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Better Safe than Sorry - Do Not Want to Brick My Phone

I very much want to upgrade my O2 Orbit Rom to either WM6 or the B&B developed by Tom. Right now it apparently does not have the UK WM5 on it; according to the Ebay seller I bought it from I would have to go to the Hong Kong site to get an "official update" but the seller claims it would be better not to do so as people are reporting losing their radio and bluetooth. So I have read and re-read through these threads. I hear stories of phones not working after being flashed so I want to be super cautious. Here is what I think I do:
1. Run USPL and wait 5 - 10 minutes until the computer reboots itself.
2. Run either RUU for Tom's B&B or run RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.28_02.67.90_Ship.exe
for the UK WM6 upgrade.
And I should be upgraded, right?
If I end up with huge problems, I think I can revert back to the original factory ROM with the file called:
Arteimg.nbh
But how do I run a nbh file?
Which OS is least likely to cause problems?
Please be gentle with me - I'm a 51 year old woman who is in love with my Orbit and can't live without it so I don't want to take any chances to turn it into a brick. On the other hand, I'd really like to have WM6 and can't get it from the UK d/l site because my S/N matches the Hong Kong site. I live in the US and I'm not sure if I want a Hong Kong OS. I have honestly read through these forums and tried to get all my answers here .... but I just want to double check before I make a big mistake and blow up my phone. Thank you all.

Cinamon said:
I very much want to upgrade my O2 Orbit Rom to either WM6 or the B&B developed by Tom. Right now it apparently does not have the UK WM5 on it; according to the Ebay seller I bought it from I would have to go to the Hong Kong site to get an "official update" but the seller claims it would be better not to do so as people are reporting losing their radio and bluetooth. So I have read and re-read through these threads. I hear stories of phones not working after being flashed so I want to be super cautious. Here is what I think I do:
1. Run USPL and wait 5 - 10 minutes until the computer reboots itself.
2. Run either RUU for Tom's B&B or run RUU_Artemis_O2_UK_3.4.206.2_4.1.13.28_02.67.90_Ship.exe
for the UK WM6 upgrade.
And I should be upgraded, right?
If I end up with huge problems, I think I can revert back to the original factory ROM with the file called:
Arteimg.nbh
But how do I run a nbh file?
Which OS is least likely to cause problems?
Please be gentle with me - I'm a 51 year old woman who is in love with my Orbit and can't live without it so I don't want to take any chances to turn it into a brick. On the other hand, I'd really like to have WM6 and can't get it from the UK d/l site because my S/N matches the Hong Kong site. I live in the US and I'm not sure if I want a Hong Kong OS. I have honestly read through these forums and tried to get all my answers here .... but I just want to double check before I make a big mistake and blow up my phone. Thank you all.
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don't worry, just run the USPL tool, after running this tool, it will reboot your phone automatically... Than flash your phone with a WM6 rom or the B&B rom... And thats it... make sure you backup your contacts before you do the flash, cause it will wipe all your contacts from your phone.
If you don't like the rom you flashed, just run USPL again, and flash it with another rom or back to factory rom.
If you've got any probs, just let us know... there is a lot of wizards out here, who are willing to help. You also can pm me anytime. I'm glad to help if I can.
cheers and goodluck

Beat me to it coolGadget!!
Anyway if you want to see how the Arteimg.nbh is used read this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
You'll need a SD_card to do it.
Good luck, but you wont need it as you seem to have done your homework and as co0lGadget says if you get stuck we'll give you a hand.

macguffin said:
Beat me to it coolGadget!!
Anyway if you want to see how the Arteimg.nbh is used read this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_SD_Card_Flashing
You'll need a SD_card to do it.
Good luck, but you wont need it as you seem to have done your homework and as co0lGadget says if you get stuck we'll give you a hand.
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Hey Matt, good to see you here... I didn't beat you mate... cause I was pretty sure, Wizards like you will be very helpfull too ;-)

You Guys are the best!
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again

Cinamon said:
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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Don't worry u need Only 30 minutes for update Rom.But remember need Run USPL by Pof.When your Phone have SPL 1.11 u can update any Rom u like..!
Cheers..!

Cinamon said:
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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I think you have enough time, the whole procedure takes less than 15mins.
No need to take out the card, just follow the instructions above.
Good luck!

Cinamon said:
I have to leave for work in one hour - do I have enough time to do all of this? Will you guys be around if something bad happens? I can't imagine going even a day without my phone ... smile ... Should I take the microSD out first?
Thanks again
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No need to take the card out.
You probably do have time USPL take about 3 mins flash of ROM takes about 10-15
However these things are always best to do if you're not in a rush or desperate to get your phone up and running. Also if you put tom's b&b on you'll need about 30 minutes to just play with it

tom_codon said:
Don't worry u need Only 30 minutes for update Rom.But remember need Run USPL by Pof.When your Phone have SPL 1.11 u can update any Rom u like..!
Cheers..!
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When your Phone have SPL 1.11 - just in case you're wondering this is one of the red numbers you see when the phone first starts up, but you probably already knew that.

Holding my breath
OK, I'm going to do it - soft resetting now. But before I take the plunge, will you wizards please tell me - will I have the least problems with the UK WM6 release (which I found posted here as I can't d/l it from the site) or Tom's B&B which looks very cool but seems to have caused problems for some people. I trust your judgement - please tell me what you think. And btw, even though I'm old I love gadgets and cool tricks, so TouchFlo looks awesome to me, unless it is going to cause problems when installing files etc as I've read here.

Cinamon said:
OK, I'm going to do it - soft resetting now. But before I take the plunge, will you wizards please tell me - will I have the least problems with the UK WM6 release (which I found posted here as I can't d/l it from the site) or Tom's B&B which looks very cool but seems to have caused problems for some people. I trust your judgement - please tell me what you think. And btw, even though I'm old I love gadgets and cool tricks, so TouchFlo looks awesome to me, unless it is going to cause problems when installing files etc as I've read here.
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WM6 is ok but not that different from WM5 to look at and I guarantee that by tomorrow you'll have wanted to see what tom's rom is like and had to re-flash.
Since using toms rom i've been able to dump a lot of my third party software (mostly stuff from spb) and as you say it's very cool to looks at and will impress all your friends.

OK Tom's it is .......
Cross your fingers for me please ....

Postponing the Flash
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.

Cinamon said:
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.
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Hi Interesting...!
Take care..!

Cinamon said:
Before I took the first step, I realized that my phone was not seeing my SD card. I decided maybe I had not seated it properly. I put it back together but this time it did not see my SD card or my SIM chip. I put it back together more carefully now but decided that I don't want to rush this - will proceed when I'm home tonight.
Thanks again - you guys are the best. Hope one of you will be around when I'm really ready.
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You probably has the WM5 bug or something. With the WM5 rom, sometimes it will mess up your sd card with folders in strange caracters etc...
But you're right, if you want to do this, and its your first time, you better do it when you're not in the rush... just prepare good, sit back and relax, and the flash will be good ;-)
I'm not sure if I'll be able to get online tonight... cause my internet is shut off since friday, my provider can't tell me where the problem is, and how to fix it... So I hope tonight after work, I'll be able to get online at home. And be able to help you out if needed... so fingers cross...
GoodLuck...

CoolGadget said:
You probably has the WM5 bug or something. With the WM5 rom, sometimes it will mess up your sd card with folders in strange caracters etc......
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I've been watching this thread and sorry to hi jack the thread. But, this was one of my questions about updating ROMS from original WM5. I haven't gotten the phone yet (P3300), but I want to upgrade it to B&B when I get it. Should I run the patch for the card corruption fix before I do the USPL and ROM flash? Or just go strait to the USPL and ROM update?
I've been reading for a long time but I'm still not very clear on what programs to use to flash and all that. I also want to be able to store my original ROM just in case I want to revert back to OEM. How do I do that?

shawndh said:
I've been watching this thread and sorry to hi jack the thread. But, this was one of my questions about updating ROMS from original WM5. I haven't gotten the phone yet (P3300), but I want to upgrade it to B&B when I get it. Should I run the patch for the card corruption fix before I do the USPL and ROM flash? Or just go strait to the USPL and ROM update?
I've been reading for a long time but I'm still not very clear on what programs to use to flash and all that. I also want to be able to store my original ROM just in case I want to revert back to OEM. How do I do that?
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who's your phone provider?

macguffin said:
who's your phone provider?
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I'll be using it on T-Mobile, USA. The phone will also be purchased in the US.
BTW, Just to clarify, I'm buying the phone from an online store, so the phone will be unlocked. I'll have to reconfigure it to work with T-Mobile SMS and T-Mobile Web service.

Just run the USPL tool and then the rom of your choice.
If anything does go wrong you can get an original wm5 rom from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/17854890...0_wwe_ship.exe
If you brick your device just go into the bootloader screen and run this it will get you back to wm5 and you can try again.

macguffin said:
Just run the USPL tool and then the rom of your choice.
If anything does go wrong you can get an original wm5 rom from here
http://rapidshare.com/files/17854890...0_wwe_ship.exe
If you brick your device just go into the bootloader screen and run this it will get you back to wm5 and you can try again.
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So I can't "dump" and store my own ROM? I have to download a dumped WM5 OEM from from someone else? I just wanted to make sure that I could put it back exactly the way it was just in case I needed to send it back or ship to HTC for repairs or something.
Also, will they be able to tell that the ROM was flashed and flashed back if I send it in for warranty repairs?

Quick How-To for gps/rev a flash/upgrade

ok well i just made up this list a while ago to help someone out, and have ended up giving it to quite a few ppl now, so i figured i might as well post it here under an appropriate title for all to easily see and access.
i know dharvey wrote a great tutorial, and that there are prob others, but..what the heck. plus this is pretty quick and easy, though i cant say that it is as full and thought out and great as dharvey4651's (thx man!)...
IMPORTANT!!! ONLY SPRINT users follow below steps 5 and 8-11!! Altell users can follow all the steps except step 5 as long as they use a different ppst.exe, not the one mentioned below.
"#1- Backup all pim info and anything else you might want.
#2- Ensure you are currently running your carriers original official oem rom (os and radio) (if you have never flashed it at all then dont worry youre good to go).
#3- Unlock using imcokemans 2.31 unlocker (this for gps roms)
#4- run the sprint leaked rom.exe (here, close to the bottom where it says "original rom")
#5- SPRINT ONLY:allow all customizations to complete and run (i know - it takes a lil while)
#6- flash to desired rom.
#7- after she's all booted up, hard-reset.
#8- download and run cab from here (altell users run your own ppst stuff on the same post, non-sprint and non-altell users SKIP TO STEP 12): http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=282955&postcount=139
#9- allow soft-rest.
#10- navigate to \windows folder and run ppst.exe
#11- allow soft reset.
#12- allow boot-up, customize, restore pim info etc...
credit to boggsie"

didnt use unlocker
I just ran the leaked ROM upgrade. It found my phone and flashed it. I never ran any of the SPL unlockers. Should I be worried about not being able to unlock later, or have trouble flashing an 'Official' release?

d1rtyd33z said:
I just ran the leaked ROM upgrade. It found my phone and flashed it. I never ran any of the SPL unlockers. Should I be worried about not being able to unlock later, or have trouble flashing an 'Official' release?
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hey nope you'll be just fine, assuming that you arent going to flash to a custom rom. what is your current spl? you just will not be able to flash a custom rom until you unlock.

what happened to the link for the leaked rom ????

avalanchedude said:
what happened to the link for the leaked rom ????
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oops lol must not have copied over quite right and how i wanted...updated first post
thanks.

HI i have been reading alot on this new rom, will this work on bell and also is there a way to "backup" the current bell rom so that way we can "undo" what we have done to get back to original in case we ever need to? thanks again for everyones hard work.

hi all .....im newbie...using htc touch 2nd gen.... how to unlock the gps in my fon???

Hi All. I just recieved my touch last week and like the phone alot. I have flshed my old phone ( old I-mate PDA) a few times with files from here and it worked great.
But with the Touch you guys are talking about different kinds of touch phones. Where do I check what kind do I have. I am from South Africa and use MTN as my SP.
Will I be able to use the GPS ( Seen it in other threads)
Thank you for your help
Beast

how can I backup my phone?
I never flashed it before, its a Sprint Touch 2007 October.

A50SNAKE said:
HI i have been reading alot on this new rom, will this work on bell and also is there a way to "backup" the current bell rom so that way we can "undo" what we have done to get back to original in case we ever need to? thanks again for everyones hard work.
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check on the ppcgeeks ftp, im pretty sure the stock bell rom/radio has been placed somewhere there.
jhanz said:
hi all .....im newbie...using htc touch 2nd gen.... how to unlock the gps in my fon???
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just read my post! so who is your carrier? when you say 2nd gen, it makes me think your touch is gsm...is that the case?
Da_Beast said:
Hi All. I just recieved my touch last week and like the phone alot. I have flshed my old phone ( old I-mate PDA) a few times with files from here and it worked great.
But with the Touch you guys are talking about different kinds of touch phones. Where do I check what kind do I have. I am from South Africa and use MTN as my SP.
Will I be able to use the GPS ( Seen it in other threads)
Thank you for your help
Beast
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im....not really sure. being on a different continent i dont think it would work the same, unless you were able to find a separate radio only rom for your carrier, in which case you could flash whatever rom you wanted (w/o letting the cusomizations run on first boot), then flash your carriers os only rom, then be good to go!
yrsmart said:
how can I backup my phone?
I never flashed it before, its a Sprint Touch 2007 October.
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what exactly are you trying to back up?

jim256 said:
what exactly are you trying to back up?
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contacts, my documents and appz if possible

yrsmart said:
contacts, my documents and appz if possible
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google and download pim backup
actually...you could just synchronize with active sync, and have it sync your contacts, calendar, and files?

new PPST direct link
This post should be a sticky!!!!
This works perfectly except for the fact that the link to ppcgeeks on #8 is busted. What is missing from that link is the file for ppst.exe. I beat my brains in trying to get the stupid gps to work before I finally realized what was missing from my install.
Here is the PPST file from sprint that you do in fact need to make the gps work great. I lock onto the gps sats in about 15 seconds, in my house, to about 9 of em.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jk3xpkwwg0.zip

flashing cmda phone different from gsm?
Hi All,
I just got my new sprint vogue to replace my t-mobile wizard. I flashed my wizard extensively over the past 2 years but I'm not sure about the Vogue. How does a cmda phone retain its network settings and network contact info if it is flashed when theres no sim card? I'm not talking about PIM info but the info the phone uses to identify itself and communicate with the network.
thanks
Lotus

This worked great. It was my first time flashing and following these instructions everything worked out well and I get locked into satellites with the gps very fast. Thank you.

i have a couple questions. 1st is i have a sprint touch flashed to cricket if i were to install this rom will all my cricket settings stay intact or will i have to reflash to cricket? 2nd does this rom include WM6.1 along with gps, and rev. A?
thanks for any help.

lehrfeld said:
Hi All,
I just got my new sprint vogue to replace my t-mobile wizard. I flashed my wizard extensively over the past 2 years but I'm not sure about the Vogue. How does a cmda phone retain its network settings and network contact info if it is flashed when theres no sim card? I'm not talking about PIM info but the info the phone uses to identify itself and communicate with the network.
thanks
Lotus
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i must say that im not exactly sure how. but i can say that...it just does. if you flash a different radio rom...then you can be in trouble if it is not for your carrier. but we are discussing os only roms here and the network settings are therefore not really affected
and ps for you too, dont allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be run, unless you are sure they are for your carrier
SLCpunk69 said:
i have a couple questions. 1st is i have a sprint touch flashed to cricket if i were to install this rom will all my cricket settings stay intact or will i have to reflash to cricket? 2nd does this rom include WM6.1 along with gps, and rev. A?
thanks for any help.
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ok so..no specific rom is being discussed here. this is just a how-to for what/e rom you want.
and no you should not have to re-flash to cricket as long as you only flash an os-only rom, a rom that does not have a radio included, and you never allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be executed.
but most all the roms that you can flash using these instructions do have 6.1 with gps and rev a yes

BigRed Productions said:
This post should be a sticky!!!!
This works perfectly except for the fact that the link to ppcgeeks on #8 is busted. What is missing from that link is the file for ppst.exe. I beat my brains in trying to get the stupid gps to work before I finally realized what was missing from my install.
Here is the PPST file from sprint that you do in fact need to make the gps work great. I lock onto the gps sats in about 15 seconds, in my house, to about 9 of em.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jk3xpkwwg0.zip
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thanks for pointing out the borken link
link fixed/first post slightly updated.

jim256 said:
i must say that im not exactly sure how. but i can say that...it just does. if you flash a different radio rom...then you can be in trouble if it is not for your carrier. but we are discussing os only roms here and the network settings are therefore not really affected
and ps for you too, dont allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be run, unless you are sure they are for your carrier
ok so..no specific rom is being discussed here. this is just a how-to for what/e rom you want.
and no you should not have to re-flash to cricket as long as you only flash an os-only rom, a rom that does not have a radio included, and you never allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be executed.
but most all the roms that you can flash using these instructions do have 6.1 with gps and rev a yes
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ok so what if i wanted to use a custom rom made using the leaked sprint rom that has the MMS program included i should be fine as long as no "ppst.exe" file run during the install?
thanks for the help

HELP: when i try to load the v3[1].02.rar it asks for a password?????
if i use spb backup to restore in the last step, will that screw things up, since it reinstalls programs, etc as well????

First time installing what do ya think?

Like the title says this is my virgin flash. So what do you guys think should be my first ROM? I've looked at a bunch.
Looking for stability and style.
Just to get this correct I need to unlock my phone even though it's att and I'm using att. (Should I just unlock the CID or both)
Then I need to install HardSPL 7.1?
Then flash the ROM I choose.
Then load APPS as needed?
Thanks for the help!

Hardspl v7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722
I would unlock and supercid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665 then I ran hardspl again just to make sure, because unlocking changes the bootloader.
Then you should be good to go. Hardspl will help you in case you get a bad flash or bad rom, it's easier to recover. Supercid will allow to flash unsigned code (custom roms).
Looks like your on the right track, I'm just not sure where you got v7.1 for hardspl? That's why I included the links.

Also, "any rom you choose", but only from the Hermes forum. Flash a rom for another device means instant brick and you may not be able to recover it.
Hard SPL is a safety net only, there are NO guarantees you won't end up with a permanent brick, Hard SPL or no...
Most times you have to do something REALLY dumb to end up with a total brick but there is a miniscule chance, especially if you are playing around with the radio rom.
Happy flashing...

It was late last night and I couldn't remember if it was 7 or 7.1 lol. I'm charging the phone now. Gonna make sure it's nice and full then I'm gonna give it a shot. Thanks to you both for the help. I just needed to hear I was going about this the right way. I think I'll try one of Schaps ROM's first then try one of Josh's and see what I like about each. I've only got about 50 pages in on each so I'll read alittle more while the phone is charging. Thanks again!!
Oh wanted to ask also is there a Page or sticky just for Apps, skins, themes, and such or do I need to know what I'm looking for and search it?

Dang I thought my other phone had a microSD card in it.....turns out it's M2. Guess I'll stop on the way to work to pick one up. Non SDHC 2gb or less! Another question when it states now copy this to your phone....What file do I copy it to? (I'll head back to the Wiki and see if I can find that myself but figured I'd ask).

copy the RUU_signed.nbh and rename it hermimg.nbh the exe file is the flashing utility, and you don't need it if your flashing via the sd card.
make sure the card is formatted as fat32 (not fat).

Ok I did it the RUU way without the SD card. I'm now at 2.10.01 so I'm good. Now off to work and will hit the unlocker next. Thanks for the help!!

Ok unlock has been completed now I'm going to run Hardspl again. What about the radio I see that is has changed. Should I change that back to what it was at some point?

Ok I've done my first ROM flash wow! I grabbed Schap's WM6 Pro 4.31. I'll try it out and see if I like it. If not try another. Thanks again for helping me thru!

If you wish to risk changing the radio, do so but only if theres a problem. If the radio rom flash is interrupted, you will almost certainly have a brick on your hands.
Use the sd card method to flash so you then minimize the amount of problems you may have.
Remember though, if the radio rom is working fine, don't touch it....
Cheers...

boog321 said:
I would unlock and supercid http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665 then I ran hardspl again just to make sure, because unlocking changes the bootloader.
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Hard-SPL makes your device appear as SuperCID... it's all you need.

vp3G said:
Hard-SPL makes your device appear as SuperCID... it's all you need.
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Ah, cool! Thanks, vp3G! I guess I took all the info wrong. Reading the 2 threads it wasn't clear. I guess my method worked though! haha

Yea, it's all quite confusing... Hard-SPL ended up negating the need to use pof's unlocker. Olipro is a friggin' genius (as is pof).

So all I needed to do was Hardspl and I would have been good to go? I have another hermes I'm doing for myself. I do find I'm not getting very little service if not none at all in the house. I use to get 3 or 4 bars. Should I change the radio? Does the radio change with each ROM loaded?

You can try going back to the radio that you originally had, just do it the sd method to minimize the chance of something going wrong.
You could compare the difference between the 2 hermes.

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Hard-SPL ended up negating the need to use pof's unlocker).
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True, but if you wish to sim unlock then you still need Pof's unlocker.

I have to admit I'm getting there myself LOL. It really isn't that hard after you do it the first time. Some things I got stuck on (Pure newbness).
Some ROMs are compressed with .rar and .7.....I found you must download a unzipper/compressor to extract the files you need. I used Winrar some use 7zip. I'm getting there. There is soooo much info on this site. You find that you search for an answer and you get a page of answers with 3 different ways to do it LOL!

We have all been there at one point, too!
When I first brought my hermes home and it was still locked to the at&t network, I was so worried I was going to break it.
Lots of reading, and lots of tinkering later, and I am working on my own rom. Granted, I didn't port it, but I have done so much tweaking that I don't think anyone could tell where it came from.
Funny thing is, I still keep learning so much more. I think it's like my other hobby, ham radio, I don't think anyone can try everything! It seems to go on and on.

Ya know you gotta love the internet LOL. I've learned about so many things (mostly due to them breaking lol). Here's another question for you guys. For those who have Josh's 6.1 ROM. Where is the lock unlock button??? I see the lock device setup for password protection but I don't see a regular lock the screen so I don't make but calls button. LOL I'm gonna try to load his S2U2 thing when I figure out how to do it.

You can add device lock to the today screen under settings>today (at least it should be there), but if your using manilla I don't have a clue lol

Is there a simple way to downgrade to WM6 or WM6.1 after installing WM6.5?

I've read people saying that it is possible to downgrade back to WM6.1 or 6.0 after upgrading to WM6.5. I'm trying out some new ROMs on my Hermes, but I don't want to be stuck with a WM6.5 ROM if I decide that I don't like a ROM after I flash it...
I have HardSPL Olipro on my handset. Say for example I wanted to flash Josh's Dark Winter WM6.5 ROM (from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461490). I have the OEM AT&T stripped ROM, and I have the flavour of the ROM I want to flash.
Is there an easy way to downgrade or flash back to WM6/6.1 from this point if I successfully flash the WM6.5 ROM? I've looked round xdadevs and other venues, and the only downgrade guides I can find are mrvanx's SPL guides. I'm sure somebody has written a downgrade guide but I can't for the life of me find it!

just download a WM6 or WM6.1 ROM of your choice and flash it

JR_de said:
just download a WM6 or WM6.1 ROM of your choice and flash it
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At the moment I'm flashing WM6.1 ROMs using the SD card method from the bootloader. Would this still be possible after flashing to WM6.5, or would I have to flash with the USB cable?

You still can use the SD Card method.

Just Flash it
christopherwoods said:
At the moment I'm flashing WM6.1 ROMs using the SD card method from the bootloader. Would this still be possible after flashing to WM6.5, or would I have to flash with the USB cable?
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You just need to flash the 6.0 or 6.1 with ANY method... its a Hermes not a PSP!

Haha - so it's really that simple? I can just take the RUU_signed.nbh from ANY WM6/6.1/6.5 release, rename it to hermimg.nbh and SD card flash it with HardSPL... and it'll always work fine, no problems?
The reason I'm being so careful is because my Hermes is my only phone, and I have no other phone for at least several months Can't afford to brick my only communications device!

christopherwoods said:
Haha - so it's really that simple? I can just take the RUU_signed.nbh from ANY WM6/6.1/6.5 release, rename it to hermimg.nbh and SD card flash it with HardSPL... and it'll always work fine, no problems?
The reason I'm being so careful is because my Hermes is my only phone, and I have no other phone for at least several months Can't afford to brick my only communications device!
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Once you have HardSPLed the Hermes its virtually impossible to brick it. Also the same methodology and process that was used to flash the 6.5 ROM can be used to flash the 6.1 ROM. So do a search, download and flash to your pleasure is contented.

the fact of it being wm6/6.1 or 6.5 is just the os that is in with the rom unlike computers the whole rom is flashed so the os is removed with it.
Have Fun

Well that's cool
I was under the impression that flashing some WM6.5 ROMs did stuff to the radio stack, which then caused problems if you tried to flash back to WM6.1... As long as you've got HardSPL, is this not a problem then?

I've done it many times, just make sure you flash a stock OEM rom first, the different compressions used may cause a problem, which is taken care of by the stock rom. After doing that, as long as you have the hard spl, you shouldn't have a problem.

haha.. guess u didnt finish reading the thread on wm6.5
josh was da one who said its not possible to downgrade but at the end of the thread. he said he was jus joking. lolz
its okay that u flash 6.1 from 6.5. it makes no difference. but always flash a default rom first cos there might be problem if u flash directly from rom to rom. especailly from big storage ones

wyeyip said:
haha.. guess u didnt finish reading the thread on wm6.5
josh was da one who said its not possible to downgrade but at the end of the thread. he said he was jus joking. lolz
its okay that u flash 6.1 from 6.5. it makes no difference. but always flash a default rom first cos there might be problem if u flash directly from rom to rom. especailly from big storage ones
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I got a bit worried after I kept on seeing people saying that it was difficult / possibly dangerous / impossible
My problem is whenever I use xda-devs, I always open 12 threads at once in different tabs - then I flick back and forth from one tab to another reading so many different things at once, sometimes I don't read everything in a thread by mistake. I guess that's served me right hasn't it!
Johnzai said:
I've done it many times, just make sure you flash a stock OEM rom first, the different compressions used may cause a problem, which is taken care of by the stock rom. After doing that, as long as you have the hard spl, you shouldn't have a problem.
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I was wondering why the 6.5 ROM chefs were recommending that you flash the stock AT&T rom before flashing theirs... Thanks for inadvertantly answering that question for me
Thanks also to all who replied to this thread. I couldn't find a single definitive answer on how safe it was to flash between 6.1 and 6.5 (and maybe back to 6.1 again); I've had a look at the various 6.5 ROMs and they seem to be fairly similar - but do people have their own particular favourites which work well and have a decent featureset?

Can anyone tell me where i can download windows mobile 6.0 for HTC Touch 3g please as i need to downgrade if from WM 6.1. Thanks in advance

syke-0 said:
Can anyone tell me where i can download windows mobile 6.0 for HTC Touch 3g please as i need to downgrade if from WM 6.1. Thanks in advance
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You might want to poke around in the kaiser section, I think the touch is the kaiser. Your in the hermes forum section.

syke-0 said:
Can anyone tell me where i can download windows mobile 6.0 for HTC Touch 3g please as i need to downgrade if from WM 6.1. Thanks in advance
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See this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=461

New to this. Need some help please!

My name is Kacy and i am new to the HTC world. Ive got a Tilt 2 that will be here today. I have always had a jailbroken iphone and thought i would try something different. Someone told me about flashing the rom on the tilt but I have no clue about these and was wondering if I could get alittle bit of help on here and ideas. Thanks

NIZLE144 said:
My name is Kacy and i am new to the HTC world. Ive got a Tilt 2 that will be here today. I have always had a jailbroken iphone and thought i would try something different. Someone told me about flashing the rom on the tilt but I have no clue about these and was wondering if I could get alittle bit of help on here and ideas. Thanks
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Search, search... this is a largest wm forum community in the world and you can find everything you want. Find Flashing for newbies, Flashing your first TPro2, etc., then, read v e r y carefully, post your questions after that and somebody will help. Welcome!

Start here: Flashing your First GSM Rhodium Rom (For Noobs)
Happy flashing!
Debbie

NIZLE144 said:
My name is Kacy and i am new to the HTC world. Ive got a Tilt 2 that will be here today. I have always had a jailbroken iphone and thought i would try something different. Someone told me about flashing the rom on the tilt but I have no clue about these and was wondering if I could get alittle bit of help on here and ideas. Thanks
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If you're going to be using the Tilt 2 some before flashing any other ROMs, there's a couple of things you'll want to do with right away, that will make a big difference in performance.
First, to improve overall memory management (and smooth running) of the stock ROM, run the 1st 2 cabs attached below, they'll adjust some memory settings that really should have been set up better from the factory.
(running a cab file is the manual method for installing apps and other tweaks...just copy any .cab file to your SD card on your phone, and run it from there to perform the install)
Next, the Tilt 2 is unique among all the TouchPro2 models, in that you're fortunate enough to have an app called Crud Scraper that will help remove most of the AT&T-supplied bloatware. It's in the zip file attached here, instructions are inside the zip.
Now, I'm not trying to talk you out of flashing a custom ROM....these will just make things a little more bearable until you do In fact, many of the aftermarket ROMs here already incorporate these tweaks, and trim that same type of fat, plus offer many many other options for making your phone just the way YOU like it

sirphunkee said:
If you're going to be using the Tilt 2 some before flashing any other ROMs, there's a couple of things you'll want to do with right away, that will make a big difference in performance.
First, to improve overall memory management (and smooth running) of the stock ROM, run the 1st 2 cabs attached below, they'll adjust some memory settings that really should have been set up better from the factory.
(running a cab file is the manual method for installing apps and other tweaks...just copy any .cab file to your SD card on your phone, and run it from there to perform the install)
Next, the Tilt 2 is unique among all the TouchPro2 models, in that you're fortunate enough to have an app called Crud Scraper that will help remove most of the AT&T-supplied bloatware. It's in the zip file attached here, instructions are inside the zip.
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i have a tilt2 also with stock rom...i ready don't want to flash my rom, but you mention that the tilt2 is unique, where do i find that crud scraper app at on my phone? (if its already installed by the factory)
thanks in advance....

apax said:
i have a tilt2 also with stock rom...i ready don't want to flash my rom, but you mention that the tilt2 is unique, where do i find that crud scraper app at on my phone? (if its already installed by the factory)
thanks in advance....
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It's not on the phone from the factory, it's an app created by XDA dev pyromosh (details in THIS thread), just for the Tilt 2...you can run it by downloading the .zip file I posted above ("HTC Tilt 2 for AT&T") and following the instructions inside.
I say the Tilt 2 is "unique" simply because it's the only TP2 version that Crud Scraper has been configured for.

When i try and open the crud scrapper file its telling me that i need to update my microsoft.net framware. Whats up with that?

you need .netCF 3.5. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en