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best cooked wm6 rom poll at&t 8525

just seeing what every body things of all these cooked wm6 roms and whats ranks the highest on here for a At&T 8525...
my vote goes for VP3G's v2.0

I thought you said "poll"
Interesting - you've started a poll without actually including the poll! That's the sort of thing I'd do!!
My vote is currently going to vp3G's ROM, with Slueth255 a very close second. The only reason for that way round is vp3G's applications are closer to my "normal" set than Slueth's - that's it!
P.S. I'm sure you're going to get flamed to death as this question has been asked SO many times before. Still thought it was worth answering though as ROMs change so quickly so my answer does too.

I flashed my new 8525 to VP's rom on friday night and haven't had any real problems yet.
I love it, works nice and fast.

people... there have already been about 6 or 7 polls RUN in Hermes Windows Mobile forum... if you look up the top right you will see the "search" function.... i suggest using this as it returns some good results...
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walshieau said:
people... there have already been about 6 or 7 polls RUN in Hermes Windows Mobile forum... if you look up the top right you will see the "search" function.... i suggest using this as it returns some good results...
MOD please close...
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Where's austin? I think we need another one...

CUSTEL said:
Where's austin? I think we need another one...
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oh didnt you hear.. he hosts his own site now these days i believe... dont think its going that well though

Ok, wuck-fits
This poll has been altered.
Now we want everyone to vote which is the 'Best WM6 Rom Poll' poll.
I think my favorite one was the one where Austin deliberately left out Black because JJ didn't answer his PM.

More because the rom isnt released on this site anymore

CUSTEL;1343386 said:
More because the rom isnt released on this site anymore
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And that never made sense to me either.
We all here at xda-developers know the 'dramas' behind some of the past friction between some of you talented cooks. We saw the heat from misunderstandings; whether it was regarding donations, or taking work - only releasing or supporting Roms to another site. What's the big deal? I thought this was a hobby. I don't want to start listing names of all the talent who contribute (which would obviously include you, JJ, and Austin) but all, including the cooks benefit. So if someone wanted to move to another forum to self moderate, why would we not want to make all choices we are aware of available for vote.
(poll: what's your favorite color? here's your choices - blue or red)

berdinkerdickle said:
And that never made sense to me either.
We all here at xda-developers know the 'dramas' behind some of the past friction between some of you talented cooks. We saw the heat from misunderstandings; whether it was regarding donations, or taking work - only releasing or supporting Roms to another site. What's the big deal? I thought this was a hobby. I don't want to start listing names of all the talent who contribute (which would obviously include you, JJ, and Austin) but all, including the cooks benefit. So if someone wanted to move to another forum to self moderate, why would we not want to make all choices we are aware of available for vote.
(poll: what's your favorite color? here's your choices - blue or red)
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red no doubt...

So, back to topic.
I think 'Best' is relative and subjective.
What's best for one person may not be for another.
I lean toward the 'Lite' or 'Stripped'
another may lean toward 'carrier optimized'
Try it, if it works, it's the 'Best' for you.
One hint however, not a rule; if a cook cooks in carrier bloat, the same carrier as you and he uses, and you like the bloat, it's very likely their carrier specific Roms will be the best for you.

Re:
How does one go about cooking their own ROM? I'd love to start tweaking this phone out.

wingmanjd said:
How does one go about cooking their own ROM? I'd love to start tweaking this phone out.
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here's a good place to start learning
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881

Talk about bringing a thread back from the dead...LOL
Jim

vp3G's 3.62.3. I've occasionally loaded new ones as they are released but it all goes back to vp3G for my personal preferences of stability of the apps included, available RAM (before I install my own apps), and overall "look & feel" of his ROMs.
However, I am looking forward to the upcoming release of Schaps ROM with WM 6.1. I think his roms are top notch as well.

Where have all the good cooks went?

I am a newbie here, just joint the community not too long ago. However noted that all the good cooks went missing? Previously, every month there be a number of new roms being released? However, lately not much of new roms being released? Where have all the good cook went? Will here be a 'ghost' town especially with the forthcoming Kaiser?
Just my 2 cents of opinion?

alancstan said:
I am a newbie here, just joint the community not too long ago. However noted that all the good cooks went missing? Previously, every month there be a number of new roms being released? However, lately not much of new roms being released? Where have all the good cook went? Will here be a 'ghost' town especially with the forthcoming Kaiser?
Just my 2 cents of opinion?
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I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.

esseff said:
I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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Oooh, you'll catch hell for that one...

I think with WM6 being released, it has taken the punch out of some of the cooks fun\obsession. Also there has been several good kitchens released that allow for just about anybody to cook their own rom just how they want it. Check out the Pandora thread it's great!

I hope they reappear for the Kaiser.

esseff said:
I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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Pff...What the hell are you doing here on this forum, if you think most of us dont live a normal life, like we are all nerds or people with no life.. because most of us like to modify our phone..
Look in the miror, you will see the person with no life..

Bro Bram87,
Please don't start flamming over here.... just a discussion wil do. Everyone here loves their Hermes!

waiting for wm7...

The real reason is that the production WM6 release is very stable & fast

Some cooks are still here... We still have some Betas... That means LIFE

Err i think the cooks are here, its just all the roms out there dont really need any improvement now?
if you try a few of the latest ones, you will see you'll have very little rom related issues, so no need, to cook, and improve the roms!

fil,
Yes I do agree, the current batch of roms are very stable and fast. But however, I do find that a cook is always a cook, whereby the perfection will never take place, always challenging till the end!
my 2 cents of opinion...

alancstan said:
However noted that all the good cooks went missing?
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Pardon me?
I'll agree with the others... it's getting pretty difficult to improve on the Hermes ROM at this point. Working on it, though.

Aside from the facts that there are some excellent chefs still in the hermes kitchen, that the roms are probably near completition for WM6 etc - I think what drove a lot of the cooks away was a combination of the constant flaming that seems to go on in the Hermes forums - I typically find most of it pretty funny but reading through some of the other forums I am always surprised how there is nowhere near as much flaming going on. That and I think they got sick of people complaining there rom broke this or that when it was something stupid the person did and didn't follow the instructions or do a simple search for the solution. I could easily see how that could put somebody off of releasing to the public something they worked so hard to make.
Regardless of all that, there are some great chefs about - VP3g, Schapps, Duttythroy, Dutty (I think still puts out roms), JasJamming (though he doesn't realse them here any more - somebody usually post a link when he does). If I forgot to mention you or butchered the spelling of your name - sorry - not intentional

I think the cooks on here are doing an excellent job! the problem is Microsoft now is starting to do some sh** right and making a fast rom for our phone. I've tried every rom on xda that I could find at least once to test them. It's just getting harder for the cooks to cook better roms when they are working with the software that is released and taking their time to help us.
Just remember its like the military the stuff they've have for 10 years is just new to citizens. its kinda similar with wm6 just give em time and until then enjoy the awesome roms that we have!!!!
.... or you could build your own if your that risky.

Which WM6-Rom is the Best

Which WM6-Rom is the best for the XDA-Trion??
Thanks for your Help

...let it begin
DING DING DING

Hurray, another newbie jumps in without doing his research.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280506
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283336
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1547390
Just as a few examples of all the other people who asked the same sort of question.
The simple answer? The best ROM is the one that you like best. There's no right answer. But make sure you do your research first - if you go flashing them without doing HardSPL, then you might end up with a nice new shiny paperweight.
There's a list of some of the ROMs at the wiki, where your journey should have begun. There's also some excellent guides over at MrVanx's site.
(In another note... when are people going to do their research? :-/)
Be thankful I wrote this before everyone else tears your head off...

"The simple answer? The best ROM is the one that you like best."
What if this guy is evil and considers the best ROM to be the one that you like the least?

for me i cant sem to decide. Ive had em all, well a lot of of em anyway. I keep switching back and forth. But yeah definately read read read. Some do run a bit faster than other been when it comes down to it, its gonna be personal liking. Good luck

i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too

drutort said:
i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too
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Likes/dislikes, reviews, and comparisons for each ROM can be found in the threads dedicated to those ROMs. Simply read what every who has replied has to say about it.

yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?

I prefer vp3G's ROMs.

drutort said:
yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?
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A "contest" is unnecessary, and a list of suggestions/ideas would be just as hard to wade through.
As the Hermes is nearing the end of its development cycle, this will be a moot point soon. But if you want to put something together, the best idea would be a review website. Instead of saying which is better, just list all of the features that each ROM has, along with screenshots and metrics on battery life and speed. Then people can decide on their own which is better.

vp3g's rom is the best.. but thats cause im partial to ATT

drutort said:
i would like some more articles on these roms... with pro's and cons and just what they are more focusing on... that way readers can pick of off some lists or specs... but that isnt always clear or easy to find.
Good documentation and or reviews of roms is what is needed, for the new person or for ppl who simply want to try a different rom, ya for the advanced users who have tried almost all it doesnt help but for rest of us I can see already that nauturally most of the authers are going to be biased to some way with there roms.. and this should be documented and then the right readers/users will be targeted much better thus more ppl that are too
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So when are you going to get started on this then? Please point us to the link when you are done.
Cheers
WB

drutort said:
yes that is one way, and very unreliable way and painfully slow way... reading through all of it...
what has to be done is a contest between individuals who write reviews/articles... then people can vote based on how they feel for that review... after the winner... other suggestions or ideas are compiled from the other articles into wiki...
there you go one centralized idea/view by the majority vote
updates have to be added from time to time.. with solutions or new bugs and features...
do you know how many threads would be reduced if something like this was incorporated?
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Yes, it is slow. But flashing a Hermes ROM is not something you rush. Always do your homework.
I disagree on the unreliable part, however. Its like when software is developed, they dont have ONE person test it, because bugs, etc. can be overlooked easily. They have MANY testers. The replies to the threads are from the, if you will, testers of the ROM. They report good and bad. I don't know any better way, besides trying for yourself. I personally research tho.

personal opinion either of shamanix or schaps roms have been stable and worked for me pretty well

steve0020 said:
Which WM6-Rom is the best for the XDA-Trion??
Thanks for your Help
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Link below is for your Triton. This threat is for Hermes only.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
My personal opinion for Hermes is Kin0Kin and Schaps' Rom. These ROMs are fast and stable.

!!!!!!! Extra Extra Super Ultra New Wm6.1 Version !!!!!!!!!!!!

@Admins, Banish me if you will for this post, but i think it has to be said...
All rom cookers do a great job (i my self use a rom made from them for my Hermes).
But i wonder if it would be better to create much less frequent but also much more stable and bug-less roms.
I can not stop feeling i enter a super market when ever i visit this forum, where you have a multitude of the same products only with a different label, and company's try to sell them as innovative new ones.
Just an opinion.....

Obnoxious Comment
If you do no tlike it or if you are, somehow, displeased you have three options:
1. Simply don't use them
2. Look the other way
3. Leave the Forum
Greetings,

or just cook your own Ideal Rom

Kevlar-Source said:
If you do no tlike it or if you are, somehow, displeased you have three options:
1. Simply don't use them
2. Look the other way
3. Leave the Forum
Greetings,
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Agreed 101%

the whole reason they are frequent is to keep them bug free
or more stable cores etc.
at the end of the day if you dont like it as Kevlar source said - dont come to the forum..
and my 2cents - use an official rom and quit complaining!

Tech world changes every darn minute, no wonder why this forum changes every minute too! Just take what you want and leave the rest alone!! Makes everyone happy!!!!

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the whole reason they are frequent is to keep them bug free
or more stable cores etc.
at the end of the day if you dont like it as Kevlar source said - dont come to the forum..
and my 2cents - use an official rom and quit complaining!
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Totally Agree!

ai6908 said:
Tech world changes every darn minute, no wonder why this forum changes every minute too! Just take what you want and leave the rest alone!! Makes everyone happy!!!!
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amen

... where is JR from Ewing Oil?

There's LEARNING and EXPERIENCES when you have some problem. And here WE are to solve THAT problem together. If you can't make any CONTRIBUTION for this Forum, then STOP complaining and START to be a "USER" and help the author (and other member) to make a better result for all of us.
The point is USE WHAT YOU LIKE but NEVER JUDGE what you don't like .
rgds,
Ermen

Please now that you see you made a or half point please change your title (advanced edit) . It's pity for all the real cookers. Thanks

i like the roms... and the most are stable enough.
i know this isn't the right section, but it had to be said:
i don't like the way the roms are presented in this forum.
for example the title of the topics. it's so chaotic. on every title is "update" but in real they are so old.
another example: there are topics sticky which are one year old. and nobody needs them.
correct me if i'm wrong that nobody needs them. for example again: the rom kitchen of bepe. the images are also down of that topic.
but i like the roms and i am happy that this great forum exists XD but this forum could be better, if the topics were more coherent.
*sry for bad english*

I happen to like seeing all of the new rom postings. It's a great way to see what new software is out there, along with I cannot cook a rom if my life depened on it. The heck with this guy..
Great job to all rom chefs! Thanks for all the hard work!

Yes, some of these old stickys have out lived their usefullness and just take up space. They need to be reviewed & removed periodically by someone!

Asxetos said:
... you have a multitude of the same products only with a different label, and company's try to sell them as innovative new ones.
Just an opinion.....
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the biggest problem with your statement is that you're expecting something with no cost (read: free) as if you do with commercial products.
it's like expecting linux community (or open source community for that matter) that they can come up with an absolute software suite like Microsoft's, sure you get 1 option to choose from and you can expect quality and such, the thing is that Gates makes billions off of it while the chefs here don't.

I gotta ask, do you expect someone to make this "PERFECT" rom, or just pull it out of their bum? Thats why this site exists, to try to refine and make the perfect rom. Impossible mission if you ask me as MY perfect rom WON'T be YOURS...
All feed back given goes into making a stable and fast rom BUT that takes time. By the time someone has cooked the "perfect" rom, another core has come along that makes the rom just cooked look bad. Why do you think the chefs keep cooking???
Thank you to all the rom chefs out there.... Love your work.

I'll probably catch H-e-double hockey-stick for saying this, but I half way agree with the post... I definitely appreciate the hard work the chef's put in, and realize that the majority of them never see a dime for their efforts. But it does seem, at times, that some of them are just putting out ROMs as fast as they can with little or no attempt to thoroughly test the stability of what they're about to imply is ok to put on our (expensive) phones. Again - I understand this is time consuming and they cannot possibly test all the combinations of hardware and software configurations, but some ROMs have seemed so instable as to imply they weren't tested *at all*. I think a certain few chefs (eg VP3g) go the extra mile to make sure what they put on here is worthy of this forum.
Having said that, the chefs definitely do us all a great service and I thank them all. I'm a proud holder of an 8525 with a DVH ROM and, as a software developer for the government I'm sure I could cook a ROM... but the point is - I don't have the time or desire... These chefs sacrifice their time so that people like us can (better) enjoy our phones...
That's just my 2c worth.

lol nobody can make a bugless rom.. if you dont like cooked roms use an official one and see how you like that, half the speed, zero features, resets every day, doesnt even work really.

I can't see how topics like this keep getting everyone's attention. I mean the topic's title is one thing and the content is another. People who do nothing and expect/demand everything should not get this kind of attention at all. This topic should be locked asap.
"In Japan, you'd be dead" -- Jet Li (Lethal Weapon 4)

Asxetos said:
@Admins, Banish me if you will for this post, but i think it has to be said...
All rom cookers do a great job (i my self use a rom made from them for my Hermes).
But i wonder if it would be better to create much less frequent but also much more stable and bug-less roms.
I can not stop feeling i enter a super market when ever i visit this forum, where you have a multitude of the same products only with a different label, and company's try to sell them as innovative new ones.
Just an opinion.....
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I really don't understand this attitude. What is the name of this forum? XDA-DEVELOPERS. What does that mean? That means this is a developers forum. And that implies that everything in this forum is in development. All the roms you find here are created by developers for developers. We are the parasites. We are leeching on whatever we find. Most of the time, we don't know what we are leeching on. That is because we are not DEVELOPERS. But that doesn't mean we can teach the DEVELOPERS how to behave. Don't you think that it would be very very cruel to come here, leech on their products and then teach them how to work?

Suggest some speedy ROMs for my new Diamond

I've been using SwiftBL 7.5 Full and I must say I like that ROM a little more than Dutty 3.2. I got Dutty's ROM so far and I don't know where to start to look for some speedy ROMs. I'm not talking lite only, I mean anything as long as it isn't too stripped down. Let me start the specifics...
1. Full Bluetooth Functionality especially A2DP, Headset, AVRCP, and OBEX
2. Stripped to the bare minimum but functional as in no Getting Started BS, no T9 correction (it gets annoying when you do everything DIY), Help Center since this is the great and only source to come for help , Live this and that, and if possible PIE unless it will conflict with the whole deal like in regular Windows
3. Allow access to some of the most deepest settings around
4. Leaving the HTC stuff in, maybe tweaking TouchFlo a little more if possible.
I might seem to be too strict so tell me these things and the pros and cons relating to what I want in the ROM you suggest. Thanks and I'm glad to be a member here, hopefully not just a one-post wonder Keep up the great work guys.

i know the purrrrr-fect ROM for you!!!
its called...search_button.nbh
seriously just read some threads and test the ROMS yourself. Nobody is going to care about what you want and find you a ROM to suit your picky list of requests.
everybody has different views on different ROMS, so what people think maybe fast, steady and perfect may not be in your case.

Duttys V3.3 WWE 5.2.20931.1.5_1.09.25.23

m00moo said:
i know the purrrrr-fect ROM for you!!!
its called...search_button.nbh
seriously just read some threads and test the ROMS yourself. Nobody is going to care about what you want and find you a ROM to suit your picky list of requests.
everybody has different views on different ROMS, so what people think maybe fast, steady and perfect may not be in your case.
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good one moomoo...

welcome new member
but the other poster is right
you need to start reading........search....search ohhh and search some more
whats good for me.....may not be good for you
best and only way to see what rom is best is to start flashing
good luck and all the best with you diamond

You can start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640 , the benchmark of benchmarks... hihi

u've tried swift's and duttys... which are one of the better ones out there...
if u prefer swifts (as i do) you should stick to it...
as above no absolute 1 rom is miles ahead of another... what suits A will not always suit B and C etc...

I've been told udK isn't bad, I"m giving it a try now.

Dia Duit ROM v07
But seriously, you should try it yourself. Only you know what is the best for you

tangcla said:
I've been told udK isn't bad, I"m giving it a try now.
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i've tried it... imo doesnt seem as fast as swift's...
to date still cant fault his 7.0/7.5 >.<

The best is seatone cupra v2, and suiller Dia Duit v07 is good also.

i am suprised
mods haven't shut this thread down
this type of thread don't normally last this long

liamhere said:
mods haven't shut this thread down
this type of thread don't normally last this long
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soon my friend... soon

Thread closed per XDA Bylaw 8675309.
Best / Recommended ROM threads are not permitted. Flash them all, and test them all.