Will need to add own network settings
OS only upgrade
Seems to run fast and no issues noticed to date
TOTAL STORAGE: 42.31mb - Free 33.34mb
PROGRAM: 50.77mb - Free 25.55mb
ITS A BIG LARDY BOY
Download MISTER BLOATY HERE ---- its a biggun!!!!

its been running for a few days now, and is still pretty nippy, even for its size

awesome
would you be so kind to share the specs of what's in it !

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Sorry, didn't see "Don't click part"

WASSIT??!?!?!
I feel like a kid at Christmas!!! Come on, Daddy - what's inside the BIG present....

LIST OF APPS INSTALLED!!!!
Key Lock
Registry Wizard
Call 2 Contact
Frequency Tuner
HTC Custom
No Data
o2+
Pocket Screen Thing
Pocket Streets
Pocket TOPO!
Realplayer
Shutdown
SMSDRfix
Sprite Backup
TCPMP
SyncroTime
XM Radio
Zip
Flashlite
Glossy Black Bars
GS Finder
Magic SS
MJ Config
Superbrite
TotalCMD
Wififofum
WM5newmenu
WM5torage
All OEM Games PLUS Monopoly
Schaps Advanced Configuration

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Can we see some screenshots also
Some screenshot will help more

erm, i not sure how to, im a noob...sort of...

U can do it with Pocket Screen Capture....

biggary said:
erm, i not sure how to, im a noob...sort of...
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So you include Magic SS in your rom, which is a screen capture utility, yet you cannot post any screenshots up! Hmmm................

biggary said:
LIST OF APPS INSTALLED!!!!
Call 2 Contact
No Data
o2+
Pocket Streets
Pocket TOPO!
SyncroTime
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can you be kind enough to tell me what the above apps are esp Call 2 Contact.

erm....has anyone other than me and my mates downloaded this yet?

You need to give more details. What base rom is is from? (for example)

biggary;1486290 said:
erm....has anyone other than me and my mates downloaded this yet?
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Im really not intending to be a jerk, but you asked for critique, and now appear to be surprised it isn't flying off the shelves, so to the point, you post a ROM you cooked, which has apps inside you appear to know nothing about, magic ss..and since when is "glossy black bars" an app, and then don't even really post much info about it, other than its bloated..that's besides the point that I myself don't think I could even bare to tell someone I was running a rom named "Mr Bloaty".
If you want more downloads, you're going to have to put a little more effort into it...maybe some version info/screenshots, instead of just throwin up a download link to what appears to be a bloated turd that you and your friends though up after a few too many beers..or something one night.
Sorry if I sound rude, just calling it as I see it.

IIRC Glossy black bars is a small utility that appeared in some of the Black Roms.
Also, should you want a very heavily laden ROM, I would suggest that using Pandora's kitchen would be the way forward. (Choose what you want)
You don't give much info on what you have done to the ROM - but as you say you are new to all this, it will not fill people with confidence and tempt them to try it.

crazyC;1486417 said:
IIRC Glossy black bars is a small utility that appeared in some of the Black Roms.
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Ahh my bad, ty for the info on the app, had always just done it manually myself, or rather nowdays I just have a shortcut and HW key mapped to an exported reg value.

basically i used pandoras kitchen, and added virtually all the apps included, there are a few people like me who dont want a lite rom, i like a rom with quite a few apps included, I dont enjoy a few beers with mates, i like looking round for apps and sharing this, and many other ppc sites with every ppc owner i know, so i thought i would do a basic (i know only the basics what i read on here and the wiki) rom, yeah its not up there with the gods (schaps,jasjamming and the rest) but its my contribution to this forum
As for calling it MR BLOATY, its full of bloat.... mr bloaty is only the name of the rar file.
Its based on the Tmobile 3.60 rom (so i been told)
Im sorry that i have not added more info on the rom, or screenshots, all i know it runs pretty nippy, you will have to add your own internet settings, and if you want office, you will have to add the .cab yourself
Again, im a bit of a noob round these parts, i basically had a good read of the forum on how to use pandoras kitchen, studied all parts of the rom, constructed it, and converted it to download.
I dont mind if you download or not, its just my contribution here
its been downloaded 27 times too. so at least my work not being wasted

OK - I don't think the aim of the posters here ( me included) was to put you off sharing your efforts, rather to enable more people to try it.
Just add the following facts to your first post:
ROM created using the Tmobile Test Rom version of Pandora.
The following applications have been included :
.....
.....
.....
No other changes made to the ROM
Doesn't include Office (Will need to install using cab)
Will need to add own network settings
OS only upgrade (I assume this is right?)
Seems to run fast and no issues noticed to date (Again, is this correct)
And that should be all we need to know. Keep up the good work!

ok, thanks for that, will upgrade first post....

Which one to choose?

i'm looking a rom to replace the official wm6 one.
since this i s the first time i'm doing such thing i'd like to recieve some help.
which rom should i choose?
there are many and the list of features is long and hard to compare between each other, any hint on how to choose and what to look for are well accepted.
thank you.

Lyllo,
Hello and welcome. There must be a thousand threads on here askng the same question.
I suggest you do one of several things:
- Search for each thread asking this question and see what responses were given:
- Look through the threads on here for each rom and from the discussion decide which is best for you (recommended option)
- Choose a number of roms at random, flash them, and see what you think.
I would personally sit down and decide what you are looking for in a rom, eg, speed, stability, speed (don't care about stability), stability (don't care about speed), feature rich versus feature lite, etc.
Once you have done this then go to option 2 above and see what fits. Next read mrvax guides THOROUGHLY (see here...http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/) BEFORE you jump in.
Also it is esential that you read the wiki (see here...http://wiki.xda-developers.com/) BEFORE you jump in.
If you want to change roms safely there is no short cut to assimilating knowledge, understanding thoroughly, then implementing.
Good luck and don't forget to backup your data before you start.
WB

can i go on asking some few things here?
1) wondering what's the difference between Black version and other ones.
2) i've noticed that most of the last releases basically give the same pack of cabs, so which are the parameters to distingush between them? they always define them quite stable, so cant find a way to choose
i'd prefer some more stability in order to have a fully and costant working device, but some speed would be nice.
found the schap's one but can't uderstand if it would be worthy to do an upgrade or not.
basically on this forum i've found that is always worthy...
4) what does at&t means? what has it for?
5) what's about the "big storage"?
thank you and hope i've been quite clear pls excuseme for my english ^^
thanks 4 your attention

lyllo said:
can i go on asking some few things here?
1) wondering what's the difference between Black version and other ones.
2) i've noticed that most of the last releases basically give the same pack of cabs, so which are the parameters to distingush between them? they always define them quite stable, so cant find a way to choose
i'd prefer some more stability in order to have a fully and costant working device, but some speed would be nice.
found the schap's one but can't uderstand if it would be worthy to do an upgrade or not.
basically on this forum i've found that is always worthy...
4) what does at&t means? what has it for?
5) what's about the "big storage"?
thank you and hope i've been quite clear pls excuseme for my english ^^
thanks 4 your attention
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Ok dude.....heres ur answers (please note mrvanx has about 3 bottles of merlot in him to cloud his judgement)
1) Black set the standard for ROMs, however the base ROM has evolved a fair bit since the last version of WM6 black (WM6 Black X).......Right now i recommend doing some reading about Pandora Naked 6....and customizing it for your own needs ;-)
2) Speed/Stability are relative to what you have installed....see 1)
3) Schaps ROMs are a VERY good place to start, however if you wish to truely taylor your device you should read into cooking your own ROM.
4) AT&T is a US based betwork......ignore it unless you are in the US
5) Big storage means the ROM has some optimisation added to the IMGFS file system so the storage space on the device is freed up for you to use, in some cases you could see a storage capacity of 80MB or maybe more!!?
...............finally.....
...INSTALL HARDSPL BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!!!!! good luck. ;-)

thank you ver much ^ì

extremely clear for 3 bottles of merlot, Vanx.. I'm very impressed
Lyllo, I'd say, first of all, install HardSPL like Vanx said
Next, I would advise you to try out some ROMs. The Black is very complete, there are some others who are very good. I personally use Schap's 4.22 and I like it alot (eagerly waiting for 4.30, hint hint Schap ) If you follow the proper procedure, flashing usually is a piece of cake and within 15 minutes you're up and running again.
You can only really know which ROM you like by trying them out for a couple of days. I tried Black and I switched to Schap cos I like it better but it's very personal.
Also, I suggest you take a look at your Radio ROM too. This isn't customised but it highly influences the performance of your Hermes, i.e. how long your battery lasts, how quick you get a link to the internet, how well bluetooth performs and so on. Read the threads on the various versions and pick the one that seems best for you and just give it a go for a couple of days.
After a while you will find your ideal combination. And that will be the best for you.

Shamanix 2.2
If you are not in to Internet Sharing, I would recommend you try Shamanix 2.2. No bugs. Its fast and stable.

I would recommend to give one of Edhaas's Roms a try, they are very fast AND stable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010

thanks to everybody guys.
i'll look around, even if i'm thinkig about waiting for android to give it a try.
these ROMs are wm6 the same, keeping all the M$ defects...

lyllo said:
thanks to everybody guys.
i'll look around, even if i'm thinkig about waiting for android to give it a try.
these ROMs are wm6 the same, keeping all the M$ defects...
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Yeah, thats right.
BUT:
At home I'm using Linux on my desktop system, my previous mobile phone has a Symbian OS. In the last 25 years I was using computers with C64 OS, Amiga OS, MSDos, DR DOS. None of all these operating systems was completely bugfree. Android is based on Linux and much more important: its developed by humans. So again it will have failures
The point is to create a Rom which handles all the given defects in a useful way. And I think some of the Rom devs here did a very good job.

the more static and simple an os is the more stable
the more cutting edge user costimizable and featurefull and advanced an os is the more places bugs and unablity to test all senarios play it's part

thak you guys.
let me just explain deeper that i'm talking about defects, not bugs.
it's quite obvious that human can do some mistake that reflects into bugs, i'm not complaining about that
i was just complainig the way wm6 is designed
anyway, i guess i'll have to wait for android or an iphone surrogate
by now i think i'll at least upgrade the rom from the official to a better in performance one.
there's only one matter, i've just found Schaps' 3.54 one in italian, can you tell me where can i find a list of localized rom in order to choose something newer?
i'd like to scratch as less as possible my ppc, so a full rom, with a sotisfactory set of program would be better.
thank you.

My first question would be are you sure you are using a Hermes/Tytn 1?
You said you were new to all this and asked which ROM you should change to from your stock/official WM6 ROM.
Not many Hermes/Tytn 1's are available with WM6 on them as standard. So just double check you have the phone that is being discussed in this particular sub-forum as if you use the wrong image on the wrong device it can cause big, non-correctable (aka permanent) errors.

At the risk of blowing my own horn, If you are new to this and would like a good start, try my ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355439
This will:
1) Updates your Radio ROM to the latest version - which many people find performs better (although there are apparently some issues with AT&T network - but as you're not in the US, that doesn't matter here).
2) Give you a featureset similar to what the phone manufacturer would have - including Office 2007, a voice command/dialer application, and the latest Windows Live.
3) Gives you the option to uninstall Office 2007, voice command software and Windows live if you don't want them.
4) Will work with pretty much any network due to the inclusion of the HTC network wizard which sets up your mobile for almost every network worldwide - just pick where you are.
5) Gives you about 54Mb of free storage BEFORE you uninstall any addon applications.
This will give you a solid base to starting to flash your device etc too - which is great

thank you guys.
i'm on a tytn II, not on I, my mystake, i guess i'm a wizard not hermes isn't it
i'll take a look.
this forum is really great, never found so many considerate and patient guys!
thank you very much to every one.

lyllo said:
thank you guys.
i'm on a tytn II, not on I, my mystake, i guess i'm a wizard not hermes isn't it
i'll take a look.
this forum is really great, never found so many considerate and patient guys!
thank you very much to every one.
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TyTN II is a Kaiser NOT a wizard. Do not flash a Wizard ROM!! ^_^

why don't we have a kitchen like these guys?

http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55
Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA??

Black6spdZ said:
http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55
Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA??
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Totally agree man, We are left with scrounging to collaborate a good kitchen from all the generous chefs around here. (No intended as a knock to chefs)
And then fending for ourselves on if issues arrise. I mean i understand everyones very busy with their own lives but these guys on PPCkitchen got it going on man!!

interesting
Looks very interesting, can't install it at my work pc but will try it first thing tonight when I get home.....Are there certain models this works on??
(I read a little bit around the site so if that question is answered I will locate it)
Dave

I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...
It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support!
So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs

CRCinAU said:
I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...
It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support!
So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs
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I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms,I've been using bepe's but they don't work on the newer roms. or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped?

joshkoss said:
I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms, or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped?
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It really depends... sometimes it's official NBH's, others it's from an NBH from a different device, sometimes it's a rip direct from the phone (ie Part02.raw), other times it's just a SYS directory...
As there's no more official development for the Hermes, it comes down to what you can find

A nice bit of generosity from the sources of the builds would be good. Unfortuatly this has NEVER been the case and its a matter of "who you know" if you want to get hold of builds for a kitchen. The pandora series of kitchens was the daddy when it was alive.
Ive personally given up cooking my own ROMs since getting hold of a ROM build is difficult.
CRCinAU has bodged together a working stable ROM from several other devices and has ported all the bits over, whereas others have access to a build ready-made. He has done ALOT of work to get the ROMs working, alot more than the other chefs i might add since the majority of the work is porting in his case.
Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.
My 2p.

mrvanx said:
Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.
My 2p.
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Yknow there are many cooks out there releasing different builds to which i am very grateful for. and i'm very noobish but it seems like if we could dump builds from others like for example the latest PDAviet build.
If i could dump that properly and then build it into my own would be very cool but i'm stumped at the dumping part. I think if we could have a fixed tool that properly dumps .bin without overlap errors then we could probably jump in on the cooking bandwagon and participate, other than scrounging for pieces from here and there.

As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.

joshkoss said:
As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.
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Yep, its quite easy to build an nb which cannot be dumped....yet another way to stop people using the build inside. Im sure there is a good reason but from what i can see its merely to stop people releasing thier own ROMs, the pandora kitchens showed that most people used it to customise a ROM for thier own needs rather than release a ROM.

I am absolutely no specialist (only experienced a lot of trial and error), but what I can say to people looking for building themselves a kitchen from new builds is that they must perform a little porting from "live" devices that keep receiving updates. Getting your hands on an originally shipped ROM is essential as CRC said before.
For now the "easy" one is Kaiser and it is not very complicated if one was used to bepe's kitchen before. Search for EasyPortOven that comes handy is this case. Porting from newer devices like Diamond, Raphael is more complex due to resolution (at least) and people that have done it can have a word here maybe.
This is also a good reason why I spend most of the time in this forum over at the Kaiser section. It is more alive.

Good tips and discussion! We do have some kitchens available in our forum. Although finding a good kitchen here is sometimes like pulling the teeth! This is the truth back when i had my wizard too!

What can I say mr. mrvanx, I totally agree with you. Pandora has shown us a way to customize the ROM's as per our own needs, and that gave all of us freedom of choice. My last build with Pandora was the fastest one at that time, which made me quite happy.
I would be very grateful to who ever will release an updated kitchen for us. The kitchen from Tyr0 is a very good one and fast. But I wanted to get a newer one, that will contain updated clock.exe, UsbToPc.exe (with possibility to have my TyTN as a Usb Drive), clean E & G icons and other nice features that the latest ported builds have.
I hate when ROM' Chefs believe that by releasing a kitchen, everyone will be making money on them and not give any credit to the initial builders and share money received. Perhaps there is a good reason for that, but WHY PAY you guys (rom chefs) when instead of solving problems of one build you are actually jumping onto another and release a new ROM. You are asking for so called "donations", but you don't give us, simple users, any support for "your" freshly cooked builds. We are still facing the problems with IrDA, Bluetooth and constant freezes or hard resets. But it seems that you don't give a damn thing about it, and continue to ask for donations.
Look at mattk_r, he supported Pandora Kitchen until it has gotten to a perfect point. There were no issues whatsoever, and ROM performed so great that it was a pleasure to spend a few hours just to build my own rom one day.
Too bad the development has stopped right before the new builds started to come out.
I admire CRCinAU as I have tried every single ROM he has build and I've seen how much effort he put in his "creations". Most of them performed very well for me. But, I like ROM's to be as small as they can be; without any additional software/pictures/sounds/never used OEM apps etc. That's why I have stopped on Tyr0 v.1.2 ROM, which at the moment suits me quite well.
CRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say?

Yknow what would be sweeet
If we had a kitchen, that was updateable like in the first post. That could easily port other builds (Maybe having easyportoven built in).

a bunch of SYS folders from recent builds
People that want to play with porting may want to check this thread for SYS builds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402752

I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.
I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.
(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)
I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.
Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?

GuzuGuzu said:
WCRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say?
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As I've said here, I don't think it'd be wise for me to release a kitchen as I've hugely customised it for my needs... This means you need cygwin + perl + bash etc installed on windows for it to work correctly. It would also take me quite some time to convert it back into a simple kitchen for someone else to use.
As far as the average person goes, this would be way beyond them. I don't mind if someone builds one based on the dump of my ROM - MRH ROMs are built exactly this way...

veyka said:
I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.
I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.
(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)
I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.
Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?
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I believe that most of the cheffs here don't do a lite ones because of the users complains saying "after installing this or that oem software, the phone start to slow down on speed" and starr requesting those oem cooked in.

19960 build
OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot
Good luck with it and happy cooking

dan1967 said:
OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot
Good luck with it and happy cooking
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Dude! U rock!! is this big storage?

Whats the big idea

Please pardon my ignorance. I have tried to work out what is going on here for the last couple of months, hoping that it would finally just click. could someone please explain to me what all these ROM's are. So I have an HTC touch diamond with the standard ROM (from the last update, i think 1.9xxxxxx cant remember). With all these 'ROM' developments what more do you get out of the phone. Do you guys still use the TouchFlo 3D? What is HARD-spl? Is it worth changing the ROM? There seems to be a lot of ROM's, how do i know which is the best 1 to use? I feel like i have so many more questions, but please could someone just outline what it is all about.
please excuse my ignorance. I have tried looking it up but i still dont understand so pardon me for taking shortcuts.
Thanks
Tony

All the wisdom of the world in a single link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond

i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is as old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard spl is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.

Blazeitup123 said:
i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard slp is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.

tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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Everything in the Device is erased when you flash a ROM. Stuff in the Internal Storage stays the same.
By da way you can also flash Radios.
Greets.

have a look here as this helped me alot
[TUT]Complete upgrading guide (HardSPL+Radio+ROM) NOT FOR CDMA USERS!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211

tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol

Blazeitup123 said:
pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
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ya i can relate to that. Im also quite a forum junkie and I cant stand it when people direct me to search engines. Even on my local PS3 forum people always help out. Thanks to all for your help. Much appreciated.
So if I want to flash a ROM on my phone I just have to sift through the 1's here that are available. Do you guys recommend any? ie. one's that have few problems.

Typically the rom you get with the phone is a generic one, not too fast, full of feature and there to please everybody.
A cooked rom normally strips things down or tunes the device to a specific need. some roms remove as much as they can to give you more ram. Great for those of us who browse the web.
Others load them with more features so you never want for anything.
Others are generic but more upto date. The problem with official roms is they are updated and then go into testing for months and months then get released.
a custom rom will take updated drivers from other devices (like the HD) and place them into our roms with around a weeks testing or less. so we get them sooner. This does have its drawbacks.
A custom rom can be less stable than an official one. but you can get lucky. Duttys 3.6b is a good mix. Its faster than the stock rom, has more features but more memory as the rubbish is removed.
In the past 2 days I have learnt how to cook my own rom, which is the dream situation. I get rid of everything I dont want like Cyberon, transcriber, ringtones and other stuff. SO I have loads of storage free but also add in the software I use the most.
I now have the fastest rom I have ever used and its perfect beacause its tailor made by me, for me. Its really not that hard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782