What does it eat my RAM? - P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development

Hi
I have got an Artemis (MDA Compact 3) with WM6Proffesional and SPB Mobile Shell 2.1.4. When I do it soft reset I have got about 25.4MB RAM, but after 1 or 2 minutes (during this time I don't touch Artemis) RAM level has gone down to 23.5MB. After next 10 minutes level of RAM is 20-21MB.
I wonder what does it eat the RAM?
And is there any way, except ROM change, to get more free RAM in Artemis? Perhaps sdme modifications in registry?
regards
Mario

And is there any way, except ROM change, to get more free RAM in Artemis? Perhaps sdme modifications in registry?
regards
Mario[/QUOTE]
Why you against ROM change?
What rom u using?
I swore by my o2 premium rom for the last 3 years having tried mechles roms, b&B etc and always went back. Now, thanks to the likes of Sun_dream and 'DJ' I have just installed wm6.5 rom beta with positive results!
is it that you're afraid to flash? for what reason?
it can fix probs!
I'll try and help but really, it's easier to change, don't be afraid of change... it's the way to a better system!
Sp1r1t

MarioM1974 said:
Hi
I have got an Artemis (MDA Compact 3) with WM6Proffesional and SPB Mobile Shell 2.1.4. When I do it soft reset I have got about 25.4MB RAM, but after 1 or 2 minutes (during this time I don't touch Artemis) RAM level has gone down to 23.5MB. After next 10 minutes level of RAM is 20-21MB.
regards
Mario
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Have you tried removing SPBapps?
I've never used them since testing and finding too mem intesive!
Sp1r1t

steee.graham said:
Why you against ROM change?
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I afraid to lose a warranty.
What rom u using?
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Original ERA Rom: 3.15.118.1.PLK, RadioROM:03.06.90, Protocol version: 4.1.13.50.
This ROM is enough fast and stability for me (I overclock a processor to 260MHz), many programs work good, but there is too little a program memory, and for example Opera Mobile 9.5beta is often crushed with alert about little memory.

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Has anybody overclocked Artemis with omap clock?

Hi Artemis owners. I want to know if any of you has tried the various overclocking versions of omapclock on your device. I just cancelled my order for trinity and paced one for artemis. Initial decision to go for trinity was more for speed, but I just changed my mind.
Do we still need to dope this gadget for speed?
Victor
Yeah.. this is an almost perfect device for me.. but the speed turns me off. Someone told me it works faster than a stock 416Mhz device after overclocking it... and he used an 818pro before.
So victor.. you've used the 818pro.. what are your views on the OMAP processor?
The battery statusand omap clock program by Ikarius in the prophet section was super on my prophet. Now that he has added onto it I believe it would be even better
Victor
The weak processor is also a big turnoff for me in this phone. The Spb Pocket Plus today screen with the large icons I think is perfect for the mouse, but it seems the Artemis cant even handle it at times.
Neptune said: [The weak processor is also a big turnoff for me in this phone. The Spb Pocket Plus today screen with the large icons I think is perfect for the mouse, but it seems the Artemis cant even handle it at times.]
Have you overclocked?
victoradjei said:
Neptune said: [The weak processor is also a big turnoff for me in this phone. The Spb Pocket Plus today screen with the large icons I think is perfect for the mouse, but it seems the Artemis cant even handle it at times.]
Have you overclocked?
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No but i'm going to try that right now. Any suggestions...
neptune said:
No but i'm going to try that right now. Any suggestions...
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Please do try and multitask after/before overclocking and compare the difference..
Stuffs like keep your MP3s playing in the background while running tomtom or surfing the net. Let us know if you notice any unacceptable lag. Thanks!
Has anybody overclocked yet???
Overclock Artemis (P3300)
I overclocked it and using it for the last twodays. Used omapclock @ 252mhz, no problems so far.
My experience is the same as Cavadias, I have been using my Orbit with Omap clock running at 252MhZ and it works fine with applications such as TOM TOM 6 and push mail in the background.
Cheers
LB
Lord Buckingham said:
My experience is the same as Cavadias, I have been using my Orbit with Omap clock running at 252MhZ and it works fine with applications such as TOM TOM 6 and push mail in the background.
Cheers
LB
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In that case, those who do not need UMTS have an alternative to Trinity if speed is the main deciding factor
To clarify I used the Omapclockplus v0.0.4 continuous overclocking for your wizard (See threat). It works.
I've overclocked compact 3 to 252MHz, it's stable to run tomtom6, as 262MHz cannot run tomtom, but other programs is OK. If using file explorer to opened windows, it was almost need 45sec to explore all files as normal MHz, when overclocked to 525MHz it will be fasted about 10 sec.
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I've overclocked compact 3 to 252MHz, it's stable to run tomtom6, as 262MHz cannot run tomtom, but other programs is OK. If using file explorer to opened windows, it was almost need 45sec to explore all files as normal MHz, when overclocked to 525MHz it will be fasted about 10 sec.
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I overclocked it for the last three days(Dopod P800W). Used BatteryStatus omapclock @ 286mhz, no problems so far.
Can you feed back on battery life with your 286, and usage: whether normal phone use or gps navigation?
new-boy said:
I've overclocked compact 3 to 252MHz, it's stable to run tomtom6, as 262MHz cannot run tomtom, but other programs is OK. If using file explorer to opened windows, it was almost need 45sec to explore all files as normal MHz, when overclocked to 525MHz it will be fasted about 10 sec.
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There is a known issue here with the windows file structure so even if the device is not over clocked this folder will take ages to display the contents. Using resco explorer seems to be quicker !
Cheers
LB
ivan12 said:
I overclocked it for the last three days(Dopod P800W). Used BatteryStatus omapclock @ 286mhz, no problems so far.
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Ya managed to get the Dopod already? Seems to be it's only avail in China and Taiwan. Still waiting for it's launch in Singapore.
May I know whats the AKU version of your device? Thanks!
Guys.. I got a quick question..
When using BatteryStatus.. if the plugin is active under my Today settings, but under options, I untick the "show splugin"
Does it mean my device is still being overclocked? Any other methods to check if it's running at full throttle?
Thanks!
I have been overclocking at 232 and it works fine. Judging from what others' say I could probably push it higher.
I would also like to know if the program works in the background even when it is not set to sho on the today screen.
MasK said:
Guys.. I got a quick question..
When using BatteryStatus.. if the plugin is active under my Today settings, but under options, I untick the "show splugin"
Does it mean my device is still being overclocked? Any other methods to check if it's running at full throttle?
Thanks!
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If you have TCPMP installed, you could check the clock speed in TCPMP's general settings page when you have the BatteryStatus plugin hidden. This tends to report slower speeds than Omapclock, but at least you will see if there is a difference. (Mine says 240 in Omapclock and 225 in TCPMP). Good luck.

CPU overclock

does exists a software specially for overclocking my P3300 CPU? I tried xscalar, or something like that, but it takes my device only on 196 mhz, starting from 133mhz (or this 133 is over my 200 mhz by default?)
ady_uaic said:
does exists a software specially for overclocking my P3300 CPU? I tried xscalar, or something like that, but it takes my device only on 196 mhz, starting from 133mhz (or this 133 is over my 200 mhz by default?)
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Download BatterStatus Extended V. 1.04 Beta nightly build here. Every owner of P3300 has this installed. For more info... search this thread.
i've downloaded, and installed it. but my drain battery is very very very faster, in 5 minutes, drained 9%.
so what can i do?
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so what can i do?
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Charging would be an excellent option !
athanaso77 said:
Every owner of P3300 has this installed
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not every.....i don't use it
petervbeck said:
not every.....i don't use it
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Everytime I feel my Artemis needs an Overclocking - I give it a ROM straight up its slithery USB Hole !!!!
hee hee hee !
Look, just configure your ARTEMIS BatteryStatus,CpuScalar for 120, 201, 247 with this configuration your battery last for ever because when it doesnt need speed goes to the lowest speed, only if you are running aplication the overclock take action.
Hope it helps,
Cheers,
agfsilva said:
Look, just configure your ARTEMIS BatteryStatus,CpuScalar for 120, 201, 247 with this configuration your battery last for ever because when it doesnt need speed goes to the lowest speed, only if you are running aplication the overclock take action.
Hope it helps,
Cheers,
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Thats cool, thanks!
If you can avoid it, don't overclock!
As stated earlier in this thread...
I've found that overclocking, even with scaling, seriously affects battery performance.
I was until today running Vanilla 2.0, which was ok until I added batterystatus, with either fixed or scale doverclocking - both of which drained the battery like crazy.
If battery status is an isuse, use a lean, clean rom and don't load up loads of stuff you don't need - then the device will perform faster... I've just switched back to the Dopod WM6 release, and unclocked it runs everyhting I need absolutely fine.
To me, overclocking is like the salad bar in Pizza Hut.... I ain't going near it!
TangerineTractor said:
To me, overclocking is like the salad bar in Pizza Hut.... I ain't going near it!
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lol, thats good! Fair point, I'll keep an eye on the battery life.
Perhaps changing the max speed to the standard speed, but keep the low idle speed set will improve power consumption?
John Boy said:
lol, thats good! Fair point, I'll keep an eye on the battery life.
Perhaps changing the max speed to the standard speed, but keep the low idle speed set will improve power consumption?
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I think you're probably better off just not installing stuff you don't need, and where posisble install to your SD card, keeping RAM as free as possible - that will give you a cleaner machine and reduce the need to be tempted to consider trying to overclock... make sure that you have low standby and backlight off settings when on battery use, and keep your device on charge overnight so you always have a devcent level of charge in the morning. If you need to, buy a desktop charger from ebay for a few quid, and stick your phone on it when you get home...
TangerineTractor said:
I think you're probably better off just not installing stuff you don't need, and where posisble install to your SD card, keeping RAM as free as possible - that will give you a cleaner machine and reduce the need to be tempted to consider trying to overclock... make sure that you have low standby and backlight off settings when on battery use, and keep your device on charge overnight so you always have a devcent level of charge in the morning. If you need to, buy a desktop charger from ebay for a few quid, and stick your phone on it when you get home...
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Thanks for the advice. The CPU clocking is being done with Battery Status, which is part of the ROM, so If power consumption continues to be a problem I'll disable the over-clocking function from the Battery Status Options.
As for charging I'm fine, I have an in-car charger and a 40 minute commute every morning/evening
Thanks again,
John
i've got a question about batterystatus, maybe some1 in this post knows the answer:
is there a way that batterystatus keeps the overclock setting while suspended? i would love to UNDERclock my cpu to 123mhz when suspended, so safe extra battery, but seems that everytime i suspend, BS sets it back to 201.
i tried the options, but i can't figure out if it's possible to over/under clock while suspended.
Have you tried the CPUScaler option? It's build in to version 1.04
For the original FAQ etc goto the BatteryStatus website. Or read more in this thread.
i haven't try it. i have artemis 2.2
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I think you're probably better off just not installing stuff you don't need,
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Well, although I can't uninstall the battery bar I have disabled the over clocking! I sat yesterday and could almost watch the power drain in real time, even with the Max speed set to 201Mhz. I switched the function off and the battery is lasting a lot longer again.
Moral: Don't over-clock at all!
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Well, although I can't uninstall the battery bar I have disabled the over clocking! I sat yesterday and could almost watch the power drain in real time, even with the Max speed set to 201Mhz. I switched the function off and the battery is lasting a lot longer again.
Moral: Don't over-clock at all!
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I've tried ALL the cooked ROMS here - I have a 'spare' device for testing...
I use my device for work emails, sat nav, personal mails, web browsing, music, and as my phone. I pair it up with a Sony Blootooth car stereo.
So... aside from a few games, what else do you need to do with your phone? I'd suggets that most of the stuff loaded onto some of the ROMS is completely superfluous and just clogs up the device - things like the touch cube are really tarty overheads. Over the past year, I have played with most stuff that's out there, free and paid, and have a pretty default set of standard stuff that I load onto a clean RM. I was using Vanilla 2.0, but that still ate battery, so when I read that the Dopod shipped WM6 ROm was fast and bare, I thought I'd give it a go, and I haven't looked back...
Here's what I have on it, all running from the Stoarage Card where possible:
CloseAll
Hibernate
Hbutton
TodayAgenda (enhanced Calendar on Today)
Sunnysoft Contacts (one fingered dialling in the car)
TotalCommander
TomTom 6
Coreplayer (gives far better bluetooth audio streaming, and plays videos)
iphone keypad (default one buttons too small in the car)
SamsungTime (big clock on Today, but doesn't have the weight of HTC)
With all of this, I get brilliant battery life and a more than adequate response time without any overclocking, and over 20mb useable ROM.
TangerineTractor,
Why have you choosen the Dopod WM6 rom?
After having that rom I switched to the official Europe WM6 rom. No big differences, but with Ms Office 2007 on board, now the Word and Excel files are fully compatible with my desktop PC. The only disadvantage was that I had to install AudioManager separatelly. (But, in fact, I rather use CorePlayer.) It's a stable and reasonable fast rom. Storage Memory is low but each prog is in Storage Card if applicable. And there is very low RAM leaking (after a day of usage it's still above 20 M -- and Spb Mobile Shell runs constantly!).
Have you tried the Europe ver.?
ctibor said:
TangerineTractor,
Why have you choosen the Dopod WM6 rom?
After having that rom I switched to the official Europe WM6 rom. No big differences, but with Ms Office 2007 on board, now the Word and Excel files are fully compatible with my desktop PC. The only disadvantage was that I had to install AudioManager separatelly. (But, in fact, I rather use CorePlayer.) It's a stable and reasonable fast rom. Storage Memory is low but each prog is in Storage Card if applicable. And there is very low RAM leaking (after a day of usage it's still above 20 M -- and Spb Mobile Shell runs constantly!).
Have you tried the Europe ver.?
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The Dopod WWE ROM from the Wiki link has Office Mobile on it, and to be honest, I hardly use that anyway... which do you mean by the Europe version - maybe I'll give it a blast..??

using storage card as extra ram/swap

When I run skyfire and I'm and my text open, I start having to close stuff in order for the other to run. Anyway I can run the programs in a temp swap type environment on my microsd card?
I'm pretty sure you can't - maybe you can with a 3rd party app, not sure - certainly not by default.
Unfortunately 64Mb RAM is a bit low for all the new apps that are coming out these days, I had Iris Browser which was pretty unusable because of all the RAM it used when loading large pages. Shame, but that's what you get from a 3 year old device I guess!
Yep not possible has been talked about over in Dev, the best you could do to say claim more RAM is by decreasing the PagePool, this all depends what ROM you are using to how much you want to PagePool....
Kavana\Ricky can drop to about 4.5MB PagePool so aprx 27MB free RAM.
All info found in RoseROM Remade thread bear in mind what you gain in RAM you loose in speed.
Trial and error, good luck
No, but I noticed when I run game emulators and roms from my storage card games runs far far better then when I had them on the system ram. The difference is incredible
Much better frame rate then accessing the slow ram. If you turn wifi off it works even better. Perfect for Final Burn Alpha with sound on which had an unplayable speed before i got a card. Now its very playable.
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
ojideagu said:
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
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that's defiantly a good point and perhaps explains why mp3's play at a faster rate then they're supposed to from my memory card but the same songs trimmed and used as ringtones play at normal rate when saved on my device
Yeh its def a significant difference. I also overclock to 264 when running games, fully stable.
ojideagu said:
No, but I noticed when I run game emulators and roms from my storage card games runs far far better then when I had them on the system ram. The difference is incredible
Much better frame rate then accessing the slow ram. If you turn wifi off it works even better. Perfect for Final Burn Alpha with sound on which had an unplayable speed before i got a card. Now its very playable.
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ojideagu said:
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
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jdshifflett said:
that's defiantly a good point and perhaps explains why mp3's play at a faster rate then they're supposed to from my memory card but the same songs trimmed and used as ringtones play at normal rate when saved on my device
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This is all because by running this stuff from the sd card, lightens the memory on the device, therefore it runs faster than if you have this stuff saved on the device and running the ram also, you should always try to keep the device's memory(storage) as light as possible, by installing as much as possible on the sd card.
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
roloracer said:
This is all because by running this stuff from the sd card, lightens the memory on the device, therefore it runs faster than if you have this stuff saved on the device and running the ram also, you should always try to keep the device's memory(storage) as light as possible, by installing as much as possible on the sd card.
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
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So i did get seen
Follow on from roloracer: to which is why if we have programs that load @ startup go on internal, everything else on external, except Movie Player to take load off SD.
stylez said:
So i did get seen
Follow on from roloracer: to which is why if we have programs that load @ startup go on internal, everything else on external, except Movie Player to take load off SD.
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I know every time you post, you never go unseen by me my friend
I totally forgot to email the .xml file to you, I'll send it now.
roloracer said:
I know every time you post, you never go unseen by me my friend
I totally forgot to email the .xml file to you, I'll send it now.
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Coolio i know bruv
Got file just bout to ganda will hit you back
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Coolio i know bruv
Got file just bout to ganda will hit you back
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No rush, I'm getting ready to take the wife to the movies, so I won't be on much.
roloracer said:
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
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Do games run better with that much ram free or is the speed im getting
from the SD card right now the max Speed. Im put off running a custom
rom as they seem buggy from what people say. Someones always got something not working.
Id only consider flashing a homemade Rom if it improved game performance.
I dont need any more speed for anything else and I know everything will
work with the official windows 6 Rom I have.
ojideagu said:
Do games run better with that much ram free or is the speed im getting
from the SD card right now the max Speed. Im put off running a custom
rom as they seem buggy from what people say. Someones always got something not working.
Id only consider flashing a homemade Rom if it improved game performance.
I dont need any more speed for anything else and I know everything will
work with the official windows 6 Rom I have.
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Wouldn't agree with that statement especially as the ammount of peeps with issues is far less than the ammount downloading, yes there has been issues with some ROMs but you will get more performance from a cooked ROM as chefs apply tweaks that M$ don't.
If you have the Official ROM in the STICKY then you can always flash back.
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Wouldn't agree with that statement especially as the ammount of peeps with issues is far less than the ammount downloading, yes there has been issues with some ROMs but you will get more performance from a cooked ROM as chefs apply tweaks that M$ don't.
If you have the Official ROM in the STICKY then you can always flash back.
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Well yeh. Now I have an SD card most of my stuff is on that so
dont have too much hassle replacing everything.
I will try some. Ive got the official rom.

6.5 Insane RAM usage?

I have tried multiple 6.5 ROMs including multiple EnergyROMs and even the official HTC 6.5 ROM and they all have the same problem. Very high memory usage. It just keeps climbing. After one day of pretty normal application usage, I'm at only 40MB free. And having Windows Mobile close things when there is still 20MB free doesn't help either.
gwes.exe starts at below 15MB but blows up to 30MB. What is taking those 15MB? Nothing extra is running then after a soft reset.
Is every 6.5 ROM like this?
Also can I change the limit to when Windows Mobile starts closing programs? It seems that it is set to a percent not a fixed amount of megabytes.
petard said:
I have tried multiple 6.5 ROMs including multiple EnergyROMs and even the official HTC 6.5 ROM and they all have the same problem. Very high memory usage. It just keeps climbing. After one day of pretty normal application usage, I'm at only 40MB free. And having Windows Mobile close things when there is still 20MB free doesn't help either.
gwes.exe starts at below 15MB but blows up to 30MB. What is taking those 15MB? Nothing extra is running then after a soft reset.
Is every 6.5 ROM like this?
Also can I change the limit to when Windows Mobile starts closing programs? It seems that it is set to a percent not a fixed amount of megabytes.
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I should start by saying that I'm no expert, but this is my experience:
I think that some ROMs have better memory usage than others...but this definitely is a commonly-reported problem with lots/most ROMs.
With the current ROM I'm running the memory stays high (>70%) even after a Level-3 clean with cleanRAM -- only a soft-reset releases it.
I've been running WM6.5.1+ ROMs for the past few weeks, mostly Sense 2.5 versions...and I don't remember if milder ROMs are better. I have Activesync (and data) constantly on/connected to my Exchange Server, so maybe that makes it worse -- don't know.
I guess I'm just assuming/hoping that later/more-refined builds will have better memory-management...until then I just put up with it...and soft-reset when I feel like it.
Does anyone know what specifically causes this? I tried pretty much the same EnergyROM on both my Rhodium and Raphael (when I had it) and the Raphael didn't have any of the memory problems the Rhodium has. Same OS version.
Edit: Found this on ppcgeeks, going to try it out.
HKLM\Software\HTC\ResProxy
"ShareMemSize"
Change this value to zero
ResProxy is HTC's method of "Pre-Caching" your applications on the phone, therefore loading times are faster when opening, etc. It just allocates a chunk of your memory for this feature. Problem is, after about a day of not soft-resetting your phone, your idling at 90% or so.
Changing it to 0 will set this as DYNAMIC. So instead of a bunch of pre-set apps being precached IMMEDIATELY, it does it dynamically. It will only raise the memory for the apps that you are currently using, etc.
Keep in mind, changing this REG does not affect speed in terms of opening applications,etc. Performance stays identical.
You will not notice IMMEDIATELY that this tweak has worked. You will notice later in the way when you notice your device won't idle higher than 65-70% usage anymore, and won't even get as high as 90% unless your running mad software on it lol.
Enjoy!
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It makes a huge difference in RAM available when the phone first boots, yet things like the album and calculator are still launching instantly. What useless stuff does this thing do?
petard said:
Does anyone know what specifically causes this? I tried pretty much the same EnergyROM on both my Rhodium and Raphael (when I had it) and the Raphael didn't have any of the memory problems the Rhodium has. Same OS version.
Edit: Found this on ppcgeeks, going to try it out.
It makes a huge difference in RAM available when the phone first boots, yet things like the album and calculator are still launching instantly. What useless stuff does this thing do?
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so where is it that i need to go to do this at ???
petard said:
I have tried multiple 6.5 ROMs including multiple EnergyROMs and even the official HTC 6.5 ROM and they all have the same problem. Very high memory usage. It just keeps climbing. After one day of pretty normal application usage, I'm at only 40MB free. And having Windows Mobile close things when there is still 20MB free doesn't help either.
gwes.exe starts at below 15MB but blows up to 30MB. What is taking those 15MB? Nothing extra is running then after a soft reset.
Is every 6.5 ROM like this?
Also can I change the limit to when Windows Mobile starts closing programs? It seems that it is set to a percent not a fixed amount of megabytes.
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Flash a ROM that cares about your memory.
Disabling push internet and resproxy helps in stock rom, but the memory usage will be still high.
MCbrian said:
I should start by saying that I'm no expert, but this is my experience:
I think that some ROMs have better memory usage than others...but this definitely is a commonly-reported problem with lots/most ROMs.
With the current ROM I'm running the memory stays high (>70%) even after a Level-3 clean with cleanRAM -- only a soft-reset releases it.
I've been running WM6.5.1+ ROMs for the past few weeks, mostly Sense 2.5 versions...and I don't remember if milder ROMs are better. I have Activesync (and data) constantly on/connected to my Exchange Server, so maybe that makes it worse -- don't know.
I guess I'm just assuming/hoping that later/more-refined builds will have better memory-management...until then I just put up with it...and soft-reset when I feel like it.
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In my opinion the WM6.5.x branch uses less memory comparing to WM6.5 branch. However, this is nothing comparing to what a chef is able to manage.
petard said:
gwes.exe starts at below 15MB but blows up to 30MB. What is taking those 15MB? Nothing extra is running then after a soft reset.
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Turn off the WM6.5 lockscreen, it uses a lot of memory as gwes.exe. I may provide you a cab if you wish.
petard said:
Is every 6.5 ROM like this?
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No.
petard said:
Also can I change the limit to when Windows Mobile starts closing programs? It seems that it is set to a percent not a fixed amount of megabytes.
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Yes, of course. It's WM, not an iPhone. Have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637771
Jackos said:
Turn off the WM6.5 lockscreen, it uses a lot of memory as gwes.exe. I may provide you a cab if you wish
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could you please explain how to turn off wm6.5 lockscreen ?
and also what is gwes.exe what is it for & can it be turned off as well ?
If you are still using Energy ROM, using one of the Start Menu replacement options yields big RAM savings. But aside from that, Energy is not "lightweight" in the RAM department. As Jackos suggested, you might try other ROMs.
Doo Doo said:
and also what is gwes.exe what is it for & can it be turned off as well ?
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gwes.exe controls all the window elements. Basically, it is the GUI.
Vic1307 said:
so where is it that i need to go to do this at ???
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No offense, but if you don't recognize those as registry keys and values, you're not ready to be messing with this stuff.
Doo Doo said:
could you please explain how to turn off wm6.5 lockscreen ?
and also what is gwes.exe what is it for & can it be turned off as well ?
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Try this cab.
The gwes.exe cannot be turned off, just like Miami_Son wrote, it's managing the whole GUI.
Miami_Son said:
No offense, but if you don't recognize those as registry keys and values, you're not ready to be messing with this stuff.
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True. My suggestion for him is to choose a custom rom.
Jackos said:
Try this cab
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could you please explain what exactly this cab does, will i not have a lockscreen at all or what ?
just wanted to know before i installed it
Doo Doo said:
could you please explain what exactly this cab does, will i not have a lockscreen at all or what ?
just wanted to know before i installed it
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Just a simple cab that disables the lockscreen in registry. Changes only one registry key.

Desire Z/G2 Reserved RAM amount?

Hello,
as in this post, I'm trying to track the amount of reserved RAM in different devices. Could someone tell me with the app "Free Memory" what's the linux-usable amount of RAM?
poochie2 said:
Hello,
as in this post, I'm trying to track the amount of reserved RAM in different devices. Could someone tell me with the app "Free Memory" what's the linux-usable amount of RAM?
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I couldn't find it in the market, care to provide a link or the author's name?
pub:CocoNuts
Otherwise you can type "free" in the terminal emulator.
Your free memory app returns 372MB
Thanks, I suppose the desire z with the stock rom reports the same amount, if someone can confirm it he already has my thanks
373.2 MB of RAM on my Desire Z with stock ROM (I didn't use Free Memory but Elixir).
Could someone explain to me why it doesn't display 512 MB?
Thanks
It's because part of the RAM is reserved for system use (gpu, radio, camera, ...). Some very similar phoned have the advantage of using less for the same tasks, but 373 is not bad, the nexus is great in that.
Thanks poochie
Just pure curisity: this is different from the way Windows Mobile is managed? I don't remember having ever heard of reserved RAM in WM but I may be wrong...
The few WinMo phones I saw far back in the past don't do this, but to be sure we should ask to someone with one of the newer phones. I would find very interesting to know the RAM stats of Htc's Hd2 with both android and winmo.
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Thanks poochie
Just pure curisity: this is different from the way Windows Mobile is managed? I don't remember having ever heard of reserved RAM in WM but I may be wrong...
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Don't worry, Android is a lot better than managing its memory than WinMo 6.x. WinMo needs to keep a fair bit of free memory or it really starts to bog down. Android can cope with using a lot more of its RAM.
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The few WinMo phones I saw far back in the past don't do this, but to be sure we should ask to someone with one of the newer phones. I would find very interesting to know the RAM stats of Htc's Hd2 with both android and winmo.
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Android no longer boots on my HD2 so I have posted the question on a French forum. Here are the replies I got for total RAM (results given by Elixir):
- SD card with Android MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.6_MDJ_S78.0 (WM ROM: HD2 en ROM Artemis v50): 413.3 MB
- NAND : 410.9 MB
Knowing that the HD2 total RAM is 448 MB this means only about 35 to 38 MB is reserved RAM.
steviewevie said:
Don't worry, Android is a lot better than managing its memory than WinMo 6.x. WinMo needs to keep a fair bit of free memory or it really starts to bog down. Android can cope with using a lot more of its RAM.
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Thanks Stevie. I have also noticed that Android does manage RAM much better than WM so I have no worry. It was just to ensure that I hadn't missed something with the way WM managed its RAM
Now that you guys mention this, I realized that my available memory ( which I believe is ram) barely makes it past 220 when I clear my tasks in my manager . Isn't that extremely low ? .
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No thats what's expected.. Type free into Terminal emulator to see the nimbers these guys are getting

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