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Alpha Testers Needed: TouchNav (Scroll with your fingers)

Hi All,
I have been working on an enhancement that allows scrolling from anywhere on the screen, not just using the scrollbars. The idea is to tweak the UI so that it functions more intuitively. This app is still in Alpha. However, for those that like this functionality and would like to help me with testing and provide me with good suggestions, that would be extremely appreciative.
Short Description
-Loads on startup and places an icon on the home screen.
-Currently, a flicker of the startup screen will appear during bootup.
-May not work at times on initial loading of a window.
User Guide
1) Install the cab and reboot the device.
2) Once the device boots up, you will notice a new icon, which is just a way for you to close the application if you want to.
3) Once everything the device loads, you can test the tweak by opening the "Programs" window
4) Try to use your finger to scroll as you would with the scrollbar.
I hope this explain things a little more.
Thank and enjoy. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
EDIT: Sorry everyone, I had to remove this cab. I will post up an update some time soon I hope.

Nice tweak
Count me in!
Edit : It's working great, only is it possible to delete the scrollbars?.
rathoughts said:
Hi All,
I have been working on an enhancement that allows scrolling from anywhere on the screen, not just using the scrollbars. The idea is to tweak the UI so that it functions more intuitively. This app is still in Alpha. However, for those that like this functionality and would like to help me with testing and provide me with good suggestions, that would be extremely appreciative.
Here is the run down on the app:
-Loads on startup and places an icon on the home screen.
-Currently, a flicker of the startup screen will appear during bootup.
-May not work at times on initial loading of a window.
Thank and enjoy. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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I've loaded, soft reset, the icon appeared at the home screen task bar. Clicked on the icon - a blank screen appeared and that's it....

Ronnymes;1415545 said:
Nice tweak
Count me in!
Edit : It's working great, only is it possible to delete the scrollbars?.
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Hi, there was a registry hack for WM5 to size the scrollbars..likely works in WM6, you could atleast make em smaller, if not size em out completely, I think, might give the wiki hacks a check, sorry I don't know it offhand.

User guide of sort
Sorry, should I posted a little description.
1) Install the cab and reboot the device.
2) Once the device boots up, you will notice a new icon, which is just a way for you to close the application if you want to.
3) Once everything the device loads, you can test the tweak by opening the "Programs" window
4) Try to use your finger to scroll as you would with the scrollbar.
I hope this explain things a little more.

rathoughts,
Thanks for the release, the program seems run quite stable, however, few problems I have noticed:
* Some programs work some don't (PIE for example).
* Some programs need to try few times to get it to work.
* Tap function doesnt work (you can scroll up/down nicely in standard contact, however, tap and hold doesnt work, menu doesnt pop up).
My recommendation is, maybe in the furture release, you could add an "exclusive list" function so programs in the list will have TouchNav disabled.
Please keep up your good work

Hi rathoughts, sounds like it might be kinda cool, I know shame on me for not just installing it and trying it out, but does this function with like a throw effect, for example, if I am scrolling, and I run my finger upwards on the screen and release without stopping my finger on the screen, it would keep scrolling by itself, I have a scroll effect with my finger using PIEPlus, but I can get up and down the page much faster with the scroll wheel, cause using my finger and moving from top to bottom of the screen is kinda slow when it comes to browsing here at XDA for example, gotta do it a whole bunch of times, its all good if not, I just thought I would ask.
Edit, nevermind....I just seen its not working in PIE, in the above post

Ronnymes said:
Nice tweak
Count me in!
Edit : It's working great, only is it possible to delete the scrollbars?.
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Thanks for the suggestion. That is what I am planning to do once things are more stable and complete.

RickyLan said:
rathoughts,
Thanks for the release, the program seems run quite stable, however, few problems I have noticed:
* Some programs work some don't (PIE for example).
* Some programs need to try few times to get it to work.
* Tap function doesnt work (you can scroll up/down nicely in standard contact, however, tap and hold doesnt work, menu doesnt pop up).
My recommendation is, maybe in the furture release, you could add an "exclusive list" function so programs in the list will have TouchNav disabled.
Please keep up your good work
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The tap and hold (context menu) issue is something I know about. I hope I can get that resolved so that it will allow this as well.

ChaoticDruid said:
Hi rathoughts, sounds like it might be kinda cool, I know shame on me for not just installing it and trying it out, but does this function with like a throw effect, for example, if I am scrolling, and I run my finger upwards on the screen and release without stopping my finger on the screen, it would keep scrolling by itself, I have a scroll effect with my finger using PIEPlus, but I can get up and down the page much faster with the scroll wheel, cause using my finger and moving from top to bottom of the screen is kinda slow when it comes to browsing here at XDA for example, gotta do it a whole bunch of times, its all good if not, I just thought I would ask.
Edit, nevermind....I just seen its not working in PIE, in the above post
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That is the idea for the next release.

Sweet, thanks for the reply, I swear Im surprised my scrollwheel still functions.

Really nice job!
This is the functionnality I really expected from TouchFlo better than the 3D cube!
I thought about working on such a program if TouchFlo technology couldn't be ported to Hermes, so I would gladly help you to work on this project if you want!
It would be nice if it supports scrolling accelerations and free scrolling (when you release the finger) like on Touch!

schaps said:
Really nice job!
This is the functionnality I really expected from TouchFlo better than the 3D cube!
I thought about working on such a program if TouchFlo technology couldn't be ported to Hermes, so I would gladly help you to work on this project if you want!
It would be nice if it supports scrolling accelerations and free scrolling (when you release the finger) like on Touch!
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Cool. I hope that offer is sincere b/c I may take you up on that offer

schaps said:
Really nice job!
This is the functionnality I really expected from TouchFlo better than the 3D cube!
I thought about working on such a program if TouchFlo technology couldn't be ported to Hermes, so I would gladly help you to work on this project if you want!
It would be nice if it supports scrolling accelerations and free scrolling (when you release the finger) like on Touch!
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Free scrolling is the next thing to be....very nice work dude

ChaoticDruid said:
I have a scroll effect with my finger using PIEPlus, but I can get up and down the page much faster with the scroll wheel, cause using my finger and moving from top to bottom of the screen is kinda slow when it comes to browsing here at XDA for example, gotta do it a whole bunch of times
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go into your PIE+ option for scroll, and increase the screen drag sensitivity.

I think I remember reading(haven't installed yet) that the scrolling is opposite from what we are used to?
Such as it should be like "dragging" so bottom to top would make it scroll downwards. Is it like this?

deadeyed;1416391 said:
go into your PIE+ option for scroll, and increase the screen drag sensitivity.
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Sorry to wander offtopic, but thanks!
I had always just thought that related to pressure sensitivity for some dumb reason, and never tried it.

great work !!!im using PocketCM v0.6 and it screws up the scrolling in contacts ,otherwise awesome stuff.

It will be good if it's functioning as smooth as PocketCM ContactManager 0.11 scrolling. Just tried it on Shcaps 3.57a but not as expected. Good luck on your programming and hope to here good news from you soon. You got my vote.

Tested on WM6
Hello,
Tested this on iMate JasJam WM6 LVSW
It works in Programs folder and File Explorer(the default one)
Tried in PIE, Opera and Resco Explorer and unfo didn't work.
While touching the screen , the program was selecting items on the screen and no chance of scrolling.
Keep up the good work.
Regards.

Today Screen Fiddling!!

Hi all
Have now virtually achievd my perfect TODAY screen, but for ONE problem. It is just SLIGHTLY too large, thus bringing up a scroll bar on the right hand side- with around 1mm of scroll!!
I have done all I can to shrink and move things, and I believe I now have 2 options left- neither of which I know how to do......
1) Slightly reduce font size on owner information (which I want to keep), AND?OR get the phone no. oto the same line as my name.
2) I wish to keep the screen lock option that appears on today by default (the padlock that stops any screen activations in your pocket). Am wondering if I can add this to one of my SPB PocketPlus tabs as a shortcut- but have no idea where the .exe file is to point to.
Any help much appreciated,
Justin

Why dont you post screenshots. More great suggestions will come in for sure.

Yer tiz.......
Don't laugh- but I love the colouration of the guava theme with the black of the orbit! - just don't like black with black
You can just.... see the tip of the "device unlock" padlock at the bottom of the screen. All is adjusted to optimum (as far as I can tell)- apart from the 2 points I mentioned at the start of the thread- owner info, and device lock shortcut.
Thanks again
Justin

Rainbow-Lentil said:
Yer tiz.......
Don't laugh- but I love the colouration of the guava theme with the black of the orbit! - just don't like black with black
You can just.... see the tip of the "device unlock" padlock at the bottom of the screen. All is adjusted to optimum (as far as I can tell)- apart from the 2 points I mentioned at the start of the thread- owner info, and device lock shortcut.
Thanks again
Justin
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Hi bro,
If you made some search through the net you would find the solution. I've made search, I've found the souliton.
Just try the attached file, I think that's exactly what you need...
Cheers,
B.
View attachment 53852

cant you make the size of pocketbreeze plugin a little smaller?

Or just reduce the size of SPB Diary... in worst case there appears a scroll bar in the Diary window...

SPB diary, and pocket plus have been made as small as possible. The scroll bar to the right is what I am trying to get rid of, ans the today screen extends down too far.
zsitvayb- thanks mate- that zip file has allowed me to shortcut the device lock onto the spb tabs. This has reduced the info at the bottom, and lost me the scroll bar. Can now see 5 days of wether- not 4!!
Would still be interested though in any way of tinkering with the owner info appearance on the today screen....

Remove your soft keys
I use wisbar advanced3, it has the option of removing the soft keys from the today screen, then using AEButton plus I made the soft key buttons have the same function as they originally did, soft key/1 press, contacts/long press, and I have lost no functionallity at all with a bit more real estate. Hope that makes sense. Also the features of WA3 are great and your today screen would look even better with some nice WA3 icons on the taskbar. If only it was free.

Thanks unique boy (tempted to call you uniqua- but unless you have young kids, or are a student you may not know the "backyardigans"!!).
Understand what you are saying- interesting idea. Does the wisbar affect speed at all??

Rainbow-Lentil said:
SPB diary, and pocket plus have been made as small as possible.
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That's not quite true. Remove one of the tabs (in Diary settings). After that you can decrease the height by another 20 picsels or so.

But this would then lose the fuctionality that I built up???

Use this cab to remove soft keys

fazwarts said:
That's not quite true. Remove one of the tabs (in Diary settings). After that you can decrease the height by another 20 picsels or so.
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If you are using SPB 2.5.5 you can make the tabs horizontal and then add a custom tab and inside the custom TAB move the weather or any other today plugin...!
Like what I have done on my screen...
cheers

Have you tried using slide to unlock.
I find this great and you wouldnt need the lock icon on the screen.
Just a though and help you need pm me

WA3
As far as I can tell WA3 does not slow down my artemis. The skin I use is called "reflections" it can be found on lakeridge's forum. Nice new wait cursor, lovely cascading menus, float window. I like it.

Thanks to all- certainly a few ideas there to try.
Keep up the good work- invaluable resource!!!!!!

[APP] 18 Buttons Action Screen [UPDATED 20090306]

This is my first contribution here. Hope someone find it useful.
WHAT IS IT
It's a 18 buttons action screen for the Touch HD, in the following of some 12 buttons versions already available, but with some twists.
HOW DOES IT LOOK LIKE
See the attached screenshot.
HOW TO INSTALL
You'll need to have MortScript installed, you can get it here. Tests were made with version 4.2.
You may need .NET Compact Framework 3.5, but I'm not sure. Anyway installing it is a good idea, you can get it here.
After that, just download and install the attached CAB.
The installation follow the rules and everything should be installed properly independent of you ROM language.
All the files will go into their own folder: \Windows\ActionScreen.
HOW TO USE
You can just press the right selection key. There will be also a configuration icon in Programs.
As for what each icon does, I'll let it up to you to figure that out!
HOW TO CUSTOMIZE
To change the images you need to replace the installed .brn files. Search these forums for details.
To change the links (say you want to use iGO instead of Google Maps, for example) you'll need to edit the registry.
Open HKLM\Software\HTC\Biotouch\ActionScreen\APP_0-17. Each number corresponds to a button.
Change Path to point to your desired application.
If needed change Param to pass parameters to the application.
To translate you'll need to edit a registry key and a file.
To translate the right selection key text, open HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila and change the text in HomeRSKText to anything you like.
To translate the confirmation message before a restart, open the Restart.mscr file and change the text in the first two lines.
VERSION HISTORY
1.00 (20090228) - Initial release.
1.01 (20090302) - Doesn't stay in memory saving 92kb!
1.02 (20090306) - Better management of memory unload.
Added configuration tool to choose if you prefer to keep it in memory (faster loading time) or unload it (saves 92kb).
Added another possible state for WiFi off.
Have fun!

Wow! Thanks for sharing this wonderful app.

thanks
thanks for this one man i did not try till now and i will test it

Great post with a very good looking and practical action screen. Thanks man

get this error
Dutty1.9 Rom @ TouchHD Blackstone

pauernet said:
get this error
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Do you have MortScript installed?

read, post, think.. i am sorry. works perfectly. looks awesome.
thanks a lot

Looks great, thanks! Trying it now...

Good Job wedge666!
That's amazing!
only a thing... the button 16 and 15 (in registry)
do the same thing, turn off the monitor
the 17 do a softreset
How can i change the button 16 for Turn off the device?
thankyou!

BadCluster said:
Good Job wedge666!
That's amazing!
only a thing... the button 16 and 15 (in registry)
do the same thing, turn off the monitor
the 17 do a softreset
How can i change the button 16 for Turn off the device?
thankyou!
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Not exactly the same thing. Button 15, will turn off the screen but 16 will put the HD in sleep mode.
I really don't know how to do a real shutdown (like a long press on the power button) but I'm open to sugestions...

Can this app be started with multiple configurations?
E.g. different hotkeys start different button menus?
How to configure that?
Or A button opens a sub menu by starting the app with another config?
Is there an editor for the button mapping?
Regards,
Yerry

Hello! I do not see how reaching the parameters? Solutions? how to prolong the exposure time of the program!
Sorry for my bad english

Yerry said:
Can this app be started with multiple configurations?
E.g. different hotkeys start different button menus?
How to configure that?
Or A button opens a sub menu by starting the app with another config?
Is there an editor for the button mapping?
Regards,
Yerry
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neosf said:
Hello! I do not see how reaching the parameters? Solutions? how to prolong the exposure time of the program!
Sorry for my bad english
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I just changed some of the original behaviour, graphics and number of buttons of the HTC Action Screen.
Some things like sub menus or the time it takes to close can't be changed.

OK!
THX for this very good application.

Nice application, well done.
Question: how best to stop it running so I can update the .brn file(s) ?

farqui said:
Nice application, well done.
Question: how best to stop it running so I can update the .brn file(s) ?
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You can kill it with a task manager, but I was able to replace the files with Resco Explorer even with it in memory. You can also soft boot and replace the images before the first run.
Or, even better, add the following lines to the end of LaunchAction.mscr:
Code:
Sleep(10000)
Kill("HTCActionScreen.exe")
EDIT: This is in fact such a good idea that I've uploaded a new CAB with this change, see first post.

Thanks for helping me out so promptly, cheers. If you're unloading the app from memory does that mean a slight delay on each start-up ?
Would it be possible to revamp the background.brn and BG*.brn files so it's easier to adjust the icon order ? At the moment it's quite fiddly, with basic pic editing tools.

farqui said:
Thanks for helping me out so promptly, cheers. If you're unloading the app from memory does that mean a slight delay on each start-up ?
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Slightly, yes.
farqui said:
Would it be possible to revamp the background.brn and BG*.brn files so it's easier to adjust the icon order ? At the moment it's quite fiddly, with basic pic editing tools.
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Sorry, but we're working with the limitations of the original HTC Action Screen application.

So useful!!! Thanks a lot for this nice app!

Do i need to uninstall the old version before installing the new version or i can just "upgrade" it?
One bug i found is that my wifi icon remain lighted up even after i click on it to turn it off.
Click wifi icon (become lighted up) -> Turning wifi on.
Click wifi icon (icon remain lighted up) -> turning wifi Off.

Turn off auto rotate and other manila v3 changes

Hey all. I've done a few searchs and read through a bunch of ROM threads (god, the dutty ones are full of stupid posts by stupid people), but haven't found any real answers.
How do we disable auto rotate / landscape mode in the new v3 Manila?
Is there any way of getting back the old notifications functionality where you click any of the icons along the top, and it brings up a screen with bigger icons for Notifications/Sound/Connections.
Use the old pop up menus? I am aware there's a tweak to make the 8 item menu into a 10 item. Can that hack be extended to 15 items?

strifej said:
Hey all. I've done a few searchs and read through a bunch of ROM threads (god, the dutty ones are full of stupid posts by stupid people), but haven't found any real answers.
How do we disable auto rotate / landscape mode in the new v3 Manila?
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If you use Dutty Extreme, then you had to enable the landscape rotate in the first place! In which case, to turn it off you just uninstall the "Dutty Enable Landscape" cab from "remove programs"
strifej said:
Is there any way of getting back the old notifications functionality where you click any of the icons along the top, and it brings up a screen with bigger icons for Notifications/Sound/Connections.
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Nope, which is a real shame because the new notifications screen is USELESS! the "new text" is not the only thing that's useful to see! You can, however, disable the new notifications menu by going to the Task Manager (built into Duttys Extreme - sorry I can't help with where in the start menu it is because I've moved everything around to my own taste!) then go to Services and change the Notifications thingy to be "manual"
strifej said:
Use the old pop up menus? I am aware there's a tweak to make the 8 item menu into a 10 item. Can that hack be extended to 15 items?
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The thread that tells you how to get to 10 items actually meantions that these settings were just how that person had arrived at something that used the whole screen height perfectly. He explained which values change what and you should be able to adapt that to get whatever height of menu you want!
Hope that helps!

chaosdefinesorder said:
If you use Dutty Extreme, then you had to enable the landscape rotate in the first place! In which case, to turn it off you just uninstall the "Dutty Enable Landscape" cab from "remove programs"
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I'm using a different ROM now. I'm using the Lite one to try the speeds and the auto landscape is already cooked in. I was reading Dutty's because his ROM was the first to have it. I searched the thread where I got my ROM, but no one seems to dislike the auto rotate *shrug*. I don't mind it except in bed when I'm on my side.
chaosdefinesorder said:
Nope, which is a real shame because the new notifications screen is USELESS! the "new text" is not the only thing that's useful to see! You can, however, disable the new notifications menu by going to the Task Manager (built into Duttys Extreme - sorry I can't help with where in the start menu it is because I've moved everything around to my own taste!) then go to Services and change the Notifications thingy to be "manual"
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I've tried that I believe, but doesn't really help. Oh well.
chaosdefinesorder said:
The thread that tells you how to get to 10 items actually meantions that these settings were just how that person had arrived at something that used the whole screen height perfectly. He explained which values change what and you should be able to adapt that to get whatever height of menu you want!
Hope that helps!
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Ok, I guess I'll modify the registry. Was hoping to disable it altogether as I don't find it all that pretty and it's simply bloat. On many apps, the new menus don't fit the theme at all.
Thanks for your helpful suggestions!

strifej said:
I don't mind it except in bed when I'm on my side.
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In that case, I suggest using AE Button to map one of the volume buttons to "rotate screen", then you can over-ride the auto-rotate on a case by case basis by rotating the screen manually. I've got it set to long press of volume up and down for rotating each way, so if something gets stuck, or as you say I'm lying down, then I can over-ride whichever way I want.

strifej said:
Hey all. I've done a few searchs and read through a bunch of ROM threads (god, the dutty ones are full of stupid posts by stupid people), but haven't found any real answers.
How do we disable auto rotate / landscape mode in the new v3 Manila?
Is there any way of getting back the old notifications functionality where you click any of the icons along the top, and it brings up a screen with bigger icons for Notifications/Sound/Connections.
Use the old pop up menus? I am aware there's a tweak to make the 8 item menu into a 10 item. Can that hack be extended to 15 items?
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delete "manila" from
HKCU\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor\WhiteList
soft rest

ty ! trying it !

taiseer999 said:
delete "manila" from
HKCU\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor\WhiteList
soft rest
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I've tried disabling the auto rotate for all programs, and while it works, it interferes with some other rotation programs. I use kaisoft's screen rotate, and when i rotate something, the orientation gets forced back to portrait a few seconds later.
I've gone back to Dutty's 1.7 ROM as it suits my needs better. I'm finding auto rotation with the new manila has not improved any more since the old gsen/gyrator days when people had tonnes of problems. It's still a hassle controlling what you want rotated.
Thanks

try this which i found somewhere in dutty's thread:
HKCU\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor
Change the autorotation key to 0
this is the only thing changed, i've not tried the above reg.
it stopped the auto-rotation for me and also solved the photo orientation bug while in camera
opera will still rotate

it works!
swampy said:
try this which i found somewhere in dutty's thread:
HKCU\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor
Change the autorotation key to 0
this is the only thing changed, i've not tried the above reg.
it stopped the auto-rotation for me and also solved the photo orientation bug while in camera
opera will still rotate
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Yes, this way works. It stop Manila auto-rotation, but it also effects the orthers software.

It works
taiseer999 said:
delete "manila" from
HKCU\Software\HTC\HTCSENSOR\GSensor\WhiteList
soft rest
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yes, it works specificly on Manila rotation. Thanks

can i real developer help me out?

im running cm6 barebones. how do i add more than 8 recent apps in the recent apps liat (long gome press) id like to set 16-24. i know you ciuld do this in darchdroid on the hero.... please help!

unable to help. blinded by grammar.
must be a tough thing to spell correctly nowadays.

AvatarOfFrost said:
unable to help. blinded by grammar.
must be a tough thing to spell correctly nowadays.
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speaking of, how do i thicken the htc buttons in htc_ime

hapticchaos said:
speaking of, how do i thicken the htc buttons in htc_ime
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Keyboard settings - HTC IME - user interface - key width adjust.
You can choose how many pixels separate each key on the keyboard. For fatter keys you want less space between keys so choose 0.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

abanh said:
Keyboard settings - HTC IME - user interface - key width adjust.
You can choose how many pixels separate each key on the keyboard. For fatter keys you want less space between keys so choose 0.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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Cool... can i make them go wider? Theres still plenty of room on this huge screen.
Any word of the app list mod? ?

im no developer....nor a 'real one' at that...
but uhhh???
menu>settings>cyanogenmod settings>input settings>long-press home settings>number of recent apps
however the choices are only from 8-15
hope this helps!!!

goodelyfe said:
im no developer....nor a 'real one' at that...
but uhhh???
menu>settings>cyanogenmod settings>input settings>long-press home settings>number of recent apps
however the choices are only from 8-15
hope this helps!!!
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yeah i figured that out a long time ago.
id like to mod it to show 24 apps, high res icons. with the option to end the process from the list. take the multitasking to a whole new level. eyecatching, simple, and fun like webos. who made this mod? cyanogenmod is open source, right? could someone who knows how to do this help out?
i do all this from my evo, coming from physical kb so still getting used to all touch. thanks SO much for the support, but i do speak american english

ohhhhhh, i think you are talking about visual tasker?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...al-task-switcher-now-available-on-the-market/