USB extension cable for the HTC 11 pin connector? - General Accessories

Hi all,
As per subject...
Anyone know if such as cable is available?
I was planning on getting the 3-1 Adaptor for the HTC to make use earphone and charging feature in my car.
http://www.amazon.fr/G-MOBILITY-Ada...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1242405945&sr=1-2
The thing is, the cable for this adaptor is very short and cannot be hidden easily when in the car. So, I was thinking of using an extension cable of some sort, so the adaptor could be more easily hidden elsewhere under the centre console.
there was already a similira question in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291501
with no answer
Many thanks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342606

tanks , sorry for not well searching .......

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HTC ExtUSB Extension Lead? Custom USB Leads?

Has anyone ever come across a male to female ExtUSB extension lead?
Google and ebay throughs up nothing. Perhaps someone knows of a company (UK ideally) that makes bespoke USB cables? I think I'm going out on a limb with this one.
First, I dont have any exact solution for your problem, but I'm wondering, why are you looking for that?
If you were to do an extension on the data cable, you can get yourself a standard USB extension lead, and have the data cable extended.
If you were to do an extention on the audio cable, you can get those extUSB-to-3.5/2.5mm audio-jack and get a standard audio cable/earphone for the job.
UPDATE: Ok, I see what you are trying to do in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342382
Can you elaborate the 3-in-1 thing you mentioned there? it is just a splitter/hub, which uses extUSB for all?
Great investigative work Hanmin. As you saw the objective is a car 'install' with one wire leading to the device (kaiser), and the 3-in-1 adtaper hidden away. So the extension needs to be about 1meter and carry the HTC ExtUSB spec of power and audio signal (hands free doesn't matter to me though).
In actual fact, a 3-in-1 adapter with a 20cm lead would be sufficient, but none of them seem to be longer than 5cm.
The extension can be found here. Or image attached.
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Anyone come up with an EXTUSB extension cable? I'd really like to have just one cable coming out of the phone when in the car, and keep the splitters tucked away neatly behind the dashboard.
wkearney99 said:
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Anyone come up with an EXTUSB extension cable? I'd really like to have just one cable coming out of the phone when in the car, and keep the splitters tucked away neatly behind the dashboard.
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See the first link in post#3... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293357
I just ordered two of them, but haven't received them yet. They emailed that they shipped from Honk Kong the next day. however!
Hope this might work for you!
***UPDATE*** I just received the cables today (1/4/08). Just what the doctor ordered! I use it with the Motorola Mini-USB "Y" adapter SKN6222A to power both my phone and a bluetooth GPS head from the same power plug. The extension lets me keep the phone mounted on a dash vent and the GPS on the top of the dashboard.
Posted in the thread linked above as to why that doesnt work for me, anyone come up with a way to extend the 11pin extusb? Im crap with a soldering iron, but if it comes to it...
Im in the exact same boat as the OP, have the 3 in 1 and it looks horrible with the 3 cables dangling out of it, want it hidden behind the dash.
Again, not exactly what you are looking for but maybe of use. The Brodit HTC Touch Pro Holder with 3-in-1 Adapter (http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=173938) is a mount with an included 15cm extUSB to 3 port adapter. Not sure if the 40cm cable is long enough, but it could be taken off of the mount i would think. A bit of a waste to have to buy a mount just to get a cable, but might be your best option.
I don't understand why no-one has made an extUSB extension cable or a longer extUSB to 3 port cable.
german company sells the plugs, so you could make your own cable...
wanna order a few and let us know how it turns out?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2973835
German custom usb cable assembly
foaf said:
Has anyone ever come across a male to female ExtUSB extension lead?
Google and ebay throughs up nothing. Perhaps someone knows of a company (UK ideally) that makes bespoke USB cables? I think I'm going out on a limb with this one.
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See posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2973835#post2973835
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3033031#post3033031
Hey all. I resell ProClip products and have been trying to help out some customers with solutions for their Hero in the car. Looks like no one has any stock solutions for a longer cable to create a cleaner install outside of buying one of these:
ww_w._proclipusa.com/image.aspx/media/images/products/devicecradle/843773.jpg-225x
(sorry. can't post links yet. how do I go about getting verified?)
and disassembling the cable. So who'd be interesting in buying that 15.75" cable separately? I'm working on getting them to sell the cable separately. That'll be the first solution for HTC owners. My second attempt is getting them to make an adjustable holder for HTC phones and see if they can make the height of the connector adjustable. Since they'll never make that kind of cradle for all HTC phones, at least they can cover all their bases with that type of cradle.
Let me know if anyone has interest, and I can keep you posted.
Ryan
i will be keen on the extension cable! I have the same problem as trying to hide the fm transmitter and also an adaptor (to charge the fmtalk & phone at the same time...) in the car.
extension cable
I would love to buy an extension cable

question for somone that has an evo (tv out)

ok quick question. i know the evo can output in hd via the micro hdmi cable, but researching it appears its limited to just a few forms of media (vids, pics, ect.)
my question for anyone who has a evo is: is there an option to output via the usb like the incredible? i have the cable already from my at&t fuse which suported tv out though usb.
i know this way would not be high def but at least i can see everything thats on my cell phone creen which would be handy in some situations.
if this is not available by defult is it possible the phone suports it nativly (as it is so similar to the incredible) and just a matter of installing an app/program from the incredible to the evo? (sorry if its a silly question but coming from windows mobile and the fuse it was just that easy installing the fm radio app)
thanks in advance!
streets1313 said:
ok quick question. i know the evo can output in hd via the micro hdmi cable, but researching it appears its limited to just a few forms of media (vids, pics, ect.)
my question for anyone who has a evo is: is there an option to output via the usb like the incredible? i have the cable already from my at&t fuse which suported tv out though usb.
i know this way would not be high def but at least i can see everything thats on my cell phone creen which would be handy in some situations.
if this is not available by defult is it possible the phone suports it nativly (as it is so similar to the incredible) and just a matter of installing an app/program from the incredible to the evo? (sorry if its a silly question but coming from windows mobile and the fuse it was just that easy installing the fm radio app)
thanks in advance!
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your cable won't work as the evo is micro usb. Not sure if the incredible cable would work though.
There is an app for winmo called mymobiler that allowed you to do what you are asking.
I'm gonna google to see if there is anything android wise that will do the same thing.
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Tenny said:
your cable won't work as the evo is micro usb. Not sure if the incredible cable would work though.
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sorry just assumed it was mini usb but at any rate ill just need a mini to micro adapter if its cheaper.
either way can the evo do vid out via usb like the incredible?
streets1313 said:
sorry just assumed it was mini usb but at any rate ill just need a mini to micro adapter if its cheaper.
either way can the evo do vid out via usb like the incredible?
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There's no way that headphone adapter will work with your EVO. The Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2, Diamonds, Fuzes, and anything in between do not have MiniUSB ports on the bottom. They are MiniUSB compatible, but they are very very proprietary. Look on the bottom of your Fuze or look at the adapter and you'll see something that is totally screwed up. The reason sound/video work coming out of that port is because it's HTC's ExtUSB port. It has (I think) 9 extra pins for sound/video. Soooo... you could try the Incredible's video cable, but you're SOL when it comes to the adapter for your Fuze.
Hope that clears it up a little.
|Jason8| said:
There's no way that headphone adapter will work with your EVO. The Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2, Diamonds, Fuzes, and anything in between do not have MiniUSB ports on the bottom. They are MiniUSB compatible, but they are very very proprietary. Look on the bottom of your Fuze or look at the adapter and you'll see something that is totally screwed up. The reason sound/video work coming out of that port is because it's HTC's ExtUSB port. It has (I think) 9 extra pins for sound/video. Soooo... you could try the Incredible's video cable, but you're SOL when it comes to the adapter for your Fuze.
Hope that clears it up a little.
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nope dosent. you see the fuze my have a proprietary port on the bottom of the device but you CAN plug in a mini usb plug (male) into it you can NOT plug your htc headphones (male plug) into a normal usb input (female port.)
i know i plug standard mini usb adapters in all the time for chrarging my fuze off of my laptop when no car charger or wall outlet is available.
i also know the tv out cable i have now is an off brand genaric usb to rca and it works just fine noextra pins in the mini usb jack.
i also know i have the mini usb to micro usb adapter for it.

Micro USB pinout?

I have googled for quite a while, and have not found the pinout on the microUSB port. I really want to know if there is any way to get analog output from that port like my old G1. It would be nice to have one port for charging and audio (for cars, docks, and boomboxes).
micro B
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...official&tbs=isch:1&ei=kdo4TPG8IsPbnAefsoycAw
elegantai said:
micro B
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...official&tbs=isch:1&ei=kdo4TPG8IsPbnAefsoycAw
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Thanks for that. But I wonder how that port will provide audio with something like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Micro-USB-3-5mm...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35a8ba858b
ok, I am just curious, but you dont want to use the audio output on the top of the phone just to have an all in one solution, correct? Because I have no clue what would happen hooking that adapter up, curious though.
It has to be built into the port as well as the software to control it. I've got my money on it not working, since it's not supported by the phone. HTC ditched the USB headphones a while back because everyone complained about having to use special headphones and adapters, hence why they all have standard headphone jacks now.
elegantai said:
ok, I am just curious, but you dont want to use the audio output on the top of the phone just to have an all in one solution, correct? Because I have no clue what would happen hooking that adapter up, curious though.
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Exactly. Having a dock or boombox that would be plug and play would be nice. I'm actually considering something for the car that would replace a head unit. Maybe there would be a way to snag the digital audio from the HDMI port? Digging continues.
Worse case scenario, I use the USB port for power and bluetooth the audio.
I dont think it is possible through hdmi without a digital to analog converter, which are rather expensive. The hdmi out is pure digital goodness.
elegantai said:
I dont think it is possible through hdmi without a digital to analog converter, which are rather expensive.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Audio-A...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ada7c5484
ORLY?
Lol, I guess for me 50 bucks is rather expensive to free up a wire. But to each his own
elegantai said:
Lol, I guess for me 50 bucks is rather expensive to free up a wire. But to each his own
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Have you seen what Apple charges for white cables? LOL! I think $50 works.
Lol, fair enough
HTC ExtUSB Micro?
I am looking for the same info.
Is the micro usb port on the evo just a standard 5 pin only?
The mini usb on the hero was the non-standard HTC ExtUSB with 11 pins. I loved this because I could make my own docks that included power and audio with only one plug.
Maybe the HTC micro b is analogous? HTC ExtUSB Micro?
I dont think so, it's only 5 pins. And I think the only reason HTC had the 11 pin was to provide the proper support for audio out. Since the evo has a 3.5 mm I dont think it is even possible to do that.
The Chris said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Audio-A...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ada7c5484
ORLY?
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And how exactly do you intend to convert the HDMI to a digital RCA or TOSLINKi nterface as that box requires? Oh, another $50+ box? Yeah, that's what I thought. So, $100 or a cable that looks "silly". I know where my money would go...
The Samsung Fascinate has this audio/usb option. Their docking station has a micro-usb plug and then a USB (power) jack and a standard audio jack out. So it doesn't require any special decoder, there must be audio out pins just like in the iPhone/iTouch?
Take a peek at this photo of an Evo's circuit board. Specifically, the solder points for the microUSB port (including the ground/anchor points):
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/22dlA5ZuptWCyvTX.huge (from http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC-Evo-4G-Teardown/2979/1 )
Count 'em. Eleven, just like extUSB on the Hero & other HTC phones. Looks like the Evo has what could legitimately be called a "HTC micro-extUSB" port, and not merely a standard "micro-USB" port.
Now... good luck trying to find a CABLE with all 11 contacts and wires on it. If it exists, Digikey probably has them... but god only knows where that needle might be in their million-part haystack (anyone who's ever tried finding a specific connector, even a common one, at digikey.com if you don't know its exact OEM part number knows the joy I'm describing...)
Chances are, there's a (~2.7v) serial UART sitting on two of those pins, too.
(update: found a few references to "Micro extUSB" with regard to the Desire, including http://windowsmobilesmartphone.forumcommunity.net/?t=39522724 )
bitbang3r said:
Take a peek at this photo of an Evo's circuit board. Specifically, the solder points for the microUSB port (including the ground/anchor points):
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Isn't that the HDMI connector?
hfarmer said:
Isn't that the HDMI connector?
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Nope. It's definitely the Micro USB connector. I know this is an old thread, but I've been trying to do some research on this port in hopes of hacking my own car dock.
I've found some additional information on this Micro ExtUSBâ„¢ port. The HTC Incredible uses it for its TV Out port. See this Thread on AndroidForums. There's even a special cable for the Incredible at HTCPedia. I'm very tempted to buy the cable to use it as a sort of breakout box to experiment with this port.
bitbang3r said:
Take a peek at this photo of an Evo's circuit board. Specifically, the solder points for the microUSB port (including the ground/anchor points):
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/22dlA5ZuptWCyvTX.huge (from http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC-Evo-4G-Teardown/2979/1 )
Count 'em. Eleven, just like extUSB on the Hero & other HTC phones. Looks like the Evo has what could legitimately be called a "HTC micro-extUSB" port, and not merely a standard "micro-USB" port.
Now... good luck trying to find a CABLE with all 11 contacts and wires on it. If it exists, Digikey probably has them... but god only knows where that needle might be in their million-part haystack (anyone who's ever tried finding a specific connector, even a common one, at digikey.com if you don't know its exact OEM part number knows the joy I'm describing...)
Chances are, there's a (~2.7v) serial UART sitting on two of those pins, too.
(update: found a few references to "Micro extUSB" with regard to the Desire, including http://windowsmobilesmartphone.forumcommunity.net/?t=39522724 )
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I believe your looking at the micro hdmi port, the usb is indeed 5 pins.
I'm pretty certain it's just a standard 5-pin MicroUSB port. Just shining a flashlight into the port, I only see 5 pins.
It would be really nice if there was a standard connector that supported power, USB, audio, and some sort of control bus. The Apple dock connector is a bit big, but it allows for a lot more than microUSB can do. Though I guess it could be done over USB if there was a standard for it.

[Q] USB to 3.5mm and Charge Y-Cable

Hi All
Does anyone know if you can get a micro usb to audio and charge y-cable for the HOX? Does the USB port support line audio out so i can charge and play audio through the same cable?
Thanks
DC
Hi
sorry to be a pain. Does anyone know of a solution to this?
ta
dave
Don't really get the point but none the less there is something like this on ebay... No offence intended but all I did was search google and ebay for "mhl usb audio" and that came up
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Galaxy-Sa...ltDomain_0&hash=item19cf699a26#ht_2671wt_1144
None taken. I also searched and found the same however this does not confirm whether or not the HOX actually supports charging and audio out from the same connector. As the listing doesn't list the HOX, I didn't want to assume it worked before purchasing.
Its for use in the car. Its a far more elegant solution than having a separate charger and 3.5mm cable hanging around the dashboard.
Thanks
Dave

can micro usb send audio out ?

For my in car solution, previously I used a brodit Active dock which you could plug an iphone cable into the bottom of, that cable I used previously for iphone was one iphone port in, but had an audio out as well as usb charge cable, so I was able to jack into my cars 3.5 Audio port and the other end into a usb cigarette port adapter, it was commonly referred to as a Y Cable.
I am looking to do similar from the Brodit Active HTC One X dock once its released, and ideally use one cable that plugs into the docks micro usb port (which the HTC One X plugs into in the dock).
So, a) does the micro usb port on the phone support sending the audio out ? and b) if so, does anyone know of a cable that will split out to an audio and usb end such as I described above..
Thanks for any help anyone can offer.
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Mart
to give some context, I used a cable like this one for the iphone and active brodit dock before..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Coope...s_Adapters&hash=item4d010007e2#ht_2628wt_1378
I cannot seem to find anything similar for micro usb.
mgdew said:
to give some context, I used a cable like this one for the iphone and active brodit dock before..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Coope...s_Adapters&hash=item4d010007e2#ht_2628wt_1378
I cannot seem to find anything similar for micro usb.
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It should be able to
http://www.expansys.com/expansys-usb-cradle-with-hdmi-out-for-htc-one-x-231980/
The USB does HDMI which carries audio. Someone with more knowledge will be along soon I imagine though, they'll be able to point you where you need to be!
thanks for the hdmi headsup.
Anyone else able to offer a solution ?
HDMI is digital though, so to use with a standard 3.5mm Aux you will need a digital to analogue converter. Assuming it cant switch to analogue... its a bit up in the air at the moment, need to wait for a few devices to hit the shops :/
All you need is-
Micro Sd to car adaptor for power.
3.5 jack to 3.5 from phone to stereos aux in.
You can call, use sat nav whilst listening to music.
Will mute music for ditections, phone call whateva!
You can also make a cable and connect them to the pins on the back that are used for a dock.
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Thanks for the replies. I already have two separate cables wires in for aux and for usb, but I wanted to try and have only one cable so I could literally attach one and not have to plug both in and out, hence the year cable idea of
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I just use bluetooth
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