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Does yourDesire Hd really have 768 RAM????

Sorry if this is a noob question, this is my first android phone and do not fully understand android of yet.
Basically going to settings >>> Applications >>> Running services.
At the bottom of that screen you see Other : a mb Available b mb + c mb in 46
I understand one is memory used by essential processes, available and memory which can be freed up but what i don't understand is why it does not add up 768? and only around 520 mb?

Some of you RAM is taken up by the HTC Fast Boot feature. Around 80~100MB is used.

in adb shell type free and it will show around 630MB available, the rest is used for Radio and GPU

andyharney said:
Some of you RAM is taken up by the HTC Fast Boot feature. Around 80~100MB is used.
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so disabling fastboot is advised?

Why? Do you really need the 768MB of RAM? What are you running? Photoshop? 768MB RAM is enough for a loooong time!

BazookaAce said:
Why? Do you really need the 768MB of RAM? What are you running? Photoshop? 768MB RAM is enough for a loooong time!
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It's not a question of needing, I was just enlarging my knowledge on the subject.

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It's not a question of needing, I was just enlarging my knowledge on the subject.
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Theoretically, it is possible. Try it out and see what happens and report back. However, it is also possible that the device saves some ram for hardware acceleration/graphics memory like the HD2 did...

[Q] Ram doesn't add up? (Not the usual question)

Hello,
So I just recently got my Nexus, and I'm really really loving it. I had a question about the RAM. I'm on stock un-rooted and I noticed I had a little less that 700 MB ram. I know that's for system or gpu or whatever so I'm ok with that.
What I'm confused about is, I'm currently using 400 MB of it. If I combine the totals from the "Running Apps" section plus what is in the "Cached" section, it doesn't come close to the total 400MB being used.
So where is the extra Ram being used from? How can I free some of it up?
I've been reading that task managers are a no-no for ICS, so I'm more curious about which apps are killing my ram.
Thanks in advance

ellimistx99 said:
How can I free some of it up?
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Why would you want to?
killing my ram.
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Killing it how? Using it to make you phone react faster?

beren28 said:
Why would you want to?
Killing it how? Using it to make you phone react faster?
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Well sure in theory make the phone run faster. I imagine having more free ram available to be used in the cached application section and not the "running application section" will help make apps load quicker too. My friend had a desire and the amount of ram she had did drastically effect her phone performance.
But also because I'm curious about where is that extra 200 or so MB of ram is being used from?

Linux shares ram within apps/processes in a very complex way where even the experts have difficulty explaining exact tallies on ram levels. This is why different apps report different free ram values like os monitor vs system panel vs stock settings etc. So i wouldnt wprry about how android OS shows your ram value in settings, its not gonna add up and its a tricky question to ask.

RogerPodacter said:
Linux shares ram within apps/processes in a very complex way where even the experts have difficulty explaining exact tallies on ram levels. This is why different apps report different free ram values like os monitor vs system panel vs stock settings etc. So i wouldnt wprry about how android OS shows your ram value in settings, its not gonna add up and its a tricky question to ask.
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Hmm alright. So basically it's not something I should worry about? It's quite a large discrepancy. I guess I'll worry about it once I have errors that are "low ram" or something to that effect.
Thanks anyway

It's the discussion like there was in the galaxy s forum. The not displayed ram is used by the kernel it self and by the GPU. And besides it's a good thing to have a full ram in Android, because then many apps are pre loaded in the ram and can start faster this way.
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ellimistx99 said:
Hmm alright. So basically it's not something I should worry about? It's quite a large discrepancy. I guess I'll worry about it once I have errors that are "low ram" or something to that effect.
Thanks anyway
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Its always been like this on my android phones, i wouldnt worry. For example if you kill all current apps, you wont see free ram increase at the exact level of the total of all closed apps. Too much overlap and ram page sharing i think.

Don't worry about it. Some ROMs e. the stock ROM, don't have a seperate RAMDisk.
So, basicly, the ROM dumps some cached processes on to the RAM directly "clogging" it. If you however, have a custom ROM, eg. CynagonMod, the system uses half of the RAM it would use as a stock ROM, because cm uses a RAMDisk, which uses a minimal amount of space, on the device's memory.
But, there's absolutley nothing to worry about
Enjoy the phone and leave the RAM, as it is

Can anyone here tell me how to partition my sd card to create 1 ext4 partition to increase internal memry, 1 simple fat partition for daily use, and most importantly gto create 1 swap partition to increase my RAM and how to use it as RAM in galaxy fit ... Plz provide me a tutorial
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abhinav2196 said:
Can anyone here tell me how to partition my sd card to create 1 ext4 partition to increase internal memry, 1 simple fat partition for daily use, and most importantly gto create 1 swap partition to increase my RAM and how to use it as RAM in galaxy fit ... Plz provide me a tutorial
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The Galaxy Nexus doesn't have an SDcard. You can't partition it up like that.
Also, think you're in the wrong forum.

[Q] Ram issue on HTC one V

I just have less ram free all the time ( less than 100 mb ). I have only few applications running. can anyone tell me why is this happen and how to increase free ram.

This will help
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749825 :laugh::victory:

Try downloading "ram booster" from google play
Hope it helped.

Paresh Kalinani said:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749825 :laugh::victory:
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Thanks dude i will check

soham_sss said:
Try downloading "ram booster" from google play
Hope it helped.
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Will see

soham_sss said:
Try downloading "ram booster" from google play
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That's such an idiotic advice!!!
You have 100mb free ram all the time and you are COMPLAINING ABOUT IT? How about to have 20 MB FREE ALL THE TIME? THEN WHAT?
You should really stop about complaining ram and read/understand how android/linux works. I am tired to say the same fu%%ing thing over and over again.
Don't use apps from playstore that boosts whatever part of the phone even if it is ram or battery...
Having 100mb free ram on your phone is good for the system.

Eeven I was wondering...
Even I was wondering why will anyone complain about 100MB? So what do you want 512MB of RAM free? :

Free RAM is irrelevant, Android memory management is unlike your desktop computer. It fills the memory with commonly used applications and only clears them out when you need the room for something else. So uninstall Advanced Task Killer, that sort of crap was deemed dumb/harmful years ago.
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Passa91 said:
Free RAM is irrelevant, Android memory management is unlike your desktop computer. It fills the memory with commonly used applications and only clears them out when you need the room for something else. So uninstall Advanced Task Killer, that sort of crap was deemed dumb/harmful years ago.
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+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
None of these new guys want to understand how this works.... and they keep opening threads about how small ram they have when viewing the ram from settings, that they have small amount of free ram... pff.... android can work stable even if it has 10 mb free ram. it is not like windows as Passa91 said...
When you play a game that requires alot of resources (512ram lets say), everything gets killed or resides in cached apps and the game runs smooth! When you close the game, the rest of the apps are restored....

Thanks all who reply to my Q.
I just wan a tell you guys im new to android so i dont have much idea about how its worked ok. and i dont had any issue with ram since i couldn't play temple run on my phone. It stuck my phone. then only i looked what is the issue. so i thought thats issue with ram.
Since im new to android from 512 ram its showing 90 -100 as free without running much application. That is why i ask about this.
any way thanks again for reply and i got the answer.

tintin_77 said:
Thanks all who reply to my Q.
I just wan a tell you guys im new to android so i dont have much idea about how its worked ok. and i dont had any issue with ram since i couldn't play temple run on my phone. It stuck my phone. then only i looked what is the issue. so i thought thats issue with ram.
Since im new to android from 512 ram its showing 90 -100 as free without running much application. That is why i ask about this.
any way thanks again for reply and i got the answer.
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Use the freakin search button....there are atleast 20 threads with the same question.....
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Why only with HTC?
I'm not arguing and I know how Android manages the Memory but still...
Why is this only with HTC? .
I have an Xperia Mini and my friend has Karbonn A9.
ALWAYS Karbonn A9 had more than 210MB of Free RAM and Xperia Mini had 120MB of Free RAM. I never thought like why is my phone having less RAM, etc. etc. but now I realize that it's actually a little sluggish/slow.
When I applied the ICS BOOT Live Wallpaper on all the 3 phones, Karbonn A9 and Xperia Mini could handle it very smoothly at 60FPS (it's a setting for that live wallpaper), but, HTC One V was very slow and sluggish.
Again when I played Raging Thunder 2 Lite on A9 and Xperia Mini, it was very smooth and my One V just couldn't handle it.
Any answers for this??
Is this just because of HTC Sense?

Paresh Kalinani said:
I'm not arguing and I know how Android manages the Memory but still...
Why is this only with HTC? .
I have an Xperia Mini and my friend has Karbonn A9.
ALWAYS Karbonn A9 had more than 210MB of Free RAM and Xperia Mini had 120MB of Free RAM. I never thought like why is my phone having less RAM, etc. etc. but now I realize that it's actually a little sluggish/slow.
When I applied the ICS BOOT Live Wallpaper on all the 3 phones, Karbonn A9 and Xperia Mini could handle it very smoothly at 60FPS (it's a setting for that live wallpaper), but, HTC One V was very slow and sluggish.
Again when I played Raging Thunder 2 Lite on A9 and Xperia Mini, it was very smooth and my One V just couldn't handle it.
Any answers for this??
Is this just because of HTC Sense?
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It's because of ics, its not the phone.
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sell your phone if u don't love it.. don't criticize it
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OK...
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It's because of ics, its not the phone.
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Oh I see...

My lack of RAM knowledge
I am going to show my lack of knowledge, but I really wanna know. I thought that the One V had 512mb of RAM, but in my taskkiller and running programs, it shows 360..adding used and free. So......
Thanks.
1ceb0x said:
That's such an idiotic advice!!!
You have 100mb free ram all the time and you are COMPLAINING ABOUT IT? How about to have 20 MB FREE ALL THE TIME? THEN WHAT?
You should really stop about complaining ram and read/understand how android/linux works. I am tired to say the same fu%%ing thing over and over again.
Don't use apps from playstore that boosts whatever part of the phone even if it is ram or battery...
Having 100mb free ram on your phone is good for the system.
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manymarius73 said:
I am going to show my lack of knowledge, but I really wanna know. I thought that the One V had 512mb of RAM, but in my taskkiller and running programs, it shows 360..adding used and free. So......
Thanks.
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HTC One V, CDMA, running "Unofficial CM10 for PrimoC".
When I go into Settings > About Phone, it shows Memory: 333 MB.
The same exact phone running the stock ROM showed 512 MB.
However, when you add up the used and free numbers in both under Settings > Apps > Running, I get 334 MB on the CM10 rom and 362 MB on the stock ROM. I think there's just confusion about how the memory is being used and what numbers are exactly being displayed.

The memory displayed in settings is retrieved by the build.prop file. That doesn't tell you the total amount of ram the phone has. That's the total amount of ram 'free for user usage'. The rest of it is managed by the system but if you really want to see how much ram you have left on your phone go to Settings - apps and select running. Down there you should see the free ram you have, like in my screenshot below!
Sent by a PA proud user!

Haha.. Still got people using RAM Booster... I always said to my friend using advance task killer is useless... Even him using Note 2 complaining about RAM usage...

Holy crap.
So many threads like this where people spend more time *****ing then actually helping the person.
Shame really, with all the phones being sold on Cybermonday and the recent RS $49 sale this community could be awesome.

[Q] Low Ram

Is this normal?. my ram is really low and im only running what you can see?
Any advice please:fingers-crossed:

I wouldn't say that's too low. So you can sit back and relax
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oh rite thanks!

Yes show me ur cached process es
Mine is alot more like 144 mb free
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Sorry for the late reply. I was root/s-off a friends desire for him
here it is.
EDIT:::: I have 0 ram free now!

striped121 said:
Sorry for the late reply. I was root/s-off a friends desire for him
here it is.
EDIT:::: I have 0 ram free now!
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Reboot, delete some useless apps, close out of your programs more often.. etc
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that's too less mate.. i never have less than 70mb ram
even though i use SwiftKey and whats app
what i use is titanium tweaker app from the market
go to voltage set it to - 150 (for battery)
note set to - 150 only if you're oc to 1024
if higher don't do.. The phone won't respond..
then go to advance/turbocharger lmk
select megaram2
done see the difference
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dude unless u play games mine always shows 144 mb, remove **** that u dont use
download this from the market
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autorun.pro&hl=en
the paid one is awesome,but there is a free one also!, diavle the startup of junk bloatware and reboot!

4 bucks for a 87KB app? xD
Lowest ram I had was 51MB, and I use Sense 4.1. I would say using task killers help if your one of them people who want to see your ram high. If your device feels sluggish after use, use a task killer, or reboot.
I'm sure CM has that low mem problem though ither way. I saw someone posting bugs about it.
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Curiousn00b said:
4 bucks for a 87KB app? xD
Lowest ram I had was 51MB, and I use Sense 4.1. I would say using task killers help if your one of them people who want to see your ram high. If your device feels sluggish after use, use a task killer, or reboot.
I'm sure CM has that low mem problem though ither way. I saw someone posting bugs about it.
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use the free version then!

Suppose ill just ignore it then as my phone is smooth and fast anyhow. just curiious to why really. it's at about 70 now on average.

striped121 said:
Suppose ill just ignore it then as my phone is smooth and fast anyhow. just curiious to why really. it's at about 70 now on average.
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i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
When an Android app is no longer in use, the system will automatically suspend it in memory - while the app is still technically "open," suspended apps consume no resources (e.g. battery power or processing power) and sit idly in the background until needed again. This has the dual benefit of increasing the general responsiveness of Android devices, since apps don't need to be closed and reopened from scratch each time, but also ensuring background apps don't waste power needlessly
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Android manages the apps stored in memory automatically: when memory is low, the system will begin killing apps and processes that have been inactive for a while, in reverse order since they were last used (i.e. oldest first). This process is designed to be invisible to the user, such that users do not need to manage memory or the killing of apps themselves.[65] However, confusion over Android memory management has resulted in third-party task killers becoming popular on the Google Play store; these third-party task killers are generally regarded as doing more harm than good.
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source: Wikipedia

1ceb0x said:
i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
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source: Wikipedia
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Thanks for giving everyone who isn't aware some knowledge :highfive:Getting tired of these kinds of topics.
"More doesn't always mean better"

1ceb0x said:
i said it numerous times... android is NOT windows. your free ram in linux => your system fails to work. your free ram in windows => you can open up more programs until the ram is full.
in linux it is better to have the whole ram full, not free. if you want more infos, you can search on the net.
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but 1ce keeping them in the memory drains battery also right? so i prefer just remove some bloatware auto start aps

rockstar_26 said:
Thanks for giving everyone who isn't aware some knowledge :highfive:Getting tired of these kinds of topics.
"More doesn't always mean better"
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if your tired of these kind of topics then simply dont read them.
I Thank you for the info and understand perfectly now as i've never used linux prior to android annd never wanted to.

cybervibin said:
but 1ce keeping them in the memory drains battery also right? so i prefer just remove some bloatware auto start aps
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wrong. they remain in memory but they will not consume anything. that's what cache memory means.

1ceb0x said:
wrong. they remain in memory but they will not consume anything. that's what cache memory means.
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I am backig up everything Ice wrote above...
Also if you need auto start manager(free) go check this two https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImltb2JsaWZlLnRvb2xib3guZnVsbCJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wxLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkubGliZXJ0eS50b29sYm94Il0.
Much more then just auto start managers..enjoy

Whats using all of our ram?

I have been trying to figure out why the Note has so little of the 3 gb of ram available at any given time. After a fresh boot, I might have 1.3 - 1.5 available, but that quickly disappears.
I have frozen all unnecessary apps with Titanium Backup, yet after launching just a few apps, I'll be down to 300 mb or so. Looking at the active applications list in task manager, the apps listed are nowhere near to adding up to over a gb of ram.
Tablet seems to be performing fine, I'd just like to know where the ram is going and why. Especially when tablets with 2 gb of ram seem to have much more free at any given time.
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i am with you on this issue. would like to find out for my self as well! constantly having to clear ram.
youtube, gmail, and browers = 2.1 gb / 3 gb ...
what the heck?
i constantly have to go back and clear apps, this is such a let down because my htc one could load much more than this, and every1 knows, htc one is no where near the spec of note 2014..

I'm not rooted but I noticed the same thing with the ram, I thought rooting and freezing some Samsung apps, specially Knox stuff, would free up a lot of ram. I'm starting to think that it's not a big deal and Android frees up ram as needed before it starts to get laggy (of course it's not perfect). I think lag issues are somewhere else and not so much in freeing up more ram. Don't you feel anyway that your note is a lot faster after rooting and freezing those apps? As far as I know most rooted users feel that way...(?)
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I have rooted mine about two weeks ago then froze all sort of junk listed in here and some other I identified mysefl. Now my used ram remains around 500 clean and around 700-800 when I open few apps. So guys the secret is getting a lot of useless apps frozen especially knox stuff.

greyhulk said:
I have been trying to figure out why the Note has so little of the 3 gb of ram available at any given time. After a fresh boot, I might have 1.3 - 1.5 available, but that quickly disappears.
I have frozen all unnecessary apps with Titanium Backup, yet after launching just a few apps, I'll be down to 300 mb or so. Looking at the active applications list in task manager, the apps listed are nowhere near to adding up to over a gb of ram.
Tablet seems to be performing fine, I'd just like to know where the ram is going and why. Especially when tablets with 2 gb of ram seem to have much more free at any given time.
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Android is based on Linux. Android and Linux both run better when they use as much ram as possible. If you Google Android ram usage you can find a couple of interesting articles about this.
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nrage23 said:
Android is based on Linux. Android and Linux both run better when they use as much ram as possible. If you Google Android ram usage you can find a couple of interesting articles about this.
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Yup, stuff is kept in the RAM as much as possible to increase performance. As soon as an app requires more RAM than is available, the system moves apps from the RAM as required. Clearing the RAM only increases the time it takes to start an app next time.

I would be disappointed if its NOT beeing used...
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delanvital said:
Yup, stuff is kept in the RAM as much as possible to increase performance. As soon as an app requires more RAM than is available, the system moves apps from the RAM as required. Clearing the RAM only increases the time it takes to start an app next time.
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People are used to Windows needing free ram and do realize that Linux is a completely different animal altogether.
Here is the article for those that want to understand the ram usage.
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/

Okay, guys. Disclaimer: I'm an IT professional and the Mobility expert for my company. I know how the RAM is used and why. I'm just curious as to what is using it. Especially in comparison to the Nexus 10, which has 2/3 of the RAM and has approximately the same amount available at any given time.
I wasn't looking for assurance that this is how it's supposed to work. I'm curious as to what you guys think is actually filling it up. Since I have disabled most unnecessary processes and only run a few apps at any given time, I can't see why so little is free.

greyhulk said:
... I'm curious as to what you guys think is actually filling it up. Since I have disabled most unnecessary processes and only run a few apps at any given time, I can't see why so little is free.
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The objective of good android RAM management is to keep RAM full of the the highest priority apps. This enables faster and smoother response. The apps that are in RAM on your device will be different than on someone else's device. If you are curious about how android decides what put in RAM and what to take out, do a google search on "android process lifecycle"

if you're concerned about ram usage go to dev settings and change the "Limit background processes" to something more you liking.