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Merging ROM's

Hello,
I know many of those "rom-cookers" whant to realise their "own" rom, but at the moment there are so many cooked roms... so no one know which is the right (newest, fastest, most stable, most features etc.).
Wouldn't it be intelligent to work all together on one "xda-rom"... perhaps we can reache a better, and faster development if we all work together on one "XDA-Developers-ROM".

HerrVorragend said:
Hello,
I know many of those "rom-cookers" whant to realise their "own" rom, but at the moment there are so many cooked roms... so no one know which is the right (newest, fastest, most stable, most features etc.).
Wouldn't it be intelligent to work all together on one "xda-rom"... perhaps we can reache a better, and faster development if we all work together on one "XDA-Developers-ROM".
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yes and no... because we all have our own different opinions...
there are really only 3 different ROMS...
Black 2.5 has its own source
Dutty v2 has his own source
lsvw has its own source
where is the Custell 1.2 was derived from the Dopod leaked beta ROM which has a few HSDPA issues and an older source ROM
xda-live is based on the original vinalla ROM that was leaked months ago...

walshieau said:
yes and no... because we all have our own different opinions...
there are really only 3 different ROMS...
Black 2.5 has its own source
Dutty v2 has his own source
lsvw has its own source
where is the Custell 1.2 was derived from the Dopod leaked beta ROM which has a few HSDPA issues and an older source ROM
xda-live is based on the original vinalla ROM that was leaked months ago...
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thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.

So, meaning to say, we can safely test only Black, Dutty, and LSVW, to see which one is better?...I understand it is a matter of preference, but some rom doesn't have what the other have...
Anyway, it is more fun to test and sort out all problem with all the roms, but sometimes, when they all realeased just about the same time... you have to pick one. Currently I'm on Black v2.5 from Dutty v1....

CUSTEL said:
thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.
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umm its a public forum loser... and im telling the public the truth as he requests the information about all the ROMS... hence i provided the correct information
how about you actually do your research.....

walshieau said:
umm its a public forum loser... and im telling the public the truth as he requests the information about all the ROMS... hence i provided the correct information
how about you actually do your research.....
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Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.

CUSTEL said:
Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.
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i dont talk down others ROMS.... i simply report the facts on request...
its as simple as that... he wanted to know the information to where the sources came from and the differences so i told him...
calm down... i think there are a box of tissues in your kitchen cupboard.... you sound like you need them...
i was refering to the issues with the Dopod Source... i did not say that you hadnt fixed those issues or found workarounds for them... so calm down chump...

CUSTEL said:
thats why no one has reported them... Honestly if you don't have anything good to say keep your ****ing mouth shut seeing no one asked for your opinion in the first place.
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CUSTEL said:
Funny how many are running my version with no problem, I have no reason to stoop to your level and down talk anothers rom to get theirs used more. It's pathetic the way some act on here.
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Dude sorry but there was no need for that kind of reaction, the whole point behind cooked roms is that they are not perfect, ive had to make MANY MANY ammends to my guides site because of mistakes etc... walshy was providing informative answers to the OP, you have already provided two new versions of CUSTEL WM6 (1.1 and 1.2) so why go ape**** when somebody points out another fault???!

Uhhh... I think the reason(s) for some of the chefs not wanting to collaborate might have just revealed themselves.

mrvanx said:
Dude sorry but there was no need for that kind of reaction, the whole point behind cooked roms is that they are not perfect, ive had to make MANY MANY ammends to my guides site because of mistakes etc... walshy was providing informative answers to the OP, you have already provided two new versions of CUSTEL WM6 (1.1 and 1.2) so why go ape**** when somebody points out another fault???!
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I highly doubt he has ever used the rom so how would he know of a fault that isn't even posted as a fault in my thread?

CUSTEL said:
I highly doubt he has ever used the rom so how would he know of a fault that isn't even posted as a fault in my thread?
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i pulled apart the Dopod Beta ROM which is how i know about its issues and details... i pull apart all ROMS... including yours
its part of the process of seeing where they REALLY come from....

walshieau said:
i pulled apart the Dopod Beta ROM which is how i know about its issues and details... i pull apart all ROMS... including yours
its part of the process of seeing where they REALLY come from....
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then if you did you also know that the fixes are in the rom too.

faria said:
then if you did you also know that the fixes are in the rom too.
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yes... as i reiterated in my previous posts that i simply ripped apart the ROMS and said the Dopod beta has issues and is not what it seems...

pulling forces to create a better rom would be the logical thing to do, but i guess theres too many "creative differences" between each chef. as well as too many fanboys and haters for each flavour.
why cant we all just get along? this forum is going downhill fast... please stop making it into another howard forums

thefunkygibbon said:
pulling forces to create a better rom would be the logical thing to do, but i guess theres too many "creative differences" between each chef. as well as too many fanboys and haters for each flavour.
why cant we all just get along? this forum is going downhill fast... please stop making it into another howard forums
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what about building an application that merges a rom from selectable "blocks"... so evry user can merge his own rom out of standard-parts (base + packagex + packagey etc).
many of those roms have greate performance but are overloaded with apps no one needs.
with a possibility to build an own rom by simply selecting some packages everyone can realise his own ideas and we all can work together on those standard packages.
perhaps an online-directory for those packaes would by cool (like installaling software on linux)... at the moment it is realy hard to find al thos packages in thier newest version

Don't worry about it too much - eventually, the aformentioned fanboys and haters will go away, fascinated with their next new shiny toy leaving behind those of us who are genuinely interested in the technology and the device and taking the whole thing forward.
Custel, you over-reacted to walshie's post, end-of. As far as I could tell, he was simply offering an explanation of where the various ROMs began their life without favouring one in particular.
Wind your neck in, eh mate? ;-)
Mods : please lock this thread before it degenerates any further
Cheers,
Smiffy!

Get it right!!!
HerrVorragend said:
many of those roms have greate performance but are overloaded with apps no one needs.
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This is completely wrong. I have used and tested all of the ROMs. Yes. They do have a few select programs added to each of them. No. They are not overloaded!!! It is storage memory which is mostly empty. The add-ons if you were to actually look are very small. The only slightly bigger app would be any PDF viewer added. And that is still no biggy. A merged ROM---hmm well---who cares. A none FAULTLY ROM ---hmm well ---Thats what im all for!!! Peace

Lordsmiff said:
Don't worry about it too much - eventually, the aformentioned fanboys and haters will go away, fascinated with their next new shiny toy leaving behind those of us who are genuinely interested in the technology and the device and taking the whole thing forward.
Custel, you over-reacted to walshie's post, end-of. As far as I could tell, he was simply offering an explanation of where the various ROMs began their life without favouring one in particular.
Wind your neck in, eh mate? ;-)
Mods : please lock this thread before it degenerates any further
Cheers,
Smiffy!
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im with you on that one... mod lock the thread

simply put u cant merge roms because there are people that enjoy the cingular versions people that enjoy the dopod versions people that enjoy certiain features that dont pertain to others. It would be a nice concept but where dealing with roms which include many variations of options and mods that cater to those who benefit from it. So in essense there can be no one rom for anyone thats why even providers have different versions for diff markets. Its just no possible to have one version .Not with different providers and programs etc.
And i wouldnt bash any of the cookers out there because there doing a hell of a job some of there roms are almost close to being a OEM rom . I mean seriously there beating the microsft at there own game . These wm6 roms are fantastic . So why hate when your not contributing to the people as they are. Breaking down roms etc is fine but hoenslt ythe majority of us dont care where they come from we just reap the results from the cookers work and effort. I believe that it really imature to try to bash or disparage people that are apart of the whole opensource game. I mean there doing this for us ya know. And it takes hella time to do what they do something that the people talking trash do not put the time and effort to do.

Just before the threa gets locked I'djust like to re-iterate that we all have our own opinions on what makes a good rom so you'll never get one XDA ROM to suit everyone. Just look at Dutty - he releases 3 in one go as some like it clean, others with tools etc.
Let's all just be grateful for what we get and work together to solve the main, common issues that affect WM6 as a whole.

New Rom Poll Rate Your Fav And Say Your Like And What Can Be Improved.. N00bs Wecome.

Ok i said i would make a new one so here goes. This is a place where you can tell what you like about a rom and what you think could be adressed. Please keep it on topic and Maybe the new people can look here first and pick which rom they will flash but before you do please read the Wiki and all the other posts that are stickys and there is a great upgrade guide made by MrVanx which can be found here! So go read... Anyone that has something negative to say well I could careless cuz I'm not here to make friends just pimp my Hermes! this place is full of great cooks and true WM guru's read and learn not post and ask is your best bet in the start
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
Black 3.5 is not included since it is no longer posted or supported on this forum however my black 3.5 super lite is
Please Note new comers that we do not have the time to give nice happy responses to questions that have been asked 1000000 of times so its best to search about your issue or question before starting a new thread I have warned you and will now say that with starting a new thread you leave yourself open to being flamed and abused in all kinds of ways if your question has been talked about before....

this is a good idea. I will be creating an excel spreadsheet to document this if we get some good responses. chefs contact me for log.

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Whats good for one user is not good for another thats why the poll does not make sense. An updated chart of tweaks, programs installed and kernel and perhaps what the rom is geared towards would be more useful.

lets all grow up a little.. if you dont like a thread that someone made then dont post..
Post's have been deleted for not really being on topic

I voted LVSW. It is a Vanilla flavor of a STABLE ROM. I have my own CABs for anything else I use. Did I mention it was STABLE!!!!!

shogunmark said:
lets all grow up a little.. if you dont like a thread that someone made then dont post..
Post's have been deleted for not really being on topic
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Well it's not the first time you delete threads that hit the heart of a topic, remember when i started a thread on WM6 for the Herms long before WM6 was even a thought of running on the Herms and you deleted posts in my thread and changed my topic? It's all kiss ass even between some of the mods here if you ask me In the end this poll still SUCKS!!!

I picked LSVW after using all of Blacks ROM's that produced unstable results with MMS and repeated resets.

As I have only flashed and run two of the WM6 ROMs that have been posted, I don't really know how valid my vote is, but I chose Custel's work. I decided to try his 2.5 Cingular version mainly because of the way Custel handles himself in the forum, and also because of the good reviews he was getting in his threads.
This ROM has been very stabile on my device, even with the plethora of apps I choose to install. It is faster than any of the ROMs I've used, including a few shipped versions of WM5, and the storage and program space it gives me is wonderful.
My gratitude goes out to Custel, all the other chefs, and also to the brilliant people who've created the various tools required to pull off this ... um ... competition. And also to XDA-DEV for it's hosting of this fabulous site.
Regards,
-pvs

Black???
Departure Jasjammina from xda- dev should not be reason rendering his ROM from inquiry popularity. Inquiry without Black ROM them as car without wheels

wpbear said:
I voted LVSW. It is a Vanilla flavor of a STABLE ROM. I have my own CABs for anything else I use. Did I mention it was STABLE!!!!!
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these are my words
Matrix44

DAFTEK said:
Well it's not the first time you delete threads that hit the heart of a topic, remember when i started a thread on WM6 for the Herms long before WM6 was even a thought of running on the Herms and you deleted posts in my thread and changed my topic? It's all kiss ass even between some of the mods here if you ask me In the end this poll still SUCKS!!!
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it wasnt about deleting because they may or may not have hit the heart of the topic, thats all up to personal opinion.. when i saw the topic and replies i was looking at it in a different direction; "can this thread be helpful to others?" so i answered myself yes and continued playing waste management. its not about kiss ass either, its about keeping things calm around here, everyone complains about n00b posts, etc.. but no one wants to help make it a better place.. I would have done the same thing if you had posted this or some n00b with 1 post under their belt and things got out of control.. its simple.. IF YOU DONT LIKE A THREAD THEN DONT RESPOND TO IT... if no one responds then it will fall to the bottom of the list, its that simple
~no reply is necessary, we are just hijacking this thread, if you have a problem with me, or my moderation style then pm

Good to see LVSW on the list. His ROMs have always been very stable.

@shogunmark..... And i agree with you 100% on that response but, Can you see that in the end this is still a fight between JJ's Black and the rest? Custel? Only that austynsnyc is the puppet here Maybe i am wrong but this is why i don't like this poll and if i am then you all have my apologies and ill go back to my corner.

Sleuth255 said:
Good to see LVSW on the list. His ROMs have always been very stable.
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If you cant beat them, join them, so i did.... I voted LVSW #1 overall best, then all the Variants also deserve credit for the final iron works...
Also may i add, That even after the second time around on this poll the first time he was not included, this time YOU GOT HIS NAME WRONG IN THE POLL lol

I'd like to make my vote, but there must be an option to choose more than one version... i think...
And like to see Black in the list...don't understund why isn't in the pool...
Regards.

for those of you that did not follow the first one. Black has been taken out because JJ is not releasing his ROM on this forum and this poll is open to ROM's released in this forum. Yes there have been many polls before and I'm sure there will be many more unless we have one stickied!! Hint Hint... this is a good place to talk about what you like and what you would like improved in the ROM. thanks for the strict moderation. Sorry for spelling LWSV name wrong oops... at least i think i have all the major players this time until the next batch comes along.
Personally i like my ROM's because they have the extra stuff that i never use taken out and the major stuff still left in which give me very large storage to add what ever i like and not worry about it also i always run a 4MB pagepool which i believe is faster and more stable than a 6MB

austinsnyc said:
Yes there have been many polls before and I'm sure there will be many more unless we have one stickied!! Hint Hint... this is a good place to talk about what you like and what you would like improved in the ROM. thanks for the strict moderation. Sorry for spelling LWSV name wrong oops... at least i think i have all the major players this time until the next batch comes along.
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What about the posibility to choose more than one..... can you do this in the poll?

no the whole point of this really is so new members can come here and look at what other people say about the roms and and others views and maybe help them in finding out which one is right for them with out asking the time ending question ""Which Rom is The Best"
we all know all the ROMS released here are fuken great but some people like different things thats all thats why i ask everyone to write there like and disslikes about the rom the think is the best for THEM... all these roms benchmark the same pretty much so deep inside there are only a few key changes such as kernel XIP and so on but most members dont know about that stuff they just want to know if it works and what cool apps it comes with

DAFTEK said:
@shogunmark..... And i agree with you 100% on that response but, Can you see that in the end this is still a fight between JJ's Black and the rest? Custel? Only that austynsnyc is the puppet here Maybe i am wrong but this is why i don't like this poll and if i am then you all have my apologies and ill go back to my corner.
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that may very well be... but someone out there is going to read this thread and find some of the informational useful and will make their decision based on it. But i do think that all the roms, even jj's should have been included, he isnt the first chef to move their roms and support, sometimes its just natural progression..

Agreement
Agreement - thank you

Where have all the good cooks went?

I am a newbie here, just joint the community not too long ago. However noted that all the good cooks went missing? Previously, every month there be a number of new roms being released? However, lately not much of new roms being released? Where have all the good cook went? Will here be a 'ghost' town especially with the forthcoming Kaiser?
Just my 2 cents of opinion?

alancstan said:
I am a newbie here, just joint the community not too long ago. However noted that all the good cooks went missing? Previously, every month there be a number of new roms being released? However, lately not much of new roms being released? Where have all the good cook went? Will here be a 'ghost' town especially with the forthcoming Kaiser?
Just my 2 cents of opinion?
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I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.

esseff said:
I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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Oooh, you'll catch hell for that one...

I think with WM6 being released, it has taken the punch out of some of the cooks fun\obsession. Also there has been several good kitchens released that allow for just about anybody to cook their own rom just how they want it. Check out the Pandora thread it's great!

I hope they reappear for the Kaiser.

esseff said:
I think they finally realised there is more to life than a stupid phone.
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Pff...What the hell are you doing here on this forum, if you think most of us dont live a normal life, like we are all nerds or people with no life.. because most of us like to modify our phone..
Look in the miror, you will see the person with no life..

Bro Bram87,
Please don't start flamming over here.... just a discussion wil do. Everyone here loves their Hermes!

waiting for wm7...

The real reason is that the production WM6 release is very stable & fast

Some cooks are still here... We still have some Betas... That means LIFE

Err i think the cooks are here, its just all the roms out there dont really need any improvement now?
if you try a few of the latest ones, you will see you'll have very little rom related issues, so no need, to cook, and improve the roms!

fil,
Yes I do agree, the current batch of roms are very stable and fast. But however, I do find that a cook is always a cook, whereby the perfection will never take place, always challenging till the end!
my 2 cents of opinion...

alancstan said:
However noted that all the good cooks went missing?
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Pardon me?
I'll agree with the others... it's getting pretty difficult to improve on the Hermes ROM at this point. Working on it, though.

Aside from the facts that there are some excellent chefs still in the hermes kitchen, that the roms are probably near completition for WM6 etc - I think what drove a lot of the cooks away was a combination of the constant flaming that seems to go on in the Hermes forums - I typically find most of it pretty funny but reading through some of the other forums I am always surprised how there is nowhere near as much flaming going on. That and I think they got sick of people complaining there rom broke this or that when it was something stupid the person did and didn't follow the instructions or do a simple search for the solution. I could easily see how that could put somebody off of releasing to the public something they worked so hard to make.
Regardless of all that, there are some great chefs about - VP3g, Schapps, Duttythroy, Dutty (I think still puts out roms), JasJamming (though he doesn't realse them here any more - somebody usually post a link when he does). If I forgot to mention you or butchered the spelling of your name - sorry - not intentional

I think the cooks on here are doing an excellent job! the problem is Microsoft now is starting to do some sh** right and making a fast rom for our phone. I've tried every rom on xda that I could find at least once to test them. It's just getting harder for the cooks to cook better roms when they are working with the software that is released and taking their time to help us.
Just remember its like the military the stuff they've have for 10 years is just new to citizens. its kinda similar with wm6 just give em time and until then enjoy the awesome roms that we have!!!!
.... or you could build your own if your that risky.

!!!!!!! Extra Extra Super Ultra New Wm6.1 Version !!!!!!!!!!!!

@Admins, Banish me if you will for this post, but i think it has to be said...
All rom cookers do a great job (i my self use a rom made from them for my Hermes).
But i wonder if it would be better to create much less frequent but also much more stable and bug-less roms.
I can not stop feeling i enter a super market when ever i visit this forum, where you have a multitude of the same products only with a different label, and company's try to sell them as innovative new ones.
Just an opinion.....

Obnoxious Comment
If you do no tlike it or if you are, somehow, displeased you have three options:
1. Simply don't use them
2. Look the other way
3. Leave the Forum
Greetings,

or just cook your own Ideal Rom

Kevlar-Source said:
If you do no tlike it or if you are, somehow, displeased you have three options:
1. Simply don't use them
2. Look the other way
3. Leave the Forum
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Agreed 101%

the whole reason they are frequent is to keep them bug free
or more stable cores etc.
at the end of the day if you dont like it as Kevlar source said - dont come to the forum..
and my 2cents - use an official rom and quit complaining!

Tech world changes every darn minute, no wonder why this forum changes every minute too! Just take what you want and leave the rest alone!! Makes everyone happy!!!!

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the whole reason they are frequent is to keep them bug free
or more stable cores etc.
at the end of the day if you dont like it as Kevlar source said - dont come to the forum..
and my 2cents - use an official rom and quit complaining!
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Totally Agree!

ai6908 said:
Tech world changes every darn minute, no wonder why this forum changes every minute too! Just take what you want and leave the rest alone!! Makes everyone happy!!!!
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amen

... where is JR from Ewing Oil?

There's LEARNING and EXPERIENCES when you have some problem. And here WE are to solve THAT problem together. If you can't make any CONTRIBUTION for this Forum, then STOP complaining and START to be a "USER" and help the author (and other member) to make a better result for all of us.
The point is USE WHAT YOU LIKE but NEVER JUDGE what you don't like .
rgds,
Ermen

Please now that you see you made a or half point please change your title (advanced edit) . It's pity for all the real cookers. Thanks

i like the roms... and the most are stable enough.
i know this isn't the right section, but it had to be said:
i don't like the way the roms are presented in this forum.
for example the title of the topics. it's so chaotic. on every title is "update" but in real they are so old.
another example: there are topics sticky which are one year old. and nobody needs them.
correct me if i'm wrong that nobody needs them. for example again: the rom kitchen of bepe. the images are also down of that topic.
but i like the roms and i am happy that this great forum exists XD but this forum could be better, if the topics were more coherent.
*sry for bad english*

I happen to like seeing all of the new rom postings. It's a great way to see what new software is out there, along with I cannot cook a rom if my life depened on it. The heck with this guy..
Great job to all rom chefs! Thanks for all the hard work!

Yes, some of these old stickys have out lived their usefullness and just take up space. They need to be reviewed & removed periodically by someone!

Asxetos said:
... you have a multitude of the same products only with a different label, and company's try to sell them as innovative new ones.
Just an opinion.....
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the biggest problem with your statement is that you're expecting something with no cost (read: free) as if you do with commercial products.
it's like expecting linux community (or open source community for that matter) that they can come up with an absolute software suite like Microsoft's, sure you get 1 option to choose from and you can expect quality and such, the thing is that Gates makes billions off of it while the chefs here don't.

I gotta ask, do you expect someone to make this "PERFECT" rom, or just pull it out of their bum? Thats why this site exists, to try to refine and make the perfect rom. Impossible mission if you ask me as MY perfect rom WON'T be YOURS...
All feed back given goes into making a stable and fast rom BUT that takes time. By the time someone has cooked the "perfect" rom, another core has come along that makes the rom just cooked look bad. Why do you think the chefs keep cooking???
Thank you to all the rom chefs out there.... Love your work.

I'll probably catch H-e-double hockey-stick for saying this, but I half way agree with the post... I definitely appreciate the hard work the chef's put in, and realize that the majority of them never see a dime for their efforts. But it does seem, at times, that some of them are just putting out ROMs as fast as they can with little or no attempt to thoroughly test the stability of what they're about to imply is ok to put on our (expensive) phones. Again - I understand this is time consuming and they cannot possibly test all the combinations of hardware and software configurations, but some ROMs have seemed so instable as to imply they weren't tested *at all*. I think a certain few chefs (eg VP3g) go the extra mile to make sure what they put on here is worthy of this forum.
Having said that, the chefs definitely do us all a great service and I thank them all. I'm a proud holder of an 8525 with a DVH ROM and, as a software developer for the government I'm sure I could cook a ROM... but the point is - I don't have the time or desire... These chefs sacrifice their time so that people like us can (better) enjoy our phones...
That's just my 2c worth.

lol nobody can make a bugless rom.. if you dont like cooked roms use an official one and see how you like that, half the speed, zero features, resets every day, doesnt even work really.

I can't see how topics like this keep getting everyone's attention. I mean the topic's title is one thing and the content is another. People who do nothing and expect/demand everything should not get this kind of attention at all. This topic should be locked asap.
"In Japan, you'd be dead" -- Jet Li (Lethal Weapon 4)

Asxetos said:
@Admins, Banish me if you will for this post, but i think it has to be said...
All rom cookers do a great job (i my self use a rom made from them for my Hermes).
But i wonder if it would be better to create much less frequent but also much more stable and bug-less roms.
I can not stop feeling i enter a super market when ever i visit this forum, where you have a multitude of the same products only with a different label, and company's try to sell them as innovative new ones.
Just an opinion.....
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I really don't understand this attitude. What is the name of this forum? XDA-DEVELOPERS. What does that mean? That means this is a developers forum. And that implies that everything in this forum is in development. All the roms you find here are created by developers for developers. We are the parasites. We are leeching on whatever we find. Most of the time, we don't know what we are leeching on. That is because we are not DEVELOPERS. But that doesn't mean we can teach the DEVELOPERS how to behave. Don't you think that it would be very very cruel to come here, leech on their products and then teach them how to work?

I need a perfect ROM

Hi!
i already change 3 roms within one week. I just want to know that which rom is the best?. because in one rom I had a big benifit of loud speaker when i turn my cellphone face down i autometically turn on, but that rom dont have any shortcuts for programs on home screen. Now i download deepshining X1 the latest one but it doesn't turn on my loud speaker during call when i place it face down. So please anybody advised me which roms is the best in all sense. because it is very hard to install your programs and games again and again. I saw a person have lock screen same like Iphone on tp2. i dont know no how to get that. Anyways please help me with that. Thanks. i will appreciate your effort. Sorry if i am in wrong section.
I have t-mobil TOUCH PRO 2
WINDOWS 6.5

mhassanz said:
Hi!
i already change 3 roms within one week. I just want to know that which rom is the best?. because in one rom I had a big benifit of loud speaker when i turn my cellphone face down i autometically turn on, but that rom dont have any shortcuts for programs on home screen. Now i download deepshining X1 the latest one but it doesn't turn on my loud speaker during call when i place it face down. So please anybody advised me which roms is the best in all sense. because it is very hard to install your programs and games again and again. I saw a person have lock screen same like Iphone on tp2. i dont know no how to get that. Anyways please help me with that. Thanks. i will appreciate your effort. Sorry if i am in wrong section.
I have t-mobil TOUCH PRO 2
WINDOWS 6.5
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I understand what you're asking but "which rom to get" is not appropriate, insulting to the chefs, and very subjective. This thread shall be soon be closed i'm sure, right mods??
But to answer some of your post, the face down speaker phone option you speaking of wanting to do is available as a tweak in almost all roms and is a simple registry tweak (as are all other tweaks) that you can do your self, just search for it and i'm sure you'll find it..

Misunderstanding
I didn't mean it. I dont know which is best like that have almost every option because people here tried almost every rom. I jst tried 3 roms so that is why. Like i installa new rom last night and my camera is not working on that. Unbealiveable

Not again...
There is no such "perfect ROM"!!!
This has been commented many times before.
What is perfect for me could be not for you
Try them all and decide what fits you better
Also as a general idea, enter to ROM section and see what is the one more users have installed, that would give you an idea

orb3000 said:
There is no such "perfect ROM"!!!
This has been commented many times before.
What is perfect for me could be not for you
Try them all and decide what fits you better
Also as a general idea, enter to ROM section and see what is the one more users have installed, that would give you an idea
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This.
You can look at the number of replies in the threads to get an idea which ones you might want to try. Most chefs are also courteous enough to list many of the features and tweaks of their ROMs in the first couple of posts of the thread.
If it helps, some of the more popular ROMs are Valkyrie, the various Energy ROMs, and the various Cell series ROMs.

Perfect roms don't exist. All have pros and cons, its like everyone here is saying, you just have to find one that fits you.
Anyways, on a positive note, the lock application I believe you are looking for is S2U2: http://ac-s2.com/

Take a cooking class
I too, want the PERFECT rom...but for that I will need to learn my way around the kitchen and cook one up myself. Even stock roms have glitches. The difference is that most, if not all the chefs here try to stay on top of glitches. You may need to make some "sacrifices" to what your idea of a perfect rom is, and instead have a really damned good rom. I am still running stock for warranty purposes, as my device is VERY new, that being said, I have spoken with many cooks here as well as many Rhodium "pros", and have come to the conclusion that Energy roms and JoshKoss roms are very good. I cannot tell you from personal experience about these roms, as I stated above, I do know that Chef Josh has been very kind and quick in responding to me over past inquiries.
I wish you luck. Perhaps you should instead consider reading the many extensive tutorials that explain the kitchen. This may be the only way to get YOUR perfect rom. What I may think is perfect you may think is crap. A little scenario...last night I spent HOURS making dinner, I thought it was very good, as did my kids, my husband, however, thought it was just OKAY. Same with the various roms. The chefs cannot please everyone all the time, so perhaps the only sure-fire way to get a perfect rom is to make it yourself.

The perfect ROM - Stock...

jach707 said:
The perfect ROM - Stock...
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ha ha!!

jach707 said:
The perfect ROM - Stock...
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In terms of stability and speed, I have yet to tweak anything to match my stock 6.1.
In terms of eye candy and usefulness, I really like the Energy Leo 6.5 w/ sense 2.5. Most of the features really reduce the time it takes to get to my favorite locations.

Please
Please stop posting in this thread so it falls off, for it is totally pointless.
P.

if you have question so where you can go?
i post that thread because i had a problem with my rom. First of all i recently bought my cellphone then i join this site, and i am learning these stuff like what is rom what is tweak and these kind of stuff. and i post this thread because it was written their discuss Q&A and this type of stuff, but if its hurt someone, i appologize about that and I will not post any thread again here

mhassanz said:
i post that thread because i had a problem with my rom. First of all i recently bought my cellphone then i join this site, and i am learning these stuff like what is rom what is tweak and these kind of stuff. and i post this thread because it was written their discuss Q&A and this type of stuff, but if its hurt someone, i appologize about that and I will not post any thread again here
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So you didn't get the answer you wanted so you are going to take your toys and go home?? No offense but your response sounded like something my 9 year old would throw at me.
Several people answered with rom possibilities, but we also said that the elusive PERFECT ROM is truly a matter of taste. Stable roms are built of off stock 6.1 or 6.5's, and 6.5.3 builds have extra bells and whistles but the consensus seems to be that they are buggier.
I myself stated Energy or JoshKoss roms a few entries above. While I have not tested them myself, the various pages and pages of reviews sound very positive. Others have made other suggestion.
You are chasing unicorns. Period. The only truly perfect rom would be one you build yourself. No chef can cater to your specific wants and needs (unless you PM them and arrange some form of compensation for their time). What I feel would be perfect may be the total opposite of what you or John Doe thinks.
I'm sorry you didn't get the answer you hoped for, and if you choose to not participate in the forums that will be your choice, and frankly, your loss. We have tried to do our best to point you in a direction that may help you. If none of the suggestions fit your needs, then learn to cook your own rom. I understand that it can be tedious to read the many pages associated with the various cooked roms, but I have managed to do that with several of them, you can too. It is the only way you will learn what works and what doesn't. We will guide you, but we won't do the work for you.
I apologize if this seems rude, but it has become quite frustrating to see yet another "perfect rom" thread.

Perfect ROM
Near as I can figure, the perfect ROM is the Apple iphone. Or at least it seems to me that post after post after post is users trying to make Windows Mobile, Look, Act, Feel, Sound like an iphone.
As a not so bright end user of many of the forum genius's works and yet, also devoted fan of Windows Mobile since early Ipaq days, I've found Energy Phoenix to be my personal favorite for hands on simplicity, ease of use and having all the basic features of my TILT 2 working. Curiously before I found that you could even have a custom ROM, I was using as a desktop background one of the pics he uses as his ROM background defaults. So that's how I was attracted to trying it. Pretty retarded huh?
I also use SBP Mobile Shell and have said to **** with POOPFLO3D. I swear I'd like to find the HTC guy who came up with that one and womp em a good one.

pdcpa said:
Near as I can figure, the perfect ROM is the Apple iphone.
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iPhone's OS is the perfect "ROM" for an idiot that barely knows how to turn on his/her phone.
Though I'm perpetuating this thread moving to the top of the topic, can one of the mods please close this thread. PLEASE...

CLOSE please!
Just another "what is the best ROM" thread. PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD.