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New Sliding Panel Homescreen!!! ODPanels!!

Hey ya'll.
I've been working on a new idea for the sliding panels layout. It is fully functional so far, I am currently working on the exe for everyone, so that you may keep your current layout order and all icons, then have them swapped to the new panel layout.
Below are some pics of what it looks like. For all intensive purposes, what I have done is position the layout of the screen so that the panels still move left to right, but scrolling between panels is done also left to right using the icons at the bottom of the homescreen. You still push up and down to scroll between the panels, but it appears as though it's moving left to right.
I am still going to spice up the resolution of the pngs for the different icons, but here it is so far. In a few days, I will have a cab posted for everyone to download. This is a solo project for me, so it will take a little longer since there is no one but me working on this.
Check out post #2 for additional pics.
Let me know what you think!!

Here are some more photos
Here's the rest of the shots I have so far.

the pictures look great.
im just not sure what you mean by the up/down and left/right etc. stuff.
could you explain?
but besides thatttt... good job =]

easy
Simple, Watson.
LOL, what I meant was, you scroll through the panels just as before, there's no difference in the motions.
With this new layout though, instead of your condensed icons running from top to bottom, I have put them at the bottom of the screen in a bar/slider.
Now you have the entire homescreen to display your active panels, and have an even COOLER row of condensed icons, that scroll as you move from panel to panel. That's it.
jcrain11 said:
the pictures look great.
im just not sure what you mean by the up/down and left/right etc. stuff.
could you explain?
but besides thatttt... good job =]
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It looks like the launcher/panel/bar/whatever in MacOS X. "Mousing over" the icons with the up/down keys shows the panel for that icon. Right and left then work just like they do now. Right?

Yep
Right-O me matey. By the way, wassup beartard, we haven't talked in forever. How's it going? I'll get with you on the im, later.
Hope you like this. We can customize this to make it work anyway you want. This has a bar like you call MacOS X, I'd like to refer to it as more of an "Object Desktop" kinda thing. I will have some more theme ideas for this as well with some new dll's for the bronzeres.dll. You can already see some of that from the screenshots I have.
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It looks like the launcher/panel/bar/whatever in MacOS X. "Mousing over" the icons with the up/down keys shows the panel for that icon. Right and left then work just like they do now. Right?
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Hi i love the idea and am going to try it out.
suggestion thought i think it might look cleaner if the panel on top the active one i mean had some sort of border or something to case it in. I bet that intails alot of work but i thought that might look nice.
maybe a light round cornered rectangle of equal proportions for all panels transparent just a faint white? LOL like the original slideing panels but youre setup lol

Looks really sweet so far man, will it include your weather app as well? Great work looks like it will be a much needed change to sliding panels!

It does look great, good job

Good job, it looks great. So when will this be available to use for download?

I am about ready
I have this setup for layouts already. I am trying to figure out how the hell to customize this for everyone, I am having luck, but it's coming along slowly.
I am glad you all like this so far. I am going to make this work with my weather app, plus as far the weather app is concerned I am gonna have to make it have this app be compatible, so there is a lot to do. I wanted to let you all know that the way this works will cause all of your custom panels to be located over a general "small" icon on the bottom row.
What I mean by that is, this uses your iconpaths in your registry, so that you don't have to use my custom made icons. You can keep your own. But since all of the custom panels have the same GUID value in the registry, it will put your icons for your custom panels all over the bottom row and not look pretty, so in order to fix this, I have to put all of your custom icons in one area on the bottom row of icons. If you look at the screenshots, you can see what I mean. All of your active icons will display over the generic hard drive icon, which represents your custom panels. Other than this one thing, it works flawlessly. Unless I here some serious flack about that one thing I just mentioned, I should have this out in a day or so.
Later
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Good job, it looks great. So when will this be available to use for download?
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Oh right on, well I will be waiting for this. Thanks again for putting something like this together.

Here's some more shots
I have toyed around with having a background for the icons at the bottom.
I am gonna make several different layouts with different pics, but this structure of the homescreen will stay the same regardless. It will always be a left to right sliding look.
Also, I have gotten integrated with my weather app.
Also, I have made some new xml's for this, you can choose from the iconbar uptop, which will have new icons, you can also have one with no iconbar, or one with the topbarnotes plugin on top. All of these will come with a version with a background for the iconbar or topbarnotes and a version of each with no background.
I will post more screenshots later. Got the family thing to do for now, enjoy.
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Oh right on, well I will be waiting for this. Thanks again for putting something like this together.
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this is tight.. i like this.. im waitin on u no pressure

Fantastic!
I love that you have the actual battery and signal strength percentage...
I absolutely love it.

Looks like a useful util
Thnx

So when is launch date?

Looks nice so far...

will it support portrait mode ?

OD man your killing me. I can't wait to try this out. I have been waiting for the install since you first posted this. JK don't rush it.

[THEME] Iphone for WAD2 by Mallman v 2.1 NOW WITH LANDSCAPE MODE!!!

Available at www.swampthing.net

Reserved for future use

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Looks great, will give it a try (and your carbon theme) when i finish with all the family Christmas fun.
Hopefully i will get some free time soon to get stuck into themes myself. Need to send the wife and kid on holiday for any chance of that though!

lol metal thats funny. Well when you get the chance please report back what you liked and what you didn't like about the install instructions, theme functionality and anything else you think I could have done better.
best of luck with the family and happy holidays!!

Just had a quick (i mean quick as well) look at the ipod theme.
GREAT THEME
Just a couple of things for the install instructions that might help people new to WAD.
You may not hace a themes folder in Wisbar folder, just create one.
To get to seetings in point 1, touch and hold anywhere on the screen.
Can i confirm that to unlock you just slide left to right. It got me sweating a bit when i thought my phone was locked with no way to get in. Tapping the screen like a nutter
Just going to have a look at your other theme now.
Would these be easy enough to make as a landscape version as well?

great feedback!!!!! updated the install instructions in post 1 and in the download.

Iphone theme
Hi Mallman
greatlooking theme - I am very new to WAD2 it looks like its got an amazing amount to give to HD owners.
How can I change the links to my own programs ie tomtom etc want to keep the icons but keep getting an error, did I say I was NEW to this !!
cheers
Jon

JPW,
If you access the menu (tap and hold on screen) and select 'author mode'
After that, tap and hold over the icon you want to change and change the link it has to the program

Metalboz said:
JPW,
If you access the menu (tap and hold on screen) and select 'author mode'
After that, tap and hold over the icon you want to change and change the link it has to the program
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exactly right, and actions assigned to icons, text or anything else are known as "scripts". added to FAQ by the way

Great work on this and other themes Mallman! A question though, it seemed that the 'lock' button just refers to a page with a lock on it, and this page in turn refers back to the starting page of the theme.
Is it possible to have this button actually lock your device? Because locking my device also locks my volume buttons because I got so anoyed with constantly changing volume while i carry the device around.
Thx again for the work you are putting into this!

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Great work on this and other themes Mallman! A question though, it seemed that the 'lock' button just refers to a page with a lock on it, and this page in turn refers back to the starting page of the theme.
Is it possible to have this button actually lock your device? Because locking my device also locks my volume buttons because I got so anoyed with constantly changing volume while i carry the device around.
Thx again for the work you are putting into this!
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it probably is. In fact if you are running S2U2 (which I am not and dont really like) you could link the red lock icon to S2u2 and eliminate that start page altogether. Let me go see what can be done using only windows locking function. I just dont like using third party locking programs. Seem to cause me more headache than anything for answering the phone lol.
ps. thanks for your kind words as well.

Yeah I don't like the third party locking either. And although you can lock the phone with the powerbutton for some reason i also want the option to use the default software lock.
When i have some time on my hands I will venture into WAD2 themes myself, I'm decent with designing and so far understand the things possible with WAD2 (quite alot!).
Also something you might want to include in your starting posts is that these themes are made for WWE roms. I'm running a Dutch rom myself so basicly not a single button works on installation, not that i mind because its quite easy to replace them with the 'dutch links'.

abats said:
Yeah I don't like the third party locking either. And although you can lock the phone with the powerbutton for some reason i also want the option to use the default software lock.
When i have some time on my hands I will venture into WAD2 themes myself, I'm decent with designing and so far understand the things possible with WAD2 (quite alot!).
Also something you might want to include in your starting posts is that these themes are made for WWE roms. I'm running a Dutch rom myself so basicly not a single button works on installation, not that i mind because its quite easy to replace them with the 'dutch links'.
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hey great feedback on the WWE. I need to update that ASAP so it doent cause confusion!! thank you so much

abats said:
Great work on this and other themes Mallman! A question though, it seemed that the 'lock' button just refers to a page with a lock on it, and this page in turn refers back to the starting page of the theme.
Is it possible to have this button actually lock your device? Because locking my device also locks my volume buttons because I got so anoyed with constantly changing volume while i carry the device around.
Thx again for the work you are putting into this!
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ok after much research, the only thing I can get to work without using a third party locking app is to lock the device my shutting the screen off. This serves the exact purpose you are referencing. What it doesn't do is require an unlock, just have to press the top power button to turn on. I really love this feature now and it keeps the door open for those who want to install the third party apps. I have delete the lock page now so version 1.3 will have this feature with the useless lock page deleted. thanks for the input
and for everyone's knowledge, You cant call the lock function of the phone with an executable file. Seems it is in a dll somewhere and i just dont feel like messing with all of that

In addition to this and the Carbon Fibre themes, because I moved all of the exe's from the Programs folder into sub folders such as Entertainment, System Tools, Productivity, then none of the start links work. However, if you go into Author mode, press and hold, then select Properties, you can change the script application/link and Bob is your Aunt's husband
Good work.
Regards

GLOC said:
In addition to this and the Carbon Fibre themes, because I moved all of the exe's from the Programs folder into sub folders such as Entertainment, System Tools, Productivity, then none of the start links work. However, if you go into Author mode, press and hold, then select Properties, you can change the script application/link and Bob is your Aunt's husband
Good work.
Regards
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lmoa, bob...
yes that is correct. I will be releasing a new version of Carbon Fiber tonight with a new system sliding doc attached to the start button instead of the start menu. this eliminates the dependency on WA3. I have also removed the "locked" page because 2 new buttons appear on the slider which can lock/turn off your screen and soft reset. A new analog vs digital clock function has been installed which makes the clock act as the TF3D clock does when you slide your finger up or down (switching from analog to digital). But look for that tonight

Excellent. I have now managed to change the order of the pages Home > Contacts > Calendar > Weather > Apps > Home which means the most used pages are a single slide left or right from the front page.
You are right about putting things down on paper otherwise it turns into a nightmare trying to work out where you are. Several times I got caught in a loop and had to use the 'home' button to get back to the desktop.
Regards

Hi,
Very nice theme !!
Gloc, how do you can for that that tips Home > Contacts > Calendar > Weather > Apps > Home ?
Best regards

alex2k5 said:
Hi,
Very nice theme !!
Gloc, how do you can for that that tips Home > Contacts > Calendar > Weather > Apps > Home ?
Best regards
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i believe gloc is talking about the carbon fiber theme not iphone

wm6.5.3 with 6.5 styled bottom bar?

hi guys i'm a newbie here keen on knowing if any masters out here have successfully got rid of the 6.5.3 bottom bar for 6.5 styled. personally i really hate the big n ugly 6.5.3 bottom bar -- my phone has got 4 hardware buttons so there's really no need to upsize them on screen the only thing i might find upsizing useful is keyboard show/hide, which btw i find is exactly what wm7 is doing.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/11/18/windows-mobile-7-ui-confirmed-by-microsoft

Um, the entire point of 6.5.3 is that bottom bar... That makes it far more finger friendly along with some other small tweaks to some drop downs and check boxes. Otherwise it is essentially the same as 6.5.

taoist said:
hi guys i'm a newbie here keen on knowing if any masters out here have successfully got rid of the 6.5.3 bottom bar for 6.5 styled. personally i really hate the big n ugly 6.5.3 bottom bar -- my phone has got 4 hardware buttons so there's really no need to upsize them on screen the only thing i might find upsizing useful is keyboard show/hide, which btw i find is exactly what wm7 is doing.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/11/18/windows-mobile-7-ui-confirmed-by-microsoft
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you can search for 218xx series 6.5 rom. These are old style 6.5 roms.

Nagrom Nniuq said:
Um, the entire point of 6.5.3 is that bottom bar... That makes it far more finger friendly along with some other small tweaks to some drop downs and check boxes. Otherwise it is essentially the same as 6.5.
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I think a better way to say it is: When one goes to a 6.5.3 ROM, how does he get rid of the retarded oversized buttons at the bottom of the screen?

Nagrom Nniuq said:
Um, the entire point of 6.5.3 is that bottom bar... That makes it far more finger friendly along with some other small tweaks to some drop downs and check boxes. Otherwise it is essentially the same as 6.5.
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But I dont really think it's practical. They' could've simply made a larger top bar, with regular buttons at the bottoms.
So there is no way to make the bottom bar thinner/ return to the WM6.5 setup in 6.5.3?

Nagrom Nniuq said:
Um, the entire point of 6.5.3 is that bottom bar... That makes it far more finger friendly along with some other small tweaks to some drop downs and check boxes. Otherwise it is essentially the same as 6.5.
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seems like there's no way around this...my point is that i don't need the bottom bar to be finger friendly, i just need it to show labels for my left/right soft buttons, which are hardware buttons i can happily press with my finger.
the only ui improvement i see in 6.5.3 is the tabs being replaced by pivots, which sadly do not feature kinetic scrolling...think i'll still stick to 6.5 for the time being and wait to see what com5 will be like...

Or try my theme with the Plain Toolbar. Perhaps this is what you want?

Nagrom Nniuq said:
Um, the entire point of 6.5.3 is that bottom bar...
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ENTIRE POINT, lol...

WM6.5.3 has a big bottom bar. Period. Why make a bigger top bar where your thumb can't easily reach one handed. The idea is to make everything within reach of your THUMB, which is the fattest digit on your hand, thus needs a bigger area.
Stop using a WM6.5.x OS as a standard Wm6.5 device. Sure if you use your phone with your 1 hand while tapping the screen with your index finger of your other hand, then bigger buttons are a waste. But start using your phone with one hand, like we used to, and you'll appricieate the bigger buttons.
The whole new layout style is built from the ground up. Themes, Graphics, UI settings, image height, everything is revamped to allow the new style. You can't simply flip a switch and flip flop. It is what it is. If you don't like the new style, then use an build based off of the old style. It's that simple.

bottom bar is the best thing that has happened to WM

mxl180 said:
bottom bar is the best thing that has happened to WM
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Seriously? Does it still look like this? Because this is the fugliest interface I've seen in a LONG time.

player911 said:
The whole new layout style is built from the ground up. Themes, Graphics, UI settings, image height, everything is revamped to allow the new style. You can't simply flip a switch and flip flop. It is what it is. If you don't like the new style, then use an build based off of the old style. It's that simple.
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I don't know any fix or tweak for the soft button bar, but you can tweak sizes of a lot of other features, such as the pop-up menu items which are way too big for my tastes, and the spacing in file explorer and and regedit. The main 6.5.x-specific registry keys are all in HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Today (menu and listview), and they are imported with the .tsk files. I've got a thread on it here.
I'll add, there are also registry keys that sound from their name that they might tweak the size of the soft key bar (like the group under HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Today\Softkeybar, lol), but I haven't played with them at all. I like the large size, even though I thought it was fugly as hell before I actually tried it out. The problem is that I think you may need to tweak other things, like the \RadioButton or \PushButton keys, so it may take some effort to shrink the thing down and to shrink the soft keys.

However the release date of WM7 has been delayed. Microsoft may still find WM7 has something that should be improved.

Farmer Ted: tks for the advice...i'll play around with the reg and see what happens
i think different ppl have different ideas about a big bottom bar, which boils down to dif usage habits and handsets. that's why i think ms should give an option for 'classic' bottom bar like they do with vista/7. i prefer operating my handset with thumb only as well, but as said my diamond2 has got 4 buttons so i don't actually have to press the bottom bar buttons on screen.
astart: i find wm7 bottom bar better from the screen shots, though the battery/signal indicators are just a dumb waste of real estate...

I was sceptical at first too. Didn't see the point of losing any screen space.
But I have to say that having the buttons below, although I have HW-buttons, is much easier to use. Just touch, not press.
At to that your skin of choice and you are all set
I do however find the topbar still something to work on.
Maybe an app to hide and unhide the top/bottom bars would do the trick..
If there is an need.

The bottom bar is not wasted screen space because it grew by the same amount the top bar shrunk. It is better in every way. There was a whole lot of extra room down there (two softkeys and the SIP button) while the top was crowded.
With the new way, there bottom now has 5 buttons, everything fits just perfectly, but now the top can have both clock and battery at the same time, a bunch of status indicators, and still hold the full program name on the left. No more screen space was used, yet more was fit on and start and OK are easier to hit with your fingers now (though those buttons have been on most recent devices making them a bit redundant, though keeping them is better than not having them at all).

khaytsus said:
Seriously? Does it still look like this? Because this is the fugliest interface I've seen in a LONG time.
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Lumic said:
You removed the fugliness. 6.5.x is an enjoyable experience now.
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Yeah, man !
Anyway, I don't understand why MS didn't remove the Start and close buttons altogether - after all, all (?) devices have these as hardware buttons. This way, apps would have 4 softkeys...

[Q] Sense 2.5 Clock Background and Taskbar Color

I've got to ask the dumbest question ever, but I've looked through all my settings and cannot figure it out. How do I change the background color of the clock and the task bar from the blue it is now (see attached) to black like the calender is? Sorry, but I just can't find the setting. Any help is appreciated!
I do have the new AT&T ROM with co0kie's Home Tab.

Wyrestorm said:
I've got to ask the dumbest question ever, but I've looked through all my settings and cannot figure it out. How do I change the background color of the clock and the task bar from the blue it is now (see attached) to black like the calender is? Sorry, but I just can't find the setting. Any help is appreciated!
I do have the new AT&T ROM with co0kie's Home Tab.
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haven't heard of anyone doing that yet...with our settings...sounds like you would need a CAB to change those. I know there are some for the task bar that I have seen floating around.
Where did you get the ROM? ---> i just got the new official Rom
Is that the official leaked one?
Did you have to flash to install?
What's the Cookie's home tab?
Thanks

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haven't heard of anyone doing that yet...with our settings...sounds like you would need a CAB to change those. I know there are some for the task bar that I have seen floating around.
Where did you get the ROM? ---> i just got the new official Rom
Is that the official leaked one?
Did you have to flash to install?
What's the Cookie's home tab?
Thanks
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It's the official ROM off the HTC website. I've seen so many screens of the HTC Tilt 2 with the colors I want, I'm guessing that they may have been cooked ROMs. The Co0kie's Home Tab is the editor that allows for tons of customization of the home screen and options, it's great. Thanks for the reply and if you find out anything on how to change the colors, please let me know.

I Found It!!!
http://tp2.bfgreenberg.com/Sense25New.htm
You can change the home tabs and a lot of the other Icons!
I used these when I had TouchFlo3D on the original ROM, to add the sense, colored slider: Touch pro ones are here: http://tp2.bfgreenberg.com/tf3d.htm
The ones for us on the new Rom is the first link, for sense ui stuff.
Where did you get the Cookies Home Tab?
Thanks
Just Tried the Icon Package for this one, they look great! No more Black and white look!
Will try the slider bar next

I found a few more, that I am about to try, here's the link where I found them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529576&page=91
Couldn't get this Transparent Slider to Work...haven't tried the clock or curtains...

Noticed you don't have a Task Manager in your Task Bar at the Top Too.
This one is Great! Same thing we had in the Original Rom
Now we just need something to change the icons in Task Bar...add something with color!

This one will let us design our own slider with our icons of our choosing and set all the wallpapers to be the same...haven't tried this guy yet...but this looks better, just a little more work than just the transparent slider.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503511

BTW found a good Colored Task Bar if you are Interested.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512971
I liked this one above.
There are some other's, Brian's TaskBar, Spike's etc:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520547
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522080
Screen Shot is of one of the first one's versions.

You can go here http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-co0kies-home-tab.html and find Co0kie's Home Tab, works great for me. I'm going to check those links you posted and will get back to you on how they work. Thanks for the updates, too. I'll definitely need the Dutty's Task Manager. I already downloaded it, just haven't put it on my phone yet.

Wyrestorm said:
You can go here http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-co0kies-home-tab.html and find Co0kie's Home Tab, works great for me. I'm going to check those links you posted and will get back to you on how they work. Thanks for the updates, too. I'll definitely need the Dutty's Task Manager. I already downloaded it, just haven't put it on my phone yet.
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There's actually an entire thread about Co0kie's right here on these forums.

ridolfo said:
There's actually an entire thread about Co0kie's right here on these forums.
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I know, just wanted to give a quick link.

Wyrestorm said:
I know, just wanted to give a quick link.
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Thank You! I added this, happy to get some more quick link tabs!
I added the Icon Package and the Glass slider.
When I tried the Transparencies for the Quick Links...I tried versions C, BUT it caused the images for "Quick Link Contacts" to Disappear ... so i took it off, I haven't tried version A or B yet.
There are some glitches when uninstalling the Glass slider, since it is slightly to the right, you stalk slider becomes slightly to the right when you uninstall the Glass one.
Screen Shots show the Icon package...gives color to everything. Plus, in the 6th picture you can see what I mean by the slider being slightly to the right after uninstalling the Glass slider....a little annoying...will probably put the glass one back, I was just playing with different things, untill i have time to try HDWalls app...which looks a little more complicated.

Ok, Added the Transparent Slider Back in, and the App to remove the Blue background behind the clock.
First Pick is w/the Blue back ground and the others without it.
Slider is slightly too the right in All People and some of the other things, but not bad enough to cause any real issues.
I Installed the Transparent Quick Icons Version B, and it did the same exact thing as Version C, but keeps the icon Images for Contacts in Quick links, so issue solved.
Here are some shots to give you an idea.

Looks Great!
Wow, those look really good, Strange Shadow. I think I'm at the point where I've kinda got things where I want them, but now I must have that taskbar (love the colors and icons). Which taskbar was it? I tried one of the ones you posted, but I found several icons missing when I installed it, so I uninstalled it. I'll take some pics later today of what I've got now. I think the transparent or glass sliders did exactly what I wanted which was to get rid of the blue. Thanks again!

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So, here's what I've got so far. Was having some issues with the tabs on the slider having a blue shadow/background. But when I go into the contacts, it seems to disappear. Anyhow, I like your taskbar and icon packs, gotta give them a try.

Wyrestorm said:
Wow, those look really good, Strange Shadow. I think I'm at the point where I've kinda got things where I want them, but now I must have that taskbar (love the colors and icons). Which taskbar was it? I tried one of the ones you posted, but I found several icons missing when I installed it, so I uninstalled it. I'll take some pics later today of what I've got now. I think the transparent or glass sliders did exactly what I wanted which was to get rid of the blue. Thanks again!
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I'm using tsowentaskbar6v3.1(lite).cab for the task bar (cab added to this post)
Haven't had any problems with it.
I went with the Version C for the Quick links, it gets rid of the shading around tabs and names, the photo issue I had earlier is gone now...I think I originally put them on in the wrong order, the slider is suppose to go last.
I noticed the same thing, with the blue patch after a soft reset, but I just go to contacts then all contact, then back to home screen and it goes away.
Now that I look, I am missing the Text Message Icon in this one, when I get a message, the original white message box appears...hmm....that's the only one I have noticed so fare...I might try a few more within the next couple of days.
I also noticed that the reception bars are not showing, when nothing is going on, I just have the earth with one tiny bar, but when making a phone call, they appear with the phone icon, I am going to try v6.2.1 and see if it changes anything
BTW, I have been installing these on my strage card, to save device space, not sure if this is the reason for any of this, I will try on the device too, some time later

Gonna give that taskbar a try and let you know how it works for me. I'm so much of a noob that if I have to change anything in the registry or something along those lines, I'm done with it. If it's not a cab file that self-installs, I won't risk screwing something up. I'd like to sit down and learn hands-on, but don't know anyone in my area. Thanks again.

Wyrestorm said:
Gonna give that taskbar a try and let you know how it works for me. I'm so much of a noob that if I have to change anything in the registry or something along those lines, I'm done with it. If it's not a cab file that self-installs, I won't risk screwing something up. I'd like to sit down and learn hands-on, but don't know anyone in my area. Thanks again.
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Yeah, I'm the same way, if it's not an easy Cab install/uninstall I'm usually not too interested. I prefer the easy cab install to make sure nothing gets messed up.
I would do more if someone could show me a step by step, and show that it worked fine with their 'personal" phone without ruining anything.
Good luck, I tried 6v.2.1...it has the same issue, keeps the old wm text message, and doesn't show the signal strength...I'll try installing them on the internal memory...see if that makes any difference...which I doubt will...

Further down his page there is one for Wm6.5... I tried it, and was SOOOOOo excited when I found that the Signal Strength option Finally Worked!
But...the Speaker indicating sound/vibrate/silent is completely gone...

DUDE! I FOUND ONE! w/the signal actually working!!! lol
So fare the only thing I noticed is that the Text Message Icon is still the old white Bubble, but the Signal is working and the battery looks great!
Here it is: CAB
Just found another annoyance, the Volume Controls are changed a bit now, when you press the up/down side volume hard buttons, the image is slightly different, the bars indicating the Volume are now 3/4 the length of the original, with the first 1/4 no longer existing
Task manager and red X over lap sometimes too...but not a huge deal.
Screen Shots...nvm in my room, I can barely get two bars lol

[Q] Removing/Changing the apps in the bottom row of the home screen

Hi there,
Just got a new Galaxy Tab 3 10.1. There's a line of apps installed below the page/panel indicator on the home screens, with a bunch of (to me) ill chosen apps. But I can't drag them off the screen to delete them, like I can the ones above the page indicator. I can't find any mention of what this apparently separate panel is called to search better.
Of interest, are people happy with their purchase of one of these? So far I'm finding it pretty ordinary - not horrible, just ordinary...

maysa said:
Hi there,
Just got a new Galaxy Tab 3 10.1. There's a line of apps installed below the page/panel indicator on the home screens, with a bunch of (to me) ill chosen apps. But I can't drag them off the screen to delete them, like I can the ones above the page indicator. I can't find any mention of what this apparently separate panel is called to search better.
Of interest, are people happy with their purchase of one of these? So far I'm finding it pretty ordinary - not horrible, just ordinary...
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Just drag the apps on the lower part of your home screen to the upper part where it says delete. then you can go to your apps and drag them to the lower part of your home screen to add them in the dock
If you're saying about the lock screen then I don't know

Hi!
I'm pretty happy with the tab 10.1! With the latest OTA update it runs even smoother! The runtime is great, can handle up to 5 days with daily usage without charging. I received my leather case today, a 360° case.. I can put it horizontal or vertical and it "wakes up" when i open the case.
With that prize its an absolutely recommendation.
Greetings
Gesendet von meinem GT-P5210 mit Tapatalk 4

levihaler said:
Just drag the apps on the lower part of your home screen to the upper part where it says delete. then you can go to your apps and drag them to the lower part of your home screen to add them in the dock
If you're saying about the lock screen then I don't know
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Hi there,
On the default home page, there's two large widgets on the top (weather and news). Below that there's a Google search bar. Below that there's a row of shortcuts. These all behave normally. Below that there's the page/panel indicator (telling you which home page you're on) and then at the bottom there's another row of shortcuts. It's that last, bottom row that I'm having trouble with. They don't seem to act normally - I can't drag them off to delete as normal. They appear to be hardwired. They are not the choice I would select and I want to change them.
Are other people able to delete these shortcuts?
Thanks!

maysa said:
Hi there,
On the default home page, there's two large widgets on the top (weather and news). Below that there's a Google search bar. Below that there's a row of shortcuts. These all behave normally. Below that there's the page/panel indicator (telling you which home page you're on) and then at the bottom there's another row of shortcuts. It's that last, bottom row that I'm having trouble with. They don't seem to act normally - I can't drag them off to delete as normal. They appear to be hardwired. They are not the choice I would select and I want to change them.
Are other people able to delete these shortcuts?
Thanks!
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Can you show us a picture?
maybe installing a launcher / shell will help you organize your tablet's home screen...

Same problem.
[o QUOTE=maysa;44827975]Hi there,
Just got a new Galaxy Tab 3 10.1. There's a line of apps installed below the page/panel indicator on the home screens, with a bunch of (to me) ill chosen apps. But I can't drag them off the screen to delete them, like I can the ones above the page indicator. I can't find any mention of what this apparently separate panel is called to search better.
Of interest, are people happy with their purchase of one of these? So far I'm finding it pretty ordinary - not horrible, just ordinary...[/QUOTE]
I have the same problem. I'm tired of reading the answer "click and hold then drag it up". It seems to be the stock answer on all forums. They won't move! No matter what I do, the ridiculous row of apps bottom most on the screen is stuck. There's no help for this in the help app/widget. Someone must know how to unlock these darn things. I want to replace them with ones I use regularly.

granparoger said:
maysa said:
Hi there,
Just got a new Galaxy Tab 3 10.1. There's a line of apps installed below the page/panel indicator on the home screens, with a bunch of (to me) ill chosen apps. But I can't drag them off the screen to delete them, like I can the ones above the page indicator. I can't find any mention of what this apparently separate panel is called to search better.
Of interest, are people happy with their purchase of one of these? So far I'm finding it pretty ordinary - not horrible, just ordinary...
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I have the same problem. I'm tired of reading the answer "click and hold then drag it up". It seems to be the stock answer on all forums. They won't move! No matter what I do, the ridiculous row of apps bottom most on the screen is stuck. There's no help for this in the help app/widget. Someone must know how to unlock these darn things. I want to replace them with ones I use regularly.
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Qranparoger,
Unfortunately that is the correct answer of click and hold and move. I just did it to mine and I can move two of the three apps I have in the bottom row. The only one that cannot move is APPS. My SETTINGS and FIREFOX can both be moved to the main screen above the bottom row.
My tab is rooted, but uses stock rom. There is nothing special about what I have done. I checked settings to see if I had changed a display or security function but I do not see anything. I do remember when I first got the tab that I too was having problems. But I do remember solving it and removing the bottom row (except APPS) and rearranging the icons or deleting the icons.
It think that maybe it might be in the APPLICATION MANAGER in SETTINGS that you "Turn Off" the app and it might vanish from the bottom of the screen. Again, I cannot remember how I did it but it can be done.

Brian D said:
Qranparoger,
Unfortunately that is the correct answer of click and hold and move. I just did it to mine and I can move two of the three apps I have in the bottom row. The only one that cannot move is APPS. My SETTINGS and FIREFOX can both be moved to the main screen above the bottom row.
My tab is rooted, but uses stock rom. There is nothing special about what I have done. I checked settings to see if I had changed a display or security function but I do not see anything. I do remember when I first got the tab that I too was having problems. But I do remember solving it and removing the bottom row (except APPS) and rearranging the icons or deleting the icons.
It think that maybe it might be in the APPLICATION MANAGER in SETTINGS that you "Turn Off" the app and it might vanish from the bottom of the screen. Again, I cannot remember how I did it but it can be done.
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Latest ROM update - still can't change the apps. My tab isn't rooted, and I couldn't be bothered to now. I don't necessarily want to "turn off" the apps, just not use my precious home screen space. Anyway, I solved the problem by buying a Nexus. Yep, free Samsung is just collecting dust, piece of rubbish... Before anyone rages on me, there's a bunch of reasons I didn't like the Samsung, not just this one thing.

maysa said:
Latest ROM update - still can't change the apps. My tab isn't rooted, and I couldn't be bothered to now. I don't necessarily want to "turn off" the apps, just not use my precious home screen space. Anyway, I solved the problem by buying a Nexus. Yep, free Samsung is just collecting dust, piece of rubbish... Before anyone rages on me, there's a bunch of reasons I didn't like the Samsung, not just this one thing.
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Meh... it is all good. Since you got the tab for free, you can send it to me. Give me something to play around with. :laugh::laugh: