Hope someone can offer me some advice. Video playback is very high on my priorities. I currently have an Omnia which is pretty flawless playing back DIVX or XVID encoded files. I am not interested in playing back High Def content, only xvid/divx avi files that I download such as TV and DVD Rips.
How good is the Touch Pro 2 with Coreplayer, I am pretty worried from all that I read about HTC/Qualcomm drivers not working properly and this is a deal breaker for me. I don't know if the Touch Pro 2 is the same, I know it has the same processor.
I have been out of contract for a couple of months and was waiting to get an Iphone but I will have to encode all my xvid files in order for them to play, at least until Coreplayer for Iphone is released. I was happy with my Omnia but I seem to have endless problems with getting programs working as they should and of course there is no official support on this site.
If video playback is ok for these type of files I may go for either the Diamond 2/Touch Pro 2 or Touch HD as they all seem to be a similiar spec.
meddleuk said:
Hope someone can offer me some advice. Video playback is very high on my priorities. I currently have an Omnia which is pretty flawless playing back DIVX or XVID encoded files. I am not interested in playing back High Def content, only xvid/divx avi files that I download such as TV and DVD Rips.
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If video playback is ok for these type of files I may go for either the Diamond 2/Touch Pro 2 or Touch HD as they all seem to be a similiar spec.
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These play flawlessly on my antiquated Vogue as long as they are encoded properly, so I think there's no reason to suspect they will play any worse on the TP2. Perhaps the additional resolution, I suppose. But my experience has been that video on HTC is good stuff.
I read a review that it plays Xvid without any drop frames but can't play Dvix properly.
If you don't mind re-encoding your downloaded videos using the Video GUI, then you won't have any problems. I use it for my HD and it plays very very well at 624x352 resolution.
All you need to do is let it run over night and download it to your phone in the morning. Easy huh?
Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.
chongbh said:
Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7InTpNWJ4HQ
Can only get on youtube through my Rhodium at work but isn't that video HD?
It's got a pretty fast processor for a phone but it's still only 533MHz, it can't playback HD content!
I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?
Yea i have no issues at all with any video format with coreplayer with the exception of mkvs.
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I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?
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I am also using Core Player for playing back the above FLV format file.
Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.
The HTC player will playback mp4's encoded with H.264, so long as they're Standard Definition with stereo audio.
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Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.
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I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.
What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.
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What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.
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I have used Coreplayer for playback.
Tried encoding "The Black Knight" Movie in the below format :
1) Width x Height (704 x 296)
2) Bit Rate (64kbs)
3) Audio Format (Lame MP3)
4) Frame Rate (23 frames/second)
5) Data Rate (1031 kbs)
6) video Sample Size (24 bit)
7) Video Compression (XVID)
There is some portion of the playback jerky and not smooth, any problem with the above settings?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.
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I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.
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I used a Firefox addon that "strips" the contents out of the pages (videos, sounds, SWF, ...). It can also be used to convert to other video formats while downloading, but I didn't use this feature as I wanted to test with the real deal.
I double-checked just now, and the smaller file (LowRes) is 4.76MB and it's fully functional and it plays 'till the end. The HD is 33,9MB. Perhaps there's a different file version when you stream directly from the internet... it doesn't make much sense, but I'm just guessing.
I didn't had time to continue searching for the right codecs yet. But I'll give it a go tomorrow. I'm sure I was not the 1st to experience this "issue" and the codecs "should" exist somewhere... so I hope.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.
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Thanks for your recommendation and I recode the video again, it is much smoother playing over the WMP.
Will use this program to encode future DVD or Video for playback in my Touch Pro 2.
I want to store a heap of video files on the phone for travelling for 6 weeks. Can anyone make any suggestions on the best combination of video player and video compressing tools for the HTC Desire?
I used Handbrake to compress videos (and meridian to watch it), but I hate doing it, because it takes time.
With new avi players, soon it won't be necessary.
Rock divx player is already (in beta version) capable of playing regular divx/xvid avi videos (624x352) in great frame rate, but doesn't support subtitles at current version.
yx player supports subs, but framerate is an issue.
so, rock divx will be answer to our prayers for sure
Both hands up for "Rock Player"!!!
i use h263 on handbrake, which is ipod legacy.. unfortunatly h264 seems to be unsuppoted
+1 Rock player. Plays divx/xvid videos with relative ease!
I need to compress the files for phone size though as it would be a waste of space to have standard size files? I will look at rock player though.
Since purchasing my TP2, I've labored under the belief (supported by a lot of other users) that xvid playback had to be choppy, and if I wanted smooth video (even encoded SD, 640x480ish), I had to convert my files to h264. I have an HTPC and compress all my shows into xvid, always have, and have no desire to change, so I basically abandoned watching video on my handset.
I was trying out a new tip today for better performance (muxing the same old files into an mp4 container without conversion) when my control file (same old avi/xvid to compare performance with) played absolutely perfectly. Not the hiccupy, choppy, 3-7fps I remember from when I first tried it, but smooth as silk. What the frak? I never even got around to trying my new tip out.
I grabbed an older file of the same show, also avi/xvid but WMP wouldn't open it and TCPMP played it at the 3-7FPS choppy unwatchable speed I remember from the old days. The only difference in the new file is that instead of using an mp3 audio track, I had stream copied the original AC3 audio track to deal with a sync issue I had with that particular recording. The video in both has the same xvid encoding by the same program with the same settings.
I'm preparing another test as I write to ensure that is the only difference between these two files. I'll take the same HD mpeg2, convert it into 1 xvid+mp3 and another xvid+ac3 with all other settings identical and compare their performance. I'll try mp2 audio as well (for my analog recordings). In the meantime, can anyone explain why mp3 audio would cause otherwise playable video of modest resolution to slow to a crawl?
So I got a .mp4 movie last night and it was a 272mb file the movie was about an hour long. I got audio but no video so I tried the videora pocket encoder for the tilt2 and the thing blew the file up to a much larger size. What is the smallest format I can use on these files to get crisp playback.
just FYI I will be using this video with the video-out function. In coreplayer the video flickers awful, and when I switch from QTV the playback sucks on it.