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Alpha Testers Needed: TouchNav (Scroll with your fingers)

Hi All,
I have been working on an enhancement that allows scrolling from anywhere on the screen, not just using the scrollbars. The idea is to tweak the UI so that it functions more intuitively. This app is still in Alpha. However, for those that like this functionality and would like to help me with testing and provide me with good suggestions, that would be extremely appreciative.
Short Description
-Loads on startup and places an icon on the home screen.
-Currently, a flicker of the startup screen will appear during bootup.
-May not work at times on initial loading of a window.
User Guide
1) Install the cab and reboot the device.
2) Once the device boots up, you will notice a new icon, which is just a way for you to close the application if you want to.
3) Once everything the device loads, you can test the tweak by opening the "Programs" window
4) Try to use your finger to scroll as you would with the scrollbar.
I hope this explain things a little more.
Thank and enjoy. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Sorry everyone, I had to remove this cab. I will post up an update some time soon I hope.

Nice tweak
Count me in!
Edit : It's working great, only is it possible to delete the scrollbars?.
rathoughts said:
Hi All,
I have been working on an enhancement that allows scrolling from anywhere on the screen, not just using the scrollbars. The idea is to tweak the UI so that it functions more intuitively. This app is still in Alpha. However, for those that like this functionality and would like to help me with testing and provide me with good suggestions, that would be extremely appreciative.
Here is the run down on the app:
-Loads on startup and places an icon on the home screen.
-Currently, a flicker of the startup screen will appear during bootup.
-May not work at times on initial loading of a window.
Thank and enjoy. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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I've loaded, soft reset, the icon appeared at the home screen task bar. Clicked on the icon - a blank screen appeared and that's it....

Ronnymes;1415545 said:
Nice tweak
Count me in!
Edit : It's working great, only is it possible to delete the scrollbars?.
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Hi, there was a registry hack for WM5 to size the scrollbars..likely works in WM6, you could atleast make em smaller, if not size em out completely, I think, might give the wiki hacks a check, sorry I don't know it offhand.

User guide of sort
Sorry, should I posted a little description.
1) Install the cab and reboot the device.
2) Once the device boots up, you will notice a new icon, which is just a way for you to close the application if you want to.
3) Once everything the device loads, you can test the tweak by opening the "Programs" window
4) Try to use your finger to scroll as you would with the scrollbar.
I hope this explain things a little more.

rathoughts,
Thanks for the release, the program seems run quite stable, however, few problems I have noticed:
* Some programs work some don't (PIE for example).
* Some programs need to try few times to get it to work.
* Tap function doesnt work (you can scroll up/down nicely in standard contact, however, tap and hold doesnt work, menu doesnt pop up).
My recommendation is, maybe in the furture release, you could add an "exclusive list" function so programs in the list will have TouchNav disabled.
Please keep up your good work

Hi rathoughts, sounds like it might be kinda cool, I know shame on me for not just installing it and trying it out, but does this function with like a throw effect, for example, if I am scrolling, and I run my finger upwards on the screen and release without stopping my finger on the screen, it would keep scrolling by itself, I have a scroll effect with my finger using PIEPlus, but I can get up and down the page much faster with the scroll wheel, cause using my finger and moving from top to bottom of the screen is kinda slow when it comes to browsing here at XDA for example, gotta do it a whole bunch of times, its all good if not, I just thought I would ask.
Edit, nevermind....I just seen its not working in PIE, in the above post

Ronnymes said:
Nice tweak
Count me in!
Edit : It's working great, only is it possible to delete the scrollbars?.
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Thanks for the suggestion. That is what I am planning to do once things are more stable and complete.

RickyLan said:
rathoughts,
Thanks for the release, the program seems run quite stable, however, few problems I have noticed:
* Some programs work some don't (PIE for example).
* Some programs need to try few times to get it to work.
* Tap function doesnt work (you can scroll up/down nicely in standard contact, however, tap and hold doesnt work, menu doesnt pop up).
My recommendation is, maybe in the furture release, you could add an "exclusive list" function so programs in the list will have TouchNav disabled.
Please keep up your good work
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The tap and hold (context menu) issue is something I know about. I hope I can get that resolved so that it will allow this as well.

ChaoticDruid said:
Hi rathoughts, sounds like it might be kinda cool, I know shame on me for not just installing it and trying it out, but does this function with like a throw effect, for example, if I am scrolling, and I run my finger upwards on the screen and release without stopping my finger on the screen, it would keep scrolling by itself, I have a scroll effect with my finger using PIEPlus, but I can get up and down the page much faster with the scroll wheel, cause using my finger and moving from top to bottom of the screen is kinda slow when it comes to browsing here at XDA for example, gotta do it a whole bunch of times, its all good if not, I just thought I would ask.
Edit, nevermind....I just seen its not working in PIE, in the above post
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That is the idea for the next release.

Sweet, thanks for the reply, I swear Im surprised my scrollwheel still functions.

Really nice job!
This is the functionnality I really expected from TouchFlo better than the 3D cube!
I thought about working on such a program if TouchFlo technology couldn't be ported to Hermes, so I would gladly help you to work on this project if you want!
It would be nice if it supports scrolling accelerations and free scrolling (when you release the finger) like on Touch!

schaps said:
Really nice job!
This is the functionnality I really expected from TouchFlo better than the 3D cube!
I thought about working on such a program if TouchFlo technology couldn't be ported to Hermes, so I would gladly help you to work on this project if you want!
It would be nice if it supports scrolling accelerations and free scrolling (when you release the finger) like on Touch!
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Cool. I hope that offer is sincere b/c I may take you up on that offer

schaps said:
Really nice job!
This is the functionnality I really expected from TouchFlo better than the 3D cube!
I thought about working on such a program if TouchFlo technology couldn't be ported to Hermes, so I would gladly help you to work on this project if you want!
It would be nice if it supports scrolling accelerations and free scrolling (when you release the finger) like on Touch!
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Free scrolling is the next thing to be....very nice work dude

ChaoticDruid said:
I have a scroll effect with my finger using PIEPlus, but I can get up and down the page much faster with the scroll wheel, cause using my finger and moving from top to bottom of the screen is kinda slow when it comes to browsing here at XDA for example, gotta do it a whole bunch of times
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go into your PIE+ option for scroll, and increase the screen drag sensitivity.

I think I remember reading(haven't installed yet) that the scrolling is opposite from what we are used to?
Such as it should be like "dragging" so bottom to top would make it scroll downwards. Is it like this?

deadeyed;1416391 said:
go into your PIE+ option for scroll, and increase the screen drag sensitivity.
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Sorry to wander offtopic, but thanks!
I had always just thought that related to pressure sensitivity for some dumb reason, and never tried it.

great work !!!im using PocketCM v0.6 and it screws up the scrolling in contacts ,otherwise awesome stuff.

It will be good if it's functioning as smooth as PocketCM ContactManager 0.11 scrolling. Just tried it on Shcaps 3.57a but not as expected. Good luck on your programming and hope to here good news from you soon. You got my vote.

Tested on WM6
Hello,
Tested this on iMate JasJam WM6 LVSW
It works in Programs folder and File Explorer(the default one)
Tried in PIE, Opera and Resco Explorer and unfo didn't work.
While touching the screen , the program was selecting items on the screen and no chance of scrolling.
Keep up the good work.
Regards.

B&B 4 - X Button issues

Hey Everyone.
Im having some problems with the XButton in toms new B&B 4.
It seems really uggy, when i try to press it with my thumb to close apps down, it just doesnt close things at all and acts like i did not press the button. But when i press it with the stylus, it works everytime.
Sometimes, when i press the x button when in programs such as contacts etc, it thinks that i just clicked the menu button in the bottom right, or starts thinking iv clicked on a contacts name. But again, when i tap x with the stylus, it works fine.
It seems to me that the "touchable" area of the x button is set to a small "stylus" sized touch. Not a larger thumb sized touch?
Anyone else with this problem?

same problem

read thru the B&B 4 thread. This issue of the X button has been addressed.

Ok - Read through the thread, even used search but could not find anyone stating this was fixed?
Could anyone point me to a post? I genuinly have looked through the thread.

Possibly solved this.
I downloaded and installed the latest HTC X-Button 1.51.
This *so far* has seemed to solve the x button issue.
The HTC X-Button 1.51 is attached, just copy to your device and run it.

Yep this has pretty much solved the x button issue for me.

In B&B 4 in the X Button options is selected by default "End programs by tapping and holding X". If you change the option to "End programs by tapping X" should be ok.

Hey
No it wasnt that. It just wasnt letting me tap the x button at all with my thumb. like i said, it worked fine with the stylus.
Anyways, updated to xbutton 1.51 and it seems to have done the trick.

hi mates!
i have flashed the B&B 4.0 fom tom_condon (Great Great work dude!!!!) and updated the htc X-Button to the last version and have a problem:
some of the icons of top right of the screen just disapear. You can't see them but they still there (you can tap them).
Take a look to the screenshot and you will see what I mean (because if you have to understand my english, you're in big troubles )
thnx in advance
P.D. Sorry again for my poor english

whats xbutton version?
The one i posted? You should soft reset the device after installed.

moonshadow88 said:
hi mates!
i have flashed the B&B 4.0 fom tom_condon (Great Great work dude!!!!) and updated the htc X-Button to the last version and have a problem:
some of the icons of top right of the screen just disapear. You can't see them but they still there (you can tap them).
Take a look to the screenshot and you will see what I mean (because if you have to understand my english, you're in big troubles )
thnx in advance
P.D. Sorry again for my poor english
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It not HTC X-button.U already used Pbar by Mr.NNCuong from pdaviet..!

moonshadow88 said:
hi mates!
i have flashed the B&B 4.0 fom tom_condon (Great Great work dude!!!!) and updated the htc X-Button to the last version and have a problem:
some of the icons of top right of the screen just disapear. You can't see them but they still there (you can tap them).
Take a look to the screenshot and you will see what I mean (because if you have to understand my english, you're in big troubles )
thnx in advance
P.D. Sorry again for my poor english
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Hi Moonshadow,
See Toms reply.
Can I ask where you got the colours from on HTC Home. Nice. and 3d effect.

Johny1fin said:
Hi Moonshadow,
See Toms reply.
Can I ask where you got the colours from on HTC Home. Nice. and 3d effect.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1422707&postcount=464

moonshadow88 said:
hi mates!
i have flashed the B&B 4.0 fom tom_condon (Great Great work dude!!!!) and updated the htc X-Button to the last version and have a problem:
some of the icons of top right of the screen just disapear. You can't see them but they still there (you can tap them).
Take a look to the screenshot and you will see what I mean (because if you have to understand my english, you're in big troubles )
thnx in advance
P.D. Sorry again for my poor english
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hi mate
a quick question though, i saw on your screen shot, you have got coloured icons on htc home plugin, but mine are black and white, how can i change them to the coloured ones?
cheers
...... sorry, answer was just one post above mine, trying out the cab now.

arizhasan said:
hi mate
a quick question though, i saw on your screen shot, you have got coloured icons on htc home plugin, but mine are black and white, how can i change them to the coloured ones?
cheers
...... sorry, answer was just one post above mine, trying out the cab now.
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done!!! sure looks great

seems now after installing your cab file, i have the very same problem with 1st touchflo rom.
the x button does not work properly when i tap on x, it opens right softkey button..... how do i uninstall your cab

Landscape on the HD, how?

Hey everyone,
i just wanted to know, how can i make the HD's screen go Landscape whenever i want to?
tnx

Hi,install HD tweak,activate rotation screen ( 17.8) and choose left softkeys to rotate the screen . Otherwise you can use,gsen,gyrator,mobile magic to choose which application you want to rotate .

Thank you very much Marcdu81!!

But . . . Manila look like rubbish in landscape. Unless you have the newer version installed. Dutty 1.8 & 1.9 contain it. and the newer ROMs by more cooks have it in newest products. But the problem is, although it is faster, works in landscape and has a nice calendar tab, most mods and tweaks for the older Manila don't work for it; including like color topbar, 15 tabs, icons and backgroundforallpages don't work. So for time being its a mixed blessing. But give it a bit of time New versions of all the old tweaks and mods will be available eventually.

Hey
when i prees the option to rotate the screen to landscape mode, it works great, but after i get out of the "Settings" screen it goes back to portrate mode...
why is that?
is it any related to the device Rom?
the Rom version i have is 1.19.831.0
i dont know what Dutty Roms are...\=
thanks for your answers!

Hi, can somebody help me to answer my question?
I like to have a landscape theme (mode), but I don´t know how to do it.
I´ve heard, that there is no way to get a landscape unless I flash my phone to another rom, what I actually don´t want, because the phone is still under garanty.
Is it true or does it gives another way to get a landscape?

I would like this too, going landscape without having to install a new ROM or something.

I use AEB+ to map the OK button to rotate 90 degrees (and back) so with a double press on that key I get rotate whenever I want. I did not want an automatic rotate like with gyrator.
AEB+ is shareware but the non-registered works great and has almost 100% functionality:
http://ae.inc.ru

Thx for your Info,
but the rotation is not a propblem it´s an secondary issue.
I can rotate my screen, but than I will get just the half of the screen, means only the clock on the left side and on the other half side I don´t get anything.
So, the question is, is it possible to get a "theme" or a cab of "manilas" to have the possibility to change the screen with a nice view, without to change the rom?

[Theme] [PocketCM Keyboard] v1.11 [3/16/2009]

A PocketCM Keyboard .23+ WVGA theme I made for the large of finger so you can worry just about what you want to say instead of trying to spend all your time pecking at each key and getting it right.
Features:
Virtual D-Pad
Long press on any letter to get uppercase.
Long press on almost any key for quick access to similar symbols.
Shift button is caps lock.
I made every key as large (tall (with big layout and wide)) as possible.
Has larger room for correction / allowed mistakes than standard keyboard to allow for less pickiness on large screen (WVGA).
Landscape finally works.
English qwerty.
Optimized as much as possible (including all images) for speed and size of theme.
Hold "!" for "!! "
Hold "?" for "?? "
Hold "," for ".com"
Hold "$" for "€"
Only bugs / quirks I'm currently aware of:
Not sure of what the height for landscape should be. (If you are using a full screen app (such as PocketCM) the current height is great, otherwise..it takes up pretty much the whole screen. Easy to change. Go to settings.ini, and change the last value from 27p to something more like 23p.)
Correction currently will not go through when any symbol is entered. Suggestion will go through only when the following are pressed immediately after a word is entered
space
!
@
Based off Tene's dream theme, so looks are the same.
Credits to of course tene and and also zard for assistance with the virtual keys.
Credits also to MrHawaii of PPCGeeks for a few ideas.
UPDATE 3/16/2009 V1.11
Started over from scratch.
Removed "Hold space bar for ". " (period and double space)." temporarily until I hear further from Tene on how to make it work more correctly.
Made suggestion 19% more forgiving, allowing for 19% further displacement from correct key. Think that is the farthest I will go, though I can bump it up if requested.
Suggestion will currently (until I hear from tene on how to fix it) only go through on the following
space
!
@
UPDATE 3/11/2009 V1.1
Added:
Hold comma key for ".com"
Auto - double space inserted when period, exclamation mark, or question mark pressed.
Hold space bar for ". " (period and double space).
Fixed:
Correction now goes through even on ?!.,
(Isn't actually as blurry as it looks on the thumbnail)
PCMK can be found at pocketcm.com

Updated. Small fixes and enhancements. See OP.

Thanks!
Use it on my Touch HD and its working fine!

Install Help
How do I install this?

michedenhaag said:
Thanks!
Use it on my Touch HD and its working fine!
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Good to hear thx. Just re-uploaded, realized there was a small typo in the settings file, causing the "hold "!" for "!! " not to function.
ajhirsch said:
How do I install this?
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Have you installed pcm keyboard? This is merely a theme for the awesome SIP.
Go to pocketcm.com

what setting would I have to tweak to drop the spell box down a line or two...
tnx..

oogravyoo said:
what setting would I have to tweak to drop the spell box down a line or two...
tnx..
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No idea. Don't think that is up to the user or skinner.

hmm bummer, its half cut off on the Omnia..
this is using your skin btw..

oogravyoo said:
hmm bummer, its half cut off on the Omnia..
this is using your skin btw..
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That really all the information you're gonna give?
Lets have some details
What your default language is, what your screens resolution is (I'm not familiar enough w/ the omnia), what options you have selected in pcmk, a screenshot of the problem, what version of pcmk you are using, etc..

jim256 said:
That really all the information you're gonna give?
Lets have some details
What your default language is, what your screens resolution is (I'm not familiar enough w/ the omnia), what options you have selected in pcmk, a screenshot of the problem, what version of pcmk you are using, etc..
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PocketCM Keyboard ver EN.023
Omnia I910 screen resolution 240x400
Options in pcmk are @ default
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1114/omnia.jpg
actually the more I look at it Im going to guess it cant be moved as its stuck to the top of the text window.. would the adjustment of the last value in the setting.ini you mentioned above help this?
sorry for the lack of info prior..
tnx

oogravyoo said:
PocketCM Keyboard ver EN.023
Omnia I910 screen resolution 240x400
Options in pcmk are @ default
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1114/omnia.jpg
actually the more I look at it Im going to guess it cant be moved as its stuck to the top of the text window.. would the adjustment of the last value in the setting.ini you mentioned above help this?
sorry for the lack of info prior..
tnx
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Yep that's what's going to do it for you is just the height. I have it set for my device right now. The text box can't be moved / resized (except by tene), but if you lower the height of the whole keyboard then you should be good, I would recommend 24 or so.

jim256 said:
Yep that's what's going to do it for you is just the height. I have it set for my device right now. The text box can't be moved / resized (except by tene), but if you lower the height of the whole keyboard then you should be good, I would recommend 24 or so.
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Will give that a shot.. tnx for your input..

that did the trick! thanks again..

mur
tenx en tenx

Just wanted to mention, this works well on QVGA also.

Shift Key Graphics
Thanks .. this is a great theme!!
I see Shift key and up arrow key similar.. I just wanted to change shift key graphic to display "Sft" words in Image. I replaced shift.png in zip folder but it didnt work. How can I do this?

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Hi Jim,
Thanks for such a great theme! It's by far my favorite.
I was just wondering if you have released a new version of it since V1.11?
I'm not sure if I've found a bug, but, I've noticed that when I use any kind of punctuation (period, question mark, etc) it seems to be added to the beginning of the last word entered. For example instead of "I am home now.", I get "I am home .now". Is this behavior by design, or am I doing something wrong?
Thanks!

ima noob. how do you get your skin to take affect?

Just copy the zip file into the PCM Keyboard folder in Program Files, then in PCM k\'s option choose my theme and then the suitable layout.

Fullscreen HTC Sense

Fullscreen HTC Sense. Does a tweak/mod to get this exist? Is it possible?
Sometimes when stuff goes bugged this happens, but it looks so much better.

SaturnusDJ said:
Fullscreen HTC Sense. Does a tweak/mod to get this exist? Is it possible?
Sometimes when stuff goes bugged this happens, but it looks so much better.
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If you want to go fullscreen, why not try the Max sense edition(energy roms). I know it has its restrictions, but still.. Its pretty awesome!

SaturnusDJ said:
Fullscreen HTC Sense. Does a tweak/mod to get this exist? Is it possible?
Sometimes when stuff goes bugged this happens, but it looks so much better.
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There is the possibility to have the home page in fullscreen. You have to have CHT and CHT Editor installed if not already in the rom you are using.
[I guess that it is helpful when one asks for help to be more specific with device and rom so as to get more specific answers]
You have to enable the CHT Softkeys in softkeys under CHT Editor. That will make Home Screen and only Home Screen appear in fullscreen. The other tabs though will remain as are.
Hope that this will cover you if you haven't still found out an answer. Take care.

This is probably the closest thing to what you are asking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553529