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With honor to the_ape for finding the registry key HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCMenus
This allows you to modify the menu size and skin the images of the HTCMenus, as found on the new V3 TF3D, like the one in all the latest ROM's with Topaz stuff in it. See the screen prints if you are unsure what I am talking about. You need these newer menus already installed, if you not not have them yet, these settings will not install them for you.
Remark 1: Oddly though it changes the menu size for all programs, except TF3D itself....[elim]
Remark 2: Problems with menu's drawn from the top (slow with floodfill error) are solved. So it should now work with Resco, wktask, SC3. The error may still appear if you are in landscape, the menu is drawn from top and has 6 or less items. To solve that too, also restore the included bitmap to the windows directory.
The bitmaps are hardly changed (I colored 6 very critically placed pixels), but I did re-encode as monocrome & 8-bit, so the first load of the first menu should be marginally faster.
For full skinning, read post 24. But if you just want to make the menus smaller, the attached registry file will allow to fit 11 in stead of 8 menu items on a screen by reducing the tile hight from 72 to 60. To restore to the original, import the HTCMenuNormal file.
The total allowable 'Navi' + 'Item' heigth is 696 in portrait and 376 in Landscape.
Original portrait values are 72+46 which at 8 items means (46+8*72+46)=668
Original landscape values are 72+46 which at 3 items means (46+3*72+46)=308
Not only too large, but non-optimal use of space, especially in Landscape.
I use portrait values 60+18 which at 11 items is (18+11*60+18)=696 Exact!
and landscape values 57+17 which at 6 items is (17+6*57+17)=376 Exact!
So I believe these values are ideal in efficiency, large enough to select and drag, but quite a bit more menu selections (double in landscape!!). The 'Navi' is too small for the finger, but you are supposed to drag the entire menu. And they do still visualise the fact there are more menu options. Below zip file holds now these values.
Or do it manually:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCMenus]
"ItemHL"="0,[B]79[/B],0,[B]6[/B]"
"ItemHW"="440,[B]60[/B],640,[B]57[/B]"
"ItemTile"="10,[B]60[/B],[B]152[/B],0,11,22,33,44,55,66,77,88,99,110,121,132,143,154,165"
"NaviHW"="440,[B]17[/B],640,[B]17[/B]"
"NaviTile"="10,[B]17[/B],[B]162[/B],200,211,222,233,244,255,266,277,288,299,310,321,332,343"
"NaviIcon"="20,[B]17[/B],[B]162[/B],354,375,396,417"
I was hoping also to find a registry setting to speed up the animation (sliding, appearing from bottom) but that I did not find yet.
Below files are registry files. You can import them using your favorite registry editor. Don't forget to also copy the bitmaps to the windows directory, To uninstall/reset, import the 'Normal' registry file, which is the values as I first found them on my Dutty's 1.8 EXTREME. The bitmaps you can leave (it does not matter) or delete (the old ROM version will re-appear)
NOTICE: Even newer TF3D (Dutty 2.2, but possibly also other recent ROMS) have slightly different settings. Co0kieMonster worked it all out nicely here, so best not use the outdated files in this thread anymore, unless if you have a really old version of Manilla.
This is a cool idea, as those menus took up the whole screen sometimes. Got any screen-shotties?
Good tips. Thank you very much.
Helps if you could give some instruction on how to use the files.
I tried changing the reg vaules (all the "item" values). It does change it smaller, but causes havoc in my Resco File explorer. When pressing the favourite button, the device freezes with no drop down menu displayed at all. I then press the menu at the bottom right, and the entire screen went hair wired for a while.
thanks for sharing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
eaglesteve said:
Good tips. Thank you very much.
Helps if you could give some instruction on how to use the files.
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There just registry files. Just import them. 'Normal' to go back to original, 'Small' to use my 10-menuline settings.
If you have .fred task manager (fdcTaskMgr) you may first have to associate .reg files so you can import. On Dutty's 1.8, this is already done. I think your resco also has a registry editor and can also import.
Or you just manually read the registry files and edit using your Resco registry editor
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I tried changing the reg vaules (all the "item" values). It does change it smaller, but causes havoc in my Resco File explorer. When pressing the favourite button, the device freezes with no drop down menu displayed at all. I then press the menu at the bottom right, and the entire screen went hair wired for a while.
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Odd. Are the menus OK in other programs? You should soft-reset between changes. Can you revert to 'normal' by importing that file and is the problem gone again?
There is a problem with the selection (see screenshot #1). I test a little bit and when I let ItemHL on the values "0,73,0,0" it works better (see #2).
I attach the changed registry file.
Update: The problem is now that this doesn't work in manila?! All other menus are smaller but in manila the entries are normal (#3).
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There is a problem with the selection (see screenshot #1). I test a little bit and when I let ItemHL on the values "0,73,0,0" it works better (see #2).
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I had that once too, but it went away with the next reset. So I still have the ItemHL set to 58, but the select bar looks OK. So though I do not understand ItemHL, I think it may not be the cause of what you saw.
Edit: You are correct, the ItemHL needs to stay at 73, that value probably is not related to the 72 of ItemHW
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Update: The problem is now that this doesn't work in manila?! All other menus are smaller but in manila the entries are normal (#3).
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Hey, you are right. (I only use Manilla when I show of the phone, and use classic today normally) Maybe manilla uses hardcoded settings? Or some other registry settings?
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Odd. Are the menus OK in other programs? You should soft-reset between changes. Can you revert to 'normal' by importing that file and is the problem gone again?
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The problem of hair wired display is observed in Resco file explorer when you click on the favourite (Star) icon at the top right side. The device is momentarily frozen but return back with a blinking blackist menu.
If I import in the normal registry item, this problem is gone.
Okay - I LIKE the HTC menus on touchflo apps and would like to have this style menu in ALL programs (much like in Duttys rom) such as mail, calendar etc.. How can I make this happen?
But, it works only in Manila or also in all others programs (like Resco Explorer, ecc...)?
Thanks.
Kal-El said:
But, it works only in Manila or also in all others programs (like Resco Explorer, ecc...)?
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It only works in other Applications. In Manila it doesn't change anything (for me). But that's okay because only in other applications the menus are to big.
cybermaus said:
I had that once too, but it went away with the next reset.
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Two resets?
Update: No, doesn't change.
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Hey, you are right.
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At least it's not my mistake...
eaglesteve said:
The problem of hair wired display is observed in Resco file explorer when you click on the favourite (Star) icon at the top right side. The device is momentarily frozen but return back with a blinking blackist menu.
If I import in the normal registry item, this problem is gone.
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Well, I'll see if I can get a copy of Resco and try if I can confirm. But if it is like you say, I am not sure if there is anything we can do about it. There is no programming or anything, just the menu size. If Resco is allergic to that, we may simply have to accept that.
Kal-El said:
But, it works only in Manila or also in all others programs (like Resco Explorer, ecc...)?
Thanks.
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This *does not install* any large menu program. You must already have the large menus installed, they come with the new TF3D. And you probably do not have that, otherwise you would not have asked. If you do not have them yet, these settings will not do anything for you.
But yes, once you have HTC Menus installed, they work in *all* programs that use the template Windows Mobile menu system. (I suspect HTC replaces the template menu driver or something)
PS: do not mistake "HTC Menu" with "LargeStartMenu", also by HTC. The latter has been around for a while, even as cab, but the menu replacement is rather new, and not extracted (yet)
Cheers for taking it further, I'd had a play with the size values (not long enough), and not got what I wanted.
You have to remember the defaults are probably set for the pro2 with a smaller physical screen, hence the big'nes on the HD.
Font's are dependent on the font family you use I've found.
Looks like the small font mess up wktask too, rending it impossible to terminate/close task, or go to the action menu. Restoring it to normal font cures the problem.
Great!
thanks for sharing!
HTC Menu CAB installation?
cybermaus said:
This *does not install* any large menu program. You must already have the large menus installed, they come with the new TF3D. And you probably do not have that, otherwise you would not have asked. If you do not have them yet, these settings will not do anything for you.
But yes, once you have HTC Menus installed, they work in *all* programs that use the template Windows Mobile menu system. (I suspect HTC replaces the template menu driver or something)
PS: do not mistake "HTC Menu" with "LargeStartMenu", also by HTC. The latter has been around for a while, even as cab, but the menu replacement is rather new, and not extracted (yet)
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Ok, I understood thanks.
It is possible to obtain the CAB for this application?
I Use Finger Menu, but does not satisfy me to 100%, I prefer an application developed directly from HTC...
Still thanks.
Kal-El said:
Ok, I understood thanks.
It is possible to obtain the CAB for this application?
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I do not think anyone extracted it into a cab yet.
And I never done anything like that. It probably means finding out all the interdependencies between files, extracting said files, extracting the service settings, and building a cab. Interesting, I am willing to try when I have the time, but don't hold your breath, it may take a while.....
Really it is a very big work!
Fortunately I am a patient person...
Hi guys-
this is really a great forum - thanks for the great work! Excellent help for a TP2 newbie.
Touch Pro2 impressions: I just upgraded (vzw) from my ancient (and yet incredibly reliable) Motorola Q, and this thing is truly awesome. I used a Touch Pro almost a year ago, and returned it because it felt sluggish and a bit buggy. I think the 2 is a major improvement. Very responsive, great phone and speakerphone, great wifi and bluetooth and gps, great keyboard (but no tab key?), better battery, surprisingly inexpensive.
Questions that I couldn't find answers to in previous threads:
1. Reminders: I see that the calendar reminders do not allow any option for changing the snooze time - it is just 5 minutes. Weird, as my WinMo 5 Q would let me choose a range of time, from 5 minutes up to a week, as I recall. This is disappointing. But even more disappointing is that when it is attached via usb to my pc, synched, and a reminder pops up in Outlook (2003), I can snooze on the PC, but that snooze does not synch with the TP2. Any ideas or suggestions? This is actually very frustrating.
2. Calendar: I have seen screen shots of the day view that has weather, even for future dates. I don't have that - anyone know how to enable?
thanks in advance for any help!
This worked for me to get the snooze options back:
Start a registry editor and navigate to key:
HKLM/System/Shell/Notification/OEM
Change the value of CustomUIDLL from NotificationLayout.dll to NotificationLayoutNew.dll
Just add New, it won't find that .dll and starts the old interface, with the snooze option.
Don't forget, after the registry change, turn the TP2 off and back on to activate.
Regarding your question about the weather forcast in the calendar day-view, you need to set your city in the World Clock screen (ie, tap the large clock on the Home tab).
There's a great hack (cRaCKwHoRe's Snooze Options) which gives you the snooze options back.
Also worth looking at are "InboxExtender", (allow read all, delete al options) and "Smaberg X1 Powerbutton 12 icons actionscreen" (12 options on holding the power button down)
You guys rule!
@itm - reg fix works great - thanks
@ohyeahar - that's it, thanks
@en_croute - I will try it as soon as i get some time, sounds useful, thanks
Weather not shown on current date
ohyeahar said:
Regarding your question about the weather forcast in the calendar day-view, you need to set your city in the World Clock screen (ie, tap the large clock on the Home tab).
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I just noticed that the current weather is not shown for me either.
I do have a city selected. In the "day" view on the calendar is just shows the single appointment I have. If I change to yesterday. I do see a weather picture. I went to the TF3D weather tab.. it was initially blank.. it updated and showed the current weather. I went back to the calendar view.. still nothing for "today". Only yesterday. Any ideas?
What is a good registry editor?
Never used one before and I need to find one so I can get my battery icon back after doing Battlevel.cab .
d1hamby said:
Never used one before and I need to find one so I can get my battery icon back after doing Battlevel.cab .
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PHM_Regedit or Total Commander are the two most recommended ones here.
PHM is a little easier to navigate/use (mostly due to visual elements), but Total Commander also has a full set of file-explorer functions that PHM does not. Both are free.
Thank you so much sirphunkee. I was beginning to think nobody talked to newbies on this forum. I'll definetly be looking both of these up.
Okay I looked at both of them and downloaded the PHM_Regedit. Now I can't figure out if I should use MyMobiler to drag the Zipped cab file over or if I should unzip it first? When I unzipped it it did not look like a cab file. Does this work on a Sprint phone? Some of the cabs don't work on a Sprint phone. I'd hate to do another hard reset to get it to work like it is.
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Okay I looked at both of them and downloaded the PHM_Regedit. Now I can't figure out if I should use MyMobiler to drag the Zipped cab file over or if I should unzip it first? When I unzipped it it did not look like a cab file. Does this work on a Sprint phone? Some of the cabs don't work on a Sprint phone. I'd hate to do another hard reset to get it to work like it is.
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Hey there, no problem...we were all new here at one point, and asking the same types of questions
I'm not sure what source you downloaded it from, so I'm not entirely sure how it might have been packaged, but I would have guessed it should have just been a regular .cab file inside of a .zip. Either way, you can just download and use the cab I've attached here, I can confirm this one works just fine.
You can use MyMobiler to drag the cab over to your phone (it drops it in your "my documents" folder by default), and it will start the install automatically for you. Once you have it installed, you'll just find the icon to run it in your regular list of programs. And yes, it will work just fine on the CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) versions of the TP2...it's specific to what type of processor your phone has, not what type of radio.
Now, if you're not entirely familiar with registry editing, it's a good idea to read up on it a bit...it's very simple to do, but also very simple to create issues by doing the wrong thing. Also, it's always a good idea to create a backup of your registry (PHM can do that for you, just store it the backup on your SD card for safe keeping), in case anything goes wrong, you can just revert back to the working version
Hi, new user here, thanks for a great forum.
I just got my HTC Hero and i am loving it. The only thing i am missing very much is a working application for renaming shortcuts. If you add a shortcut to a person "James", default action create message, it shows on the desktop as "Send to J...", which would be great to be able to change.
I have tried both Anycut and Bettercut but none of these work on my phone. I am currently using Modaco 2.5 Core, but i haven't been able to make any of th apps work with the generic european 2.73 rom either - the icons i create do not show up, the Edit button shows no shortcuts to edit, and the apps crash.
Question is then,
1) do anybody have any idea where shortcuts are stored in the filesystem, and how they are represented, data wise? I created a new shortcut and then copied all .db and .xml files to the pc and started looking for it with a sqlite client and file search I but couldn't find anything there. (lol, hey, had to try something
2) do anybody know a combination of a custom rom and a shortcut management application that work together on the HTC Hero?
3) do anybody have any pointers to how to manipulate the shortcuts through java code/api?
Thank you in advance. Hope to be contributing to the forum, im truly fascinated with this thing ! Truly a great gadget.
Best regards
Apologies if this is addressed already somewhere. I searched for "rearrange" and did not see something which looked like what I'm asking.
I would like a tool (or failing that, just the registry or file magic) to rearrange Start menu (all Programs list) items in WM65. I'm running a Dutty Holy Grail ROM on my Topaz, withOUT HTC Sense.
The only rearranging option I see is "Move to Top" and "Move Down" when right-clicking on items in the Start menu, and that's sort of like a Rubik's cube - possible to get right, but waaaay too much work :-}
Thanks for your suggestions,
Jay
Since build like month or month a half back you should be able to "right click" and move it just where you want.
This is what you're looking for!
Not a sorter, a way to manually set icons/programs in whatever order *I* want
the "Start Menu Sorter" app is not at all what I'm looking for. It only does a sort (alphabetic?) of its own design.
What I'm looking for - sorry if I wasn't clear before - is something to allow me to rearrange the icons in the Start / Programs folder in any way that I want to. Ideally this would be a drag-and-drop interface, but frankly a Registry key or System file which identifies the order in which all of the registered programs appears would be okay, as it isn't the sort of thing I expect to edit often.
Any other ideas please?
Thanks.
Try this one http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=68864. This gives you full access, havent tried it myself, but going to today (if I can find the time). Looks like it may still be in Beta, but better than what we currently have!
This might also help.
reSTART seems to do the trick!
The reSTART applet does seem to do the trick, thanks.
The JSPA applet I had already tried - it actually does not seem to have any way to move menu items around, though when I read the web pages about it I also got the impression that it was supposed to do so.
I have a Tilt 2 running the NEW ROM.
I want to disable the automatic pop-up of the soft keyboard, so that I get to decide when I want to use it.
Is there a way to turn this feature off?
I have seen references to making changes to the registry, I assume there is a switch in there somewhere, but how does one access the registry? Is there a hidden program somewhere I could start or do I have to download it?
Thanks,
Richard..
You need to download a registry editor. There are various choices out there. I use Total Commander:
http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm
The reg edit that I have seen for preventing the soft keyboard from popping up, helps a little. But it doesn't prevent it in all situations.
As Redpoint mentioned, Total Commander is the preferred file explorer for most of us. Task Manager 3.1 is what I use for mobile registry editing. I do try to avoid doing any editing on my device, though. I rather edit on the PC side with the larger screen and less room for errors. For editing the device's registry from the PC, I use CEReg Editor 0.0.5.3.
For disabling the keyboard, you could try an app that I used to use on WM5 with my old Sable. It says it works with WM6, so give it a shot and see if you like it. It's called Nullkeyboard. All it does is add a blank SIP to your device. Select Nullkb from the SIP input button and you're good to go. Here is the link to the download.
I used Advanced Config. It gives you a nice way to select options and features and then change your registry for you. It is AWESOME for a tweaker. I'm using version 3.3.0.0 and it works great on my Tilt2 original OEM ROM.
Using this app, Under the Input category, change "Auto deply SIP" to disabled.
Okay, I downloaded the nullkeyboard and tried, it but it had no apparent effect.
I also downloaded the Task Manager 3.3 (latest version) and it works. I did a search for "keypad", but none of them appear to relate to controlling the pop-up feature.
Does anyone know what registry entry controls the soft keypad pop-up feature?
Thank you,
Richard..
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Okay, I downloaded the nullkeyboard and tried, it but it had no apparent effect.
I also downloaded the Task Manager 3.3 (latest version) and it works. I did a search for "keypad", but none of them appear to relate to controlling the pop-up feature.
Does anyone know what registry entry controls the soft keypad pop-up feature?
Thank you,
Richard..
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Did you select the nullkeyboard from the SIP selection window that pops up when you press the right side of the soft keyboard icon?
You should NOT be searching around the registry for things to change without knowing what they are. Doing so can possibly screw up your phone and require a hard reset. You should only apply registry changes you see posted on here, and change them exactly as indicated.
The reg edit to prevent SIP for opening:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip
"TurnOffAutoDeploy" value="1"
NullKeyboard - Oh, is that how it works? Thank you for telling me. It does the job, except for the times I would like to use the keyboard for quik edits, I have to change it back to the regular keyboard first.
REGEDIT - I found the registry key: HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip
but there were no values in it for: TurnOffAutoDeploy
I added the value: "TurnOffAutoDeploy" value="1" (no quotes) with the type REG_SZ and then rebooted the phone. I also changed NullKeyboard back to regular.
This had no effect on the Auto Deploy of the keyboard.
I was hoping the RegEdit would work. The keyboard would be there, but would not pop-up until I wanted it.
If I did something wrong, or you have any other suggestions, please let me know.
Thank you,
Richard..
I think the reg type should have been a DWORD value of 1.
Great! That did it. The keypad stays out of the way and is there if I want it.
Thank you,
Thank you, thank you, thank you, cajunflavoredbob
I have one app in which the pop-up keyboard on my T-Mobile HTC HD2 drives me nuts, and several others in which I could do without it. You gave me the answer that I couldn't find in any of the other threads, and I really appreciate it.
If anyone is watching, this is another tweak that should go in a gathering of such things!!
I doesn't work with me
please any one help me my application contains a lot of edit boxes when i focus on them the keyboard pops up i want the keyboard to pops up when i click on it only i tried all the solutions please any one list the steps