Hi Guys,
Does the Touch Pro2 have a glass screen like (I think) the iPhone has? Or does it have the usual soft plastic digitizer like my TyTN 2?
I've always found the TyTN 2 touch accuracy to be truly awful (dialing any number usually takes a few attempts, and I don't have big fingers!). I was hoping for a better hardware solution to this. If the Pro2 does still have the plastic screen, does it actually work this time around?
Cheers!
Yeah, it does have the plastic screen as it is a resistive screen. Sure it is better than the TyTN 2, it has bigger screen and the buttons for the dialing are much better now.
It will leave the TyTN 2 in the dust
But, U should test it for yourself 'hands on' when available...
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Hi there,
I currently have an M3100 (Hermes) and the touch screen on it is great. I like to use my fingers so if I'm in tomtom I can push the buttons without really needing to worry about how I press the screen. (e.g. I normally just smudge it up with my no-fingernail fingers).
Work got a batch of Orbits in, but the screen is really really awful. It seems to be that the screen is very particular how you touch it in order for it to recognise it has been touched. I normally find myself turning my fingers round to try and use what little nail I have to just touch a small surface area to get it to work.
To be honest it is rubbish - and it's the same for anything.
Anyone any ideas how to reduce its sensitivity or if there is a new touch.dll that can be used?
Thanks a lot!
Dan
Well i'm still waiting mine to arrive, however a screen protector must remove a little of the sensitivity...
Having had a Hermes as my last phone, I personally dont have a problem with the Orbits touchscreen.
The screen protector that came with it from O2 was crap and I took it off. Too spongy and did not help at all with the "feel" of the touchscreen.
I had a Martin Fields protector on the Hermes and am awaiting delivery of one for the Orbit.
But just on its own it reacts fine, dont notice any difference between the Orbit and Hermes.
Just my view. Not everyone uses their phones the same way.
toibs said:
Well i'm still waiting mine to arrive, however a screen protector must remove a little of the sensitivity...
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I'm not using one unfortunately.. I wish I had an excuse for it's assness!
This is the 3rd HTC touchscreen phone I have owned and I have never experienced such phenomena...
However I have noticed that while in tomtom, I get the quickest responses when I tap with my finger backwards so the flat part (not the tip) of my finger nail makes contact with the screen.
My Orbit is my 5th HTC phone.....screen works fine....maybe you've got a duff phone??
It is inevitable that I will be getting one of these when ever it comes to ATT but I am wondering, is the touch screen any better than the kaiser? The only thing that I like about the iphone is the fact that the touch screen just seems to work much better as far as scrolling(not multi-touch).
Thanks in advance!
The touchscreen is much improved from the Touch Pro. I think this is as close as a resistive touchscreen can get to a
capacitive touchscreen the iPhone has. Only subtle pressure needed no navigate and press buttons.
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Check out my indepth-review of the Touch Pro2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjSbpFDhQ&feature=channel_page
I have a TD2 but in all honesty I bet the touch tech on the TP2 is the same. I thought the TD was nice and responsive. The TD2 is perfect. In My Honest Opinion it is way better than a capacitive screen like the iphone and ipod touch. Capacitive is way too sensitive and I always get wrong inaccurate presses on my ipod touch. Especially when I use my thumb. The resistive screen also allows you to type much faster seeing as you don't have to lift your thumbs all the way up.
With the TP2 though you have a hard keybaord so that wouldn't matter. But I type really quick on my TD2. Way faster than I ever could on my ipod touch. I say go for it when AT&T gets it.
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I have a TD2 but in all honesty I bet the touch tech on the TP2 is the same. I thought the TD was nice and responsive. The TD2 is perfect. In My Honest Opinion it is way better than a capacitive screen like the iphone and ipod touch. Capacitive is way too sensitive and I always get wrong inaccurate presses on my ipod touch. Especially when I use my thumb. The resistive screen also allows you to type much faster seeing as you don't have to lift your thumbs all the way up.
With the TP2 though you have a hard keybaord so that wouldn't matter. But I type really quick on my TD2. Way faster than I ever could on my ipod touch. I say go for it when AT&T gets it.
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awesome thanks! TP2 was my only option anyway, WM is so much better than the iPhone OS.
thedudelasse said:
The touchscreen is much improved from the Touch Pro. I think this is as close as a resistive touchscreen can get to a
capacitive touchscreen the iPhone has. Only subtle pressure needed no navigate and press buttons.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjSbpFDhQ&feature=channel_page
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I agree, its very nice
HTC Touch Freak said:
I have a TD2 but in all honesty I bet the touch tech on the TP2 is the same. I thought the TD was nice and responsive. The TD2 is perfect. In My Honest Opinion it is way better than a capacitive screen like the iphone and ipod touch. Capacitive is way too sensitive and I always get wrong inaccurate presses on my ipod touch. Especially when I use my thumb. The resistive screen also allows you to type much faster seeing as you don't have to lift your thumbs all the way up.
With the TP2 though you have a hard keybaord so that wouldn't matter. But I type really quick on my TD2. Way faster than I ever could on my ipod touch. I say go for it when AT&T gets it.
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Thats great to hear
I have a similar question... On my Kaiser (which now has a broken screen... again!) I found that (surprise!) the screen is too sensitive.
So here's my question: Is the screen structurally the same (i.e. a thin sheet of plastic over a finger-nail-thick LCD?
If so I might be very hesitant to buy one.
every review i've read online before i bought the unit was boasting about how "finger-friendly" the TP2 was, and that you could lightly swipe your finger across it to navigate the menu and that the touchscreen was very sensitive and whatnot
however after 2 weeks of use i find that to be relatively untrue. i've got to apply a fair amount of pressure on the screen to get it to register my input. of course, i'm posting this because i'm afraid that i might be damaging the screen in the process
i have no basis for comparison actually, my only 2 other touchscreen devices at home are an iphone and a cowon s9, both use capacitive screens. i always knew there was a big difference between capacitive screens and resistive screens, i just didn't know it was THIS huge. i can actually slide my finger lightly over the iphone's surface and its registered properly. the sliding probably feels smoother as its glass, but i can live with the TP2's plastic. what do you guys think ? should i get it checked out at the HTC store ?? its on the other side of town, don't wanna waste a trip as if its not a problem
oh yeah and just to get this out of the way, the screen is a membrane and not a hard surface right ?? everytime i press on the screen using my finger or the stylus, i can feel the screen slightly moving down, can also see the surface getting slightly dented at the point my finger pushes it if looking at it from a certain angle.
ps before somebody asks: i only got to test the keyboard at the telco store, some punk had cracked the screen of the display set, so i didn't know about this screen issue until i actually purchased the set
sorry for the long post, but i'd really appreciate any comments
TIA
Well, I don't have an Iphone so i can't tell you about how it compares with the TP2, however, i found the display to be much better than the one on my old XDA. It will probably never as good as a capacitive device like the touchpad on my laptop, but I found it to work very well. You have to apply a certain amount of pressue to the display, because it reacts on pressure, so I guess there is nothing wrong with that. I also see a small dent when I use the stylus and press the display. I cannot confirm the screen slightly going down when pressing it.
To summarize it, i use the Stylus 90% of the time. It glides much better on the display than my finger does so the overall experience is slightly better when using a stylus. Plus i don't get any greasy fingerprints on my display.
However the 10% I use my fingers to work on it (and 25% of that 10% is spent on polishing I found it to work pretty well, so in general I don't think that the reviews were off when it comes to finger usability.
What you are describing is probably normal. Resistive screens do require pressure. The TP2 tends to require less pressure than others, but nonetheless it does require it. There's no comparison if you compare it to a capacitive screen device because those don't require pressure at all.
The flexing of the screen that you described is something all resistive screens have. Again, if you compare the screen flex of the TP2 to earlier HTC devices, it's greatly improved.
To be on the safe side, go to a store and try out other resistive screen devices and see if you experience the same thing as your own. Then you'll know what is considered "normal".
thanks for the replies, i'll probably head down to my telco's store and see if they've replaced the display set then.
any other comments ??
You know I thought the same, waiting for a cab to increase the sensitivity because at the moment its quite annoying pressing buttons more than once...
From a few years to nowadays i´ve always used QTEK/HTC devices, my latest one is, ofcourse, HTC RHODIUM, the rom it has installed is RUU_Rhodium_HTC_PTG_1.19.410.0_Radio_Rhodium_3.44.25.27_Signed_Ship, and the screen is very sensitive and responsive, i´m just very pleased with it overall, it´s the best.
Cheers.
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You know I thought the same, waiting for a cab to increase the sensitivity because at the moment its quite annoying pressing buttons more than once...
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you don't need .cab
just change in registry...
HKLM/drivers/Touch Driver/pressurethreshold, (default=10000)
(I might not remember perfectly, but it's something like that)
try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469865
this might help just re align your screen again using little pressure then your screen will not need some much pressure to work.
I have found the this not only aligns the screen but the pressure as well.
mine I just have to lightly touch it and dont have to press very much at all.
Cheers
doos anyone experience a screen gap where the top layer is 1-2mm away from the resistive layer? creating a spoungy feeling. i had this on my last tp2 and had it replaced bit am looking for any crazy home made solutions for my newer one :s
There's no solution because this isn't a problem per se. It's a characteristic of all resistive touch screens.
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There's no solution because this isn't a problem per se. It's a characteristic of all resistive touch screens.
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fair comments, but its untrue imo.
both tp2's i have had have not had this when i first received them - they both felt like capacitive screens the 2 layers were so close. it is a problem that has developed over a few weeks.
With any resistive screen, you're going to be able to feel the screen flex, especially in areas farthest from the border. This is even more noticable with large screen devices like our TP2 and the Touch HD. There's no way around it. (Our screen is basically 2 thin layers one on top of the other. The screen registers a tap in the area where these 2 layers are pushed together)
That being said, the screen flex should be noticable but not so extreme that it feels uncomfortable to use. If it's unusable, you should return it.
I'm considering buying this phone especially for hiking and sometimes I need to use it when it is raining. I own a S5 that is waterproof, but as soon as the screen is a little wet, the phone becomes totally unresponsive.
Is the Active 7 still usable when there are drops on the screen or is all wet? As far as I know the Note 7 has that functionality, and I was wondering if it is the same with this phone.
Thanks.
Didn't work well for me
depends on how wet it is. Water interferes with the capacitive touch screen. If you want something that works well when wet, go for the Note 7. It doesn't use capacitive touch for the stylus, and you can disable the screen when the stylus hovers, so you can use it, even when submerged
In case of any potential buyers interested, I finally got the phone and it worked very well for me. I used it while it was slightly raining and my screen got drops everywhere but I could keep using the phone with no problems.
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Water interferes with the capacitive touch screen.
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That's true but when you "touch the screen" on the Galaxy S7 Active you're not touching the capacitive screen, you're touching the polycarbonate overlay which sits on top of the actual glass digitizer.
The Galaxy S7 Active is much better than previous Active models for use when the "display" is wet and the reason is because the polycarbonate overlay doesn't have the same issues when it's wet that the actual Gorilla Glass 4 which is under that overlay would have. That "plastic" (it's not really plastic but people call it that anyway) allows the GS7A to respond much better to touch controls than the previous Active models.
Test it yourself, put a few drops of water on it or dunk it in a bathtub and see for yourself, at least it does for me when I took mine swimming with me the other day for some testing. Was able to do most everything perfectly normally - I owned a GS4A years ago when it first came out and once that display got some water on it that was it - it just would not work at all until I removed it from being submerged.
That's the main reason the Active has the physical buttons and can take pictures or video using the Volume buttons, but the GS7A is a definite improvement for actual submerged use.
That polycarbonate overlay is more scratch-prone than the GG4 underneath it so, at least Samsung is planning to offer the replacement kits for sale at some point.