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Hey Vjaayyyyyyyy The new rom has a gap in the bottom of the connection manager. Do you know of anyway to overcome this?
Mike
Getting the same problem
How annoying
Hmm, haven't looked into it yet. I've not touched the new ROM yet, but my Universal rom is so screwed due to the stuff I do to it, I think it's time for a refresh. what rom are you using?
On the Phone Dialer, all we needed to do was copy in two bitmaps to replace the originals. Send me over a copy of the manager, or otherwise point me to the rom, and I'll see if I can do similar. At least this one is more VGA compatible then the last few. Try resource hacking it to see if it corrects it.
BTW - Sctojen - I notice you've still got the vertically offset (ie incorrect) titlebar text. Have you tried changing the font or playing with your window metrics (try CETuner to play with this stuff). I'm using a font called VJNina, posted somewhere or other on the board.
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Vijay the following is the test imate rom I am using. Everything else rendering wise is fine.
i-Mate JasJar (PU10) Rom 1.30.68 WWE
Radio 1.09.00
Protocol 42.42.P8
Vj.
Not to sure what you mean by the horizontal text. Am Guessing from what i could make out do you use VJninja as like a system font. If so i will do a search and give it a try.
Also i notice in your screen shot you have got a nice looking battery bar sitting at the top of your screen where did you get this from.
Unfortunatly the new imate test rom comes with battery icon below (couldn't really get a good screen shot as it was in charging mode but with yours i notice you get several little bars with the 1 in the new imate rom the icon has just 2 big bars full and half full yours looks a little bit mor accurate. i would like to find out how to remove the one on mine and give yours a try.
Many thanks for all your help mate.
Scott
scotjen1: the vertical offset of your caption - in your screenshot, "Start" is touching the top of the caption bar. In mine, it's in the middle where it should be. This can be fixed, someone asked me once how I did it, I can't remember, but basically I use VJNina as my system font and CETuner to fix my "metrics". Have a look in the VGA thread for details (I think). But that's just cosmetic.
Battery bar - no idea. I thought it was built in. I'm not running much 3rd party stuff on my universal, since I only use it for development. I don't think I ran the extended rom cabs, so again, I'm not sure. I'll have to upgrade to the new rom soon and start playing. I haven't had time to look into any of it yet Busy weekend coding...
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Battery bar - no idea. I thought it was built in. I'm not running much 3rd party stuff on my universal, since I only use it for development. I don't think I ran the extended rom cabs, so again, I'm not sure. I'll have to upgrade to the new rom soon and start playing. I haven't had time to look into any of it yet Busy weekend coding...
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I think your battery bar is from SmallMenu/Plus (I think you told me once that you used this?). You can turn it on/off in the SmallMenu settings. (well - it certainly looks like the smallmenu battery indicator!)
man, do I have egg on my face.
Riceburner is correct, that's the battery icon from SmallMenu. You know, I never noticed? I use smallmenu on my Magician, which is my day to day phone, but I disable the battery icon because I use my VJToggleToday/PhoneAlarm hack instead. My universal hasn't been modded much at all yet by me, so I must have just left the icon on and not noticed. It's useful though.
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For those interested, here's a link to the Nina font,
http://www.vijay555.com/nina.zip
and VJNina, a cut down version 1/2 of the size, but removing certain rarely used (by me) international characters.
http://www.vijay555.com/vjnina.zip
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VJ, i guess its got nothing to do with the font. I had the start caption at an offset when i used to use OZvga to make the reg changes. I guess ozvga messes with some unwanted reg setting screwing it up....
However, if you copy the corresponding dlls (with 96dpi), and change the LogicalPixels reg values, the caption is center alligned!
Cheers,
San
Does anyone have the problem I have with the new rom, the new battery icon up on top bar still says its plugged into power when you unplug it from the computer, if I reset it it fixes it. Does anyone know how to fix this.
dreamtheater39: I'm sure it's not just the font, no reason why it would be. But I monkey around with various metrics, scrollbar size etc, as soon as I change resolution. So it's one of those. Not sure which, I just always play with a few by default... seems to correct the problem itself.
I just use VJNina because I find it a neater font then Tahoma at those resolutions. It's a hangover from my SPV days.
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Does anyone have the problem I have with the new rom, the new battery icon up on top bar still says its plugged into power when you unplug it from the computer, if I reset it it fixes it. Does anyone know how to fix this.
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I have this problem too. Only when using Real VGA though, so my guess is that it's a problem with a slightly incompatible 96 dpi .dll file? (Of course, I don't really know what I'm talking about here, so feel free to expose my ignorance, everybody! )
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VJ, i guess its got nothing to do with the font. I had the start caption at an offset when i used to use OZvga to make the reg changes. I guess ozvga messes with some unwanted reg setting screwing it up....
However, if you copy the corresponding dlls (with 96dpi), and change the LogicalPixels reg values, the caption is center alligned!
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The issue is with the system font size. For some reason, if you try to increase the size of the system font on WM5 it leaves the font at the same size, but raises it up. By default OzVGA tries to increase the size of all of the fonts when you switch to VGA mode. If you want to continue to use OzVGA and you don't want to deal with this, just go into the settings and change the System Font size for VGA mode to 900.
Brett
Brett
Worked a treat
Thanks
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Getting the same problem
How annoying
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Hi, i am also getting this problem, I ahve patched with other utilities. Except this one.
Any one please suggest the changes to be done. Cheers
I have few minor problems with the stock rom...
i flashed with the new stock rom, used the adv. tool and hd hack, but i damadged the phone too much so i hard reset the phone.
now i want to change the stuff only by regedit, and done that for almost all what i wanted.. there are just few things that bother me....
i could not find the reg edit for the big fonts that are default in this rom (the menus, the IE fonts, ...)... the advanced tool had that option but i cannot find the reg for it...
if you check the attachment for IE and one opened WEB page, itd BIIIG... even zooming it to small does not help, after pressng one ling, i get a biiig page again... im going crazy...
i managed to fix the fonts in the menus on HOME, but in IE the menus still are big, and donno why they are bad if i have the pro2 screeen turned down.
anyone knows the reg fix for this big fonts, i guess the ie pages will be small once i do that...
help
in internet explorer: Menu-View-Text Size- select smallest?
does not help... the os fonts are set to big in the regestry somewhere...
need to set them to normal.
Hi all,
Question actually 2:
1) I checked but didnt find what I was looking for dont know if it even exists. Is there a standalone program out there that you can install and access from the programs menu so that if for any reason when manila crashes (which happens often) that you can hit start and then tap the icon to re-start manila? Cause many of times Manila will crash or hang and other then powering it off or taking the battery out, you cant restart it.
2) As for the today screen, I dont know thats why I am asking, I was toying with some of the editors posted around for the png and gui, and noticed you can compress alot of the images that appear. My question is, will it make a big impact to how the screen looks meaning jagged edges, ugly etc?, The reason I ask is cause since the today screen has alot going on, and being that manila is sluggish as it is, I was wondering is compressing the images or files, would speed up the loading process and speed up some of the loading from screen to screen.
1. You can use cleanram for this. It will clean you're memory and restart manila. Make sure you don't have manila on you're exception list.
Ive used this before. just saw there was an update thru the program (props for that feature). Just thought there was maybe a simple program that just restarted it. but thanx for the input!
anyone with any ideas for Q2?
Been using the MAX MANILLA rom for about 4 days now. the only issue I've been having is just GUI stuff and txt'n software prob.
EX:
1) the Digital clock will sometimes freeze (no biggy)
2) If I was to send a text on my device to somebody, it wont show up on the screen, I would have to change screens and then go back to my text messages to see it.
3) sometimes the device will show you have a txt when you've already read it.
Same goes for.......if i was to stay in the text messaging program and somebody sends me a text message, I'd have to move to another screen and then come back to the text screen to see it.
Anybody else having this issue?
Update here you guys. I dont know if its the reboot that fixed the txt messaging error or installing the ATT tilt2 keyboard fix.
But now my text messages are working properly. it shows up on the screen as i send it.
Thats great youngWMuser glad you fixed your problem, but it has nothing to do with the topic of the post. If you have issues create a seperate post to solve your issues, Thanx.
lol. sorry. I'm using Manilla and the thread said "today screen and manila itself" haha. That's why i posted on here. And the text problem still is occuring.
Rather than installing a program to take up more space, you could go to Start>Settings>Today, click on the Items tab. De-select Manila (in my case, it's TouchFlo 3D) and hit okay. It will take you back to the Settings page, select Today again and go back to the Items page and re-select Manila. When installing a new TochFlo 3D theme, I do that rather than doing a soft reset. It seems a little quicker to me.
Take a look at this. The "Things you should know" and "History" sections might help.
Just out of curiosity, what versions are your ROM and Manila
JCTerry,
Your right, but in the the 2.5 manila the setting page to get to all settings, still access a manila tab, which is of no use, but you did make me think of another way. Does anyone know what the CPL is to access the all settings page, I could just create a shortcut in the programs menu.
But I am still curious about the compressing of the files for the today screen, has anyone ever tried it?
Hello everybody, have finished my modification of kenia1234 sense startmenu replacement, using CHTeditor I have seen we can change programpages from 4 to 5 columns, wanted to do the same on kenia startmenu replacement...here is the result...
This is my first try in modding manila files, and I am quite happy to have understand the thing in half a day, hash file name is really a pain to work with...
But now I have what I wanted, a really usable start menu ( not too much long to scroll like list or 4 columns), included in the cab, shortcut to control panels item so you can disable the Windows mobile start menu to same a great 10mb of RAM, this hack to disabling completely the startmenu is from arto, I have attached the startmenu disabler for wm 6.5 and for wm 6.5.x, Install this to gain system memory...
Thanks to members Etoy & Abrasive We now have VGA versions as well !!!
VGA 4 rows
VGA 5 rows
Here is the link for original WVGA Kenia1234 version :
Original Kenia1234 Thread
Really nice!! I m glad to see that my work was useful for you...
thanks for the quote!
Anyway Good job!!
What would be great is the folder ability like the real startmenu, but thats definitely a hard work of coding...
My real goal to achieve, is to replace the recent program list from the bottom, and to replace it with shortcut for "recent program", "All programs","Control Panel".
This way we can have acces to parameters without loosing the ability of recentprogramlist. but I really don't know enought by now on lua script etc to program the whole thing, we have the layout, we need a good dev to make the whole thing, but I think it's a bit difficult to do as it need the script to understand how to lauch cpl files...
my real dream is a lightweight startmenu replacement like "Panoramic Launcher"...
This looks great - I never knew (or noticed) that the Start Menu was so heavyweight on memory. I might give this a go over the weekend. Nice work!
ocman, this is a very nice tweak to get more ram. I tried Panoramic Launcher, but believe it or not, found it to be a bit buggy. Sometimes it launched and sometimes the start menu launched. I want something which I can get used to. I am trying your program and like it very much. The only thing I would change is to give the settings menu items the same icon as before. I think I can research this one as I know you can add icons to shortcuts.
It does seem to save some ram too.
Well done and thanks!!!
How to put back the start menu?
Hi,
is it possible to creat folder in this start menu (i think yeah but need be sure )
Bye bye (et merci!!)
Hmmm, pitty did not work for me.....did not get te square with start icons. Instead icons where similar oriented as current start menu and logo's where gone.
great job.i ve been looking for a start menu disabler and a replacement for a year.
GREAT JOB,piece of ART !
Not work too at wm 6.5.x.
I installed the cab to replace and the cab to remove start menu, but when i soft reset my device the windows flag has disappeared and i get no more startmenu. Neither new or old
yeah in 6.5.x lost but I gained like 30mb wow
I see were this would really help with CHT or any other version thinking about installing it to see how it works on overlay sitting idle right now with NRGz 8-6 I have 96mb free! That is a good hack either way maybe needs to be cooked into roms and have a shortcut to the windows/startmenu for access to startmenu. Either way nice job.
****you lose your settings menu access as well because I was going to map my windows button to the windows/startup/program files*****
hahaha nice appbutyou forgot something theme settings !
dude wonderful app , but you forgot a shortcut to change the theme and the theme wallpaper ! in WM6.5 and 6.5.3 it has a special path ,not like 6.1 ,you might need to tweak it a little bit ! ! ! !
but its a great RAM saver and super practical ! great job
@ocman,
thanks for sharing..!
Works perfect for me...!
Greetings
sv0911
this works with all devices? and which files should I download and install?
Wow this really makes such a big difference, even on my HD2. This seems to have saved me about 20mb on my memory and has sped up my entire phone quite a lot.
The only problem is I'm using arkswitch and that covers up the start menu button and the start menu hardware button doesn't seem to work so at the moment I've got no way of getting to the start menu. Is it possible to make the hardware button work again?
Overall though it's a big improvement and it has definately made a speed difference and personally I think that this looks better than the default start menu anyway.
I hated the start menu layout and always wished for a CHTEditor grid type layout. Can't wait to try it out!
EDIT: Tried it out and love it. On my HD2, pressing the hard Start button seems to confuse it for a few seconds and then nothing. The soft Start button works fine and the app is VERY good in general. Like others have said, it would be perfect for me if the hard button worked or could be mapped, the scrolling speed was increased and folder creation.
Excellent job!
Can you do a 4 column version also?
Plus 1 for folder creation for this menu.
I contacted Cookie once and he said Cookie Manila Start Menu would be on his next release. Seems like you beat him to it
OIY OP FUK YOU.....
but in all seriousness, I offered a bounty both here at XDA and over at PPCG for a CHT or classic WM6.1 StartMenu/Programs for $20...
Keep up the good work, make it (talk to CHT/CHTE) compatible and customizable with CHT/CHTE to be merged into or if you want to keep it alone make it an add-on still for CHT/CHTE (so we can change the columns/row amount/setup)
$20 for the finalized version with customization possibilities (it can do folders?), make that bottom row optional and customizable, Recent Programs or Folders or like Win7 even with the "Pin to StartMenu"
Either way, when done and I can use it reliably $20 is yours (paypal?!)
hi i installed this program and it does saved 10 M ram! thanks a lot!
however i have a few problems. in sense 2.5, the calendar and setting tabs dissappeared.
i also try to map this program to a hardware key, but can't seem to find the shortcut to the app. can you tell me where to find it?
thanks for helping!!!
Hi everyone, I am a cooker ( doing great things, but mainly a noob one compared to some masters out there ) .
Cooking on the Omnia I900 & Acer S200 ( french rom only), these devices have low memory.
For example the acer S200 only has 256mb of ram, but mainly the same hardware than the powerful HD2(except ram....:-( )
Arto ( great cooker of the Acer S200 scene ) has found that removing the start menu completely gains 15mb Ram on our devices ( by fooling the system with empty .cpr grid, icons caches aren't generated.)
This can help people make really light roms!!! The main problem now is the we don't have here a real startmenu alternative, a eye candy one than keep the spirit of our devices... Quickmenu is functionnal but not too beautiful.
After many searches over xda, the only thing I found was Quickmenu and the sense Startmenu replacement ( I modded the kenia1234 startmenu replacement to give it 5 columns, here is the work : 5 columns start sense2.5 menu replacement )
I don't know why developper aren't interested in making a real , fast and beautiful startmenu replacement ( with full fonctionnality, at least control panel wikth .cpl files abilty, and even more folder architecture, fullscreen, lightweight ),
but here is the request or that, If others than me are interested, please reply and tell your needs, to help developpers...
Something like Panoramic Launchpad would be great!
Last week I started creating a startmenu alternative. It's very underdeveloped, and I have no idea when it's finished, but to give you an idea I attached two screenshots.
It still lacks a couple of features (if someone can point me in the right direction, please do so ):
- no control panel items yet
- no icon transparency (I got that working, but it was horribly slow)
- no background (because of the lack of transparency)
- no hook on the hardware windows key (like quickmenu)
- no hook on the software start button (like ameba does on winmo 6.5.x)
- if there's no png file attached to a link, no icon is displayed
But the other basics are working:
- starting programs by clicking (yes I know, very basic )
- flipping pages by swyping your finger (left->right, right->left, up->down, down->up)
- opening folders, and going back up one level with the left soft button (just like the usual start menu)
I actually started this because I'm not a fan of the hexagon grid styled start menu, not because of memory issues. I did take a look at the current memory usage of my start menu, and currently it is 1.41MB. But that will grow with more icons and transparency I guess.
If you're interested I can continue developing this startmenu.
The most important thing to me is ram usage, the lower it is the best it is,
the png file limitation to display an icon should be reconsidered, the ability to display native icon is much more important, or, much easily to program, you can make your app request the "HKLM\Security\StartInfo\Start\myprog.lnk" key to read the icon you should display, if nothing is entered, lets just start the native icon.
This is important to make your startmenu replacement user friendly. nobody likes assigning manually an icon to an app, having the ability to do it is good, but the most important for the users is that your program automaticaly displays the native icon like the start menu does.
To use cpl, you just have to use a ctlpnl.exe command line, like this :
ctpnl.exe mycpl.cpl
if cpl has multiple tab, ctpnl.exe mycpl.cpl,1 ( where the number is the tab you want to be open)
for cpl files, I thinks its the big part of the job :-(
What I meant with:
- if there's no png file attached to a link, no icon is displayed
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My program uses the icons set in HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start, but if it's an older program, there might not be a high resolution icon, and in that case I won't display any icon. That's something I will fix ofcourse.
I'll have a look at the cpl files, and I guess google will help me there as well.
Also looking for a way to show my startmenu instead of the winmo startmenu, but no luck so far. If anybody knows how to catch when the winmo startmenu is activated in c#, please let me know.
Hi guys
Have you ever heard of iPhoneToday http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633618 ? It's so light and configurable
XTask has a good looking, light start menu replacement.
If you leave out the start_icon.png's, then the native icons are used. The 6.5 start menu also slows down boot time dramatically. Just delete all the shortcuts, soft reset, and check the millisecondtoidlethread in hkcu/performance. Boot time may be 20-30 seconds faster.
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Last week I started creating a startmenu alternative. It's very underdeveloped, and I have no idea when it's finished, but to give you an idea I attached two screenshots.
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If you're interested I can continue developing this startmenu.
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This certainly looks very interesting! Please continue, I also hate the honeycomb (as many people around).
I like this
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What I meant with:
My program uses the icons set in HKLM\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start, but if it's an older program, there might not be a high resolution icon, and in that case I won't display any icon. That's something I will fix ofcourse.
I'll have a look at the cpl files, and I guess google will help me there as well.
Also looking for a way to show my startmenu instead of the winmo startmenu, but no luck so far. If anybody knows how to catch when the winmo startmenu is activated in c#, please let me know.
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Hi m8
I also hate the startmenu but this is cose it eats arround 30mb of ram...
There is a way to disable the default startmenu ....
Look this post its working fine on Blackstone NRG roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7911317&postcount=16270
I just dont like the replacement menu or the quickmenu
Your app can be assigned to startmenu button with ameba
If can i help with your project on this just let know
Also keep in mind that many shells (Throttle Launcher, Mobile Shell etc) read the data to load program shortcuts from the start menu, so that the replacement has to take care of that too.
what do you think about wisbar 4? would this be an alternative to quick menu? i was using this prog. a year ago and i was totaly impressed. now i use it again together with the new energy rom from august 28. after the replacement from the start menu i have real nice and fast blackstone