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Best Video Setting for Smooth Video?

Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.

chongbh said:
Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
elab

elab said:
Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
elab
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7InTpNWJ4HQ

Can only get on youtube through my Rhodium at work but isn't that video HD?
It's got a pretty fast processor for a phone but it's still only 533MHz, it can't playback HD content!

I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?

Yea i have no issues at all with any video format with coreplayer with the exception of mkvs.

mnico said:
I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?
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I am also using Core Player for playing back the above FLV format file.

Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.

The HTC player will playback mp4's encoded with H.264, so long as they're Standard Definition with stereo audio.

mnico said:
Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.
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I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.

What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.

thedudelasse said:
What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.
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I have used Coreplayer for playback.
Tried encoding "The Black Knight" Movie in the below format :
1) Width x Height (704 x 296)
2) Bit Rate (64kbs)
3) Audio Format (Lame MP3)
4) Frame Rate (23 frames/second)
5) Data Rate (1031 kbs)
6) video Sample Size (24 bit)
7) Video Compression (XVID)
There is some portion of the playback jerky and not smooth, any problem with the above settings?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.

chongbh said:
I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.
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I used a Firefox addon that "strips" the contents out of the pages (videos, sounds, SWF, ...). It can also be used to convert to other video formats while downloading, but I didn't use this feature as I wanted to test with the real deal.
I double-checked just now, and the smaller file (LowRes) is 4.76MB and it's fully functional and it plays 'till the end. The HD is 33,9MB. Perhaps there's a different file version when you stream directly from the internet... it doesn't make much sense, but I'm just guessing.
I didn't had time to continue searching for the right codecs yet. But I'll give it a go tomorrow. I'm sure I was not the 1st to experience this "issue" and the codecs "should" exist somewhere... so I hope.

Aquila-169 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.
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Thanks for your recommendation and I recode the video again, it is much smoother playing over the WMP.
Will use this program to encode future DVD or Video for playback in my Touch Pro 2.

core player settings

converted some films to MP4 and on core player they are very stuttery
res 720 x 480
what are the best set up settings people are using for core player
thanks in advance

i play movies with CorePlayer without converting them.
I just copy paste my 700Mb AVI/DivX (1h30 min) movie onto my memory card, and it plays perfectly : smooth playback, and clear picture.
So need to convert anything.
I use the basic settings from Coreplayer... Works out of the box !
Even with my old Kaiser, it was playing well after some tweaking.

+1 same here...no conversion needed. I play a 1 1/2 hours avi movie with coreplayer with the default setting directly from my microSD 16GB with no problem. Smooth running too. Btw, this is my first time watch a full movie on my TP2, usually i only watch a small clip/trailer movie.
Very impression performance too.

Hunt down the pocketnow.com TP2 review. In one of their videos in the review, they do some benchmarking and come up with their ideal resolution and bitrate. It may not be final for you, but it's bound to be useful info.

use built in player for mp4 format! it uses the hardware effectively! i dont think coreplayer can utilize the hardware optimally nevertheless it is a good video player for many formats.

Play HD Videos on X1i ????

hello need a player who can play hd videos ( coreplayer, tmcpm, windows media, divix mobile etc ) dont work what can i do ? i cant play avis or some other videos on the x1 rom is toutchit v11 leo german please help me!

Let me Google that for you.

X1's hardware can barely play SD videos with acceptable quality/frame rate, let alone HD...
Another thing - the screen is 800x480 and it is not capable for any of the HD resolutions (720p/1080i/p). There are not enough pixels to display HD content. DVD (NTSC) video resolution is 720x480 and that's eventually the best you can get as a resolution off X1.

X1's hardware is capable (of SD), just use the normal WinMo Media Player instead of others which cannot make use of hardware accel.

Use the tool provided by XDA to convert your movies to mp4. Those can be played in high res 800 X 480 with wmp or the media xperience panel.

leobg said:
X1's hardware can barely play SD videos with acceptable quality/frame rate, let alone HD...
Another thing - the screen is 800x480 and it is not capable for any of the HD resolutions (720p/1080i/p). There are not enough pixels to display HD content. DVD (NTSC) video resolution is 720x480 and that's eventually the best you can get as a resolution off X1.
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...i played video with more pixels than screen have...it was about (854*480) in .flv format, played in CorePlayer...i have few videos of that size, some of them plays fine, some of them are played in low frame rate(few per second only)...so its depends on hardware speed, not screen resolution...
armin van buuren-love you more.flv, is 864*480,and it plays very good...video is downloaded from youtube via savevid.com
I've posted links, so you can see...

I use mp4 format and this is this same what HD quality

Playing MP4 HD

I have a few movie clips that i kept from my HD2 and some of these work fine and others only play sound and no picture.
I have downloaded some 720p mp4 trailers from gametrailers.com and these only play sound.
Is there anyway to sort this out?
I thought all the clips that played on my HD2 would have played on this phone?
Thanks for any help.

I had a similar problem with a 720p MP4 file I had.
Converted it to a .WMV and a .AVI, same problem occured.
The only way I could fix it was render it as 480p instead, after which it worked flawlessly.
Probably a better way to get it working, but as a last resort you can try the above.

Max res video on Desire is 800x480 at the moment, 720p and divx support coming in future update.

Video encoding settings?Please help! :-)

I'm trying for a while now to convert movies to be played on my desire.Right now I am trying using handbrake.However it just won't seem to play whatever I have thrown at it.
My average convert settings are something like this:
An H.264 .mp4 file @ 2mbps bitrate with mp3 or AAC audio @128kbps,resolution 800x480 or 1280x720.
I have also tried to play each converted video with RockPlayer but nothing changes.
Bear in mind that the only size limitation for me right now is fat32's 4GB limit.I use a Kingston 16GB class 10 SD.
Many many thanks in advance!

Strange, I've got an Avatar rip that I dl'ed and put straight onto the Desire that played with no problems, looks awesome as well. Plays through the default player or through Rockplayer as well
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yeah,I am also trying this with Avatar.I have downloaded two versions,one 1080p that obviously doesn't play at all,and a 720p one that plays but is really really laggy.
Can you tell me more info on the copy of Avatar that plays ok on your device?

I do it in two steps:
1. PocketDivXEncoder, just to have a "clean" AVI in 640x480.
2. SuperC, no resize (I find PocketDivXEncoder better for resizing).
Video MP4, Codec MPEG-4, 15 Fps, 768 kbps
Audio AAC-LC, 44100, 2 channels, 128 kbps
Perfect, IMO.

lohpsch said:
I do it in two steps:
1. PocketDivXEncoder, just to have a "clean" AVI in 640x480.
2. SuperC, no resize (I find PocketDivXEncoder better for resizing).
Video MP4, Codec MPEG-4, 15 Fps, 768 kbps
Audio AAC-LC, 44100, 2 channels, 128 kbps
Perfect, IMO.
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Thanks for the reply my friend but that's not what I'm talkin' about...I want high quality when I watch movies.Strangest thing is that I try to make my videos have the same settings that the Desire uses for the videos taken with its camera.To no avail so far!
Also,if anyone uses handbrake I think it would be a more productive thread!

I'm using AVS Video Converter now and my files works flawlessly. The settings are H.264 [email protected], 720p resolution (or native WVGA, as you like it), up to 8000kbps (without any problem for Desire) bitrate, no CABAC, MP4 ISO v2 container. Handbrake lacks some advanced settings, maybe you should try to change it.

But dude,it's a paid program,Handbrake is free,that's why I use it.I will try to find a cracked version though...

@Pigbrother
Man,can you please share the settings you use for H.264 with me?I encode again and again and,although it does play on the Desire,it lags like ****!
I do a H.264 @3Mbps,but I am confused with the advanced settings of it and probably that's where it all goes fuzzy!
I managed to snatch a copy of Avatar with Handbrake that plays well,but it's MPEG-4 @2Mbps(although it seems that higher would play no prob).But H.264 is better,so I want that if possible!

Here they are.
I'm using the default player with hardcoded subtitles (you can select them in the advanced tab, bottom of the screen)

Dude,this is STRAAAANGE!
Following your instructions and settings pigbrother,I got a small length video(a 1080p trailer of Harry Potter 7 I downloaded from youtube),I converted it according to what settings you used with a 3250kbps bitrate and 720p and it played super smooth while having the best quality I'd ever seen on a mobile device!Then,I converted Avatar with exactly the same settings and it wouldn't play!I tried stock video player,mVideoPlayer and RockPlayer but none worked,it just said it couldn't open the file.The only thing I can think of is that there is some sort of limitation regarding the size of the file to be played(mine was 3,8GB),because the only playing copy of Avatar I got was an exactly 2GB big one I got with Handbrake.
Please guys,If you can think of something help me!
Thanks!

So,guys,this is interesting.I made another copy of Avatar using AVS and I used some higher profile settings(like CABAC) to make an 720p H.264 mp4 file @4Mbps and checked the option to split it in 2000MB files.Total size is about 4,8GB for 3 files and it plays like heaven!The picture of it is the absolute best I've seen until now!
So guys,there is no meaning in disabling all those advanced options as they only give better compression and quality(while making the process of conversion slower however,mine took 7:30 hours with my E8400 Intel Core2Duo).You should only put a limit to the bitrate so that the output file doesn't get bigger than 2GB.
So that's it!Now,if there is any way to make the conversion using the PCs GPU which will make it far faster I'll be happy!

tolis626 said:
Yeah,I am also trying this with Avatar.I have downloaded two versions,one 1080p that obviously doesn't play at all,and a 720p one that plays but is really really laggy.
Can you tell me more info on the copy of Avatar that plays ok on your device?
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Video
Frame W/H 720*400
Data Rate 1750kbps
Total Bitrate 1918kbps
Framerate 29fps
Audio
Bitrate 167kbps
Channels 2
Audio Sample rate 48 kHz