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Tilt 2 freezing when locking phone...

Has anyone else had the problem with the Tilt 2 freezing when locking the phone? It doesn't happen all the time; but every so often, it freezes on me and I have to reset the phone to get it to work again. I haven't come across a solid answer for why it does this, so in the meantime I've reverted the locking mechanism to the Windows classic version, not the Windows default version that comes set on the phone. I do like the idea of the sliding unlocking mechanism, but I don't want to deal with the freezing. Is there a fix for this problem?

You are not the only one. I was wondering if it was S2U2.
I have been leaving my phone unplugged over night the past two nights to get a feel for the battery life. When I go to wake the phone in the morning it was either a blank screen or just the title bar before it froze. I had to reset to get the phone to work again.

thex said:
You are not the only one. I was wondering if it was S2U2.
I have been leaving my phone unplugged over night the past two nights to get a feel for the battery life. When I go to wake the phone in the morning it was either a blank screen or just the title bar before it froze. I had to reset to get the phone to work again.
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I've had bad experiences with S2U2. I had installed S2U2 on my 8525, and I ended up having to do a hard reset. One day, after having to power down and restart the phone, it just wouldn't load. It got stuck in start-up mode. I don't plan to use S2U2 again. I'm not sure if the slide mechanism that comes standard with the Tilt 2 is related to S2U2 or not...

I am wondering if it is a conflict between the NEW WM lock slider and S2U2. I have a corporate exchange, so I have to use the PIN access.
I have the PIN set to appear in one hour if not in use. However, when using the WM slide locker, it ALWAYS reveals the PIN pad. If the PIN access did not appear after every WM slide locker, I would use it.
I changed the settings in for the WM lock to use the classic - thus eliminating the WM slide to unlock.
I will leave it OFF the charger tonight and let you know the results tomorrow.

Switching to WM Classic for the lock screen seems to work.
The screen did not freeze when I went to turn off the alarm this morning.
So the solution to use S2U2 is to change the Lock screen on your device from Default to Classic.

thex said:
Switching to WM Classic for the lock screen seems to work.
The screen did not freeze when I went to turn off the alarm this morning.
So the solution to use S2U2 is to change the Lock screen on your device from Default to Classic.
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Thanks for the follow-up. Yeah, I've done the same thing: switched from default to classic. Thanks again.

Screen Unlock Freezes on Tilt 2
I too had this problem right out of the box. I switched to the Windows Classic as prescribed. However, this prompted me to get out the hand held drill and put a small hole right in the side of the back cover. I found myself having to battle the back cover every time I needed to soft reset, plus I noted the stylus needed to be removed to properly seat the back cover upon reinstall. Now I simply pull out my stylus and stick it in my hole. STOP IT!
Buzz
Formerly MDA / Wing / Tilt... and now Tilt 2
Always AT&T

Screen Unlock Freezes on Tilt 2
I just recently purchased the HTC Tilt 2 from AT&T on 02/15/2010 and for a few times I can successfully use the screen lock and unlock feature but then it stops working and I have to go press the soft reset button. This is constantly a problem now. When I try to go and unlock my phone it allows me to move the little lock icon to the left or right but the screen remains locked.
I appreciate the suggestions to dumb down to the Classic mode but this is not acceptable for a brand new device. I hope HTC comes out with a hotfix for this soon! We need to make this issue known to HTC so they can begin debugging immediately. Or do I have a defective phone and I need to return my phone?

southOCTilt2user said:
I just recently purchased the HTC Tilt 2 from AT&T on 02/15/2010 and for a few times I can successfully use the screen lock and unlock feature but then it stops working and I have to go press the soft reset button. This is constantly a problem now. When I try to go and unlock my phone it allows me to move the little lock icon to the left or right but the screen remains locked.
I appreciate the suggestions to dumb down to the Classic mode but this is not acceptable for a brand new device. I hope HTC comes out with a hotfix for this soon! We need to make this issue known to HTC so they can begin debugging immediately. Or do I have a defective phone and I need to return my phone?
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I have seen a post similar to this pop up multiple times in the past month. This guy was specifically having problems with his mail client.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634213
Personally I have only experienced this issue when the phone was next to my engine getting 400° temps blasted on it. Its hard to say the actual cause of the problem, but it seems in ideal situations (no 2000 e-mails or excessive heat) my phone is free of any freezing or strange behavior.
*edit*
also at the end of that post another user posted a work around that seems to be helping.

southOCTilt2user said:
I just recently purchased the HTC Tilt 2 from AT&T on 02/15/2010 and for a few times I can successfully use the screen lock and unlock feature but then it stops working and I have to go press the soft reset button. This is constantly a problem now. When I try to go and unlock my phone it allows me to move the little lock icon to the left or right but the screen remains locked.
I appreciate the suggestions to dumb down to the Classic mode but this is not acceptable for a brand new device. I hope HTC comes out with a hotfix for this soon! We need to make this issue known to HTC so they can begin debugging immediately. Or do I have a defective phone and I need to return my phone?
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After returning my first HTC Tilt 2 phone and I got a second one, I got the same problem again.
I think I found the screen lock bug for the HTC Tilt 2 that I am able to reproduce. The problem is when I enable the Owner Information [Identification information or Notes] to display when the device is turned on and then try to slide the lock icon it will not unlock the phone.
HTC, please look into fixing this bug. Thanks!
Here are the steps to reproduce the problem:
1. Press the Windows logo start key (the second key on the bottom of your phone).
2. Choose Settings.
3. Choose Personal.
4. Choose Owner Information.
5. I populated everything on the Identification tab as well as a note to contact me on the Notes tab.
6. Choose the Options tab.
7. Check mark either the Identification information box or the Notes box.
8. Click OK
9. Now lock your phone by holding down the end call button.
10. Power off your phone.
11. Power on your phone.
12. Try to unlock your phone right away by sliding the lock all the way left or right.
13. You can slide the lock icon all you want but you will never get to unlock your phone.
14. You now need to soft reset your phone by taking the back cover off and using the stylus to press the side reset button. :-(
I hope this makes it into a downloadable bug fix. In the meantime, I have disabled (unchecked) any Owner Info notifications on device power up. I really miss having this on device power up as my old 7 year old Nokia phone was able to do that without a problem.

Any way to keep screen off all the time until top power button pressed?

More than half the time I take my phone out of it's case in my pocket to check texts or call somebody, it's always on and eating battery. Alot of the time I have the phone in vibrate or silent because I can't have it going off most of the day, and whenever I get any kind of notification the screen comes on (text, alarm, call, ect.), and then the screen ends up staying on because it's constantly being bumped and never has the time to shut itself down.
Is there any way I can make the screen stay off at ALL times (except on an incoming call), and ONLY come on when I press the unlock/power button on the top of the phone?
I have a TMobile TP2 and I'm running the Nov. 19th, Photon Energy ROM. Upgrading to the Nov. 27th version when it's done downloading but I don't think that will fix the problem as I've changed ROMs before. Thanks to any help.

you will find that when in the case it should be off, on taking the phone out of the case (i assume the HTC one that came with the phone?)
the magnet in the case triggers the keyboard sensor which turns the screen on.
otherwise, you can change the display time out in power options under settings.
Cheers
Steve

That's interesting, I've heard about the case doing that but never thought about it. Would you recommend any cheap cases, or is there a specific magnet location I should be careful of? And do you know if there is a way to keep the screen off when I get a text message for example?

There is a way to fix this... it is to disable "Wake on Slide." I have done this and no more problems.
Here is a link to what to do:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2945249&postcount=3
Hope it helps you, as it did me.

Thanks for the reply and I appreciate the help, but I don't really have a problem with the wake on keyboard slide, it seems that if the phone is in my pocket locked, and I get a text message, the screen comes on to notify me that I have a text message. Then, it's usually being bumped around in my pocket and since the touch screen is usable with any object, it will stay on because something will tap it in my pocket. The phone then heats up over time and drains battery. I want to find a way to keep the screen off at all times unless, I either receive a call, or push the power button. Thanks.

illusion of progress said:
Thanks for the reply and I appreciate the help, but I don't really have a problem with the wake on keyboard slide, it seems that if the phone is in my pocket locked, and I get a text message, the screen comes on to notify me that I have a text message. Then, it's usually being bumped around in my pocket and since the touch screen is usable with any object, it will stay on because something will tap it in my pocket. The phone then heats up over time and drains battery. I want to find a way to keep the screen off at all times unless, I either receive a call, or push the power button. Thanks.
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Try:
go to HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
change DisableSMSWakeUpEvent to 1 (0 will wake up the device)
On my Rhodium, it does not wake up by default. I hear the notification, but my screen remains dark
Or try this cab file ... soft reset after install

Thanks for the .cab, I'm restarting now to see if it fixes the problem. Kind of random, but I might as well ask here before starting a new thread. I started using Mobile Shell instead of TF3D and so far I love it, but when setting a wallpaper, the wallpapers that I would normally use in TF3D, (480x800), it makes me select or crop out part of the photo to use as a background in Mobile Shell. I can't tell if it actually gets blurry (I would think so, because it's stretching the picture), but does anyone know why it wants me to only use a certain portion of the background instead of just setting the entire picture? Thanks,

More than likely, the version of Mobile Shell you have is either not designed for WVGA or there is a setting somewhere in there that allows you to change it and you haven't found it yet.
Am not a expert on mobile Shell, but according to their website, the latest version (3.5) does support WVGA.
Another option is to, if you have Adobe Photo shop or something similar, scale down the entire picture to the size it reccomends.
Otherwise, if you have a version earlier then 3.5, maybe you could upgrade and see if it makes any difference.

Phone wakes up for reminders/appts

Any way to stop this.. I used the registry to stop it from waking up due to my magnetic case.. i have the notifications to make a noise and flash the led... i dont want it to come out of standby to tell me about an upcoming appt (the dismiss/snooze notice) cause i keep pocket running apps or pocket dialing my sense 2.5 front shortcuts!
ANY HELP would be greatly appreciated!

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Any way to stop this.. I used the registry to stop it from waking up due to my magnetic case.. i have the notifications to make a noise and flash the led... i dont want it to come out of standby to tell me about an upcoming appt (the dismiss/snooze notice) cause i keep pocket running apps or pocket dialing my sense 2.5 front shortcuts!
ANY HELP would be greatly appreciated!
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Try this: Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Event: Reminders > uncheck "Display message on screen."
I hope that solves the problem!

thanks! i will try that and get back to you
UPDATE: damn... this doesnt work... for "reminders" in settings/notifications i only have flash light, play sound, and vibrate selected and the screen/phone wakes up/resumes and if it had been in my pocket or whatever i'd be calling people.. any other ideas?

mrwebsmith said:
thanks! i will try that and get back to you
UPDATE: damn... this doesnt work... for "reminders" in settings/notifications i only have flash light, play sound, and vibrate selected and the screen/phone wakes up/resumes and if it had been in my pocket or whatever i'd be calling people.. any other ideas?
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Sorry about that. I just noticed myself right now that my phone woke up for a reminder.
Hmm... I don't know, but I think you should get a working screenlocker. I use TouchLockPro (now you can use your zoombar as an unlock bar). I set it up so that when the screen wakes, the phone instantly locks.
If you decide to use TouchLockPro, the settings are a little hard to understand (I followed the Settings instructions in the developer's website). If you need help with the settings, or if you want an example of my settings, feel free to PM me.

try this ..

warlock...thanks for that cab.. but it didnt work...at least not for calendar reminders.. i will test it on txt msgs as that would help as well
sumflipnol: thanks.. i guess i will have to look into screen locks.. its just annoying cause im fine with the "screen lock except for power button" behavior of winmo.. but if it could just stay asleep for the reminders (other than the sound/led/vibrate options) it'd be perfect
ill let you know if that locking program works out for me

hold down the end button
locks the screen wont but dial or open apps when the screen wakes up

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locks the screen wont but dial or open apps when the screen wakes up
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I believe you're referring to the default Windows Mobile SmartLock (auto-lock). I have that on my phone, and it's not very reliable. My phone sometimes wakes up on my desk, and I notice that Sense2.5 is active (SmartLock obviously failed to auto-launch the WM screenlock). From my week-long experience with TouchLockPro, the screen locks immediately without that small lag, and it's very consistent.

There must be a way!
I'd like to ressurrect this thread to see if anyone has any further ideas.
I also prefer to just use the power-button method of putting my phone into standby rather than mess around with screen locks or anything.
I've disabled wake-up-on-SMS. But it still wakes up whenever there's a reminder for an appointment.
Surely there's a way to stop this behaviour!....

It's an open question, so far...
As many of you, I would like to disable the device wake up for reminders. Same as you, I just want the sound and / or light notification for them.
I've been searching WEB, all XDA forum and my phone registry but I haven't found anything useful for reminders, just for SMS.
The same issue has been posted in other places (for example, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=615633) but there's no final answer yet.
Definitely, lock screen is not enough, because if the device wakes up and the screen turns on, it can keep on for a long time (caused by the screen being pressed because the phone movement inside the pocket) and battery drains very fast.

Screen lock sought

I'm going mad here trying to find a screen Lock suitable to my needs. Can anyone please help? I want a simple screen lock, nothing fancy, no bells'n'whistles, but with the following two essential features.
1) Screen Lock is quickly unlocked with a simple screen swipe as soon as I either power on or slide open the device (ideally slide-opening would automatically unlock without requiring a swipe).
2) When running on external power the screen should unlock automatically and remain unlocked.
I've now auditioned PocketShield, Sunscape, TouchLockPro and S2U2 all of which may have one or other of those features, but none have both.
Can anyone please recommend anything else? Thank you.

1) In Pocketshield you can auto unlock by sliding QWERTY out if you create the following reg key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Pocketshield\ROTATE=1 (DWORD)
2) There is an option for it in settings.

Thanks for that. I've decided to give PocketShield another go and am auditioning it at the moment. Also I've changed my UI from Winterface to Spb Mobile Shell 3.5 because I wondered whether Winterface wasn't working well with PocketShield.
But here's my issue with PocketShield, perhaps somebody can please help?
If I open the slide keyboard I am able for a second or two to use the device as if it were not locked, before PocketShield "remembers" that is supposed to be on and then suddenly the device gets upset, slow, stuck, until I can find and unlock pocketShield. If I first power on and then slide open the keyboard, everything is fine, but everything stays in portrait, even though the keyboard is open. I can unlock PocketShield properly (though sideways) but then everything else is displayed in portrait, even though the keyboard is open.
I tried the reg tweak suggested, but found that that just caused even more confusion; portrait trying to change the landscape at the same time as the UI was trying to appear, at the same time as PocketShield was trying to put up its lock screen, basically chaos!
Any thoughts anyone, please?

My S2U2 v 2.42, has both of those options. Just go to Settings>Others
1. Action when connect to power>Unlock
2. Unlock when Keyboard is opened>On

Thanks. I've been trying out PocketShield all day and it seems that in its simplest terms there is a delay between switching on the unit and PocketShield realising it should be locking the screen, during which time it is possible to start an action which is then instantly stopped when PocketShield kicks in. Ridiculous.
I'll give S2U2 another shot now, cheers.

Smart unlock, its in the software worth installing section, does exactly what you want

I'm getting very frustrated here and beginning to think that my problem is nothing to do with one screen lock program or another, but with my unit.
Whichever screen lock I install, roughly 60% of the time the lock works as it should, but about 40% of the time there is a short period between powering on and the screen lock preventing me from doing anything. During this time it's possible to use the unit normally for a second or two until the screen lock kicks in, at which point often the unit gets confused, actions jam, and I often end up having to soft reset.
With all of the locks I've tried, if I open the keyboard and THEN power on, this also causes confusion.
Can anybody possibly shed any light on all this, please?

Could be that one of your installed applications is subscribed to the power on event and performs a very intensive processing each time device is turned on, delaying other subscriber apps such as lock screens. You might want to try uninstalling one by one to see if any culprit. Last resource is hard reset.

Thanks Pckshd. To be honest I've just had a rough day with the phone: it froze last night and on soft reset wouldn't boot up. This morning was the same story so eventually I was forced to do a hard reset. Then my most recent backup wouldn't restore, claiming there wasn't enough memory in the phone (how can that be? It was backed up from the phone!). Eventually I had to rebuild everything and right now haven't dared install any of the screen lock programs!
Is there not a registry entry anywhere that would show me which programs are taking priority over power on? My UI of choice, Winterface, as its own screen Lock, which is almost 100% reliable but regrettably continues to run went on mains power (I want one that unlocks on mains power, the desired feature that started all this off in the first place).

SMS/MMS Face Unlock Issues

I am currently using Go SMS for my txt application. I have it setup to show a popup of a received txt message over the lock screen so I can quickly reply. If I look at the txt, and reply or close it out right away, everything is fine, but if I let it sit for a few seconds, and the screen turns off, when unlocking the screen, the camera doesn't kick on for face detection. The workaround that I have found to get past the lock screen is to press the Emergency Call button, then the back button, then it allows me to use the pattern lock screen to unlock my phone. Has anyone else experienced this?
Just a little more background, I'm running the stock ROM, and the phone is rooted.