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Overclocking

I have set my Dash to 240MHz from i guess the standard 201MHz, however it doesn't seem to be any faster. I've tried multiple tasks at the same time and I just can't feel a difference in speed.
On the system info it always shows 201MHz regardless to what clock i set it. I also don't notice a difference in battery consumption.
How can i check if the Dash is indeed OCed that what I set it to?

daleksic said:
I have set my Dash to 240MHz from i guess the standard 201MHz, however it doesn't seem to be any faster. I've tried multiple tasks at the same time and I just can't feel a difference in speed.
On the system info it always shows 201MHz regardless to what clock i set it. I also don't notice a difference in battery consumption.
How can i check if the Dash is indeed OCed that what I set it to?
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The only way is to look at OMAPClock I do believe.

daleksic said:
I have set my Dash to 240MHz from i guess the standard 201MHz, however it doesn't seem to be any faster. I've tried multiple tasks at the same time and I just can't feel a difference in speed.
On the system info it always shows 201MHz regardless to what clock i set it. I also don't notice a difference in battery consumption.
How can i check if the Dash is indeed OCed that what I set it to?
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The only way I know is to go back into OMAPClock and check what setting you have it on. I don't know of a way to see the current clock settings. I can say this-- Your phone's speed greatly depends on the number of applications and programs you have running simultaneously. If you have a lot of stuff going on at once, then you may not notice the difference in speed from 201mhz because the 240mhz is absorbing all of this activity. I noticed a change in my phone's speed when I first o/ced it (significant enough for me to notice a difference), but after a while my S620 became loaded down with all kinds of programs as I began exploring the wonderful world of modding. Now it runs at a decent speed.

I keep my phone very light. Only on there what I really use. The OMAP says 240. I'll keep it at 240 for now and see what happens. If I can see reduced Battery life over the next few weeks I guess it must be working. I'm not sure if I can go 1 step higher.
My old dash burned out on a hot Florida Spring day with a (I believe 252 OC). So I'm also kinda worried about the heat (internal/external), but as far as I read everything should be just fine at 240MHz.

you can benchmark it using sktools

Please give path to the OMAPClock? Thanks!

runningerin said:
Please give path to the OMAPClock? Thanks!
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Start -> Accessories -> OMAPClock

you can also just open up tcpmp player and go to options > settings. it wil show your clock speed

Thanks! I found it in tcpmp!

runningerin said:
Thanks! I found it in tcpmp!
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It runs stable at 240MHz

I have read every thread I could find on overclocking the Dash here in xda. I have T-Mobile 6.0 Standard and would like to overclock. Could some helpful person please tell me which program(s) I need to do this? I'm assuming OMAPClock (which version?) and anything else? My Dash is app unlocked already. Thanks in advance!

wm6.1 coming with a lot of feature inside how omapclock, install it.
runningerin said:
I have read every thread I could find on overclocking the Dash here in xda. I have T-Mobile 6.0 Standard and would like to overclock. Could some helpful person please tell me which program(s) I need to do this? I'm assuming OMAPClock (which version?) and anything else? My Dash is app unlocked already. Thanks in advance!
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I'm not quite ready to upgrade to WM 6.1 with some problems I've read about. I did, though, download OMAPCLock and it works great! The small problem is that it is buried in File Explorer, and I would like a shortcut on the Start Menu. Not being a programmer (like most of you), I don't know what "arguments, file paths, etc." are. I can't copy and paste to Windows\Start Menu cuz it won't let me. Is there another way without getting Total Commander cuz I don't really want to keep adding programs to my Dash that aren't absolutely necessary?

Never mind. The Surreal Networks OMAPCLock app gives me the Start Menu shortcut and Homescreen Icon. The first OMAP program I dl'd was from freeware.com and will not delete. It says there is a sharing violation. Anyone know how I can get it off my phone?

mssmison did it!: CyanogenMod 5.07 test 3. for kaiser!

wifi working with patch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=325161&d=1273647492
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679680

could someone resize it to 240x320 please? cant wait to try this

Heads up! New Kaiser Wifi update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6456191&postcount=33
Old one replaced build.prop with wrong version. Reinstall and use the new Wifi update.
Also to get rid of android-rebooting-problems with GPS Test application do the following:
1. Start terminal emulator
2. su
3. cd system/lib/hw
4. rwsystem
5. rm sensors.msm7k.so
6. rosystem
7. exit
8. exit
9. restart phone

So how is it? I'm too lazy to install it.

Dukenukemx said:
So how is it? I'm too lazy to install it.
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Seems like a really nice build. I'm using 320x428 with 144 dpi. A bit slow because I'm currently not running in NAND but I would expect it to perform quite well once I go back to running NAND again.
I haven't tested it very much yet as I'm doing some experiments in WinMO at the moment.

just tried
hey
i just downloaded this and i have to say im impressed about this.
as i love the eclair design and everything and the donut speed i have to say this is impressing because it is FAST! not as fast as donut but pretty much the same. that could be due to the 500 mHz OC but i just like that build.
just needs to be optimized a bit, maybe a few apps like astro and others
and as the developer has a new phone we need a new one.
But i have to say its awesome!
i love it already and just tried it for 9 min.
just the OC needs to be removed i noticed right now and is there any way to set another value for the screen sensebility because quiet often it does not react on a touch.
so keep updating this!
nick

nice rom but it chews through battery like crazy. With a full charge battery will drop from 99 to 75(battery fix removed OC and set 1400 value) with just a 10min phone call and a couple txts. I think what we need is a new kernel highly optimized for battery life using the latest patches. Judging from the name alone of the kernel its running right now 2.6.25-01051-gc362ac-dirty and the fact that 2.6.25 was released in jul 2008 i think theres room for tons for improvement.
Does anyone know how to adjust the microphone gain? my friends complain they cant hear me..

The wifi scan interval is set to 15 seconds by default in this release. That will have a negative effect on battery life if you are out of range of a known network and have wifi enabled. I'll put together an update to change this when time allows. I use 120 seconds myself.

kallt_kaffe said:
The wifi scan interval is set to 15 seconds by default in this release. That will have a negative effect on battery life if you are out of range of a known network and have wifi enabled. I'll put together an update to change this when time allows. I use 120 seconds myself.
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Thanks to update.
It working good on Polaris.
Also i change interval to 180 and density to 120 in .prop

Here's an update that changes the wifi scan delay to 120 seconds and also (not tested yet) changes the model name from Vogue to Kaiser.

i'm still trying to figure out if it's possible, somehow, to flash an update.zip file (to be able to use the cyanogenmod skins) with the nomorootfs we're using, instead of converting the skins to metamorph format
does anyone know if it's possible or how to do it?

Can't get wifi to work with updates, which one should I need?

kallt_kaffe's works for me. If something isn't working like it should, power off the phone and remove the battery. Then hold down the power button to remove any remaining power left. Place batter back in and try again.
Also, make sure to always fix permissions when you apply updates, even for wifi.

Dukenukemx said:
kallt_kaffe's works for me. If something isn't working like it should, power off the phone and remove the battery. Then hold down the power button to remove any remaining power left. Place batter back in and try again.
Also, make sure to always fix permissions when you apply updates, even for wifi.
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edit: how stupid can I be? I've bought another phone and forgot to add the mac adress.

Certainly think mod needs work. So far the battery meter is off, and all this time I thought it drained less power. A lot of pop ups to force close apps. A lot of apps are running that I don't use.
mssmison didn't say he was going to put any more effort into it either. Hopefully, someone will pick it up.

Dukenukemx said:
Certainly think mod needs work. So far the battery meter is off, and all this time I thought it drained less power.
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Try deleting /data/system/batterystats.bin. That usually helps when the batterymeter has gone bad.
A lot of pop ups to force close apps. A lot of apps are running that I don't use.
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Have you removed or renamed /lib/modules/hw/sensors.msm7k.so? After I removed that it runs very stable for me.

kallt_kaffe how do you do it?
I'm new to the androidinstall.tar method. I'm tyring to run from haret but it seems impossible.
You said you where experimenting with something in winmo, so that implies you're using haret? Are you running from haret?
When I try, Polymod, and Mssmission they don't show an install option, when I try myn and incubus I get it installed but I get no sound. It was actually your gps kernel that let me get things installed all other kernels i tried had non-functional dpads within the installer environment. Also, trying another kernel once installed didn't fix the sound issue.
Anyhow just let me know if you're using Haret. I wonder whats up with the sound and missing install option. I tried the install two different ways one with a 2gb fat32 partition, and then another attempt using three primary partitions 1.3gb fat32, 300mb ext, 300mb ext. All installers then would give me options beside's fat, but not all intallers would have an install option.. I'm using radio 1.71.09.01.eMo, model: kais100, os: wm6.5 (shifu v.3)

kallt_kaffe said:
Have you removed or renamed /lib/modules/hw/sensors.msm7k.so? After I removed that it runs very stable for me.
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I try start Skyforce game, but it forceclose.
It can work after i added "sensors.sapphire.so" into /lib/modules/hw/

I've installed the cyanogenMod updater from the marketplace, but it can only find older versions, no experimental versions, whatever option I set in the program.Anyone?

Dukenukemx said:
Certainly think mod needs work. So far the battery meter is off, and all this time I thought it drained less power. A lot of pop ups to force close apps. A lot of apps are running that I don't use.
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battery life has been fantastic for me on this build...
although I reverted back to 400mhz and got rid of compcache.
I am sure that OCing to 500 by default is draining the battery faster.
I would rather a usable phone than a fast one...(although it still seems very fast to me)

Autokiller memory optimizer.

Hi i found an app called auto killer memory which ive been running for a while. this app has worked wonders for my wilderbeast, its on fire. so ive been tampering alot with things but this seems to have stabalised my phone loads. presets i set to lost, enabled advance mode,apply at boot,ticked all system tweaks and of course when promted enabled super user. my phone is now running sweet and battery has improved too. i dont know if this makes any sense but i have noticed a difference. whoop whoop. am i over optimistic that this works the same as the v6 super charger/juwes ram optimiser ???
Ok I've ammended my settings within this app after doing some research And in memory values I'm now running at 6/10/16/100/120/160 to keep my phone running snappppppy. To explain the values in brief...... if free memory goes below 160mb my phone starts to kill empty apps etc etc as free memory goes below next value the phone starts to kill corresponding apps. Kind of makes sense to me now. Ok I know my settings makes the phone kill more frequently but its damn snappy now,and it can lower the oom settings by long pressing the app in processes section you wish to lower and choosing lower oom. Lowering the oom basically gives the app less chance of being killed.

Personally I haven't had a low memory situation since I rooted and installed cm7, the app your talking about I have installed after reading one of your other posts about it, I presume that it would work the same way as juwes after setting the low memory values, I don't use those settings with it though as I have juwes script installed, the other tweaks seem fine but again I think I had some of them covered from editing my build.prop (still have work to do on that though) and a few other little things, I can't knock this app though as it does seem to have made my battery last a bit longer since installing yesterday, I'd personally rather change the settings myself than have yet another app doing it for me but until I figure which setting seems to be helping my battery out I'll keep it installed.
A couple of other apps which might help you keep it smooth,
Autostarts- I swear by this app its one of my best buys from the market, why use a task killer when you can just stop the app starting in the first place??
Fast reboot pro- after time apps hold memory which they don't really need, hit this and it'll quickly reboot everything (unless you tell it to leave something alone) freeing up spare ram.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

Cheers for info,really happy with this app at the moment.by the sounds of things its doing similar job to other script mods,which I can't get working cos of s - off issue. Posted this for s on users benefit. Hope it helps others.

Edit my settings. Read 1st post.
sent from my wilderbeast/buzz

The only problems I see with having higher settings are if it closes something you use regular it'll be slower to open that app, I'd rather keep them set low and have apps open quickly.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

Scratch0805 said:
The only problems I see with having higher settings are if it closes something you use regular it'll be slower to open that app, I'd rather keep them set low and have apps open quickly.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium
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I agree but this app lets you temporary lower the oom level for apps,so I just lower oom on most important. Long click on process or service and to lower.
sent from my wilderbeast/buzz

Does it?..........I didn't spot that nice find!!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

Yep,long click app in service or process then choose to lower oom.it resets if you reboot so get your settings desired then leave by pressing home button.
sent from my wilderbeast:buzz

whats up with these settings for the pages? what do these settings change?
atm i have these settings:
2560
4096
25600
30720
40960

gozzaa said:
whats up with these settings for the pages? what do these settings change?
atm i have these settings:
2560
4096
25600
30720
40960
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Change the view from pages to mb and these are the values when it will start killing processes etc. Ie. When your memory gets to the amount your phone starts freeing up starting with the highest setting (empty apps)
Its all explained above,just that you have the pages view instead of mbs.
Quote " its healthy to have enemies, it means you've stood up for something you believe in "

ahh the pagesettings are the same as the MB ones?
i thought its two different things
thanks for the explanation!
btw. do you still use the same settings?

Yes to this day I still use this app even though I'm now s-off with the settings I posted,I will just double check and ammend if needed on 1st post.
" once its gone,its GONE."

slymobi said:
am i over optimistic that this works the same as the v6 super charger/juwes ram optimiser ???
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I used to use that too and I felt some differance too but I think you have to open the program every boot. But some told me that it isn't just powerful as Supercharger so I deleted the optimiser and tried Supercharged and got a bootloop instead. I didn't get it to work but I believe that Supercharger is a better solution.

zephyri-xr said:
I used to use that too and I felt some differance too but I think you have to open the program every boot. But some told me that it isn't just powerful as Supercharger so I deleted the optimiser and tried Supercharged and got a bootloop instead. I didn't get it to work but I believe that Supercharger is a better solution.
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i tried supercharger and juuwes but had issues which i think were specific to me but one of the issues was bootlooping from supercharger as well as other things. im not saying one is better than the other but as you and myself had issues with one of the mods then its an alternative for others to use. i prefer this as you get to control the settings and mods yourself from the app. also this is available for s-on whilst the others i believe need s-off.

zephyri-xr said:
I used to use that too and I felt some differance too but I think you have to open the program every boot. But some told me that it isn't just powerful as Supercharger so I deleted the optimiser and tried Supercharged and got a bootloop instead. I didn't get it to work but I believe that Supercharger is a better solution.
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I got a boot loop from supercharger. I had to wipe my phone and start again from an RUU as all my previous backups became corrupted. Nightmare. TBH in the few days that it did work, i saw/felt no difference.
Using CM_7.1.0.1 probably wouldnt advise to use the supercharge, CM_7 minfree values are set to a pretty good level to keep things in order i think

slymobi said:
Hi i found an app called auto killer memory which ive been running for a while. this app has worked wonders for my wilderbeast, its on fire. so ive been tampering alot with things but this seems to have stabalised my phone loads. presets i set to lost, enabled advance mode,apply at boot,ticked all system tweaks and of course when promted enabled super user. my phone is now running sweet and battery has improved too. i dont know if this makes any sense but i have noticed a difference. whoop whoop. am i over optimistic that this works the same as the v6 super charger/juwes ram optimiser ???
Ok I've ammended my settings within this app after doing some research And in memory values I'm now running at 6/10/16/100/120/160 to keep my phone running snappppppy. To explain the values in brief...... if free memory goes below 160mb my phone starts to kill empty apps etc etc as free memory goes below next value the phone starts to kill corresponding apps. Kind of makes sense to me now. Ok I know my settings makes the phone kill more frequently but its damn snappy now,and it can lower the oom settings by long pressing the app in processes section you wish to lower and choosing lower oom. Lowering the oom basically gives the app less chance of being killed.
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I have tried supercharge script and does make phone smooth. Also Ive use ram manager new app and that too made phone smooth. But this app (Pro) is so far great. I tried out your settings for now to see if it suits me and had the app for an hour and the phone is very snappy and smooth (which is most important to me). I hope there is a slight battery improvement that many have said on the net but will test more and will leave feed back. A big thx m8!

no probs mate, like i said i have tried the lot and this one for me is really good and you get to be the controller lol.the only drawback i have noticed is that it takes a little longer for the phone to boot after a reboot but !!!!! im ok with that.

LMFAO looks like I didn't pay enough attention... I've used a lot of tweaks already to make my Willy faster, more snappy and stable but to be honest nothing gave it such a boost like that
BTW: are you still using the settings of the op?
Holy crap, I've read that really often here and elsewhere but it's the first it applies to myself: feels like a new phone

eventcom said:
LMFAO looks like I didn't pay enough attention... I've used a lot of tweaks already to make my Willy faster, more snappy and stable but to be honest nothing gave it such a boost like that
BTW: are you still using the settings of the op?
Holy crap, I've read that really often here and elsewhere but it's the first it applies to myself: feels like a new phone
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I use aggressive setting mostly, all advanced tweaks except sdcard boost one as this bumps read ahead up to 2048, just my preference you might prefer 2048.
Say oooh la la

slymobi said:
I use aggressive setting mostly, all advanced tweaks except sdcard boost one as this bumps read ahead up to 2048, just my preference you might prefer 2048
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I see. I just have to sort things out now. Regarding the SD card read - I have it already done by sdbooster (@2048) - I'm at a point where I should make a documentation to stay on track and to avoid double tweaks lol.
I'm also very interested into scratch's build.prop lol (guess that would help to drop even more tweaks). Thx again - I've not forgotten about your tip re. AMO - just shifted it too far lol.

[SHARE] Battery Saving Techniques!

NOTE: Im turning this into a sharing thread where everybody can post and share their techniques on how they save battery consumption. I'll quote all the useful suggestions here in the first post
I would like to start off by saying that all ROMs basically consume badly just like the stock version. There could be little to no differences between them with regards to battery performance. Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance.
glennlevi's Technique:
1. Get Antutu Battery Saver Pro (Free version can be found in the market). Install and untick the option control cpu speed.
2. Using No Frills CPU, or any other built-in cpu settings app, select your default governor (bcm####) and sio as your I/O scheduler. Maximum Frequency should be your highest available, and Minimum Frequency your lowest available.
3. Manually adjust screen brightness in settings to about 20%.
4. Untick Background Data and Auto Sync in settings, under Accounts and Sync Settings.
5. Get Ram Booster (Free in market) and install. Open. Under settings, set Boost Level to aggresive, set whitelist apps and tick your launcher, sms app, keyboard, and Ram Booster and Antutu Battery Saver. Untick Show Overlay Widget in Overlay Widget Settings. Enable the widget in the notification bar, refresh every 5s, Report Style Dont Show. Under Advanced Settings, set Feedback to None. Clean Ram using this app everytime just before you turn off your screen or want to stop using your phone.
6. Drag down your notification bar and tap the Ram Booster Notification. Now wait a couple of mins while browsing through your phone (without opening any apps)
*You can use other task killers if you want, but Ram Booster is the best IMO. A better replacement however is 360 launcher's cleaner widget (which will save more memory, ram and battery usage since its all in one app)
7. Open settings and go to Applications>Running Processes and look at all running apps, you will see some auto-start apps like Beats Audio, DSP Manager, Google Mail, Google Maps, Google Playstore and others. Uninstall all user apps that have autostarted. Download Titanium Backup and use it to uninstall stock bloatware, like google maps and google mail, or other custom bloatware like Beats Audio (If you dont use them at all). Clean Dalvik Cache using Titanium Backup and Clean Cache using Ram Booster. Freeze seldom used apps like Google Playstore. Just unfreeze when you want to use them.
*You can use other apps like Root Uninstaller to remove system apps, but IMO Titanium Backup is the easiest to use and has one of the most functions.
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Imacatlover's tips:
Imacatlover said:
The best way to save battery is really to know your fone.
1. any type of widget should be avoided( except maybe clock) as they are juice hoggers.
2. ANY app that suggest or implies that they save battery defeats their own purpose for they themselves consume battery life...figures.
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
5. keep most settings to a minimum.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..
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irfanbagus' tips
irfanbagus said:
i do. well, not full kernel, just kernel module. search bacem-tweak in dev section. but i find that the best thing you can do to save battery is keep your phone sleep as long as possible. that's means remove bloatware, limit installed app with service, and only turn data/wifi when needed. combine with undervoltage, usually i got 3-4 days in single charge. in some very rare condition i got 6-7 days.
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There you go! Have a blazing fast and battery healthy SGY!

i'll try that as soon as i can

OxygeenHD said:
i'll try that as soon as i can
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Just to be clear, using Titanium Backup and changing CPU settings requires a rooted phone
Well, most custom roms are rooted anyways. Im just saying this cuz you might be running on stock rom

Nice tutorial :good: :good: :good:

Good one thanks mate xD

I'd like to confirm a few things. some of info on this thread is never heard.
glennlevi said:
2. Using No Frills CPU, or any other built-in cpu settings app, select your default governor (bcm####) and sio as your I/O scheduler. Maximum Frequency should be your highest available, and Minimum Frequency your lowest available.
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bcm work almost like performance gov. are sure about it?
5. Get Ram Booster (Free in market) and install. Open. Under settings, set Boost Level to aggresive, set whitelist apps and tick your launcher, sms app, keyboard, and Ram Booster and Antutu Battery Saver. Untick Show Overlay Widget in Overlay Widget Settings. Enable the widget in the notification bar, refresh every 5s, Report Style Dont Show. Under Advanced Settings, set Feedback to None. Clean Ram using this app everytime just before you turn off your screen or want to stop using your phone.
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is this information have been confirmed? as far as I know fewer widget is low ram consuming and more battery friendly. notification will prevent your device sleep. notification for every 5 second?it will make your battery life decreased, a lot. on other hand, clean ram have been proved consume huge battery power.
6. Drag down your notification bar and tap the Ram Booster Notification. Now wait a couple of mins while browsing through your phone (without opening any apps)
*You can use other task killers if you want, but Ram Booster is the best IMO. A better replacement however is 360 launcher's cleaner widget (which will save more memory, ram and battery usage since its all in one app)
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why should I use it when android have it's own task killer.?
7. Open settings and go to Applications>Running Processes and look at all running apps, you will see some auto-start apps like Beats Audio, DSP Manager, Google Mail, Google Maps, Google Playstore and others. Uninstall all user apps that have autostarted. Download Titanium Backup and use it to uninstall stock bloatware, like google maps and google mail, or other custom bloatware like Beats Audio (If you dont use them at all). Clean Dalvik Cache using Titanium Backup and Clean Cache using Ram Booster. Freeze seldom used apps like Google Playstore. Just unfreeze when you want to use them.
*You can use other apps like Root Uninstaller to remove system apps, but IMO Titanium Backup is the easiest to use and has one of the most functions.
There you go! Have a blazing fast and battery healthy SGY!
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most android app work with autostart. in fact, all you can see in android is actually an app. debloatware is a good recommendation, but a complete app removing? please make sure about the validity of these information.

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kurotsugi said:
I'd like to confirm a few things. some of info on this thread is never heard. bcm work almost like performance gov. are sure about it?
is this information have been confirmed? as far as I know fewer widget is low ram consuming and more battery friendly. notification will prevent your device sleep. notification for every 5 second?it will make your battery life decreased, a lot. on other hand, clean ram have been proved consume huge battery power.
why should I use it when android have it's own task killer.?
most android app work with autostart. in fact, all you can see in android is actually an app. debloatware is a good recommendation, but a complete app removing? please make sure about the validity of these information.
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First off I would like to quote myself -
"Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance."
As such, Im sharing this because
1. I think it might help other people.
2. I've tried it and compared it many times in many different rom, and what I recommend is based from my own experience
3. I know youre a dev. Im not, obviously. That doesnt mean I cant share what I think is useful. This is also backed up by the fact that Im not claiming Im sure that these actually work and that I can back it up with additional information. Again, this is just based on my experience.
again I would like to repeat the quotation from myself:
"Right now I would like to share my observation, on what I presume to be one of the best ways to save battery while maintaining good performance."
There you go. I hope that clears it all up. So please dont pick on me or anything just because Im not a dev. Thank you.

nope...I never intended to pick on you. I'm just feeding up my curiosity. I'm sorry if you feel like that.

thanks for sharing we need tat support...other be frank..be opened for sharing..
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app

kurotsugi said:
nope...I never intended to pick on you. I'm just feeding up my curiosity. I'm sorry if you feel like that.
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Well, thanks anyways for noticing my thread. Now I know some of my suggestions may be far from the theoretical facts that you know, but there are times when actually testing something and comparing it with others yield better results than just looking up the figures. Thats just my take on it though, so Im not saying thats all there is to it.
Anyway, maybe I'll edit this thread and make it a SHARING THREAD instead. I'll just regularly view it and put all suggestions that other members have in the first post

glennlevi said:
Well, thanks anyways for noticing my thread. Now I know some of my suggestions may be far from the theoretical facts that you know, but there are times when actually testing something and comparing it with others yield better results than just looking up the figures. Thats just my take on it though, so Im not saying thats all there is to it.
Anyway, maybe I'll edit this thread and make it a SHARING THREAD instead. I'll just regularly view it and put all suggestions that other members have in the first post
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The best way to save battery is really to know your fone.
1. any type of widget should be avoided( except maybe clock) as they are juice hoggers.
2. ANY app that suggest or implies that they save battery defeats their own purpose for they themselves consume battery life...figures.
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
5. keep most settings to a minimum.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..

good tutorial
I will try it
Thanks

Imacatlover said:
3. ANY app that has "killer" attached to it isn't really helpful because most of the app be it user or system just restarts after. Same goes for anything with "booster"..
4. Ram cleaner should suffice
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do you ever wonder how ram cleaner works ? by killing some applications. ram cleaner = task killer.
6. Accept the fact that our little fone has one crappy battery construction..
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not that crap if you realize it's 2011 android phone with $120 price. right now with that money you can find a lot better phone, but in late of 2011 there is only few choice on that price range.

Please share your battery saving techniques and tips here! I will add the good ones on the first post with quotation.
Probably when there are already a lot, I will compile all tips to make one big guide which has been contributed by the whole community. Lets work together on this

irfanbagus said:
do you ever wonder how ram cleaner works ? by killing some applications. ram cleaner = task killer.
not that crap if you realize it's 2011 android phone with $120 price. right now with that money you can find a lot better phone, but in late of 2011 there is only few choice on that price range.
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hmm... seems legit
Cant argue with you on that, most apps are generally glorified task managers, there are a few good ones though.
That's why i'm planning to buy a new android this christmas, maybe S1 or S2 depending on my budget.

wonder why no one want to make a battery saver kernel than superspeed kernel...

Imacatlover said:
That's why i'm planning to buy a new android this christmas, maybe S1 or S2 depending on my budget.
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why not nexus phone ?
i do have plan to buy another android phone after i give my sgy to my girlfriend and back to my old rokr e6. but not this year. too much spending money for gadget this year.
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wonder why no one want to make a battery saver kernel than superspeed kernel...
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i do. well, not full kernel, just kernel module. search bacem-tweak in dev section. but i find that the best thing you can do to save battery is keep your phone sleep as long as possible. that's means remove bloatware, limit installed app with service, and only turn data/wifi when needed. combine with undervoltage, usually i got 3-4 days in single charge. in some very rare condition i got 6-7 days.

irfanbagus said:
why not nexus phone ?
i do have plan to buy another android phone after i give my sgy to my girlfriend and back to my old rokr e6. but not this year. too much spending .
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Sir i want to ask you onething, offtopic, in nexus there is no memorycard slot, so we have to keep all data including gallery files and even a new rom in phone memory. If we want to flash a new rom, then how can we do that? While we wipe the data and cache before flashing all data will be deleted? The rom file too?.
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I am using juice defender, i think it's good.
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[ALL ROMS][HOW-TO]Speed Up & Maintain - [CM-7/9/10/10.1][UPDATED]

I know, many people here want to have Android 4.x.x on their phones, but unfortunately, because of low-end processor as well as less RAM, these CM10/CM10.1 ROMs are laggy and slow. I am also one of them, but, after using these type of roms since 4 months, I have now got a perfect idea of using them. So, I am sharing the way I use these roms. Many people told that this also helps for CM7 users. So, now I have declared this thread as UNIVERSAL PERFORMANCE THREAD. This method can be used on - Stock | CM7/9/10/10.1.
NOTE : This thread is mainly from galaxy mini forums. But, I have posted it here also, so that Gio users also get its benefits.
NOTE : This method is same for PAC ROMS.. because they are based on CM. So, you can use this on PAC ROMs also.
♦ FINDING STABLE VERSION :
First of all, you will need to find a good stable version of any CM7\CM9\CM10\CM10.1 ROM. Find stable version by asking in general discussion thread of those particular ROM and then download that version. But, do not flash now.. Follow next step.
Note : For CM7 users - Official CM7 is best, but if you want you can try it on custom roms also. If you are using CM7 custom or stock based custom rom, then for scripts n tweaks to work, you must delete all the scripts from init.d so that scripts will not get overridden.
♦ SLIMMING THE ROM :
Slimming means making rom size less by removing unwanted and unnecessary applications from system/app. It reduces system memory use. Here is a chart of cm10.1 apps which are safe to remove - LINK
With reference to that chart you should remove following apps with adding alternatives to them.
Note: Left side apps are to be removed and right side apps are alternatives.
● LatinIME.apk - WP7 Keyboard App
● Browser.apk - Holo Web Browser
● CMFileManager.apk - Root Explorer File Manager
● Trebuchet.apk - Holo Launcher
NOTE: On CM7, default ADW is good, but you can also use Holo Launcher.
Other apps that can be removed without alternatives-
● CalendarProvider.apk - One of the big RAM consuming apps. This app start anytime, you do anything, so it will be a big save of memory removing this app. But, you will get problems with calendar sync..
● GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter.apk - Reomove this only if you do not sync calendar.
● Email.apk - If not in use.
● Gmail.apk - If not in use.
● Talk.apk - If not in use.
● GoogleBackupTransport.apk - It is used in google backups, remove on your own risk. (Not a risk, i always remove it.)
● ChromeBookmarkSyncAdapter - No use.
● HTMLViewer.apk - Never needed.
● UserDictionaryProvider.apk - It is useless without LatinIME.apk.
● VisualizationWallpapers.apk - Wallpapers app. Remove it always.
● CMWallpapers - Remove it always.
● VoiceDialer.apk - Do you really use it?
● LiveWallpapers.apk - Dont you care for your battery?
● QuickSearchBox.apk - If you dont use.
● PicoTTS.apk - Text to speech function.
NOTE: Alternative apps should always be installed in system/app only. For that, I recommend you to remove these apps drectly from rom's zip before flashing.
♦ USE OF SCRIPTS N TWEAKS :
Many people use hard scripts n many tweaks to get good performance. But, it is totally wrong.
Highly recommended to use Activo Speeder. It is the best script for performance. Dont use anyother thing with it- such as ram manager, seeder or anyother script.
(Note: If the above script doesnt work on your device then please find another good script and flash it.)
IT IS RECOMMENDED TO USE SUPERCHARGER ON ICS\JB :
After testing a lot, I found that SuperCharger is the best script which can be used with any ROM to get more performance and for perfect RAM Management. Here are some steps on how to use SuperCharger -
● Here is the original thread for SuperCharger script.
● Script can be downloaded from this download page.
● Download latest script as well as starter package if needed (Read Original Thread).
● Now, for 4.x.x ROMs, you do not need to do anything with services.jar. But, for below 4.x.x, services.jar needs to be patched to get SuperCharger Memory Management working.
● Now, copy script to SDcard and run it with Script Manager as root. For more detailed guide plz prefer the original supercharger thread.
● Now, you are running the script. You will find many options and info on screen. Read it all and choose what you want.
NEW DISCOVERY : SUPERCHARGER + CROSSBREEDER = ULTIMATE PERFORMANCE WITH MAX ENTROPY ! - by Dark Passenger
● LINK FOR THE POST.
Here are some tweaks-
In Build.prop -
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Code:
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
and change the value from 0 to 1. (Add the line with proper value if does not exist)
This one is for battery saving.
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Code:
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit=48m
If it already exists then just match the values.
This is a VM Heap management for RAM.
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Code:
ro.ext4fs = 1
Improves EXT4 performance.
● IMP :
Add following lines below "# Other" in build.prop
Code:
ro.com.google.locationfeatures=0
ro.com.google.networklocation=0
(If exists, just change the values as above).
(Note: This one will remove location feature increasing performance freeing up more RAM. This frees up to 30mb of RAM)
And now remove NetworkLocation.apk from system/app as well as com.android.location.provider.jar from /system/framework.
For further build.prop tweaking, you can use this great guide -> Click Here. Thanks to Dark Passenger for some build.prop tweaks.
This much tweaking and scripting is enough. DONT USE TOO MUCH TWEAKS N SCRIPTS.
♦ BASIC APPS TO USE :
Your rom's performance also depends on the apps which you use. Always look for apps' memory usage and if the app consumes more ram then try to find an alternative app for it. Here are some basic apps which you should use (i always use them).
● Use Root Explorer as file manager, Holo Launcher as Launcher.
● Use Cache Cleaner App. It is must. Clean cache once a day.
● Use Root Cleaner App. A must have app. Do "Quick Cleaning" twice a day. It will regulate your performance.
You can also freeze the apps you are not using at that time, such as DSPManager (Unfreeze it only at the time of listening songs)
Freezing Google Apps will be a great way to reduce RAM consumption.
● Use this amazing app - Autostarts. This app controls the apps that start automatically in your phone. If you want settings which I use then PM me. I will tell you, how to use this app.
CLICK HERE FOR AUTOSTART APP SETTINGS
● ABOUT TASK KILLERS :
Using task killer is good but, it is also bad. Task killing is actually meaningless. Some apps never really get killed. They start again n again. So, use Autostarts instead task killers. But, here is a nice app for killing processes and freeing RAM. This is the original app. I have themed it to look good. Download it here.
Use it as a task killer, press menu button and include system processes and then start killing processes which are useless.
● Try to use apps as system apps.
● If you are using UC Browser then in its settings, check "Clear Data on Exit". If did, you will see UC will take less than 10mb but, if you wont do this, UC will take more than 15mb.
♦ IMPORTANT TIPS AND SETTINGS :
● Always flash rom with a clean wipe and proper flashing method.
● Do not flash gapps again if they are included in the rom.
● Do not flash internal memory scripts as they reduce performance.
● Use Adrenaline Boost. Boost once or twice a day. Boosting much will increase battery consumption.
● Use Root Cleaner app and freeze the apps which you are not using at that time. Freeze Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and other google apps which are always on. Unfreeze them when you want.
● The apps used for Backup purposes should not be installed always. Keep them in your sdcard and install them when you want and uninstall when done with them.
● Basic apps should always be in system/app.
● In Developer Options -
Set all animations scale to .5x
Set Background Process Limit to "Atmost 4 processes", if issues occur then set it back to "Standard Limit".
Enable "Kill App Back Button". Always use this feature to come out of the apps which do not really exit on pressing just back button.
● Do not expect much from our phone as it is not a high-end phone. Dont expect good battery life but, still to gain good battery life. Keep RAM free by using the ProcessKiller app as told above. I always get 170 mb RAM free.
● Do not charge battery until it gets discharged upto 10% or less. While charging do not remove it till it reaches 100% and 20 mins above that.
● Calibrate battery when needed.
● Avoid use of apps which are always running either in background or foreground.
● Press thanks. .

Thanks! I'm definetely going to try this out, even though I'm not running JB but ICS.
Deleting unneeded apps works on every Android version I think, and ActivoSpeeder works on ICS too, so I'm happy!

StiQuezNL said:
Thanks! I'm definetely going to try this out, even though I'm not running JB but ICS. Deleting unneeded apps works on every Android version I think, and ActivoSpeeder works on ICS too, so I'm happy!
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As I hv mentioned in the title.. this method is for all ROMs.. It is not needed that you should be running JB only.. it is for all...

Noobwithdumbquestions said:
this made everything a lot more laggy and gmail stopped syncing... Also takes about 3 times as long to boot.
No offence, but this is pretty terrible. And after doing some actual research a lot of the "tweaks" you talk about here are never proven effective and frowned upon by actual experts. Even in the article you linked the writer says that something like dalvik heapsize is not something you should or have to change.
I would advice anyone to NOT waste any time on this.
ps: the last part (under tips and settings) is actually some good advice, although the background process limit is not saved in CM10 (and the max.mem tweak doesnt work), so you'll need to do that everytime at startup
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please dude if you don't know how to tweak you can go i don't use this guide but it's a good one maybe you installed all those thing over a already tweaked rom, this guide if for clean stock, cm7/9/10/10.1

Nice guide...but I think you are wrong about the services.jar. You have to patch it when you use ICS or Jelly Bean, not on GB. And there is no Official CM7 on Gio.
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tcris45 said:
please dude if you don't know how to tweak you can go i don't use this guide but it's a good one maybe you installed all those thing over a already tweaked rom, this guide if for clean stock, cm7/9/10/10.1
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I applied it on a clean cm10.1 twice, had the same results, twice. I am not trying to talk down on someone elses work, but the fact is that some of the "tweaks" he talks about are never proven and often based on urban myths and the perception of people who applied them and saw improvement (placebo effect). fwiw, OP himself links to an article that busts some of the myths about tweaks, he tells people to apply...
So, maybe my device didnt start to lag more, in fact, it might have been more stable... however, setting the fs.file-max too big (as is one of the many things that activo script does) will make it less responsive, like there is a 100ms sleep between every action... I also experienced that with manual sysctl.
And some other tweaks that do work are still not great for everyone because they got other side effects that are not mentioned anywhere in this article. I got no idea why sync started giving errors and gmail stopped updating (twice) after these tweaks, but they did....
I am completely new to android, and should've done more research before blindly following some article that states to have some magical cure. But I am not new to linux and it seems this community suffers from the same kind of idiosyncrasies at the bottom end, where people constantly try to fix **** that isnt actually broken.
I'm talking about tweaks here obv, removing gapps. bloatware and lowering requirements for the OS is obv fine...
When someone's Gio lags, it's probably because they want to do stuff with it it's not made for, it's a slow device with minimal specs that does the pure core tasks as pda, phone, messenger and email, and as long as you do those it'll be fine. If you want more, buy a better phone. If it's that important to you and you dont have money, learn to appreciate what is actually important in life.
Nuff said.

Noobwithdumbquestions said:
I applied it on a clean cm10.1 twice, had the same results, twice. I am not trying to talk down on someone elses work, but the fact is that some of the "tweaks" he talks about are never proven and often based on urban myths and the perception of people who applied them and saw improvement (placebo effect). fwiw, OP himself links to an article that busts some of the myths about tweaks, he tells people to apply...
So, maybe my device didnt start to lag more, in fact, it might have been more stable... however, setting the fs.file-max too big (as is one of the many things that activo script does) will make it less responsive, like there is a 100ms sleep between every action... I also experienced that with manual sysctl.
And some other tweaks that do work are still not great for everyone because they got other side effects that are not mentioned anywhere in this article. I got no idea why sync started giving errors and gmail stopped updating (twice) after these tweaks, but they did....
I am completely new to android, and should've done more research before blindly following some article that states to have some magical cure. But I am not new to linux and it seems this community suffers from the same kind of idiosyncrasies at the bottom end, where people constantly try to fix **** that isnt actually broken.
I'm talking about tweaks here obv, removing gapps. bloatware and lowering requirements for the OS is obv fine...
When someone's Gio lags, it's probably because they want to do stuff with it it's not made for, it's a slow device with minimal specs that does the pure core tasks as pda, phone, messenger and email, and as long as you do those it'll be fine. If you want more, buy a better phone. If it's that important to you and you dont have money, learn to appreciate what is actually important in life.
Nuff said.
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Look in signature, this thread is also there for Fit as well as Mini and is getting good response all over.. but you are the first one to complain on this. My advice to you- DO NOT USE THIS DO NOT POST HERE!
Some of your sayings are correct but, still this is the best way to increase performance. You might have did something wrong because this has been researched by me and some other people that this guide is perfect for low activity devices like ace, fit, mini, but if you dont want to use then dont use. I have NO PROBLEM.(I really dont get money or anything for this). lol..

FlemishDroid said:
Nice guide...but I think you are wrong about the services.jar. You have to patch it when you use ICS or Jelly Bean, not on GB. And there is no Official CM7 on Gio.
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Yeah services.jar needs to be patched on ics and jellybean only. I didnt knew that official cm7 is not there for gio.. I dont own this device. sorry.

Noobwithdumbquestions said:
I applied it on a clean cm10.1 twice, had the same results, twice. I am not trying to talk down on someone elses work, but the fact is that some of the "tweaks" he talks about are never proven and often based on urban myths and the perception of people who applied them and saw improvement (placebo effect). fwiw, OP himself links to an article that busts some of the myths about tweaks, he tells people to apply...
So, maybe my device didnt start to lag more, in fact, it might have been more stable... however, setting the fs.file-max too big (as is one of the many things that activo script does) will make it less responsive, like there is a 100ms sleep between every action... I also experienced that with manual sysctl.
And some other tweaks that do work are still not great for everyone because they got other side effects that are not mentioned anywhere in this article. I got no idea why sync started giving errors and gmail stopped updating (twice) after these tweaks, but they did....
I am completely new to android, and should've done more research before blindly following some article that states to have some magical cure. But I am not new to linux and it seems this community suffers from the same kind of idiosyncrasies at the bottom end, where people constantly try to fix **** that isnt actually broken.
I'm talking about tweaks here obv, removing gapps. bloatware and lowering requirements for the OS is obv fine...
When someone's Gio lags, it's probably because they want to do stuff with it it's not made for, it's a slow device with minimal specs that does the pure core tasks as pda, phone, messenger and email, and as long as you do those it'll be fine. If you want more, buy a better phone. If it's that important to you and you dont have money, learn to appreciate what is actually important in life.
Nuff said.
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okay go step by step and tell me what is it that is actually bothering you about the tweaking.(talk only about supercharger method not activ speedo).
yes most of the tweaks are utter bull**** The tweaks in the op(build prop ones are actually proven read the article again).As for dalvik size its recommended to keep a size around 48 so that you processes don't need to split their dalvik heaps into two separate piles thus reducing ram consumption.

Dark Passenger said:
okay go step by step and tell me what is it that is actually bothering you about the tweaking.(talk only about supercharger method not activ speedo).
yes most of the tweaks are utter bull**** The tweaks in the op(build prop ones are actually proven read the article again).As for dalvik size its recommended to keep a size around 48 so that you processes don't need to split their dalvik heaps into two separate piles thus reducing ram consumption.
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I didnt use the supercharger method... The OP says the activo speedo is recommended, and the supercharger method is proposed as an alternative... I already said what problem I had with it (the response thing, and believe me or not, to me this difference is obvious and makes sense, I was able to reproduce it with just changing some of the same sysctl settings myself) but I wouldnt be surprised if there were more as it seems to do a buttload of things.
As far as the heapsize goes, I am not basing my conclusions on anything other than the OP's own link, which says things like:
dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit and dalvik.vm.heapsize - BUSTED,
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This is one property that has cropped up recently in various build.prop recommendations for ICS. Typical suggested values range from “48m” all the way up to “256m”, likely motivated by the common misconception that more is better. The real purpose of this property is much less obvious than one might initially guess. It is also another one you should probably avoid changing.
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Should you change this setting? Probably not.
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Maybe you are right, I dont know all the technical implications, and I got no way to check it other than to test it and I see no difference in ram consumption if I change this property.
The ro.power.dissable thing might shut off wifi when in deep sleep and jumps back to mobile (I think, it happened after applying all tweaks and it seems the most likely thing to do that), but whatever causes that, you should warn people about that sort of thing as it can cost them money..
I didnt use it for long and I'm not an expert, i'm just sharing my findings, people can make up their own mind about it and share their experiences as well..
OJ said:
Look in signature, this thread is also there for Fit as well as Mini and is getting good response all over.. but you are the first one to complain on this. My advice to you- DO NOT USE THIS DO NOT POST HERE!
Some of your sayings are correct but, still this is the best way to increase performance. You might have did something wrong because this has been researched by me and some other people that this guide is perfect for low activity devices like ace, fit, mini, but if you dont want to use then dont use. I have NO PROBLEM.(I really dont get money or anything for this). lol..
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Sorry, I didnt mean to offend you in any way and appreciate your effort... But telling me to stop posting just because I'm critical seems pretty backwards. If you only want people to say thanks and be greatful all the time, maybe you should start sharing horse pictures on a hello kitty forum...
I'm just sharing my experience and my problems might be related to my rom and it could very well work great on other phones or other roms... But I used a clean cm10.1, the CM10.1 rom almost everyone with a Gio uses, so I'd think it's still important to bring up my findings...

Noobwithdumbquestions said:
I didnt use the supercharger method... The OP says the activo speedo is recommended, and the supercharger method is proposed as an alternative... I already said what problem I had with it (the response thing, and believe me or not, to me this difference is obvious and makes sense, I was able to reproduce it with just changing some of the same sysctl settings myself) but I wouldnt be surprised if there were more as it seems to do a buttload of things.
As far as the heapsize goes, I am not basing my conclusions on anything other than the OP's own link, which says things like:
Maybe you are right, I dont know all the technical implications, and I got no way to check it other than to test it and I see no difference in ram consumption if I change this property.
The ro.power.dissable thing might shut off wifi when in deep sleep and jumps back to mobile (I think, it happened after applying all tweaks and it seems the most likely thing to do that), but whatever causes that, you should warn people about that sort of thing as it can cost them money..
I didnt use it for long and I'm not an expert, i'm just sharing my findings, people can make up their own mind about it and share their experiences as well..
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the ro.power.disable.ril actually causes the phones radio to go to sleep so if your mobile data is off there is no reason to switch on rather the wifi might switch off(devs already stated so) and again switch back on once you get out of deep sleep.
its a good thing that you are coming back to provide a feedback and is appreciated(at least should be).
the change for dalvik.vm larger than 48 only allows the heap to grow to that value then split into a new heap since we can't/shouldn't/don't use apps with such a large memory footprint the chances of a split occurring post 48mb(gb and below) and 64mb(ics and above) is highly unlikely hence the changing the value to a larger quantity will make no difference.
PS personally even i dont like activo mainly cause i dont know how it works rather i use supercharger and its a much better option in my opinion.

Sorry, I didnt mean to offend you in any way and appreciate your effort... But telling me to stop posting just because I'm critical seems pretty backwards. If you only want people to say thanks and be greatful all the time, maybe you should start sharing horse pictures on a hello kitty forum...
I'm just sharing my experience and my problems might be related to my rom and it could very well work great on other phones or other roms... But I used a clean cm10.1, the CM10.1 rom almost everyone with a Gio uses, so I'd think it's still important to bring up my findings...
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No, I already told you that many of your ideas are correct but, your way of expressing was not good.
Ex- You said that "Dont waste time on using this guide".
Now, if you think that was correct then please do not post again. If you are providing information then you can but, if you are telling people not to use this then dont post.
In fit's thread, Dark Passenger also wanted to express his ideas and wanted to help me. And I was happy about that. Because the way he helped me was like he really wanted to help. But, you was not polite as him.
You can ask Dark Passenger, there is a lot of information in the thread provided by him and I used that. And he never complained like you.
 @Dark Passenger, please explain him.

OJ said:
No, I already told you that many of your ideas are correct but, your way of expressing was not good.
Ex- You said that "Dont waste time on using this guide".
Now, if you think that was correct then please do not post again. If you are providing information then you can but, if you are telling people not to use this then dont post.
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Yeah, I was frustrated and my first response was not really fair. I agree.

Noobwithdumbquestions said:
Yeah, I was frustrated and my first response was not really fair. I agree.
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When you use ics or jelly bean you need supercharger script and a patched services.jar (it's easy to do) because any other script don't works 100 % on it.
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