Hope someone can offer me some advice. Video playback is very high on my priorities. I currently have an Omnia which is pretty flawless playing back DIVX or XVID encoded files. I am not interested in playing back High Def content, only xvid/divx avi files that I download such as TV and DVD Rips.
How good is the Touch Pro 2 with Coreplayer, I am pretty worried from all that I read about HTC/Qualcomm drivers not working properly and this is a deal breaker for me. I don't know if the Touch Pro 2 is the same, I know it has the same processor.
I have been out of contract for a couple of months and was waiting to get an Iphone but I will have to encode all my xvid files in order for them to play, at least until Coreplayer for Iphone is released. I was happy with my Omnia but I seem to have endless problems with getting programs working as they should and of course there is no official support on this site.
If video playback is ok for these type of files I may go for either the Diamond 2/Touch Pro 2 or Touch HD as they all seem to be a similiar spec.
meddleuk said:
Hope someone can offer me some advice. Video playback is very high on my priorities. I currently have an Omnia which is pretty flawless playing back DIVX or XVID encoded files. I am not interested in playing back High Def content, only xvid/divx avi files that I download such as TV and DVD Rips.
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If video playback is ok for these type of files I may go for either the Diamond 2/Touch Pro 2 or Touch HD as they all seem to be a similiar spec.
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These play flawlessly on my antiquated Vogue as long as they are encoded properly, so I think there's no reason to suspect they will play any worse on the TP2. Perhaps the additional resolution, I suppose. But my experience has been that video on HTC is good stuff.
I read a review that it plays Xvid without any drop frames but can't play Dvix properly.
If you don't mind re-encoding your downloaded videos using the Video GUI, then you won't have any problems. I use it for my HD and it plays very very well at 624x352 resolution.
All you need to do is let it run over night and download it to your phone in the morning. Easy huh?
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Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.
chongbh said:
Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7InTpNWJ4HQ
Can only get on youtube through my Rhodium at work but isn't that video HD?
It's got a pretty fast processor for a phone but it's still only 533MHz, it can't playback HD content!
I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?
Yea i have no issues at all with any video format with coreplayer with the exception of mkvs.
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I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?
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I am also using Core Player for playing back the above FLV format file.
Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.
The HTC player will playback mp4's encoded with H.264, so long as they're Standard Definition with stereo audio.
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Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.
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I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.
What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.
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What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.
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I have used Coreplayer for playback.
Tried encoding "The Black Knight" Movie in the below format :
1) Width x Height (704 x 296)
2) Bit Rate (64kbs)
3) Audio Format (Lame MP3)
4) Frame Rate (23 frames/second)
5) Data Rate (1031 kbs)
6) video Sample Size (24 bit)
7) Video Compression (XVID)
There is some portion of the playback jerky and not smooth, any problem with the above settings?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.
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I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.
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I used a Firefox addon that "strips" the contents out of the pages (videos, sounds, SWF, ...). It can also be used to convert to other video formats while downloading, but I didn't use this feature as I wanted to test with the real deal.
I double-checked just now, and the smaller file (LowRes) is 4.76MB and it's fully functional and it plays 'till the end. The HD is 33,9MB. Perhaps there's a different file version when you stream directly from the internet... it doesn't make much sense, but I'm just guessing.
I didn't had time to continue searching for the right codecs yet. But I'll give it a go tomorrow. I'm sure I was not the 1st to experience this "issue" and the codecs "should" exist somewhere... so I hope.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.
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Thanks for your recommendation and I recode the video again, it is much smoother playing over the WMP.
Will use this program to encode future DVD or Video for playback in my Touch Pro 2.
So I love my HD because of it's big screen (I love watching movies). I download these high quality 3d anime movies and sink them down to 800x480, play them on my coreplayer 1.3.6 or smth and it lags like hell. I try it on Windows media player and it runs perfectly. Am I doing something wrong or does coreplayer really suck ?
i think it might be you.
on my HD, i pick any 1hr30min+ video encoded for playback on pcs (file size 700mb) and it plays fine in CP
Maybe its a ROM issue? try disabling manila or a softreset and see if that helps.
Would have to agree with ASK
Yeah, coreplayer is brilliant, plays pretty much everything i throw at it. Though at first i'd have agreed with you, but for differing reasons.
I think it's more A ROM issue, because I flash ROMs every week or two and on some ROMs coreplayer lags like hell. With stock ROM is the best I think
840x480 is too much for our HD try a bit lower something in the range of 624x352 it looks and runs smooth 98.22% average speed with a good ROM I run hdtv rips downloaded and not compressed or anything... tweaks are important also try different drivers and speed improving programs .
I loaded a standard definition american dad episode (approx 135mb) and coreplayer plays it flawlessly on my HD.
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So I love my HD because of it's big screen (I love watching movies). I download these high quality 3d anime movies and sink them down to 800x480, play them on my coreplayer 1.3.6 or smth and it lags like hell. I try it on Windows media player and it runs perfectly. Am I doing something wrong or does coreplayer really suck ?
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Maybe it is you. LOL, just kidding. I never sunk anything to a special format for it to be played by CP: I have DivX, XViD, MP4, AVI movies, I just put them on my storage card and open them "as is" in Coreplayer 1.36. Either your manipulation to "sink" the anime to 800*480 was wrong, because you don't need to actually. Or it could be ROM related.
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Never knew it could be ROM related.. 0.o I'll test that. What about other normal movies, like not anime? Are they watchable ?
where it could be ROM related it it probably more likely to be a long standing issue with the HD and drivers, this has been covered a zillion times already. The HD will have trouble most video files in coreplayer as there is no hardware acceleration and the CPU alone just doesnt have the low down grunt.Your best bet is to upgrade to the HD2 or to covert your files using the touch HD video converter, (there are a few versions about) and then play them in HTC video player which has acceleration.
That being said, coreplayer if by far the best player on the market with regards to formats and codec suppport, if you dont mind reducing the resolution a little on your movies they should reasonable well.
The software I like, the company I do not however as they are mislead their customers, make huge exegerations about future update release dates and generally pissed off their customer base when failed to release V2 on time and moved their dev to android.
If you are going to upgrade to the HD2 I would try the free version TCMP first as it has AC3 suppport.
Hey what class cards are you guys playing stuff off or are ya's playing stuff off the internal memory?
I'm asking because even though mine could play a cartoon flawlessly, I tried watching a normal tv episode on my HD and it failed miserably, dropped frames, video got stuck every few minutes, it was totally poo
I'm wondering if its my card or my TCPMP release, I have read some have hardware acceleration and most other versions don't, I'm using a Class 4 8GB card at the moment and am wondering if Ill get a lot of benefit for Video/Music going to a Class 6 8GB Micro SDHC card.
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Never knew it could be ROM related.. 0.o I'll test that. What about other normal movies, like not anime? Are they watchable ?
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I have watched many 700mb DVD-rip's using coreplayer, i use the smartphone edition on my blackstone
why not use HTC encoder to transcode the files? that way the files can be played by HTC Album/WMP and take advantage of the h.264 hardware decoder in the blackstone.
Coreplayer on Windows mobile was the best media player period, but it's not available on Android.
Which media players will do slowmo playback ?
What Im also interested in is, can the Galaxy S do high-fps recording?
The Wave does it and its nearly the same hardware. I wonder why Samsung didnt built this in. The Droid X has it too afaik.
Supports 30fps video!
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Supports 30fps video!
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That's not what I meant...
Do you know those slow mo vids of exploding ballons filled with water etc.?
I want to record videos like that.
It's recording with like 200fps!
The Samsung Wave and Droid X are capable of doing so, but the Galaxy S isn't.
I wants to know, too.
The resolution would surely have to be downscaled, I suppose.
After much debate I finally got hold of the Galaxy S because I thought it would be the ultimate multi-media device (being able to play 720P mkv's and other media without conversion), so I put the iphone 3GS away.
Lo and behold, it has the same crappy media player controls as the iphone.
Play , Pause and scroll slider.
Come on!!!!
Even my 5 year old windows mobile smartphone (SPV C500) had the ability to play media at variable speeds .inc variable speed slow motion (coreplayer).
Please tell me that there's a fully loaded media player available for Android that does this device justice.
anyone seen anything new similar to Coreplayer?
RockPlayer on the market is for armv6...but I remember that one friend manage to install the v7 from market.
Regarding 720p mkv playing, some videos were running even with subtitles rendered, while others no. Others couldn't play at all, like the 1080p mkv. Anyone knows if there is a bitrate limit or why others 720p mkv don't work?
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RockPlayer on the market is for armv6...but I remember that one friend manage to install the v7 from market.
Regarding 720p mkv playing, some videos were running even with subtitles rendered, while others no. Others couldn't play at all, like the 1080p mkv. Anyone knows if there is a bitrate limit or why others 720p mkv don't work?
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What does this have to do with a slomo feature?
I am not aware of any media player for Android that can play slowmo, but I think there is one way you could do this indirectly using the "VLC stream and convert" app. Stream your movie from your desktop to your phone in slowmo via VLC media player which can play movies in slowmo.
I have not tried this myself but I guess it should work. I know this is not the ideal solution.
So I've recently started watching shows again and I've wanted to find a great MKV player that works well on the Dinc. Only problem I'm having is the actual playback, is the Dinc not suited for mkv playability?
When I use Rockplayer, its really choppy on the different files. And the sound doesn't seem to sync up all that well, a bit on the laggy side. I know the hardware isn't really suited for video playability but it seems to do pretty well on avi's and mp4's and the sort. MKV seems to be the popular type among others, but it isn't handled well by the phone.
Should I just convert my videos to the "lower" format? Does anyone have a good reccomendation for an MKV player or settings of the sort?
Thanks in advance!
I tried RockPlayer today, too, and was disappointed in it. Seems that I'll be transcoding my files to AVI with h264 or some such. It might help to remove unnecessary language tracks, subs, etc. If you don't plan on using another screen to view the files, downsizing to 720x480 would be a great help, if the source files are larger.
Have you tried VPlayer? it is in alpha right now, but I haven't had a problem with it playing anything. Although I haven't tried a HD movie file.
When I had the Original Motorola Droid 1 I used both RockPlayer and arcMedia.
When I tested .mkv files with arcMedia, it played really smooth.
Look for arcMedia in the market and let us know if it works out better for you.
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Have you tried VPlayer? it is in alpha right now, but I haven't had a problem with it playing anything. Although I haven't tried a HD movie file.
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VPlayer seems like the closest possible. Once it gets better I'll definitely use it. But right now, its not so good because its pretty choppy. For one of my dual audio files, it plays a screechy sound, but it'll get better. I'll leave the creator some feedback and such but, I like it.
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When I had the Original Motorola Droid 1 I used both RockPlayer and arcMedia.
When I tested .mkv files with arcMedia, it played really smooth.
Look for arcMedia in the market and let us know if it works out better for you.
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It works somewhat well, but when I play videos, they're still choppy and the sound isn't synced either. Better than Rockplayer in terms of playing mkv files but maybe it might also be the size of the file itself that is causing the problems.
500mb does seem like quite a bit to process. But...a contradiction lies with the fact that Rockplayer and others can play large avi/mp4 files? Gah, I guess I'll just wait for updates or something, convert some of my files. >_>
Check out CorePlayer on Twitter. Their tweets indicate that it will be released very soon.
I've been waiting for this since I made the switch from Windows Mobile to Android. It should be extremely stable and play everything.
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mkv files are a problem in general. Most of my files are in .avi. I have a 1.4 gb dream theater concert that runs fine on arcmedia, but again its not an mkv.
We have VLC Mobile to look forward to early 2011 lol
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Edit: Sorry I didn't see this thread sooner: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1366756
Hello, currently I am using the Galaxy S II (1.5ghz Qualcomm S3 version). It almost play 720p MKV videos with RockPlayer, but not quite, since the audio lags behind the video.
Can someone give RockPlayer a try with some hd MKV files on their Nexus and see if it can handle them? Low bitrates will manage, but I'm looking at 720p and 1080p MKV videos at 2000kbps or more.
I am interested in waiting for the American version of the Galaxy Note, but it will also use the Qualcomm S3 chip, which means even though it has a larger screen, it won't play be playing my videos. If the Nexus can manage these videos, I rather get it instead.
There are some legal hd videos such as big buck bunny, which can be converted from MP4 to MKV.
(PS. Yes I want to watch HD videos on my cellphone screen.)
I am the same way. I play 720P .mkv on my phone. i currently have the Rezound(the Nexus is not available in the US yet). When i was using the Thunderbolt, it would play these files, but unless i overclocked the phone it would play out-of-sync(but even then, it would still be slightly out-of-sync).
On the Rezound, 99% of the time the files play just fine(no sync issues). I found that the best player to use is 'Dice Player', followed by MX Video Player.
I did say "99%", and yeah.. for some reason, on rare occasions a video will start to slip out-of-sync, and when it does it's with MX Video Player.. but if do it through Dice Player it plays fine.
I will say though that having 'Sense' on this phone isn't exactly a big plus when it comes to try to getting the best performance out of it. Luckily, the Nexus doesn't have Sense.
I have done a few BluRay rips to 1280x720 (native nexus) and they play on the Galaxy Nexus perfectly using build in player. Much, much better than they ever did on my 10.1 tablet. No issues at all.
The scene I use for test is the bit in Inception where the tables explode in the cafe, this really makes some struggle. No prob on the nexus, very impressed.
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Galaxy Nexus 1080p FULL HD and 720p MKV Video Playback Test
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Galaxy Nexus 1080p FULL HD and 720p MKV Video Playback Test
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MX Player seemed to have more options on when to use hardware decoding than QQ Player has in that video. You could have hardware video decoding while also running software audio decoding.