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Why don't cook a ROM with TOUCHFLO2D? Our Diamond could be faster!
Yeah this sounds like a good idea! I would personally prefer a blazing fugging fast 1.93 2D ROM than a sluggish 1.93 3D ROM... (Black Diamond theme of course )
i agree with you...
i use a ROM without TF3d (french Diamondstone rom) and i install Opal version of TF2d (found on this forum) and it work very fine, much faster tan the 3d version
maybe someone can try to cook this way.
it looks good on your device? since its qvga... or did someone edit it to work on vga?
o yar a faster diamond
just what i need..
the 3d is nice and all.. but after a while.. gets tired looking at it.. and besides the 2d version aint that bad...
and the analog clock is so much cooler...
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
Riel said:
I think 3d is fast enough and great for day-to-day usability?
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Not with every Rom, so 2d is much faster.
RideTheTube said:
Is there a VGA Version out?? I thought only for QVGA devices
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
avers said:
Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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thanks a lot bro!
It would be great to have ROM with TF2D! it will result in much faster diamond, extra stogare and memory.
hope one of our great developers will work on it.
cheers.
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
simcarloc said:
Faster perhaps. More boring and a step backwards, definitely! With so many super-quick ROMS for tf3d (Swift, Swtos etc), why would anyone want to do this? Too much time on your hands? ;-)
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Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
The ultimate ROM!
losdrivare said:
Because different people have different preference. Some prefer snappy performance before eyecandy, tf2d over tf3d, windows xp over vista...
While the new cooked ROMs definetly are faster than stock, the same cooked ROM with tf2d instead would be even faster while offering the same functionality.
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I agree completely! With that kind of speed (like with the tf2d) this ui would be an IPhone killer...
The only thing I am wondering about is, that nobody (as far as I have seen) yet inlcuded a proper SMS (only) Tool (like in iContacts, but without the contacts), because the WM5 version is indiscribably bad..
To bring it to a point (and I hope this is not too far off this topic): Why has nobody yet created a rom that comes standard with S2U2 installed and something like iContact (which directly replaces all the WM5 contacts and the links i.e. from tf3d / tf2d) and a Programs/settings views like in iPhonez(but only that part not the whole iPhonez, we want a killer, not a copy!). and last but not least something like a proper touch-fileexplorer like resco explorer2008(i simply mean the size of the file entries and a little revamping of the original fileexplorer, maybe there is one already?)
If a ROM like that would be put together well (and one of these capable cooks are able to include these tools much deeper and better than when a user installs them into the ROM) we could finally beat the iPhone! (I know its not about beating the iphone, but fact is that the diamond has one nice tf3d tool on top of the same old WM5 which in its original rom is slaggishly slow and is then supposed to beat the well thought through iPhone?? Of course not! there is no alternative that brings the same quality of UI - YET, BUT:
All these great programmers that took their time to create good apps (like iPhonez, iContact, ThumpCal, S2U2, etc..) if (and I know it probably is a challenge to get their agreement to put their stuff in a rom) this would be put togethere into one well made rom, the diamond would be unbeatable!!!!!!
Then get this ROM a bit known as the iphone-killer and this will be picked up in the public a bit more.. finally it could turn out that all these nice programmers get a big bunch of money so that their stuff or a version of it will be used as a permanent part of a stock rom and we all are happy because we will have the best phone ever, made by the people for the people! WHAT A VISION! and its realistic, too! Let's go and use the synergy of all the great cooks and developers and create the SUPER-ROM!!!!
I am ready to pay good developer 50USD to include the existing tools into a personalized ROM, just to have something that prooves the idea and convince the guys to give their permission. (and also to have that myself! )
So who wants the ultimate ROM!!
avers can u give us all the edited files of the tf2d vga u are using ? thanks
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Here's a VGA version. It's uncluding some bugs, but enough to try it.
You need to install the TFLO 2D version 0.9 or older!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429224
You can edit the xml file and the images to customize.
I'm using it about 3 days.
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Where can I find this VGA skin (the one in the attached thumnail)
Thank you
Hi every1!
This is my first post here on XDA and I'm here to bug you a 'lil... xD
I got Hermes maybe 10 days now and already made him sexy, specially cause of this ROM! Good job miffymiffy!
...Even if Manila isn't made for this "weak" HTC, this version here works almost perfect for me (well, how perfect can be Manila on Hermes? )...
First ROM i installed was also Manila, but my phone was sooooo slow and buggy...
I have some questions regarding this ROM.
1. On this TF2D menu, I cannot add programs/apps on the programs tab, also, people tab isn't working (I cannot add ppl to the menu). Can I do something about it to make it work?
2. I cannot manage soft buttons. Default ROM left button (i think) needs to be calendar and the right one iContacts, but I got "Phone" and "Programs" buttons which I cannot change (even with Soft key manager app)...
3. When I turn on my Hermes, it has around 19.XX MB of free RAM, but if I play around with my phone, it drops to 9MB... Why is that?
Would flashing the ROM again help to solove this things above?
Anyway, I'm glad that XDA exists otherwise I would be bored...
P.S. Do U suggest some other (better maybe!?) Manila TF2D ROM...?
Cheers everyone!
I can't help you much with the issues, but I can suggest a couple of ROMS. Josh & TAI both have light Manilla that look good. I personally don't like manilla ROMS just because they hog system resources. But check those out, they were pretty sweet.
Well yeah, I also hate Manila cause it slows down the sys, but I'm addicted to it and NEED to run it...
I simply love this kind of flash interface...
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
Well, so my questions:
is there a diamond theme for spb3.0?
i ve seen there s one for 2.1, but it s not working on 3.0
Should I put a ROM for my diamond?
I want it to be as fast as possible (and possibly the touch screen to be more sensitive)
Which ROM would you advise me? (and can it be compatible with SPB3?)
I m not asking how to do it, just the latest ROMS avail that are faster and smoother.
i haven t properly understood how i can see what is inside each rom.
basically i want GPS working, i want tasks and calendar, internet and wifi and radio.
maybe a better video player cause the ones i have do suck.
That's it, thanks guys!
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i have WM 6.1 how should I update to 6.5? is it easy? free?
i can t update weather data with SPB MS 3.
I have internet, it works.
but when I click UPDATE it does nothing...
Yes its free.
Yes its easy.
Run hardspl on ur diamond, and download one of the roms in this forum, then connect ur phone via activesync, start the program.
Then ur set to go.
Sry if that was a little hard to read, but i just woke up
ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
iorga1 said:
Hi,
I haven t flashed my diamond yet.
But yesterday I installed the spb 3 and it s amazing.
I even think it s faster...
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Flash ANYTHING else than the stock ROM and you will see about speed and smooth... And THEN compare it with SPB...
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ok thanks.
so you're telling me that WM6.5 comes preshipped inside some ROMS, is that correct?
Any ROM compatible with SPB MS3 and super light (but with GPSToday, Tomtom, Coreplayer or similar, wifi and some extra apps?)
Cheers
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Win 6.5 is NOT OFFICIAL YET, so you can't have it in "preshipped" roms. What;s' out there is leaked betas.
Fast 6.1 Rom - Nataly (check Pietrucci's benchmarks), comes with kitchen so you can set it up the way you want.
Fast 6.5 rom - well, they are not THAT fast and consume more memory.
If you have manila CFC compressed, and a fast rom, then SPB doesn't offer any real advantages. It's just something different. I tried it, and, hmm... came back to TF3D. it's functional, smooth, etc. I tried to put out "i got used to it" factor, as you can get used to spb shell too. it's just that I didn't found any real (speed or memory) reasons to use SPB. And fork extra money for it on the top of it... TF3D is free after all....
As well, when it comes to the applications -you install what you want, don't expect to have tomtom in rom, apart from other things it's illegal.... ROM is a base. then you customize it (in kitchen ) or install what you want after.
Good luck in search for optimum config!
thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
SPB is just a today app, u can still use spb after installing new rom.
Belive me, if u install other roms like Energy ROM, it will be faster, smother and better.
After installing new rom just install SPB again.
Even if it looks like its older roms here, it aint.
Hope this answer will help you.
Cheers mate!
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thanks for your answer.
ok so basically you're telling me SPB is not that fast compared to ROMs avail out there, and its functionnality is not that evident.
I like it a lot (though no way to update weather)
And my ROM is 1.93.,,,, radio 1.25... so it s not that outdated, is it?
which ROM should I put in order to have at least the same than what I have?
Cause it seems ROM development was huge some time ago, and you guys had the HTC diamond a long time ago... mine has 4 months, and this means it might come shipped with an already decent ROM. I wouldn t like to flash it with an older ROM and see some features/apps disappear... do you see what I mean?
Am I wrong? cause the google entries only show roms from 2008... is there anything newer out there?
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I STRONGLY suggest the use of searh feature:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Upgrades
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512505
It helps ENORMOUSLY....
And in general - from the posts above I would suggest that you do first some reading. there's a lot of decent FAQ's here, as well as tutorials. Just read for 2 -3 evenings. It will be VERY beneficial to you, I hope.
After all, none of us was simply born with the knowledge.. And all of us had the 1st day with diamond, then some time on this forum, and then a lot of things became self-explanatory...
Good luck!
thanks guys
i read all this info a long time ago, did not upgrade, so I forgot a lot.
But I understand the ideas and the vocabulary
You said 2 things:
- upgrade the HTC site ROM. ok but it is not recognised when I type in my serial number. cause telefonica movistar SPN is a bit annoying for this.
as far as i remeber my readings, this would be solved when hardspl and ROM flashed.
- the numbers taht appear on the table, do not correspond to mines. So I guess this means I should get one of those, and try to proceed to the upgrade.
Is is worth? (i think it s better to get rid of that annoying logos and themes and crappy heavy processes shipped in the movistar ROM and grab the ENERGY one, or another one like Rhodian (have to read)
Anyway thanks for your answers.
I ll try to flash the ROM. First have to make a backup.
also i might have a dump of the ROM for guarantee purposes, done few months ago
cheers,
Hi,
Because speed is important, My suggestion is BsB ROM Specially Version J.(Windows Mobile 6.5)
Version L is slightly slower (Because of 10mb pp instead of 16mb-not big difference)
I'm using BsB ROM+SPB Mobile shell V3 and it works like a charm.
Good Luck!
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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I agree, but I must say that SPB 3 with a standard rom is a lot faster than any rom with TFLO that I've tested.
mjaxa said:
When it is about speed, a review "works like a charm" is, how to say, highly subjective
I recommend the benchmark thread by pietrucci - so far this is the only objective test of many diamond roms.. and according to that, 6.5 is not that fast...
Sorry - that's what the benchmarks say...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406640
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Hi,
Thanks for the benchmark, but i have to say :
1) Bsb 6.5 ROM isn't in benchmark . i also can't see Energy WM6.5 ROM in this benchmark. These two are fastest available 6.5 ROMs for diamond (in my opinion)
2) in my personal experience, spb mobile shell 3 on Bsb ROM, is faster than any Other 6.5 or 6.1 ROM.(specially if you change pp to 16mb-default is 10).
3)I think Bsb ROM is Quick because of Excellent Memory Management. with Mobile shell 3 running, i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB.
Give it a try, i'm sure that you won't be disappointed.
Good Luck!
OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
And about memory - so you say "i have more than 50MB free Memory after Boot(pp=10MB) and without SPB More than 61MB." hmmm. In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
SPB Benchmark Results for BsB 6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell
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OK, you may be right, but still, in order to say "is fast" you need to compare it to hard data. If you want to bother you should install SPB Benchmark and run it on this ant that rom, and ONLY then you will really see.
Having said that, at the end it doesn't really matter. What matter's is user comfort/feeling
In my configured rom (including extra apps like lumos, keyboard switcher, etc) after reset I have 56MB free. Without TF3d 64MB. So... this is rather standard for me Nothing special here...
But ultimately it comes to personal preference. I like Nataly, because there is kitchen and I can "trim" the ROM to my personal taste. Of course, the speed and LOTS of memory doesn't hurt...
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Hi,
I agree that it comes to personal preference Completely.
SPB benchmark Results : (first after a full day working , second after soft reset)on BSB6.5L + SPB Mobile Shell 3 Running
Keep it in mind that Nataly is WM6.1 and BsB is WM6.5.
1)
Spb Benchmark index 741.55
CPU index 1766.19
File system index 344.06
Graphics index 3551.07
2)
Spb Benchmark index 765.9
CPU index 1776.53
File system index 359.16
Graphics index 3336.17
I also attached XML Result Files.
Good Luck!
Hello everybody,
I've the P3300 almost since three years by now (I've buyed just at the launch date!).
I've always used the original rom, moving to wm6 when the orginal wm6 rom was released.
Now I would like to change, but I've found quite a lot of choices and I'm a bit confused.
Could you be so kind to suggest me some stable rom, both with and without manila interface? (I understand manila2D interface roms are better looking but a bit heavier with respect to that wihtout manila 2D, isn't?)
Thank you in advance!
Good Rom
Click my signature and look at my posts for TouchFlo 4.02
This is by far the best rom I have used and believe I have used a few
It's only my problem that i see no signature for Dixiesmu?
In Profile options the box "Show Signatures" obviously is checked.
Hi all (it's my first message on this board)!
dins said:
Hello everybody,
I've the P3300 almost since three years by now (I've buyed just at the launch date!).
I've always used the original rom, moving to wm6 when the orginal wm6 rom was released.
Now I would like to change, but I've found quite a lot of choices and I'm a bit confused.
Could you be so kind to suggest me some stable rom, both with and without manila interface? (I understand manila2D interface roms are better looking but a bit heavier with respect to that wihtout manila 2D, isn't?)
Thank you in advance!
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Hi...
There's a ROM cooked by Shady (he is the best, i should say), very stable and speedy. I'm upgrade to his rom 23081 R2 and till now...NO COMPLAINTS...its worth upgrading to Shady's rom 23081 R2...
See link below. All credit goes to Shady...he is worth donations
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546805&highlight=camera+fix
Cheers
Jabir
Guys i'm looking for clean wwe rom with wm 6.5 and manilla 3d 2.5 .I'm looking for some few day already and I couldn't find one. Please recomend me one . tnks in advance
me too, .
I am also looking for a ROM that isn't loaded with unwanted applications. I have tried four so far and each one has an app that I can't update or remove. I just want to be able to pick what I want and just what I want. So far my searches have come up with nothing, are there any roms either out there or in development that are just the OS and nothing else?
I agree. What I seek is a straight and clean stable build of 6.5 with no frills or HTC customizations.
so , i see i'm the only one who wants to use clean roms. Is there somebody who can cook already cooked rom but without odd programs. Just the programs which are included in original HTC roms and may some with help the devices to work proper with new manila 2.5.
6.5
Hello,
As far as I can see, there are some modern, clean 6.5 builds without HTC customizations, see the forums.
What we are looking for here is a 6.5 build with Manila 2.5 and its associated HTC apps just if It was a recently bought new terminal.
If the HTC pictures seen those days are real, I think they have RTMed with 6.5 builds and not with 6.5.1 buils (see start at the top and thick bottom bar). I think this is more convenient for Manila...
Regards
I think if its possible to make something like categories witch separates different rom types. For example clean, with one kind of nesasary programs and another kind witch are custom made like where are added different themes and additional programs. May be somebody can add a new post where they are discribed and add links to the post where the roms are added. So , if somebody wonders witch one to choose will have them in one place and will not be forced to search several pages.
Many clean ROMs have "CLEAN" in their thread name. So... does it ring any bells? If you search the "Diamond ROM developement" for, um, lets say the phrase "CLEAN 6.5", and check the "search only in title" (or sth like that), it should be enough to find clean 6.5 roms.
As for the manila 2.5, as i know, it's still in developement (which you should know, if you bothered to dedicate 30 minutes to reading the only two threads including "manila 2.5" in their title), and there are ONLY TWO (2) roms with manila 2.5. One is 6.1(Sun.Y) and the other is 6.5(Sun.X).
Oh...and yes..there is a search function on this forum Did i point that out already?
EDIT: Oh...and there is Eugenia rom, which actualy uses work from the Sun project...as far as i know. Correct me if needed..
I'm sure not only me and the others used search and read the forum for nice rom . But the most roms even clean ones have program witch are not useful for some of us and use additional memory. Otherwise I totally agree with you - there is still i think a lot of time until we see proper manilla 2.5 working on our diamonds. cheers
Well. My advice on searching roms is: Look only in the first two or three pages, beacuse those roms are actively updated. When it says [FINAL] in the rom topic title, that's even better. If you are looking for a stable and fast rom, try to avoid BETA releases (altough, some work pretty well). As for ram consumption... 6.1 roms are (from my experience) more ram friendly than 6.5 rom. BUT a 6.5 rom with titanium enabled is more ram efficient than a 6.1 rom with Manila 2.1. Also, big ram consumera are non-WM default dialers. They can take up to 10-12mb of RAM. You can disable them, and enable the default WM dialer (search the threads...it can be done via CAB or AdvancedConfig), but that brings problems while using manila 2.1 (and 2.5 i think). Don't worry too much about "unuseful" preinstalled software on [CLEAN] roms, beacuse well they can take up some space on your phone memory, but usualy don't eat RAM, unless you run them.
I actually don't use CLEAN roms, beacuse i find some medium loaded roms more usefull (see my signature). With my rom i have no problem running IGO8 or listening to mp3(s2p) while surfing the net with opera. And that is while i get around 74% used RAM after a day of usage (62-65% on clean boot). RAM is meant to be used, and don't get frightened if it sometimes jumps up to 80% (a friend of mine has 11mb of free ram on an Ipgone 3g, and that thing still flies...beacuse it actuall uses ram (efficiently!!)).
My 2 cents. I hope it helps you find the right rom.
EDIT: oh, and CleanRam is a pretty useful app... (on level 2 or 3)
thanks a lot for this full answer mate I hope it will be useful not only for me, but for everyone who needs help about looking for new rom.
I've settled for BsB for the moment (the 6.5 variant).