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CPU overclock

does exists a software specially for overclocking my P3300 CPU? I tried xscalar, or something like that, but it takes my device only on 196 mhz, starting from 133mhz (or this 133 is over my 200 mhz by default?)

ady_uaic said:
does exists a software specially for overclocking my P3300 CPU? I tried xscalar, or something like that, but it takes my device only on 196 mhz, starting from 133mhz (or this 133 is over my 200 mhz by default?)
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Download BatterStatus Extended V. 1.04 Beta nightly build here. Every owner of P3300 has this installed. For more info... search this thread.

i've downloaded, and installed it. but my drain battery is very very very faster, in 5 minutes, drained 9%.

so what can i do?

ady_uaic said:
so what can i do?
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Charging would be an excellent option !

athanaso77 said:
Every owner of P3300 has this installed
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not every.....i don't use it

petervbeck said:
not every.....i don't use it
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Everytime I feel my Artemis needs an Overclocking - I give it a ROM straight up its slithery USB Hole !!!!
hee hee hee !

Look, just configure your ARTEMIS BatteryStatus,CpuScalar for 120, 201, 247 with this configuration your battery last for ever because when it doesnt need speed goes to the lowest speed, only if you are running aplication the overclock take action.
Hope it helps,
Cheers,

agfsilva said:
Look, just configure your ARTEMIS BatteryStatus,CpuScalar for 120, 201, 247 with this configuration your battery last for ever because when it doesnt need speed goes to the lowest speed, only if you are running aplication the overclock take action.
Hope it helps,
Cheers,
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Thats cool, thanks!

If you can avoid it, don't overclock!
As stated earlier in this thread...
I've found that overclocking, even with scaling, seriously affects battery performance.
I was until today running Vanilla 2.0, which was ok until I added batterystatus, with either fixed or scale doverclocking - both of which drained the battery like crazy.
If battery status is an isuse, use a lean, clean rom and don't load up loads of stuff you don't need - then the device will perform faster... I've just switched back to the Dopod WM6 release, and unclocked it runs everyhting I need absolutely fine.
To me, overclocking is like the salad bar in Pizza Hut.... I ain't going near it!

TangerineTractor said:
To me, overclocking is like the salad bar in Pizza Hut.... I ain't going near it!
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lol, thats good! Fair point, I'll keep an eye on the battery life.
Perhaps changing the max speed to the standard speed, but keep the low idle speed set will improve power consumption?

John Boy said:
lol, thats good! Fair point, I'll keep an eye on the battery life.
Perhaps changing the max speed to the standard speed, but keep the low idle speed set will improve power consumption?
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I think you're probably better off just not installing stuff you don't need, and where posisble install to your SD card, keeping RAM as free as possible - that will give you a cleaner machine and reduce the need to be tempted to consider trying to overclock... make sure that you have low standby and backlight off settings when on battery use, and keep your device on charge overnight so you always have a devcent level of charge in the morning. If you need to, buy a desktop charger from ebay for a few quid, and stick your phone on it when you get home...

TangerineTractor said:
I think you're probably better off just not installing stuff you don't need, and where posisble install to your SD card, keeping RAM as free as possible - that will give you a cleaner machine and reduce the need to be tempted to consider trying to overclock... make sure that you have low standby and backlight off settings when on battery use, and keep your device on charge overnight so you always have a devcent level of charge in the morning. If you need to, buy a desktop charger from ebay for a few quid, and stick your phone on it when you get home...
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Thanks for the advice. The CPU clocking is being done with Battery Status, which is part of the ROM, so If power consumption continues to be a problem I'll disable the over-clocking function from the Battery Status Options.
As for charging I'm fine, I have an in-car charger and a 40 minute commute every morning/evening
Thanks again,
John

i've got a question about batterystatus, maybe some1 in this post knows the answer:
is there a way that batterystatus keeps the overclock setting while suspended? i would love to UNDERclock my cpu to 123mhz when suspended, so safe extra battery, but seems that everytime i suspend, BS sets it back to 201.
i tried the options, but i can't figure out if it's possible to over/under clock while suspended.

Have you tried the CPUScaler option? It's build in to version 1.04
For the original FAQ etc goto the BatteryStatus website. Or read more in this thread.

i haven't try it. i have artemis 2.2

TangerineTractor said:
I think you're probably better off just not installing stuff you don't need,
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Well, although I can't uninstall the battery bar I have disabled the over clocking! I sat yesterday and could almost watch the power drain in real time, even with the Max speed set to 201Mhz. I switched the function off and the battery is lasting a lot longer again.
Moral: Don't over-clock at all!

John Boy said:
Well, although I can't uninstall the battery bar I have disabled the over clocking! I sat yesterday and could almost watch the power drain in real time, even with the Max speed set to 201Mhz. I switched the function off and the battery is lasting a lot longer again.
Moral: Don't over-clock at all!
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I've tried ALL the cooked ROMS here - I have a 'spare' device for testing...
I use my device for work emails, sat nav, personal mails, web browsing, music, and as my phone. I pair it up with a Sony Blootooth car stereo.
So... aside from a few games, what else do you need to do with your phone? I'd suggets that most of the stuff loaded onto some of the ROMS is completely superfluous and just clogs up the device - things like the touch cube are really tarty overheads. Over the past year, I have played with most stuff that's out there, free and paid, and have a pretty default set of standard stuff that I load onto a clean RM. I was using Vanilla 2.0, but that still ate battery, so when I read that the Dopod shipped WM6 ROm was fast and bare, I thought I'd give it a go, and I haven't looked back...
Here's what I have on it, all running from the Stoarage Card where possible:
CloseAll
Hibernate
Hbutton
TodayAgenda (enhanced Calendar on Today)
Sunnysoft Contacts (one fingered dialling in the car)
TotalCommander
TomTom 6
Coreplayer (gives far better bluetooth audio streaming, and plays videos)
iphone keypad (default one buttons too small in the car)
SamsungTime (big clock on Today, but doesn't have the weight of HTC)
With all of this, I get brilliant battery life and a more than adequate response time without any overclocking, and over 20mb useable ROM.

TangerineTractor,
Why have you choosen the Dopod WM6 rom?
After having that rom I switched to the official Europe WM6 rom. No big differences, but with Ms Office 2007 on board, now the Word and Excel files are fully compatible with my desktop PC. The only disadvantage was that I had to install AudioManager separatelly. (But, in fact, I rather use CorePlayer.) It's a stable and reasonable fast rom. Storage Memory is low but each prog is in Storage Card if applicable. And there is very low RAM leaking (after a day of usage it's still above 20 M -- and Spb Mobile Shell runs constantly!).
Have you tried the Europe ver.?

ctibor said:
TangerineTractor,
Why have you choosen the Dopod WM6 rom?
After having that rom I switched to the official Europe WM6 rom. No big differences, but with Ms Office 2007 on board, now the Word and Excel files are fully compatible with my desktop PC. The only disadvantage was that I had to install AudioManager separatelly. (But, in fact, I rather use CorePlayer.) It's a stable and reasonable fast rom. Storage Memory is low but each prog is in Storage Card if applicable. And there is very low RAM leaking (after a day of usage it's still above 20 M -- and Spb Mobile Shell runs constantly!).
Have you tried the Europe ver.?
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The Dopod WWE ROM from the Wiki link has Office Mobile on it, and to be honest, I hardly use that anyway... which do you mean by the Europe version - maybe I'll give it a blast..??

Quick Question on Pagepool

If you run lots of memory heavy software, is it better to run a LOWER pp, or higher? It was my thinking that a lower number, like 4, would allow more things to run well at the same time. I just read a comment that says the opposite; someone suggested a pagepool of 8 if you run lots of memory heavy stuff...I use GPS software that tends to take up a lot of ram, and I am just never sure which pagepool number to use for myself

The higher the page pool the faster your phone will be running apps, but then there is the balance between speed, and running out of ram.
The best idea is to try a 6meg PP, run as MUCH as you think you will at the time, MAX out your ram usage, and see if you have 2megs to spare, if so, then an 8meg page pool will speed things up.

Dillsnik said:
If you run lots of memory heavy software, is it better to run a LOWER pp, or higher? It was my thinking that a lower number, like 4, would allow more things to run well at the same time. I just read a comment that says the opposite; someone suggested a pagepool of 8 if you run lots of memory heavy stuff...I use GPS software that tends to take up a lot of ram, and I am just never sure which pagepool number to use for myself
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I personally liked using 4MB PP when i was running GPS as GPS for sure needs a lot of RAM to keep it running. It also kelped me keep up with txt and stuff, as there was a bit more RAM available.

yeah, i found that on lots of roms, while running gps if i open a text message, it would shut down the gps and i'd have to launch it again, or IE, etc...that is most annoying

Dillsnik said:
yeah, i found that on lots of roms, while running gps if i open a text message, it would shut down the gps and i'd have to launch it again, or IE, etc...that is most annoying
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for sure IE will shut it down, as IE needs more RAM. But txt should not cause you any trouble. I gave up on GPS due to those RAM issues, so i went and bought a Magellan 1200

I have been using K's rom with a 6mb pp. And during work I leave excel and outlook open all the time, and will run gps and IE here and there, along with some other random programs, including adobe with some large pdf's, with no problems.
I have also been using sk tools, it comes with a "free ram" program that seems to help when memory starts getting low. But, if you have too many things open, it will sometimes shut one of them down (normally IE). But, I really don't have many issues. I also reboot the phone about once a day (In the morning).

iGO8 - Page Pool 4mb
- file system cache AUTO
- glyph 16kb
should be ok
TOMTOM 7 doesnt need so much memory but should be same as iGO

using storage card as extra ram/swap

When I run skyfire and I'm and my text open, I start having to close stuff in order for the other to run. Anyway I can run the programs in a temp swap type environment on my microsd card?

I'm pretty sure you can't - maybe you can with a 3rd party app, not sure - certainly not by default.
Unfortunately 64Mb RAM is a bit low for all the new apps that are coming out these days, I had Iris Browser which was pretty unusable because of all the RAM it used when loading large pages. Shame, but that's what you get from a 3 year old device I guess!

Yep not possible has been talked about over in Dev, the best you could do to say claim more RAM is by decreasing the PagePool, this all depends what ROM you are using to how much you want to PagePool....
Kavana\Ricky can drop to about 4.5MB PagePool so aprx 27MB free RAM.
All info found in RoseROM Remade thread bear in mind what you gain in RAM you loose in speed.
Trial and error, good luck

No, but I noticed when I run game emulators and roms from my storage card games runs far far better then when I had them on the system ram. The difference is incredible
Much better frame rate then accessing the slow ram. If you turn wifi off it works even better. Perfect for Final Burn Alpha with sound on which had an unplayable speed before i got a card. Now its very playable.

PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.

ojideagu said:
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
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that's defiantly a good point and perhaps explains why mp3's play at a faster rate then they're supposed to from my memory card but the same songs trimmed and used as ringtones play at normal rate when saved on my device

Yeh its def a significant difference. I also overclock to 264 when running games, fully stable.

ojideagu said:
No, but I noticed when I run game emulators and roms from my storage card games runs far far better then when I had them on the system ram. The difference is incredible
Much better frame rate then accessing the slow ram. If you turn wifi off it works even better. Perfect for Final Burn Alpha with sound on which had an unplayable speed before i got a card. Now its very playable.
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ojideagu said:
PocketNes is transformed too, almost double the frame rate running from my
storage card. Ive just bought this phone so have noticed the difference.
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jdshifflett said:
that's defiantly a good point and perhaps explains why mp3's play at a faster rate then they're supposed to from my memory card but the same songs trimmed and used as ringtones play at normal rate when saved on my device
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This is all because by running this stuff from the sd card, lightens the memory on the device, therefore it runs faster than if you have this stuff saved on the device and running the ram also, you should always try to keep the device's memory(storage) as light as possible, by installing as much as possible on the sd card.
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.

roloracer said:
This is all because by running this stuff from the sd card, lightens the memory on the device, therefore it runs faster than if you have this stuff saved on the device and running the ram also, you should always try to keep the device's memory(storage) as light as possible, by installing as much as possible on the sd card.
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
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So i did get seen
Follow on from roloracer: to which is why if we have programs that load @ startup go on internal, everything else on external, except Movie Player to take load off SD.

stylez said:
So i did get seen
Follow on from roloracer: to which is why if we have programs that load @ startup go on internal, everything else on external, except Movie Player to take load off SD.
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I know every time you post, you never go unseen by me my friend
I totally forgot to email the .xml file to you, I'll send it now.

roloracer said:
I know every time you post, you never go unseen by me my friend
I totally forgot to email the .xml file to you, I'll send it now.
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Coolio i know bruv
Got file just bout to ganda will hit you back

stylez said:
Coolio i know bruv
Got file just bout to ganda will hit you back
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No rush, I'm getting ready to take the wife to the movies, so I won't be on much.

roloracer said:
Also for anyone that wants more ram , just pagepool the rom before flashing , and that will give you plenty of more ram. Like Stylez said before, I was getting like 27mb ram on a pagepooled rickwyatt's v24 6.1 vanilla also, now on 6.5, comes with preset pagepool, I get a constant 15 to 17mb ram.
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Do games run better with that much ram free or is the speed im getting
from the SD card right now the max Speed. Im put off running a custom
rom as they seem buggy from what people say. Someones always got something not working.
Id only consider flashing a homemade Rom if it improved game performance.
I dont need any more speed for anything else and I know everything will
work with the official windows 6 Rom I have.

ojideagu said:
Do games run better with that much ram free or is the speed im getting
from the SD card right now the max Speed. Im put off running a custom
rom as they seem buggy from what people say. Someones always got something not working.
Id only consider flashing a homemade Rom if it improved game performance.
I dont need any more speed for anything else and I know everything will
work with the official windows 6 Rom I have.
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Wouldn't agree with that statement especially as the ammount of peeps with issues is far less than the ammount downloading, yes there has been issues with some ROMs but you will get more performance from a cooked ROM as chefs apply tweaks that M$ don't.
If you have the Official ROM in the STICKY then you can always flash back.

stylez said:
Wouldn't agree with that statement especially as the ammount of peeps with issues is far less than the ammount downloading, yes there has been issues with some ROMs but you will get more performance from a cooked ROM as chefs apply tweaks that M$ don't.
If you have the Official ROM in the STICKY then you can always flash back.
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Well yeh. Now I have an SD card most of my stuff is on that so
dont have too much hassle replacing everything.
I will try some. Ive got the official rom.

Tilt 2 Memory usage

I recently upgraded from a Fuze to a Tilt 2 (AT&T). I am running the stock AT&T Tilt 2 Rom. I have applied the hot fixes on their site though.
It is the same processor as the Fuze yet it is much more responsive, I love that. But I have a question. Even when I am not running anything (other then the TouchFlo interface) it is hovering around 80% of program memory usage, and there is only ~40mb free.
The fuze had the same amount of memory, and in the stock rom it was only using ~40% of program memory.
I am monitoring this after reset, so I am not looking at memory leak.
Is this normal for everybody? Any idea what is running in the background to waste so much memory? The task manager (windows default) does not show anything else running.

HKLM\Software\HTC\ResProxy
"ShareMemSize"
Change this value to zero
I found this in this link if you want more info on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588764

enahs_ said:
I recently upgraded from a Fuze to a Tilt 2 (AT&T). I am running the stock AT&T Tilt 2 Rom. I have applied the hot fixes on their site though.
It is the same processor as the Fuze yet it is much more responsive, I love that. But I have a question. Even when I am not running anything (other then the TouchFlo interface) it is hovering around 80% of program memory usage, and there is only ~40mb free.
The fuze had the same amount of memory, and in the stock rom it was only using ~40% of program memory.
I am monitoring this after reset, so I am not looking at memory leak.
Is this normal for everybody? Any idea what is running in the background to waste so much memory? The task manager (windows default) does not show anything else running.
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There's a couple of settings common to all models of the TouchPro2/Rhodium (which the Tilt2 is one of) that help to reduce the base memory footprint of running WM and Sense (aka TouchFLO3D). Cabs for them are attached below (SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy and NoPushInternet).
There's also a number of resident apps/programs that AT&T packs into their stock rom that are unnecessary and can be cleaned out. They won't make much difference in your available RAM (unless any of them get started and are running in the background), but cleaning them out can free up a significant amount of storage memory. There's a utility that's been built to help you clear them off, here's the link with info on it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper
EDIT: The first cab I attached does the same thing as the registry entry vnb28 mentions above

The biggest memory saver is disabling Opera from running in the background on start up. This uses 8-10 megs or so it appears on my phone. There are lots or registry edits and cabs out there that will do this.

InRBigness said:
The biggest memory saver is disabling Opera from running in the background on start up. This uses 8-10 megs or so it appears on my phone. There are lots or registry edits and cabs out there that will do this.
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I was under the impression that was the net effect of the NoPushInternet cab I've been using (attached in my previous post)...I haven't used any other cabs for that purpose, and it doesn't load for me anymore.

Thanks guys! You are brilliant! That free'd up a bunch of memory (Share Memory trick). I am going to leave Opera running in BG for now because I use it a lot, but will remove it if need be later. I am staying around 50% usage right now, which should be plenty of free program memory.
And thanks sirphunkee, I was wanting to remove some of that crap (like stupid game demos) but could not. I tried to deleting the large exes but that was not allowed either.
My system is running great now thanks to help from these forums!
If there was only a way to get weather (no fancy animation) on home screen of Touchflo 2.1 !

enahs_ said:
Thanks guys! You are brilliant! That free'd up a bunch of memory (Share Memory trick). I am going to leave Opera running in BG for now because I use it a lot, but will remove it if need be later. I am staying around 50% usage right now, which should be plenty of free program memory.
And thanks sirphunkee, I was wanting to remove some of that crap (like stupid game demos) but could not. I tried to deleting the large exes but that was not allowed either.
My system is running great now thanks to help from these forums!
If there was only a way to get weather (no fancy animation) on home screen of Touchflo 2.1 !
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Glad to help You might want to also throw a thanks over to pyromosh who created crud scraper: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper

what's normal for "total percentage of program memory in use"?

According to 090826a_Barium_ATT_UM.pdf, opening the Quick Menu will show you the "total percentage of program memory in use". My question is... what's a normal amount? For me, it's 67% with no running programs.

That will depend what ROM are you using.
Sense 2.5 uses a lot more RAM

yawnmoth said:
According to 090826a_Barium_ATT_UM.pdf, opening the Quick Menu will show you the "total percentage of program memory in use". My question is... what's a normal amount? For me, it's 67% with no running programs.
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Depends what ROM I am running and what tweaks I have performed. I can usually idle around 61-63% on sense 2.5. WM6.1 TF3D 50%. SPB Mobile Shell 61-65% (I could probably get this lower on a different ROM). I use cleanRAM when switching between SPB and Sense and at the end of each day.

super stock sense 2.1 rom, resproxy and no push internet tweaks, idling at max 65% after three days.
I dont use cleanram often too, i tend to forgot about it. Havent soft reset in a week and the phone still running nice

mr_sheen said:
I dont use cleanram often too, i tend to forgot about it.
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You can schedule to auto run every certain time