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I've bought one of the adaptors to allow normal headphones to be plugged into my XDA Orbit. What I'd like to do is plug a mini USB extension into the XDA then on the other end plug the adaptor in. Ideally it would be 2m long and obviously be male - female. The main reason is that my adaptor lets me charge my XDA up aswell and I don't want lots of cables in front of me. So i'll plug the extension in and run it into my glove compartment, were I'll plug in my fm transmitter and car charger.
Hope this makes sense, i've spent ages googling to try and find one but i've had no luck, any ideas?
I was also searching for one of these and failed. Post back here if you succeed.
Mini-USB extension cable
I found a single source at
http://www.pc-mobile.net/gugf.htm. It's item number CMUE about half way down the page.
I also found some folks who seem to be prepared to make almost anything at http://www.cypressindustries.com/contact/index.html
Best regards,
Steve
3 in 1 USB Adapter HTC TyTn P3300
There is such interesting device:
HTC 3-in-1 USB Adapter
Features:
11pins to 11pins HTC adapter, with USB port and 3.5mm Stereo Head Jack, you can connect to your own headphone or amplifier for audio and the USB port, you are able to charge the device via USB cable at the same time.
Support :
HTC P4350/HTC Herald/Dopod C800/Dopod C858
HTC Trinity/HTC P3600/Qtek P3600/Orange SPV M700/Dopod D810/Dopod CHT9100
O2 XDA Orbit/HTC P3300/HTC Artemis/Qtek G200/Dopod P800W/Dopod M700/T-Mobile MDA Compact III/Orange SPV M650
O2 Xda Cosmo/HTC Excalibur/HTC S620/T-Mobile Dash/Dopod C720W
HTC S310/HTC Oxygen/Orange SPV C100/Qtek 7200
O2 XDA Trion/MDA Vario II/Cingular 8525/i-mate JASJAM/Qtek 9600/HTC TyTN/Dopod CHT9000/Orange SPV M3100/Vodafone 1605/Dopod 838Pro
HTC MTeoR/HTC Breeze/Dopod 595/Qtek 8600
Of course I can not say if it's working flawlesly with all listed devices, but with my HTC P3300 (Artemis) it works great.
I received one extra adapter as a present, so if you are in the Netherlands and interested to have it, I can sell my second adapter for 10 EUR. Please PM me with the suggestions and offers.
Mini USB extension cable
I had the same problems finding a mini usb extension. Then e-bay came to the rescue! This guy
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/techno_toys/
has just what you need, a 1m long mini usb extension cable for less than £10.00 !
Cheaper and faster than waiting for it to arrive from Hong-Kong
Bill Kelly
Thanks all, google a mini usb extender and this was the first thing that came up. Can't believe these cables are so rare!
FYI my supplier was Keven from Techno Toys on ebay UK http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZtechno_toys
those links you posted don't have USB mini female to USB mini male.
I only need it to be 3 inches.
also, would that 3 in 1 work for my wizard?
Thanks!
Ray_jai said:
those links you posted don't have USB mini female to USB mini male.
I only need it to be 3 inches. Also, would that 3 in 1 work for my wizard?
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This is a link to the current listing (as of 11 Feb 08):
mini usb extansion cable on e-bay
3 were listed, but 2 have already gone. They are 1.2m long too, not the 30cm that you need, but maybe you can cut/re-solder it? They are pretty rare though, so not sure I would risk it!
plinkykev said:
This is a link to the current listing (as of 11 Feb 08):
mini usb extansion cable on e-bay
3 were listed, but 2 have already gone. They are 1.2m long too, not the 30cm that you need, but maybe you can cut/re-solder it? They are pretty rare though, so not sure I would risk it!
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These wont carry the audio though. They are only 5 pin and carry data only. Ive got one of these cables and the 3 in 1 adaptor. The adaptor is extusb and has 11 pins, and this cable is regular usb with only 5 pins. Not only that, they dont actually fit together as a male extusb is a slightly different shape to the female regular miniusb. Obviously Female Extusb to male miniusb would work, but this cable is the wrong way round for that.
made my own
I was also looking for one to use in my car. Couldn't find any so I made one. Used a vga cable, cut the htc usb charger/2.5 headphone splitter that came with my touch, and soldered the cables together. I'll post pics tomorrow if i get a chance. Btw, i got lucky, because while trying to solder one of the last cables, the yellow cable that connects to the end of the 2.5 headphone jack came off. Luckily, it wasn't the cable that was for left or right channel.
I couldnt find an 11 core cable small enough to look good. VGA cable isnt too thick though... tempting.
pics of htc supplied usb to usb/2.5 extended
Nice, I wish i had soldering skills. everytime i try to solder, the solder never bonds.
I tried heating up the wirers, but the solder always bonds to the tip or combine with the solder coil again.
Schooleydoo said:
These wont carry the audio though. They are only 5 pin and carry data only. Ive got one of these cables and the 3 in 1 adaptor. The adaptor is extusb and has 11 pins, and this cable is regular usb with only 5 pins.
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OK, sorry, I had used it OK with my Motorola phone, and that did the audio OK. Didn't realise there were more pins in the PDA cable.
11 pin extension cable
how many wires are needed for power and Stereo?
I am Guessing 1 for right, 1 for left, 1 for Power, and for ground. I am asking because I want to make my own, but I do not want a big diameter cable.
I have the 3 in 1 splitter, so it has everything I need except for length. Is a 4 wire cable all it really needs?
Anyone?...
Here is another source for Mini USB Extension
Man are these cables ever hard to find. I have been looking for such a cable for a long time since I recently found this other guy on ebay. He has 2m (6ft) and 3m (9ft) versions, all USB 2.0 compatible: kabelbaron on ebay I think he ships worldwide, too...
(I think you can also get to his recent items through http://www.kabelbaron.de).
Eggbert said:
I have been looking for such a cable for a long time since I recently found this other guy on ebay. He has...
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They look like standard 5 pin extensions to me.
People in this thread are looking for extUSB extenders that have 11pins.
Ray_jai said:
Nice, I wish i had soldering skills. everytime i try to solder, the solder never bonds.
I tried heating up the wirers, but the solder always bonds to the tip or combine with the solder coil again.
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What works for me is to melt a tiny bit of solder on the tip, then touch that melted solder to the wires. It will transfer heat to the wires and you can add more solder from another angle. Wipe the tip on a wet sponge after every use. This leaves a thin layer of clean solder on the tip. If you let the tip go uncleaned for too long it turns totally black and conducts heat poorly. If you buy tip cleaner you can sometimes get the black off.
Also, if you have tiny things to connect and little space to work, put a bit of solder on both things first, then touch them together and the heat will transfer into both of them, melting them together. Keeping them steady after you pull the tip away is key to a strong join. If they're trying to pull apart as the solder cools, the solder will look more dull than shiny and be easy to break.
Also, be absolutely sure you get 63/37 (63% tin, 37% lead) solder instead of lead-free because lead-free doesn't melt till a much higher temperature and that's more likely to damage your electronics. Also, I could barely melt the lead-free solder with three different irons I tried and it was very hard to make it bond to things.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder for more.
[email protected] said:
how many wires are needed for power and Stereo?
I am Guessing 1 for right, 1 for left, 1 for Power, and for ground. I am asking because I want to make my own, but I do not want a big diameter cable.
I have the 3 in 1 splitter, so it has everything I need except for length. Is a 4 wire cable all it really needs?
Anyone?...
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USB power uses a +5V and ground pin on the top row.
Audio uses 3 more pins along the bottom: left, right, and audio ground. There's also two mic pins along the bottom you might want to tap into.
See http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ExtUSB
I found a good source for mini usb extensions of all kinds. This site really was the best site for USB and Firewire cables. I got mine today.
Edited: This cables are 5pin, just for data and power not for audio.
http://www.usbfirewire.com/
someone from the UK want to please order one and check it out before I battle language barriers and international shipping to the US? I want to build a custom cable for my car.
http://translate.google.com/transla...cker/index_usb.htm&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en
or, if you speak german,
http://www.handy-datenkabel.de/
a window will popup about the extUSB connectors, or you can just go here:
http://www.handy-datenkabel.de/deutsch/produkte/datenstecker/index_usb.htm
Is shipping to U.S. an available option?
classybum said:
someone from the UK want to please order one and check it out before I battle language barriers and international shipping to the US?
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I just had a look at the website, and it is not at all certain that they will ship to the U.S. anyway. Only shipping and payment options to Germany and Europe are specified. Perhaps your [eventual] European purchase partner will be willing to buy on your behalf and forward the item to the U.S.
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ADDED: It appears that one is not offered the choice of a USB connectors on the other end of the data cable: If you select the 11-pin Mini-B Male plug, the other connector will be the corresponding Mini-B Female (thus, an extension cable).
valky said:
I just had a look at the website, and it is not at all certain that they will ship to the U.S. anyway. Only shipping and payment options to Germany and Europe are specified. Perhaps your [eventual] European purchase partner will be willing to buy on your behalf and forward the item to the U.S.
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ADDED: It appears that one is not offered the choice of a USB connectors on the other end of the data cable: If you select the 11-pin Mini-B Male plug, the other connector will be the corresponding Mini-B Female (thus, an extension cable).
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Found a US company here http://www.podgizmo.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=29
if anyone ever figures out how to build one of these, let me know and i'll buy one from you (preferably a 3' female to male ExtUSB cable)
hi there!
Did you already get the connector? if you still need it, i can order it for you an ship it to the US.
The Store sells just the connector without anything soldered to it but that plastic part holding the Wires in place is also included.
So you can easily solder the wires to the pins.
Yours
Wiechers_s
well i'd also need a female connector and I don't see that on there
elenaran said:
well i'd also need a female connector and I don't see that on there
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If you were game you could desolder the cable that's already on the 3in1 and solder a new longer cable to the HTC plug. I think that's what I might end up doing if I can get a hold of one of these socket.
There are a couple of alternatives ... you could buy a couple of HTC OEM cables hack one to find out the cable colours to the soldered points on the PCB board cut the big USB end off of the other cable and solder the cable to the appropriate points or you could find another 11 core cable, desolder the cable from the PCB and resolder the new cable in between the board and the old cable. It'll look a little messy at the join though.
you can get them all from here
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendminib.html
scousemartin said:
you can get them all from here
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendminib.html
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Where?
None of them are extUSB!
is this it? http://www.wisebuynow.com/cart/index.php?target=products&product_id=29865
Nope - not even close!
extUSB is a proprietary connector made by HTC.
The 'ext' you have found is just an abbreviation for 'extension' used by that web site. What's more it's not even mini USB let alone extUSB.
ExtUSB Breakout Connector - USA
Suggest this web site as best source I've yet found for a solderable ExtUSB connector:
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9167
Still no signs of the corresponding line socket needed for a 'straightforward' extension lead, but with this connector, it would at least be possible to make up a suitable umbilical with appropriate connections hard wired at the other end tucked out of sight.
They also have a surface mount mini USB B socket which could be used for a data extension.
Add'n:
This is a ready made lead that also has possibilities...
http://www.podgizmo.com/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=31
Regards,
Kevin
Job offer: Create HTC 3-1 connector with long lead
Hi everyone..
I'm also diving into the entire extUSB thing... I have my tytnII installed on my motorbike, and want to connect all the leads in a tidy fashin... If i could do this with just a single wire leading to the phone and every else tucked under the seat that would be great..
Problem.. i'm not very skilled at soldering, or finding the right cables..
This would involve having either somebody creating a 3ft (1m) extension cable for extUSB connectors, or somebody soldering on such a cable on to an existing HTC multifunction connector (they are way better then the older 3 in 1: HTC Multifunction Audio Cable YC-A300)
http://www.pdashop.nl/product/57427/45045/3361/htc-multifunction-audio-cable-yc-a300.html
Anybody willing to take up this task? Downpayment of course available (paypal preferably) (PM me)
Cheers
Bjorn
Any news in the subject?
I'd also love to have an extension cable.
Or the perfect solution for me would be to have this YC-A300 with simply longer cable (1-1.5 m). If someone could make a few I'm sure there would be many people willing to buy one (me included)
I have googled for quite a while, and have not found the pinout on the microUSB port. I really want to know if there is any way to get analog output from that port like my old G1. It would be nice to have one port for charging and audio (for cars, docks, and boomboxes).
micro B
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...official&tbs=isch:1&ei=kdo4TPG8IsPbnAefsoycAw
elegantai said:
micro B
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...official&tbs=isch:1&ei=kdo4TPG8IsPbnAefsoycAw
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Thanks for that. But I wonder how that port will provide audio with something like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Micro-USB-3-5mm...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35a8ba858b
ok, I am just curious, but you dont want to use the audio output on the top of the phone just to have an all in one solution, correct? Because I have no clue what would happen hooking that adapter up, curious though.
It has to be built into the port as well as the software to control it. I've got my money on it not working, since it's not supported by the phone. HTC ditched the USB headphones a while back because everyone complained about having to use special headphones and adapters, hence why they all have standard headphone jacks now.
elegantai said:
ok, I am just curious, but you dont want to use the audio output on the top of the phone just to have an all in one solution, correct? Because I have no clue what would happen hooking that adapter up, curious though.
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Exactly. Having a dock or boombox that would be plug and play would be nice. I'm actually considering something for the car that would replace a head unit. Maybe there would be a way to snag the digital audio from the HDMI port? Digging continues.
Worse case scenario, I use the USB port for power and bluetooth the audio.
I dont think it is possible through hdmi without a digital to analog converter, which are rather expensive. The hdmi out is pure digital goodness.
elegantai said:
I dont think it is possible through hdmi without a digital to analog converter, which are rather expensive.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Audio-A...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ada7c5484
ORLY?
Lol, I guess for me 50 bucks is rather expensive to free up a wire. But to each his own
elegantai said:
Lol, I guess for me 50 bucks is rather expensive to free up a wire. But to each his own
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Have you seen what Apple charges for white cables? LOL! I think $50 works.
Lol, fair enough
HTC ExtUSB Micro?
I am looking for the same info.
Is the micro usb port on the evo just a standard 5 pin only?
The mini usb on the hero was the non-standard HTC ExtUSB with 11 pins. I loved this because I could make my own docks that included power and audio with only one plug.
Maybe the HTC micro b is analogous? HTC ExtUSB Micro?
I dont think so, it's only 5 pins. And I think the only reason HTC had the 11 pin was to provide the proper support for audio out. Since the evo has a 3.5 mm I dont think it is even possible to do that.
The Chris said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Audio-A...tem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ada7c5484
ORLY?
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And how exactly do you intend to convert the HDMI to a digital RCA or TOSLINKi nterface as that box requires? Oh, another $50+ box? Yeah, that's what I thought. So, $100 or a cable that looks "silly". I know where my money would go...
The Samsung Fascinate has this audio/usb option. Their docking station has a micro-usb plug and then a USB (power) jack and a standard audio jack out. So it doesn't require any special decoder, there must be audio out pins just like in the iPhone/iTouch?
Take a peek at this photo of an Evo's circuit board. Specifically, the solder points for the microUSB port (including the ground/anchor points):
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/22dlA5ZuptWCyvTX.huge (from http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC-Evo-4G-Teardown/2979/1 )
Count 'em. Eleven, just like extUSB on the Hero & other HTC phones. Looks like the Evo has what could legitimately be called a "HTC micro-extUSB" port, and not merely a standard "micro-USB" port.
Now... good luck trying to find a CABLE with all 11 contacts and wires on it. If it exists, Digikey probably has them... but god only knows where that needle might be in their million-part haystack (anyone who's ever tried finding a specific connector, even a common one, at digikey.com if you don't know its exact OEM part number knows the joy I'm describing...)
Chances are, there's a (~2.7v) serial UART sitting on two of those pins, too.
(update: found a few references to "Micro extUSB" with regard to the Desire, including http://windowsmobilesmartphone.forumcommunity.net/?t=39522724 )
bitbang3r said:
Take a peek at this photo of an Evo's circuit board. Specifically, the solder points for the microUSB port (including the ground/anchor points):
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Isn't that the HDMI connector?
hfarmer said:
Isn't that the HDMI connector?
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Nope. It's definitely the Micro USB connector. I know this is an old thread, but I've been trying to do some research on this port in hopes of hacking my own car dock.
I've found some additional information on this Micro ExtUSB™ port. The HTC Incredible uses it for its TV Out port. See this Thread on AndroidForums. There's even a special cable for the Incredible at HTCPedia. I'm very tempted to buy the cable to use it as a sort of breakout box to experiment with this port.
bitbang3r said:
Take a peek at this photo of an Evo's circuit board. Specifically, the solder points for the microUSB port (including the ground/anchor points):
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/22dlA5ZuptWCyvTX.huge (from http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC-Evo-4G-Teardown/2979/1 )
Count 'em. Eleven, just like extUSB on the Hero & other HTC phones. Looks like the Evo has what could legitimately be called a "HTC micro-extUSB" port, and not merely a standard "micro-USB" port.
Now... good luck trying to find a CABLE with all 11 contacts and wires on it. If it exists, Digikey probably has them... but god only knows where that needle might be in their million-part haystack (anyone who's ever tried finding a specific connector, even a common one, at digikey.com if you don't know its exact OEM part number knows the joy I'm describing...)
Chances are, there's a (~2.7v) serial UART sitting on two of those pins, too.
(update: found a few references to "Micro extUSB" with regard to the Desire, including http://windowsmobilesmartphone.forumcommunity.net/?t=39522724 )
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I believe your looking at the micro hdmi port, the usb is indeed 5 pins.
I'm pretty certain it's just a standard 5-pin MicroUSB port. Just shining a flashlight into the port, I only see 5 pins.
It would be really nice if there was a standard connector that supported power, USB, audio, and some sort of control bus. The Apple dock connector is a bit big, but it allows for a lot more than microUSB can do. Though I guess it could be done over USB if there was a standard for it.
I bought these on ebay. The HDMI is short but worked but when I connect both cables to lapdock, the USB is not being recognized so the keyboard/mouse is not working. I want this just to act as an extension so I can use full lapdock abilities with cables. Any idea what's going on (cable charges on plug but does not charge on lapdock)? Maybe someone has better usb cables.
fixed the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010
links appear to be broken...
From your title I've been looking for these (or similar) cables for a long time and have been unsuccessful. However I have yet to try them.
Fixed the link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010
i don't think it will work either way, tried a few things like this with no avail.
why wouldn't they? Cheap build quality that doesn't include the data wires? Hell I'll be willing to splice two cables together to get our desired effect, the only problem is that cords with a female micro usb are incredibly hard to come by
So that is what you think it is? No data on the usb cables.
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So that is what you think it is? No data on the usb cables.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
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the only reason that is my suspicion is because there are many "charging" products out there that don't really need data. Why there would be a need for such a small charging extension cable is beyond me, but it's the only solution I can think of, but I have no way of confirming or denying it either. The ebay descriptions seem to imply that the data wires are there, but we all know how reliable ebay can be...
Another idea I had was that it might be sensing the resistance in the cable, since, if I remember correctly, that was how some think/though the car dock puts the atrix into car mode without a magnet as is/was commonly used. Again these are just ideas.
Or the cable is just so poorly made that it's defective...I honestly have no clue
Has anyone got full lapdock capabilities using extension cables? I can only get the screen working and not the mouse and keyboard.
The HDMI extender was the hard one to find. There are other micro USB extenders out there, theoretically with all wires connected....
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendmicrob.html
Kind of makes me wish i hadn't hacked up my lapdock to work with the Otterbox
Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
mamoranto said:
Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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If you're asking me, i didn't. I was referring to the ebay link in the third post.
grevedan said:
The HDMI extender was the hard one to find. There are other micro USB extenders out there, theoretically with all wires connected....
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendmicrob.html
Kind of makes me wish i hadn't hacked up my webtop to work with the Otterbox
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before I read that post, I was looking around the forums and the web yesterday well into the night. here are some of the things I've found that might be relevant to everyone (and it might possibly be cheaper, though more diy).
Micro USB stuff:
I have no idea why this exists http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-...r-cable-for-blackberry-9900-black-30cm-107901
I have no idea why this only has 4 pins http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9614
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10031
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Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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Here's what I am thinking about doing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140626354628#ht_2821wt_1177 or http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-HDMI-...ultDomain_0&hash=item415eac6dc0#ht_2821wt_980
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Female-M...YPB4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1329854686&sr=8-2
then the hdmi cable that came with our phone:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Stan...QTA8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1329854856&sr=8-8
The HDMI certainly looks like it may work but the reason I didn't buy that product from ebay a few weeks ago was because it was $50. Now miraculously, it's only $6. Maybe I'll get that if the USB cable I just bought that was suggested works a few posts back.
misiek93 said:
why wouldn't they? Cheap build quality that doesn't include the data wires? Hell I'll be willing to splice two cables together to get our desired effect, the only problem is that cords with a female micro usb are incredibly hard to come by
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This micro usb extension cord explicitly states that all 5 wires are connected (compatible with droid bionic for the purpose of docking with a case on the phone):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-E...395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335d13272b
I bought the HDMI extension cable and the USB cable above. I have a lapdock so I'll post if it works.
everything asked/answered in here is already covered in the original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679
robrj said:
This micro usb extension cord explicitly states that all 5 wires are connected (compatible with droid bionic for the purpose of docking with a case on the phone):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-E...395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335d13272b
I bought the HDMI extension cable and the USB cable above. I have a lapdock so I'll post if it works.
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The HDMI cable seems to work. On the lapdock, with just the HDMI cable hooked up, it functions like it was it's an entertainment center.
The USB cord will need to be modified a little bit. I can't get it to seat right on the USB jack of the dock. I'll need to shave it down a bit as it doesn't sit down snugly.
robrj said:
The HDMI cable seems to work. On the lapdock, with just the HDMI cable hooked up, it functions like it was it's an entertainment center.
The USB cord will need to be modified a little bit. I can't get it to seat right on the USB jack of the dock. I'll need to shave it down a bit as it doesn't sit down snugly.
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I ordered the USB cable and experience this same problem, though I am waiting for my hdmi parts to come in (by April 6th I should have all my parts...). The cable itself works flawlessly as a micro usb extension cable when connecting it to the computer.
again as mentioned in the other thread, you want to be careful with the 5v coming out that micro hdmi port. for connecting back to your phone would be no issue, as the phone charges using this voltage, but hooking the lapdocks micro usb up to a host device probably wont appreciate the 5v coming back up the cable, where normally the usb device would be pulling power from said host, not providing it.
one suggestion is to just clip the red wire inside your micro usb cable/adapter.
btw the adapters i use do fit snugly side by side, without modification.
I've been following this thread for a little while now, and I wanted to share something I found.
I was looking at the Motorola Travel Webtop adapter. And I was curious to see whether it could be tweaked to suite our needs. I naively thought/hoped that I could flip the connectors in the device to make a small adapter to connect the Atrix to newer Lapdocks. Unfortunately as you can see in the pictures below (sorry not enough posts to link to the pictures) the two connectors are connected via a PCB not wires or a ribbon cable. Although I still have high hopes that I can de-solder the HDMI and USB connectors, and use a small length of flat ribbon cable to connect them and then re-positions the connectors in the case, to build a micro adapter to use the Atrix on the newer Lapdocks. Should this fail this will at least prevent others from making the same mistake, and solve the mystery of what's really inside the Webtop Travel adapter.
Do any one know if this Micro HDMI Cable would work for Lapdock.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Feet-HDMI...s_Adapters&hash=item416612cecb#ht_1149wt_1187
Description says for Asus tf201 MEMO ME171.
I believe all Cables are standard. Can this used to Atrix 4g with Lapdock?
I have otterbox case for Atrix and don't want to Remove cover everytime to plug in Lapdock.
OK, I am about to make the switch from iPhone to SGS3 as soon as they become available in the US.
My main concern right now is getting the audio to play through my current truck stereo deck (JVC KD-DV6200). Right now, I am using the Apple AV adapter that goes from the dock connector to composite (Red/white/yellow) and USB. This way, the phone charges while playing my tunes.
What are my options for keeping this same functionality. I want to be able to go from the microUSB to the composite (red/white) ports of the deck and also be able to charge the phone at the same time.
I am wanting to stay away from using the headphone jack as this usually results in some sort of hissing or humming interference.
I appreciate any info you can give. I'm simply trying to compile info so I can have things together when I finally jump ship.
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You can get HDMI, VGA and DVI MHL adapters but not composite, and the S3 uses a new type of MHL cable so for now i think you can only find HDMI.
Other option would be to build your own cable, for more information check following links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395173&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275
Is it because this is such a new device that it is hard to find such a cable?
I have been very excited about dumping my iDevice and going Google but I must admit that this worries me somewhat. To me, a cable like this should be a basic accessory and should be readily available. Maybe I just got spoiled to that Apple AV cable.
I'm not trying to start a rant or anything, nor am I trying to dog android or apple. I'm just hoping that I missed something and that it will show up.
I'm still excited and anxious about trimming that apple tree.
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Not to point out the obvious... but a single cable will not accomplish that. The micro USB is a digital port, not an analog port like the RCA jack inputs are on your stereo. So in order to convert the audio from the usb on the phone, it will need to go through a converter box to convert the signal.
You're pretty much better off just doing the headphone jack even though you dont want to. You could upgrade your stereo to one that does bluetooth streaming for cheaper than it would cost to get a converter.
Something like this *might* work... but I cannot guarantee it
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-REC2PC-Stereo-RCA-Cable/dp/B003R7KSYG
You would just need a standard USB to Micro USB adapter and hope it works.
coreyzw said:
Not to point out the obvious... but a single cable will not accomplish that. The micro USB is a digital port, not an analog port like the RCA jack inputs are on your stereo. So in order to convert the audio from the usb on the phone, it will need to go through a converter box to convert the signal.
You're pretty much better off just doing the headphone jack even though you dont want to. You could upgrade your stereo to one that does bluetooth streaming for cheaper than it would cost to get a converter.
Something like this *might* work... but I cannot guarantee it
http://www.amazon.com/Audio-REC2PC-Stereo-RCA-Cable/dp/B003R7KSYG
You would just need a standard USB to Micro USB adapter and hope it works.
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Uh, apparently, it will. Granted, I don't know if it works w/ the GS3 (who knows what they flipped given the whole MHL adapter fiasco) but my guess is this is all generic android. Looking at the links posted above, it is possible to make a cable that will put the phone into home/car dock mode using resistors where the audio is then output via usb. I guess the sound isn't amplified so it sounds crummy w/o an amplifier, but if it's going out to a car preamp, it should be fine. When you think about it, this is how the docks work, sans the actual dock. I'm going to try to make this cable later as it doesn't look too hard.
I'm kinda sick of having to plug in two cables (w/ the GS3, it's one on top and one on the bottom which would be very awkward) and was debating whether to pursue a bluetooth solution, but this would work nicely.
This may not be the most attractive solution, but you can simply charge the phone with a car lighter plug and output the music through the headphone jack to the RCA cables. That type of cable certainly exists.
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Uh, apparently, it will. Granted, I don't know if it works w/ the GS3 (who knows what they flipped given the whole MHL adapter fiasco) but my guess is this is all generic android. Looking at the links posted above, it is possible to make a cable that will put the phone into home/car dock mode using resistors where the audio is then output via usb. I guess the sound isn't amplified so it sounds crummy w/o an amplifier, but if it's going out to a car preamp, it should be fine. When you think about it, this is how the docks work, sans the actual dock. I'm going to try to make this cable later as it doesn't look too hard.
I'm kinda sick of having to plug in two cables (w/ the GS3, it's one on top and one on the bottom which would be very awkward) and was debating whether to pursue a bluetooth solution, but this would work nicely.
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**** it... good luck
wouldn't the desktop dock work? Just mount that or put that somewhere in your truck, get a 3.5mm to rca cable, use cigarette lighter charger, then plug both the charger and 3.5mm into the back of the dock and then all you have to do is set your phone on that every time and you're good to go...
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wouldn't the desktop dock work? Just mount that or put that somewhere in your truck, get a 3.5mm to rca cable, use cigarette lighter charger, then plug both the charger and 3.5mm into the back of the dock and then all you have to do is set your phone on that every time and you're good to go...
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This is what I suggested above but with the dock is a much cleaner solution.
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wouldn't the desktop dock work? Just mount that or put that somewhere in your truck, get a 3.5mm to rca cable, use cigarette lighter charger, then plug both the charger and 3.5mm into the back of the dock and then all you have to do is set your phone on that every time and you're good to go...
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That is one strong possibility. The only problem I foresee is how the dock will work with the phone if it is in a case. I have always kept my phones in an Otterbox defender case, and you know how hard it is to find a dock that will hold this much less lock into a usb port too. I may have to look into getting a different case that can come off easy.
Then again, maybe I will have to check into making my own cable. Most of the cable will be tucked into the dash somewhere so the aesthetics are not that important.
Will have to start doing some searching on pinouts and designs soon.
the_buzz_man
the_buzz_man said:
That is one strong possibility. The only problem I foresee is how the dock will work with the phone if it is in a case. I have always kept my phones in an Otterbox defender case, and you know how hard it is to find a dock that will hold this much less lock into a usb port too. I may have to look into getting a different case that can come off easy.
Then again, maybe I will have to check into making my own cable. Most of the cable will be tucked into the dash somewhere so the aesthetics are not that important.
Will have to start doing some searching on pinouts and designs soon.
the_buzz_man
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There's a diagram in the post above. Essentially, the 365k resister on the ID pin launches it into dock mode, one is ground, one is to charge, and the other are left and right out. It doesn't look at all complicated. I'm going to make one later to see if it will work with my vibrant. Once I get my S3, hopefully it will still work. Then there's just the matter of making it look non-ghetto. You'd want to avoid electrical tape because the adhesive will probably melt in the car.
From reading those posts, it doesn't seem like it would be difficult at all to make this cable/adapter. Now, with the change they made to the MHL to HDMI adapter, I wonder if it changes the pinouts and the needed resistors for the S3.
I will be patiently awaiting some input/feedback from S3 owners that attempt this.
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the_buzz_man said:
That is one strong possibility. The only problem I foresee is how the dock will work with the phone if it is in a case. I have always kept my phones in an Otterbox defender case, and you know how hard it is to find a dock that will hold this much less lock into a usb port too. I may have to look into getting a different case that can come off easy.
Then again, maybe I will have to check into making my own cable. Most of the cable will be tucked into the dash somewhere so the aesthetics are not that important.
Will have to start doing some searching on pinouts and designs soon.
the_buzz_man
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You could always get a microusb extension but then that dock would have to be hidden somewhere or something.
I'm trying to do something similar to this and was wondering if anyone had come across a similar issue. Please bear with me, and forgive my primitive artwork. Number 10 below poses my real question. Here's my setup, and some commentary.
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1) The Samsung EPL-3FHU adapter for Galaxy S3. Has 11-pin MHL input from phone, 5-pin micro-USB input from charger, and HDMI output toward display.
2) Standard micro-USB to USB cable from #1 to #3 (charger).
3) Griffin dual USB car charger.
4) Standard HDMI cable.
5) ViewHD Universal HDMI to Composite / AV Video Converter with HDMI input, optional (unnecessary) mini-USB power input, and composite A/V output to car display inputs.
6) Standard composite A/V cable.
7) The composite A/V inputs in my armrest. All gear above (#1-6) will be in my armrest, including #1, the MHL adapter.
8) Location of my phone - it fits perfectly in the ashtray opening when the ashtray door is open. I'll run a cable under the center console and out through the ashtray opening so that I can plug it in to my phone. The cable I need for this is number 10.
9) The phone, a Samsung Galaxy S III with its 11-pin MHL/micro-USB port.
10) This is the piece I don't have, can't find, and don't think I can make or re-create. I need it to be 11-pin micro-USB female on one end to plug into #1 above, and 11-pin micro-USB male on the other to plug into the phone. I think I need it to support the 11-pin Samsung micro-USB MHL pinouts (shown in macro/detail above) in order to pass both the audio/video and USB charging over the same cable. I might have to try the 5-pin flavors of MHL adapter (plus 5-to-11-pin adapter) and standard micro-USB cable to see if it works.
Any thoughts?
I would just splice into the mhl 11 pin cable and extend it as needed.
I've got a galaxy s3 but no mhl cable yet. Waiting for the price to drop a little...
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futaris said:
I would just splice into the mhl 11 pin cable and extend it as needed.
I've got a galaxy s3 but no mhl cable yet. Waiting for the price to drop a little...
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Hi futaris - thanks for the reply. The problem I have with that is two-fold. One, the actual 11-pin micro-USB section of the MHL adapter is very short, and doesn't leave a lot of room to actually snip wires, pull back insulation, and solder on an extension (to all 11 wires). Also, it's a one-shot deal with that option. If something goes wrong I'm out of $40 USD. That's why I was mainly avoiding using that method. If I use the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip, which functionality would I lose (charging, video, audio)? I don't need USB OTG in the car. That may be a better bet here.
dcs3 said:
Hi futaris - thanks for the reply. The problem I have with that is two-fold. One, the actual 11-pin micro-USB section of the MHL adapter is very short, and doesn't leave a lot of room to actually snip wires, pull back insulation, and solder on an extension (to all 11 wires). Also, it's a one-shot deal with that option. If something goes wrong I'm out of $40 USD. That's why I was mainly avoiding using that method. If I use the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip, which functionality would I lose (charging, video, audio)? I don't need USB OTG in the car. That may be a better bet here.
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The 5 pin adapter doesn't cost you any HDMI functionality or charging. It only costs you USB OTG that I know of.
thacounty said:
The 5 pin adapter doesn't cost you any HDMI functionality or charging. It only costs you USB OTG that I know of.
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Ok, so I tried the older 5-pin MHL adapter with the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip and it works. However, when I tried to use a standard micro-USB female to male extension cable (www .amazon.com/Micro-B-Female-Extension-Manhattan-307420/dp/B007TLEDTW), it wouldn't pass any video or audio. Are the pinouts from the 11-to-5-pin tip different than a standard micro-USB cable? Can anyone think of another way to allow me to place the MHL adapter further away (maybe 5ft) from the phone itself? Has anyone tried one of these along with the 11-to-5-pin adapter for the S3? www .amazon.com/gp/product/B006V7F380
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Ok, so I tried the older 5-pin MHL adapter with the 11-pin to 5-pin adapter tip and it works. However, when I tried to use a standard micro-USB female to male extension cable (www .amazon.com/Micro-B-Female-Extension-Manhattan-307420/dp/B007TLEDTW), it wouldn't pass any video or audio. Are the pinouts from the 11-to-5-pin tip different than a standard micro-USB cable? Can anyone think of another way to allow me to place the MHL adapter further away (maybe 5ft) from the phone itself? Has anyone tried one of these along with the 11-to-5-pin adapter for the S3? www .amazon.com/gp/product/B006V7F380
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I have heard that you can't extend USB very far, but I have no data to back that up. How about a longer HDMI cable instead?