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At first i would like to thank all guys in the community that worked for it and making this possible - you all are doing this for fun and not for a salary, you all are idealists.
But, especially to kyphur, how it will goes on now? Bug fixing or releasing the one we really wanted?
Almost everybody, me too, flashed a WM6 version either Vanilla or v0.01 and is now sreaming that this is and that is not working. Of course it is a little bit frustating but why you should give up the primary goal - the building of a stable and note beta based rom - for bug fixing?
Now the first WM6 rom is out, the issue with the unnamed source of the "real" in difference to the "beta" rom steps more and more in the background and the time for releasing the real rom, as you wanted to do it, comes closer and closer.
I think it would be a much bigger effort to work on the real rom and checking the dangerous items in it, than doing that bug fixing.
As more you concentrate on this as faster it will be there and, in the end, when we have it, nobody will uses the bugfixes anymore.
other opinions?
I have not abandoned the original Rom Base for WMXL. It is still there and I still want to release a version based on it or it's predecessor (such as an approved for official release carrier Rom).
kyphur said:
I have not abandoned the original Rom Base for WMXL. It is still there and I still want to release a version based on it or it's predecessor (such as an approved for official release carrier Rom).
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Great, thank you and in case that you did not not recognized my pm´s, just delete them.
You´re great!
I say head on to the final release. There are enough guru's here who can figure out how to fix those niggly little bugs, but there's only Kryphur with his finger on the crossbow ROM...
Absolutely,
No other e.g. the same opinions?
I, too are anxious to see the original wm6 rom development coming around at some later stage. I can understand the recent hype though, since I also use my Hermes both as a tech toy and as a work system being torn between these both "system states" often enough. The advent of a stable productive version would surely make my day and I believe the original devt. was a better chance in this direction. For the time being, I am quite content with playing around with what is availeable as of now, knowing that I can always revert to my 'stable' HTC Test rom.
So many great possibilities have surfaced in just the last couple of days, that I am quite sure soon we will basically be able to find solutions for everyones different needs and priorities here.
I for one am definitely keeping an eye out for k's original rom project.
Thank you for your effort and support.
BZ
I agree with apokryphus's premise, which needed to be expressed. I am sitting back waiting for the "original" ROM that kyphur promised. I use my device for work and play, and don't have time or motivation to be squashing bugs all the time When I flash, I want to have a working system that I won't have to constantly return to the forum to find bug fixes for, and I know there are many out there like myself.
Now, friend Kyphur, you are stuck with trying to field all the posts in the "Issues" thread, while at the same time working on the original goal. Did you guys see how heated the thread got at a couple of points?
A thousand thanks, Kyphur, I admire (but don't envy) you! Just don't let the furor raised by the "early release" sidetrack you, PLEASE! "
BZ" as we used to say in the Navy: "Bravo Zulu" (signal talk for "Well Done.")
Best regards to you and your collaborators.
Ben, deported from Chi-Town to Florida.
In according to duttys "rom koch" all we need at last is a stable and original rom then we will have all we need to cook our own specified rom with appz we want and without those we do not want.
I think when kyphur will release his genuine rom, we will have one of the best devices - with out gps - that we can have!
Hello,
I know many of those "rom-cookers" whant to realise their "own" rom, but at the moment there are so many cooked roms... so no one know which is the right (newest, fastest, most stable, most features etc.).
Wouldn't it be intelligent to work all together on one "xda-rom"... perhaps we can reache a better, and faster development if we all work together on one "XDA-Developers-ROM".
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Hello,
I know many of those "rom-cookers" whant to realise their "own" rom, but at the moment there are so many cooked roms... so no one know which is the right (newest, fastest, most stable, most features etc.).
Wouldn't it be intelligent to work all together on one "xda-rom"... perhaps we can reache a better, and faster development if we all work together on one "XDA-Developers-ROM".
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yes and no... because we all have our own different opinions...
there are really only 3 different ROMS...
Black 2.5 has its own source
Dutty v2 has his own source
lsvw has its own source
where is the Custell 1.2 was derived from the Dopod leaked beta ROM which has a few HSDPA issues and an older source ROM
xda-live is based on the original vinalla ROM that was leaked months ago...
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yes and no... because we all have our own different opinions...
there are really only 3 different ROMS...
Black 2.5 has its own source
Dutty v2 has his own source
lsvw has its own source
where is the Custell 1.2 was derived from the Dopod leaked beta ROM which has a few HSDPA issues and an older source ROM
xda-live is based on the original vinalla ROM that was leaked months ago...
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thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.
So, meaning to say, we can safely test only Black, Dutty, and LSVW, to see which one is better?...I understand it is a matter of preference, but some rom doesn't have what the other have...
Anyway, it is more fun to test and sort out all problem with all the roms, but sometimes, when they all realeased just about the same time... you have to pick one. Currently I'm on Black v2.5 from Dutty v1....
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thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.
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umm its a public forum loser... and im telling the public the truth as he requests the information about all the ROMS... hence i provided the correct information
how about you actually do your research.....
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umm its a public forum loser... and im telling the public the truth as he requests the information about all the ROMS... hence i provided the correct information
how about you actually do your research.....
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Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.
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Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.
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i dont talk down others ROMS.... i simply report the facts on request...
its as simple as that... he wanted to know the information to where the sources came from and the differences so i told him...
calm down... i think there are a box of tissues in your kitchen cupboard.... you sound like you need them...
i was refering to the issues with the Dopod Source... i did not say that you hadnt fixed those issues or found workarounds for them... so calm down chump...
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thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.
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Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.
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Dude sorry but there was no need for that kind of reaction, the whole point behind cooked roms is that they are not perfect, ive had to make MANY MANY ammends to my guides site because of mistakes etc... walshy was providing informative answers to the OP, you have already provided two new versions of CUSTEL WM6 (1.1 and 1.2) so why go ape**** when somebody points out another fault???!
Uhhh... I think the reason(s) for some of the chefs not wanting to collaborate might have just revealed themselves.
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Dude sorry but there was no need for that kind of reaction, the whole point behind cooked roms is that they are not perfect, ive had to make MANY MANY ammends to my guides site because of mistakes etc... walshy was providing informative answers to the OP, you have already provided two new versions of CUSTEL WM6 (1.1 and 1.2) so why go ape**** when somebody points out another fault???!
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I highly doubt he has ever used the rom so how would he know of a fault that isn't even posted as a fault in my thread?
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I highly doubt he has ever used the rom so how would he know of a fault that isn't even posted as a fault in my thread?
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i pulled apart the Dopod Beta ROM which is how i know about its issues and details... i pull apart all ROMS... including yours
its part of the process of seeing where they REALLY come from....
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i pulled apart the Dopod Beta ROM which is how i know about its issues and details... i pull apart all ROMS... including yours
its part of the process of seeing where they REALLY come from....
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then if you did you also know that the fixes are in the rom too.
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then if you did you also know that the fixes are in the rom too.
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yes... as i reiterated in my previous posts that i simply ripped apart the ROMS and said the Dopod beta has issues and is not what it seems...
pulling forces to create a better rom would be the logical thing to do, but i guess theres too many "creative differences" between each chef. as well as too many fanboys and haters for each flavour.
why cant we all just get along? this forum is going downhill fast... please stop making it into another howard forums
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pulling forces to create a better rom would be the logical thing to do, but i guess theres too many "creative differences" between each chef. as well as too many fanboys and haters for each flavour.
why cant we all just get along? this forum is going downhill fast... please stop making it into another howard forums
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what about building an application that merges a rom from selectable "blocks"... so evry user can merge his own rom out of standard-parts (base + packagex + packagey etc).
many of those roms have greate performance but are overloaded with apps no one needs.
with a possibility to build an own rom by simply selecting some packages everyone can realise his own ideas and we all can work together on those standard packages.
perhaps an online-directory for those packaes would by cool (like installaling software on linux)... at the moment it is realy hard to find al thos packages in thier newest version
Don't worry about it too much - eventually, the aformentioned fanboys and haters will go away, fascinated with their next new shiny toy leaving behind those of us who are genuinely interested in the technology and the device and taking the whole thing forward.
Custel, you over-reacted to walshie's post, end-of. As far as I could tell, he was simply offering an explanation of where the various ROMs began their life without favouring one in particular.
Wind your neck in, eh mate? ;-)
Mods : please lock this thread before it degenerates any further
Cheers,
Smiffy!
Get it right!!!
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many of those roms have greate performance but are overloaded with apps no one needs.
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This is completely wrong. I have used and tested all of the ROMs. Yes. They do have a few select programs added to each of them. No. They are not overloaded!!! It is storage memory which is mostly empty. The add-ons if you were to actually look are very small. The only slightly bigger app would be any PDF viewer added. And that is still no biggy. A merged ROM---hmm well---who cares. A none FAULTLY ROM ---hmm well ---Thats what im all for!!! Peace
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Don't worry about it too much - eventually, the aformentioned fanboys and haters will go away, fascinated with their next new shiny toy leaving behind those of us who are genuinely interested in the technology and the device and taking the whole thing forward.
Custel, you over-reacted to walshie's post, end-of. As far as I could tell, he was simply offering an explanation of where the various ROMs began their life without favouring one in particular.
Wind your neck in, eh mate? ;-)
Mods : please lock this thread before it degenerates any further
Cheers,
Smiffy!
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im with you on that one... mod lock the thread
simply put u cant merge roms because there are people that enjoy the cingular versions people that enjoy the dopod versions people that enjoy certiain features that dont pertain to others. It would be a nice concept but where dealing with roms which include many variations of options and mods that cater to those who benefit from it. So in essense there can be no one rom for anyone thats why even providers have different versions for diff markets. Its just no possible to have one version .Not with different providers and programs etc.
And i wouldnt bash any of the cookers out there because there doing a hell of a job some of there roms are almost close to being a OEM rom . I mean seriously there beating the microsft at there own game . These wm6 roms are fantastic . So why hate when your not contributing to the people as they are. Breaking down roms etc is fine but hoenslt ythe majority of us dont care where they come from we just reap the results from the cookers work and effort. I believe that it really imature to try to bash or disparage people that are apart of the whole opensource game. I mean there doing this for us ya know. And it takes hella time to do what they do something that the people talking trash do not put the time and effort to do.
Just before the threa gets locked I'djust like to re-iterate that we all have our own opinions on what makes a good rom so you'll never get one XDA ROM to suit everyone. Just look at Dutty - he releases 3 in one go as some like it clean, others with tools etc.
Let's all just be grateful for what we get and work together to solve the main, common issues that affect WM6 as a whole.
I've tried various ROMs All the original 1.35's, 1.37's and the 1.93. The last Hong Kong WWE release 1.93.831.1 didn't really live up to my expectations either. Many of the cooked ROMs are a real improvement, but I found Swiftblades ROMs to be the most stable and best performing ones upto now. Just wanted to share this with you. 3.2 is working so well that I'm not really sure if I'll change to his 4.0 ROM. But ah, for the sake of trying I might flash it anyway...
We all appreciate your opinion, but why opening a Thread just for it?!?!?!?!
You could leave your feedback inside SwiftBL's thread...
Sometimes I just don't understand these people....
HastaSSSS
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I found Swiftblades ROMs to be the most stable and best performing ones upto now.
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As the thread is started +1 for me. Swiftblades are kick ass ROM
I have tested many many so far, and for now, they are the most stable...
Many thanks to all our cookers, I love you
Dutty's Rom's for teh win... every time...
Dont like Swift's Volume Tweak that makes every MP3 sound like garbage cuz of the elevated GAIN...
another pointless thread
yes guys lets close this thread I can see this getting ridiculous soon, every rom is different every person tastes is different, I dont force or cookers force any one to use thier rom, All I can say every cook spend a lot of time cooking to get the most of our devices so all cooks should be appreciated, Wethere one rom is gooder than the other
Missing "AppToDate" which is available in the TLR ROMs, in my opinion. Otherwise, you have install new ROMs and all programs again and again to be your device updated...
I have seen many threads have been popping up with new 6.5 ROMS for other phones. While I know that these are NOT full versions of 6.5 they do have added features.
So my question is ... Are we (The Vogue users) going to get to see these updates.
Regards
Focusedonsound
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I have seen many threads have been popping up with new 6.5 ROMS for other phones. While I know that these are NOT full versions of 6.5 they do have added features.
So my question is ... Are we (The Vogue users) going to get to see these updates.
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Focusedonsound
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it depends on if your chefs feel like going through the countless hours of building it and porting it to your phone. I'm sure they will eventually but it's not easy, trust me.
actually nfsfan has already been working on it. It doesn't work totally yet for the vogue (no calls and text issues) but it's on the way.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=54245&page=2
Confilipper has already done it over at PPCGeeks. He has released a beta for Alltel users.
Pretty buggy but it's fast........
Sadly the WM6.5 build 21139 is a fake. The dsms are hexed, and so is the core. The CMHome plugin doesn't work, neither does any of the "new" addons. I ported CMHome which is supposedly a 6.5 component, however its only dependencies that are different from that of the 21014 build are XMLLite.dll and CCore.dll. Running it on 21014 build freezes the phone just like on the fake 21139 build.
Thanks anyways
sorry to hear that you waisted your time working on the 6-5 NFSMAN, thanks for doing your thing as usual.
So are all of these other 6.5 roms that we see all over the place fakes as well?
Im glad to see that we still have a group of good developers (like yourself) who are still dedicated towards bringing us the latest & greatest!
I flashed the so called 6.5 last night and it seemed fairly fast.
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So are all of these other 6.5 roms that we see all over the place fakes as well?
Im glad to see that we still have a group of good developers (like yourself) who are still dedicated towards bringing us the latest & greatest!
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Yea, of course. They all originate from the same source... The Blue Angel ROM.
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I flashed the so called 6.5 last night and it seemed fairly fast.
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It isn't any faster than the 21014 at all. And nothing is new in it!! Many things are broken, because the build is a mix of a bunch of other older builds. The fileexplorer has different icons, but it doesn't look like anything MS would incorporate. Besides think about it... If this was real, MS would be all over it.
Thanks for Sprint 1.08. Works great
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If this was real, MS would be all over it.
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Do you think so? I mean, we already do SO much with the latest ROMs that's totally against warranty, contract, ect... Besides, we're all good beta testers!
Hi all, are there any Android donut ROMs for the HTC hero? I know there are some for some other android phone but are there any ports for the hero ?
If there were, you think it wouldn't show up? Have some patience, the device hasn't even been out for a month yet.
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If there were, you think it wouldn't show up? Have some patience, the device hasn't even been out for a month yet.
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There was no need for that kind of reply...
Sorry for asking.
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Sorry for asking.
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lol! well i too am just wondering why there has not been a rom for the phone yet!
Yeah i hear the "its only been out for a month" but seriuosly??? the magic had roms before that but just by looking at the hero forums there doesnt seem anyone to be working on cooking roms..
exactly my point minogue, i know it might be tough to make the ROMs but its not like it can't be done
Well the phone has been rooted already.
However many people rooted their magic and g1 to install the htc Hero rom. And I guess since we have an HTC Hero, developers are not interested in making roms or optiming the current HTC Hero Rom.
yea well I still dont understand why they wouldnt want to optimize the hero its supposed to be the best android phone yet wouldn't they want to play around with it and see what they can make out of it?
Well hopefully HTC will release an update soon. It's said to be released within next months.
yea at least the update is out soon so I guess well all just have to wait
as i have said before
i too find it very strange that no chef is on board with us hero users
as we all know the chefs like to come/be first.....and we have nobody
unless the HTC update is all we need
Yeah, i was kinda hoping Cyanogen would get himself a Hero and start optimizing the ROM to improves speed, along with maybe some extra Donut features.
But i think the problem with the Hero's Sense UI is that it's not open source and so you're not allowed to tweak or mess with it. Only the underlying Android is open source and so may be meddled with and distributed.
Cobblers! Windows mobile is not open source and that's been getting cooked for years!
The main reason i reckon is because we already have what everyone wants....that's why the roms are all adding Hero stuff to the Magic.
They'll be here soon enough, in the meantime, be happy with the fact that you have what everyone else wants...!
I believe that Paul from Modaco is going to be cooking soon.
He's already posted stock unbranded and branded ROM's and mentioned cooking up a ROM with new Sense UI stuff soon.
I hope it's True. Paul's bits on using recovery image has already got me rooting and doing nandroid backups etc (I supplied the stock t_mobile rom to him as a result)
I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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Yep, nothing much out there yet.
If we do get people working on speed improvements/optimisations then that will be great. Back on my touch HD some of the roms were very slick.
Sense UI upgrades are main thing, along with new versions of Android itself. We'll probaly get them faster as rom's here than official upgrades
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I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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You wouldnt want to customize something that is allready very good? If I could I would optimize it so its even greater than It Is. But that's just me I guess other people dobt wabt to make something that Is great greater
I believe the reason there is no cooking going on is the fact that there is nothing to upgrade yet. The Hero ROMs that are available right now are the latest thing, there is nothing newer so there is nothing to upgrade or borrow from better ROMs. Once there are newer phones and/or ROMs the cooking should start itself
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I believe the reason there is no cooking going on is the fact that there is nothing to upgrade yet. The Hero ROMs that are available right now are the latest thing, there is nothing newer so there is nothing to upgrade or borrow from better ROMs. Once there are newer phones and/or ROMs the cooking should start itself
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Errrr NO. I've seen roms for magic that include a lot of the new donut performance stuff. so there is newer stuff out there.
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Errrr NO. I've seen roms for magic that include a lot of the new donut performance stuff. so there is newer stuff out there.
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The donut stuff came from a developer release by Google. Its not from another phone.