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Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.
chongbh said:
Anyone know what is the best setting for smooth video playback when viewing in Touch Pro 2?
I have download the Transformers 2 Trailer in FLV format and playback on my Touch Pro 2 but it seems to be laggy.
Anyone can advise me whether it is the video format problem or the phone memory problem as I have installed many applications.
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
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Can you give a link to the same video and i will try it ?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7InTpNWJ4HQ
Can only get on youtube through my Rhodium at work but isn't that video HD?
It's got a pretty fast processor for a phone but it's still only 533MHz, it can't playback HD content!
I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?
Yea i have no issues at all with any video format with coreplayer with the exception of mkvs.
mnico said:
I've seen a couple of DivX movies (700MB each) on my TP2 and I have no lag issues...
In fact, I did had that, but back then I was using the player supplied with DivX codecs for Windows Mobile. Once I started using Core Player, the "lag" was gone.
I'll try that YouTube HD video in FLV format and get back to you.
BTW, what player are you using?
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I am also using Core Player for playing back the above FLV format file.
Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.
The HTC player will playback mp4's encoded with H.264, so long as they're Standard Definition with stereo audio.
mnico said:
Sorry for the delay guys, but during my video speed testing , I found that although Core Player is supposed to play MP4 files (so they say), on my TP2 Core Player says "Player: Video codec (AVC aka H.264) not supported by the player!". So it seems that I have no H.264 codecs installed, which is strange because the H.264 codec is quite common on DivX. Well, I guess the movies I've been playing were not H.264 encoded.
This happened because I downloaded (without converting) both Transformers 2 trailers (LowRes and HD) from that link. The LowRes version came in FLV format (4MB), and the HD is a 33MB MP4 file. The FLV plays flawlessly without hiccups or delays.
I'm still searching for H.264 codecs for Windows Mobile, and will report back to this topic after installing and testing the video.
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I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.
What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.
thedudelasse said:
What you wanna do is get Coreplayer.
Encode your videos into Divx with vertical res. of 720 or under and keep the bitrate under 1500kb/s.
Great image quality with approx 112% playback speed.
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I have used Coreplayer for playback.
Tried encoding "The Black Knight" Movie in the below format :
1) Width x Height (704 x 296)
2) Bit Rate (64kbs)
3) Audio Format (Lame MP3)
4) Frame Rate (23 frames/second)
5) Data Rate (1031 kbs)
6) video Sample Size (24 bit)
7) Video Compression (XVID)
There is some portion of the playback jerky and not smooth, any problem with the above settings?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.
chongbh said:
I have download the same file again by copying the Videoplayback file in FLV Format from Internet Explorer Temporary Files Folder, file size is 12.2MB instead of 4MB.
How you can get 4MB and how you download the Low Res file? The playback is a bit jerky and not so smooth but after comparing the original one in YouTube, it is also a bit jerky and not smooth so there is nothing wrong with the Touch Pro 2 Playback as the problem lies on the source itself.
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I used a Firefox addon that "strips" the contents out of the pages (videos, sounds, SWF, ...). It can also be used to convert to other video formats while downloading, but I didn't use this feature as I wanted to test with the real deal.
I double-checked just now, and the smaller file (LowRes) is 4.76MB and it's fully functional and it plays 'till the end. The HD is 33,9MB. Perhaps there's a different file version when you stream directly from the internet... it doesn't make much sense, but I'm just guessing.
I didn't had time to continue searching for the right codecs yet. But I'll give it a go tomorrow. I'm sure I was not the 1st to experience this "issue" and the codecs "should" exist somewhere... so I hope.
Aquila-169 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
You could try downloading that little encoding program.
It encodes your files into the perfect format for HTC Album. The user interface of the program is very easy and it encodes your files so that they play with full resolution and a good bitrate. Hope I could have been of help. All credit goes to it's creator.
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Thanks for your recommendation and I recode the video again, it is much smoother playing over the WMP.
Will use this program to encode future DVD or Video for playback in my Touch Pro 2.
8GB micro SD cards are very cheap in Hong Kong - so I don't bother coverting files to mp4 or whatever that's compatible with HD. Instead, I just copy the whole seasons of TV series into HD and use it as PMP (my Archos 605 just died)
Getting Divx Mobile was easy enough (just have to register & download). But I noticed that it takes a while (lag) to skip. Also, when in full screen, it was grainy (pixexls) - not sure this is due to poor quality of original file (downloaded bt)...
Any other suggestions? I don't mind paying - but want the best video quality possible.
p.s. don't worry about battery life either: US$20 for a spare battery and I'm never far from a outlet (HK is just so tiny)
try coreplayer..
Try Coreplayer. its the best video player ive found so far. much faster then divxplayer
coreplayer is best. And htc's graphics are excellent
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coreplayer is best. And htc's graphics are excellent
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Like all the above posts....Coreplayer, the only app you need to view those common video formats.
I have found coreplayer to be very laggy myself....Media Player plays my HD files with no issues at all......I never could understand all the fuss
Coreplayer does not support grafic accelerator of HD. Native video player is better with suitable video properties.
See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Klael said:
Coreplayer does not support grafic accelerator of HD. Native video player is better with suitable video properties.
See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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I agree...!!!
actually I am a bit confused (very confused I think...)
I downloaded that Encoder - but it seemed like a tool for converting the formats (not a software installed on HTC to play movies) Correct me if I am wrong. So how does that help in anyway?? I am using core now (found a cab version with flash support - so it seemed convenient so far)
I'd like to try Encoder - I have seen many knowledgeable ppl talking about it so I must be missing something here... Why does converting help?? What does "native player is better" mean?? And how does Encoder make use of HTC hardware accelerators if it isnt even installed on HTC????
pls help...
billyhongkong said:
actually I am a bit confused (very confused I think...)
I downloaded that Encoder - but it seemed like a tool for converting the formats (not a software installed on HTC to play movies) Correct me if I am wrong. So how does that help in anyway?? I am using core now (found a cab version with flash support - so it seemed convenient so far)
I'd like to try Encoder - I have seen many knowledgeable ppl talking about it so I must be missing something here... Why does converting help?? What does "native player is better" mean?? And how does Encoder make use of HTC hardware accelerators if it isnt even installed on HTC????
pls help...
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Latest HTC devices have good video capabilities but 3rd party video players do not support this hardware (yet).
Album or Windows Media Player are meaned by native video player. But they have also some limitations naturally. You should have compatible frame rate and bitrate to get maximum performance.
So, the best way to see good video on Touch HD is to convert any video file with proper settings and watch it by album or Windows Media Player.
now i get it... tried it last night on SD setting. My 350MB file converted into 200MB file and played beautifully on Album.
thx guys for helping me see the light
i have purchased core player and despite numerous request and lots of tinkering i still cant get it to play anything smoothly
films just stutter along
im converting dvds i have ripped on pc to mpeg 4 files with encoder
a typical file is converted to 720 x400 all standard settings and it still just stutters and the audio is well out of synce
even the built in player does a better job of it (but thats not perfect
can some one suggest the best way to convert them to play on core player
and what settings they use to get it play smoothly
thanks for any help
If by mpeg4 you mean H.264 then your best bet is the built in player (be it WMP or Album) as coreplayer doesn't support H.264 hardware acceleration on the TP2 (most current Qualcomm chips to be exact). If you wish to use coreplayer use Xvid (or Divx can also be okay).
There's actually a review stating the best settings for coreplayer. I don't remember more than that at the moment. sorry. But good luck
can you recommend a good converter for converting vob and ts files into xvid
thanks
Pocketdivxencoder is what I use. It is a great application for converting videos. And I'm guessing from the vob and ts files that your converting from DVDs
I've always liked super video encoder from erightsoft. It's free so it's a good option to try out.
Hey guys i am trying to find the best solution converting my movies and watching them on htc desire. i have the subtitles into srt files (greek language) but i can't convert a movie into mp4 with subtitles playable. i tried the touch hd encoder but they appear with strange letters. with xilisoft there is no good quality.
if there is anyone that can help me with settings on one of the following programs and how to attach subtitles to desire please help me. i have:
xilisoft video converter ultimate
videora for android
total video converter
Handbrake should do the job. http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
Is it possible to 'hard burn' the srt subtitles in a movie in handbrake? Always thought this is not possible with handbrake..
edit: Check this: http://trac.handbrake.fr/wiki/Subtitles
SRT subtitle import – You can import SRT files into HandBrake through the “Subtitles tab”.
o SRT files are pass-through only. They cannot be burnt into the video.
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So what you could do is to find a converter from srt to Bitmap (VOBSUB), and then use that instead. Because handbrake is able to 'burn' those into the video.
OR! Use a player that supports subtitles... Is there one for Android that works properly?
total converter can add subtitles but i can't find a good setting for size and quality. i think the resolution being 800x480 but with low bitrate gives bad result. anyone with good settings ?
some just cant read properly
HandBrake has two methods of subtitle OUTPUT:
• Hard Burn: This means the subtitles are written on top of the image permanently. They cannot be turned on or off like on the DVD.
• Soft Subtitles: This means the subtitles will appear as separate selectable tracks in your output file. With the correct playback software, you’ll be able to enable / disable these subtitles as required.
Please read my quote from the handbrake wiki and stand corrected. The OP wants .srt subtitles in this movie.
So instead of telling people they cannot read please tell us which app can play soft subtitles.
I already thought of the other solution for handbrake, convert the srt's to bitmaps and then hard burn them.
edit: fast google showed you can convert srt to vobsub using SubtitleCreator. Open srt and then save as vobsub. Then use handbrake to convert and add the subtitles to your movie.
As for total converter, I have no idea. Cranking up the bitrate doesn't work? If space is not an issue that is usually the easiest way of getting better image quality.
I have qouted from the link you provided.
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I have qouted from the link you provided.
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Yes, and that continues stating that you cannot hard burn srt files. I have tried and it's indeed not possible. When you import a .srt file the 'burned in' option is greyed out.
Come on man, telling others to read while not doing that yourself is kinda awkward
My 'solution' doesn't work either. Guess handbrake cannot load external subtitles perhaps? I'm sure it works from a dvd, but so far external subs have not been burned into my movies.
Something else you might try is to download 'mVideoPlayer' from the market. Apparantly that one should be able to use .srt files.
Gave it a quick test and it seems to be working! So perhaps this is a better option than to hard burn those subs into your movies.
lambrospower said:
Hey guys i am trying to find the best solution converting my movies and watching them on htc desire. i have the subtitles into srt files (greek language) but i can't convert a movie into mp4 with subtitles playable. i tried the touch hd encoder but they appear with strange letters. with xilisoft there is no good quality.
if there is anyone that can help me with settings on one of the following programs and how to attach subtitles to desire please help me. i have:
xilisoft video converter ultimate
videora for android
total video converter
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Use Mp4ForHD.
I use FormatFactory http://www.formatoz.com/
It can embed subtitles, has presets for most devices, unfortunately it doesn't support the native (800*480) resolution of the Desire but being an actively developed (and frequently updated) software I expect it to do so soon.
moshbeard said:
Handbrake should do the job.
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Most opensource softare is just benefit from free like handbrake. On the other hand, it is difficult to use for beginner, lack support and weak stability. handbrake attend technology and ignore user experience. I consider many other charge program are better than it.
lambrospower said:
Hey guys i am trying to find the best solution converting my movies and watching them on htc desire. i have the subtitles into srt files (greek language) but i can't convert a movie into mp4 with subtitles playable. i tried the touch hd encoder but they appear with strange letters. with xilisoft there is no good quality.
if there is anyone that can help me with settings on one of the following programs and how to attach subtitles to desire please help me. i have:
xilisoft video converter ultimate
videora for android
total video converter
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so far the most effective combination that has proved in practice: Rock Player + Video Converter. Unfortunately, both programs must be purchased but the fact that real intelligence work perfectly on dezire HD. I recommend everyone to at least try, as both trials.
Try this
Kigo Video Converter Ultimate is a newly released video converter designed specifically for Mac users to convert nearly all sorts of videos into whatever format they want. As a Mac user, this is really a good news for you.
Google this
Total video converter. this program rock's everithing you can do everithing subs, any format, any res. audio, video, customize video , customize subs just everithing
RockPlayer does support subtitles (.srt, don't know about .sub) and it works flawlessly. You can choose color and size of the subtitle in the settings.
Try mVideoPlayer from the market which is currently free...
Convert your video using whichever method you prefer to MP4 / M4V and copy it to your device (I prefer Handbrake).
Either copy your .srt subtitles to the same folder or else mVideoPlayer can search for subtitles for the video and download them - you just choose whether or not to display them.
It works well on my Advent Vega tablet, but I haven't tried the app on my Desire yet as I am waiting for it to come back from repair after a "bouncing down a flight of stairs" incident!
What are good picture settings and average bitrates for movies in handbrake?
320X240? but what about the average bitrate?
Should i use the hardware or software decoding on rockplayer?
I find MX Player Pro is the best option when I dont have time to convert movies with .srt files. It plays all formats and support subtitle files!
You may try this one that helped me before: Asoftech Video Converter
I'm wondering what is the optimal encoding specs that would work on the Desire Z?
I have the Rebuild of Evangelion 2.22 on video, but it's in 1080p and it's 6gigs in size. I'm wondering what's the best specs for me to run the video file on my desire z smoothly.
I'm looking at size, bitrate, encoder, and audio specs.
Convert to avi and install either vplayer or rockplayer. No extra bs needed with apps like that.
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I'm still in need of the resolution and bitrate. I'm probably going to be encoding the file in mp4 (h.264)
Like I said you don't need to do anything besides convert to avi. I play bluray rips of very larg size and works fine. When I first started adding videos I was asking the same question you are. Use one of those 2 players.
Or you could google your question and find other answers way faster than waiting for responses here
Why do you want to use mp4? Rockplayer and vplayer play tons more codecs. Less compression=better video/audio
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I use MP4 because it is 90% more reliable than other codecs out there and the quality to compression ratio is pretty good. I would like to be able to fit a feature length movie in the small 8gb card I have on my phone (4gigs available atm)
And i have already searched google, nothing really came up. maybe i'm using the wrong keywords, but there was nothing that mentioned resolution, bitrate, etc.
besides, watching 1080p on such a small screen doesn't make it look any better as opposed to it being watched in 720p or so since it's so small.
I've had the best results by using Handbrake and converting the video to mp4 (ffmpeg) format and resizing it to the Z's native resolution. Settings are pretty much default with around 1500kbps (could be too much depending on the source).
sounds good. I'm probably going to leave it at 720p for safety's sake, but I'll re-encode the file to 640x480 for comparison.
I find that I get better video quality results using SUPER than I do with Handbrake, I'm sure it's just a settings thing since they both use the same tools under the hood.
Was searching for a guide as well, from this article, Desire Z has been known to support h264 with baseline profile at level 3
check the link for full details and basic handbrake guide http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/converting_video_for_the_htc_desire_z.cfm