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Quick How-To for gps/rev a flash/upgrade

ok well i just made up this list a while ago to help someone out, and have ended up giving it to quite a few ppl now, so i figured i might as well post it here under an appropriate title for all to easily see and access.
i know dharvey wrote a great tutorial, and that there are prob others, but..what the heck. plus this is pretty quick and easy, though i cant say that it is as full and thought out and great as dharvey4651's (thx man!)...
IMPORTANT!!! ONLY SPRINT users follow below steps 5 and 8-11!! Altell users can follow all the steps except step 5 as long as they use a different ppst.exe, not the one mentioned below.
"#1- Backup all pim info and anything else you might want.
#2- Ensure you are currently running your carriers original official oem rom (os and radio) (if you have never flashed it at all then dont worry youre good to go).
#3- Unlock using imcokemans 2.31 unlocker (this for gps roms)
#4- run the sprint leaked rom.exe (here, close to the bottom where it says "original rom")
#5- SPRINT ONLY:allow all customizations to complete and run (i know - it takes a lil while)
#6- flash to desired rom.
#7- after she's all booted up, hard-reset.
#8- download and run cab from here (altell users run your own ppst stuff on the same post, non-sprint and non-altell users SKIP TO STEP 12): http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=282955&postcount=139
#9- allow soft-rest.
#10- navigate to \windows folder and run ppst.exe
#11- allow soft reset.
#12- allow boot-up, customize, restore pim info etc...
credit to boggsie"

didnt use unlocker
I just ran the leaked ROM upgrade. It found my phone and flashed it. I never ran any of the SPL unlockers. Should I be worried about not being able to unlock later, or have trouble flashing an 'Official' release?

d1rtyd33z said:
I just ran the leaked ROM upgrade. It found my phone and flashed it. I never ran any of the SPL unlockers. Should I be worried about not being able to unlock later, or have trouble flashing an 'Official' release?
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hey nope you'll be just fine, assuming that you arent going to flash to a custom rom. what is your current spl? you just will not be able to flash a custom rom until you unlock.

what happened to the link for the leaked rom ????

avalanchedude said:
what happened to the link for the leaked rom ????
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oops lol must not have copied over quite right and how i wanted...updated first post
thanks.

HI i have been reading alot on this new rom, will this work on bell and also is there a way to "backup" the current bell rom so that way we can "undo" what we have done to get back to original in case we ever need to? thanks again for everyones hard work.

hi all .....im newbie...using htc touch 2nd gen.... how to unlock the gps in my fon???

Hi All. I just recieved my touch last week and like the phone alot. I have flshed my old phone ( old I-mate PDA) a few times with files from here and it worked great.
But with the Touch you guys are talking about different kinds of touch phones. Where do I check what kind do I have. I am from South Africa and use MTN as my SP.
Will I be able to use the GPS ( Seen it in other threads)
Thank you for your help
Beast

how can I backup my phone?
I never flashed it before, its a Sprint Touch 2007 October.

A50SNAKE said:
HI i have been reading alot on this new rom, will this work on bell and also is there a way to "backup" the current bell rom so that way we can "undo" what we have done to get back to original in case we ever need to? thanks again for everyones hard work.
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check on the ppcgeeks ftp, im pretty sure the stock bell rom/radio has been placed somewhere there.
jhanz said:
hi all .....im newbie...using htc touch 2nd gen.... how to unlock the gps in my fon???
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just read my post! so who is your carrier? when you say 2nd gen, it makes me think your touch is gsm...is that the case?
Da_Beast said:
Hi All. I just recieved my touch last week and like the phone alot. I have flshed my old phone ( old I-mate PDA) a few times with files from here and it worked great.
But with the Touch you guys are talking about different kinds of touch phones. Where do I check what kind do I have. I am from South Africa and use MTN as my SP.
Will I be able to use the GPS ( Seen it in other threads)
Thank you for your help
Beast
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im....not really sure. being on a different continent i dont think it would work the same, unless you were able to find a separate radio only rom for your carrier, in which case you could flash whatever rom you wanted (w/o letting the cusomizations run on first boot), then flash your carriers os only rom, then be good to go!
yrsmart said:
how can I backup my phone?
I never flashed it before, its a Sprint Touch 2007 October.
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what exactly are you trying to back up?

jim256 said:
what exactly are you trying to back up?
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contacts, my documents and appz if possible

yrsmart said:
contacts, my documents and appz if possible
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google and download pim backup
actually...you could just synchronize with active sync, and have it sync your contacts, calendar, and files?

new PPST direct link
This post should be a sticky!!!!
This works perfectly except for the fact that the link to ppcgeeks on #8 is busted. What is missing from that link is the file for ppst.exe. I beat my brains in trying to get the stupid gps to work before I finally realized what was missing from my install.
Here is the PPST file from sprint that you do in fact need to make the gps work great. I lock onto the gps sats in about 15 seconds, in my house, to about 9 of em.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jk3xpkwwg0.zip

flashing cmda phone different from gsm?
Hi All,
I just got my new sprint vogue to replace my t-mobile wizard. I flashed my wizard extensively over the past 2 years but I'm not sure about the Vogue. How does a cmda phone retain its network settings and network contact info if it is flashed when theres no sim card? I'm not talking about PIM info but the info the phone uses to identify itself and communicate with the network.
thanks
Lotus

This worked great. It was my first time flashing and following these instructions everything worked out well and I get locked into satellites with the gps very fast. Thank you.

i have a couple questions. 1st is i have a sprint touch flashed to cricket if i were to install this rom will all my cricket settings stay intact or will i have to reflash to cricket? 2nd does this rom include WM6.1 along with gps, and rev. A?
thanks for any help.

lehrfeld said:
Hi All,
I just got my new sprint vogue to replace my t-mobile wizard. I flashed my wizard extensively over the past 2 years but I'm not sure about the Vogue. How does a cmda phone retain its network settings and network contact info if it is flashed when theres no sim card? I'm not talking about PIM info but the info the phone uses to identify itself and communicate with the network.
thanks
Lotus
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i must say that im not exactly sure how. but i can say that...it just does. if you flash a different radio rom...then you can be in trouble if it is not for your carrier. but we are discussing os only roms here and the network settings are therefore not really affected
and ps for you too, dont allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be run, unless you are sure they are for your carrier
SLCpunk69 said:
i have a couple questions. 1st is i have a sprint touch flashed to cricket if i were to install this rom will all my cricket settings stay intact or will i have to reflash to cricket? 2nd does this rom include WM6.1 along with gps, and rev. A?
thanks for any help.
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ok so..no specific rom is being discussed here. this is just a how-to for what/e rom you want.
and no you should not have to re-flash to cricket as long as you only flash an os-only rom, a rom that does not have a radio included, and you never allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be executed.
but most all the roms that you can flash using these instructions do have 6.1 with gps and rev a yes

BigRed Productions said:
This post should be a sticky!!!!
This works perfectly except for the fact that the link to ppcgeeks on #8 is busted. What is missing from that link is the file for ppst.exe. I beat my brains in trying to get the stupid gps to work before I finally realized what was missing from my install.
Here is the PPST file from sprint that you do in fact need to make the gps work great. I lock onto the gps sats in about 15 seconds, in my house, to about 9 of em.
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jk3xpkwwg0.zip
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thanks for pointing out the borken link
link fixed/first post slightly updated.

jim256 said:
i must say that im not exactly sure how. but i can say that...it just does. if you flash a different radio rom...then you can be in trouble if it is not for your carrier. but we are discussing os only roms here and the network settings are therefore not really affected
and ps for you too, dont allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be run, unless you are sure they are for your carrier
ok so..no specific rom is being discussed here. this is just a how-to for what/e rom you want.
and no you should not have to re-flash to cricket as long as you only flash an os-only rom, a rom that does not have a radio included, and you never allow any files named "ppst.exe" to be executed.
but most all the roms that you can flash using these instructions do have 6.1 with gps and rev a yes
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ok so what if i wanted to use a custom rom made using the leaked sprint rom that has the MMS program included i should be fine as long as no "ppst.exe" file run during the install?
thanks for the help

HELP: when i try to load the v3[1].02.rar it asks for a password?????
if i use spb backup to restore in the last step, will that screw things up, since it reinstalls programs, etc as well????

Radio Upgrade...how do I?

Hey all, so I have Telus, and just yesturday i upgraded my phone with NFSFAN's custom wm6.1 rom. but my Radio sucks 3.41.00, i can't seem to find a way to upgrade my phones radio so i can use the GPS viewer and Google Maps. can anyone point me in the right direction. I also saw that 3.42.40 is the "best" radio, is that true?
Thanks for your help

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Hey all, so I have Telus, and just yesturday i upgraded my phone with NFSFAN's custom wm6.1 rom. but my Radio sucks 3.41.00, i can't seem to find a way to upgrade my phones radio so i can use the GPS viewer and Google Maps. can anyone point me in the right direction. I also saw that 3.42.40 is the "best" radio, is that true?
Thanks for your help
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actually it's 3.42.50!! (Bell)
Flash the new Bell radio like any ROM upgrade (bootloader or activesync), just don't let customizations run.
If you think the 3 second customizing window is too small Detroit Doug suggested soft reseting when it comes to the "tap here to set up your device" screen. Seeing as the next step is customizations, and you have to do the setup again after flashing your final (custom) ROM I think thta's a great idea.
Here is the link to the Bell radio:
http://www.htc.com/ca/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=70&act=sd&cat=all

jmitr said:
actually it's 3.42.50!! (Bell)
Flash the new Bell radio like any ROM upgrade (bootloader or activesync), just don't let customizations run.
If you think the 3 second customizing window is too small Detroit Doug suggested soft reseting when it comes to the "tap here to set up your device" screen. Seeing as the next step is customizations, and you have to do the setup again after flashing your final (custom) ROM I think thta's a great idea.
Here is the link to the Bell radio:
http://www.htc.com/ca/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=70&act=sd&cat=all
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I upgraded my radio from Sprint to Bells recently using this method. No problems at all. one thing I found was that I had to "Tap and setup" and then soft reset before customizations. I tried to soft reset at the "Tap to setup" screen first and it tried to run the custimizations again after it rebooted.

THanks, it worked awsome...thats for your help
jmitr and Csquared

Bell "logo"
When i re-start my phone it gives me the "BELL" logo", how do i change it back into telus?

is this the same way to update your radio for vzw
cuz i wanna use NFSFAN's Custom Verizon WM6.1 ROM, so would i just download the vzw version of the htc rom upgrade? cuz my radio is 3.37.78 is that bad?

Yes it is, my radio is 3.42.50 but now it gives me the bell lgo not telus, well if u wana use the GPS you need a higher radio
Eckopanda
is this the same way to update your radio for vzw
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cuz i wanna use NFSFAN's Custom Verizon WM6.1 ROM, so would i just download the vzw version of the htc rom upgrade? cuz my radio is 3.37.78 is that bad?

Freezell said:
When i re-start my phone it gives me the "BELL" logo", how do i change it back into telus?
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Not sure the "official" way, but I know that when I flash ROMs using the PPCKitchen tools, I get to choose my own logos.
Additionally, I got the new Radio on my Sprint phone this way, but then it wouldn't stay connected to Activesync long enough to start a flash. So I had to force it into bootloader mode by holding the camera button while turning on the phone, and flash that way. Just a tip.

lotherius said:
Not sure the "official" way, but I know that when I flash ROMs using the PPCKitchen tools, I get to choose my own logos.
Additionally, I got the new Radio on my Sprint phone this way, but then it wouldn't stay connected to Activesync long enough to start a flash. So I had to force it into bootloader mode by holding the camera button while turning on the phone, and flash that way. Just a tip.
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After upgrading to the Bell rom I used PPCKitchen to flash my own rom and added my own carrier splash page. This page then sticks with any of NFSFAN's roms. Not saying this is the only way, just the way I did it.

So, ive been trying but cant figure out how to install the bell on my sprint. It says that im using an invalid vendor ID, but i cant figure out how to bypass that... any help, ive looked at hardspl but cant find anything for the vogue....

Could Verizon GPS issue have something to do with the PRi/PRL?

My boss and I both have Vogues. Both are flashed to NFSfan's 6.5 V7 and the radios have been upgraded to 3.42.5. My GPS locks on fine but my boss's won't. I can use GPOS viewer and will immediately see some Sats but his never does. I have checked all the QPST settings, registry and windows settings and they are identical. The only difference I can see is the PRI and PRL:
Mine
PRL 51284
PRI 1.37.002
His:
PRL 51309
PRI 2.03.002
Could this be causing his GPS not to work? Is there a way to change the versions on his? Thanks for any help. Tim

I just checked my phone and I'm running:
ROM version 2.00.V7.ROM
Radio version 3.42.50
PRL version 51101
PRI version 1.37_002
My gps took a crap about 6 weeks ago. I did the QPST redirection to the Telus IP and server but it still did not work. Then when NFS released 6.5 v7 I was extremely surprised to see tomtom pick up sats without any changes to the registry. So I went back to 1.15 verizon to test it out and I had the same results as before; poor gps locks. So I went back to 6.5 and today I had a solid lock on 12 sats Works better now then it ever did. I posted a question under the NFSfan thread but no one responded on why it works now with telus settings and the rom has bell settings.

Thats whats weird,
my GPS is/was working great. That is without doing anything to NFSfan's v7 so I loaded it on his and it still doesn't see anything. The only diffences I see between his and mine are the PRI and PRL. Timmay!!!

Timmay!!! said:
Thats whats weird,
my GPS is/was working great. That is without doing anything to NFSfan's v7 so I loaded it on his and it still doesn't see anything. The only diffences I see between his and mine are the PRI and PRL. Timmay!!!
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Is his phone a replacement? Did he at one time run the verizon gps rom which to my understanding will screw the gps if customizations are allowed to run.
By the way. Did you do the Telus QPST update when verizon went down or are you still using the original ip and server addresses?

He has had his phone around 6 months. I originally did the Valhalla hack to enable the GPS and it worked fine until a couple weeks ago. I updated my phone to radio 3.42.50 and NFSFan's 6.5 V6 which worked great and brought back the GPS. I updated his yesterday to the same and his GPS still doesn't work. I checked and both of us are running the Telus settings within QPST.
Could it be we (You and I) are on the same PRI version? Is there a way to change that?
Thanks for your responses. Timmay!!!

you have to make sure you got 1.37 pri for the gps to work i found this out the hard way.

s10onn2o said:
you have to make sure you got 1.37 pri for the gps to work i found this out the hard way.
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this is completely true, i had a replacement within the last month and i had to flash down to the 1.37 pri in order to get agps to finally work again. (mine was at the 2.03 when i received it). i tried a lot to get it to work with 2.03 but gave up and down flashed.

soccerman821 said:
this is completely true, i had a replacement within the last month and i had to flash down to the 1.37 pri in order to get agps to finally work again. (mine was at the 2.03 when i received it). i tried a lot to get it to work with 2.03 but gave up and down flashed.
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How does one flash down the pri just in case of phone replacement? Maybe this info can be added to the new 6.5 nfs faq.

CDMoore,
I finally got it to work by taking it down to 1.37_002. There is a post over on PPCGeeks (sorry mods if I am not supposed to mention them). I tried to find it for a link but couldn't. You have to flash to the alltell rom and then the bell rom to update the pri and radio. I am not sure in which order. Someone wrote up a walkthrough, I googled verizon pri 1.37_002 and found the link. Hope this helps, if not, just post back up and I will search for the link more. Timmay!!!

I finally found the link: http://ppcgeeks.com/forum.ppcgeeks/showthread.php?t=43741&page=28
Look at post # 274 Someone should definately post that in the FAQ. Credit goes to Jaxx10. Timmay!!!

ill fix up a little tut. on how to do it with some links of all the tools and roms to use.

soccerman821 said:
this is completely true, i had a replacement within the last month and i had to flash down to the 1.37 pri in order to get agps to finally work again. (mine was at the 2.03 when i received it). i tried a lot to get it to work with 2.03 but gave up and down flashed.
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OK, now I must admit to being confused...
I'm running PRI 2.03 and my aGPS works (mostly). If it's not working, I just prime it with Google maps, then it's fine.

Upgrading Radio

This is a re-post of one I did on PPCGeeks. Haven't received an answer there yet.
I have a Verizon xv6900 that has the 2.31 unlocker on it. I have flashed to other 6.1 ROMs, but am currently running the stock Verizon one. When I flashed back to stock, I let the customizations run (I like the version of Opera that comes with it) and my gps is non-functional. I've fought Valhalla, all the "fixes" that seem to work only for specific users and am wondering if upgrading the radio will fix the GPS. I went back to the stock ROM because the bluetooth works with my Redfly. I would trade that for working gps in a custom ROM.
If I upgrade to the Bell ROM with radio 3.42.50,
1. Will I get the use of the gps back?
2. Will I need a new A-key?
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs?
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again?
Thanks for any help. I've read ImCoKeMaN's threads about downgrading radios and am just a little nervous about messing with the radio rather than just with the ROM.

You should but there has been problems like that with the stock verizon rom. Try to flash the Radio (3.4....or higher) and make sure you have Cokemans Unlocker/Bootloader.
If that doesnt work, refer to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462206
Hope you get the issue resolved. Good Luck!
1. Will I get the use of the gps back? Yes
2. Will I need a new A-key? Dont believe so
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs? No
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again? Once you have it fully flashed you can always go back to stock (without downgrading radio) I think it is NOT good to DOWNGRADE the Radio. You dont have to change it back to flash to stock.

Thanks for the information! I have searched for weeks and couldn't find that link! One other thing, I'm in W-S, NC! Out of all the people here, who'd have thought a next door neighbor would have the answer!

drowe said:
Thanks for the information! I have searched for weeks and couldn't find that link! One other thing, I'm in W-S, NC! Out of all the people here, who'd have thought a next door neighbor would have the answer!
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could you please post your results once you finish, oh and by the way, i'm in Ch-tte, NC

Glad I was able to help. Seems like quite a few of us are in NC.

No luck.... When I ran the second half of the directions first, no satelites were found. I then tried doing the ppst portion like the directions asked and nothing happens. It kills the phone connection and requires a soft reset to get it back. I backed out of everthing at that point since I'm on call and can't be without the phone.

1. Will I get the use of the gps back?
Negative, letting the customizations run on the stock verizon rom is the culprit, that locked down your gps. You just have to search on how to fix it, I believe you need to change your PRI or your PRL to get gps back.. not positive which but I've seen the fix on here
2. Will I need a new A-key? Nope
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs? Nope
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again?
Yes you can "downgrade" back to your verizon rom and radio as long as it is the verizon wm 6.1 rom because that still has a GPS radio. I have gone from the Bell 3.42.50 radio back to the Verizon 3.37.38 a couple times, as the .38 actually seems to have better reception in the location I am now than the .50
edit: If you do get your GPS working by finding a fix and decide to flash back to the stock verizon rom.....
DO NOT LET THE CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN (soft reset the phone before they start on the first boot)

Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??

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gogodj said:
Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??
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we have the radio ver.3.42.50 we dont have any problems what so ever

gogodj said:
Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??
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I went from 3.37.78 to 3.42.50 and saw no difference at all. Didn't seem to hurt anything, but didn't seem to help anything either. YMMV......

Thanks I updated to 3.42.50, didn't notice any change either

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Thanks I updated to 3.42.50, didn't notice any change either
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thats good

I have 3.37.78 and have had alot of dropped calls and missed text messages. I have to upgrade but have been lazy about it.
I have Verizon also and have successfully flash 9 different vouges
-2 (Insurance swaps) with the issue of GPS.
-3 (Friends) with the issue of GPS.
If your stuck and have a question just pm me. Ill be willing to guide you the correct way.

latest Verizon WM 6.1 ROM with upgraded 3.42.50 radio: possible?
So, is there any way to get a stock Verizon Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on my Vogue (avoiding poison customizations, etc.) and put on the Bell 3.42.50 radio? I'm using the 3.42.50 radio right now, and it ROCKS, but I'd like to go back to the standard Verizon software load, other than the radio firmware.
In the Kaiser world, there are RUUs that update the radio only. Do these exist for Vogue? This would seem to be the ticket...

wanderso said:
So, is there any way to get a stock Verizon Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on my Vogue (avoiding poison customizations, etc.) and put on the Bell 3.42.50 radio? I'm using the 3.42.50 radio right now, and it ROCKS, but I'd like to go back to the standard Verizon software load, other than the radio firmware.
In the Kaiser world, there are RUUs that update the radio only. Do these exist for Vogue? This would seem to be the ticket...
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Recently tackled this myself, due to the lack of a small SD card, I flashed the Bell ROM which includes radio: 3.42.50. Personally, NFSFAN's 6.5 (also works with his 6.1 build) suits me well, so I RUU'd that over top of the Bell ROM, the bell radio stuck, and both NFSFANs builds works well with that radio.
Official Bell ROM from HTC includes 3.42.50 radio: http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=70&cat=2&dl_id=98
****If you want to keep the stock Verizon software (ROM, etc) take a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415364 You can flash a stock Verizon ROM to your phone, and then, using a mSDcard flash the 3.42.50 radio.
Here is a link to the Official Verizon MR1 ROM
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon%20Wireless
GPS Fix for the stock MR1 ROM (works for me consistently)
Just make sure u scroll down to the proper walk-through (for the MR1 Rom)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
Good Luck.
Can anyo0ne comment on tethered data speeds from one radio to another?

Yes GPS again

Im sorry to bother everyone with another thread and yes ive read everything on the internet trying to get this solved.
I have an xv6900 that is obviously on Verizon. I can get the GPS to lock and have tried many things. Instead of going through everything I will tell you what I just did and you can let me know what I did wrong of what I'm missing.
-First my phone is unlocked with coke 2.3.1
-I just flashed the official Verizon 6.1 update to my phone
-I did not allow customizations to run
-I installed NFSFAN's 6.1 ROM and let customizations run
Ok that is all I have done right now and no GPS. I didn't do the aGPS fix yet because it takes a little while and the last time it didn't help.
Here is what im confused about
-With the official Verizon radio but a custom ROM do I need the Valhalla hack?
-Are there any other cabs that I need to get it to work? I have seen various provisioning cabs but none of them helped before.
If you have read this far thank you for taking your time and please let me know if you have any ideas on how I can get this working.
Thank You,
thecaptain0220

This is my understanding
(1) The XV6900 uses the onboard gpsOne chip to gather gps data. Unless you do the programming explained at
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
the phone with custom ROMS will never get any gps information.
As near as I can tell the gps settings in the phone's registry have no effect on the XV6900 because the gpsOne chip does the work and it is programmed separate from the phone's ROM.
Mine works with the TELUS settings in the gpsOne programming and I can change the registry every which way and the gps still follows the gpsOne settings.
Hope this helps.
(2) The verizon aGPS server authenticates the caller and if you are not paying for Verizon navigator the server will not send back any data; effectively killing the aGPS ability of the phone.
That is why you see references to the TELUS aGPS settings. This directs the gpsOne chip tou use the TELUS aGPS server, this works as long as TELUS allows it to work.

Thanks for the quick reply.
So if I flashed the official wm 6.1 Verizon update followed by NFSFAN's wm 6.1 ROM what fix should I do? Should I do Custom ROM aGPS, Verizon MR1 GPS, or Verizon MR2 GPS?
I am unclear when people say that Verizon cripples the GPS whether it is done in the Radio or the ROM.
I can flash a new radio too if that is what needs to be done. I wanted to keep the Verizon radio so that it said Verizon on start up but if I cant do that its not a big deal.

When you flash the Verizon 5.1 update DO NOT let the customizations run.
When the 'customization in 3 seconds' window comes up reset your phone by pressing the stylus in the hole on the bottom of the phone.
You already have the Verzion radio and do not need any of the programs they are going to install because you are going to flash a custom ROM.
After it resets do the gpsOne programming explained at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix. This programs the gpsOne chip in the phone so it can communicate with an aGPS server. Use the TELUS settings for IP and PORT not the VERIZON ones in the Wiki.
TELUS IP = 216.198.139.92
TELUS PORT = 8889
Then load any custom ROM you want. the gpsOne programming is not affected by flashing a ROM to the phone, it will work with what ever one you choose to use.

Did you read this thread and do what it says? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533639 I did and my XV6900 gps works great now.

I was going to try that but I have heard that downgrading to an older radio is not a good idea. Has anyone done this? Is there a correct procedure to flash back to an older radio?

I think I might have figured out one of my problems but I'm not sure where to go from here. I did allow the customizations to run on the official 6.1 upgrade a while back. I assumed that re flashing the upgrade and not allowing the customizations to run would fix this but I think I'm wrong, could someone confirm this for me? Is flashing back to an older ROM the only way to fix this? If so what steps can I follow to minimize the risk of bricking the phone when downgrading? If this is a totally bad idea someone please say so now.

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I think I might have figured out one of my problems but I'm not sure where to go from here. I did allow the customizations to run on the official 6.1 upgrade a while back. I assumed that re flashing the upgrade and not allowing the customizations to run would fix this but I think I'm wrong, could someone confirm this for me? Is flashing back to an older ROM the only way to fix this? If so what steps can I follow to minimize the risk of bricking the phone when downgrading? If this is a totally bad idea someone please say so now.
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The fact that you let the customizations run means you are fairly screwed. You can probably get your Gps to work. I would flash a pre-GPS ROM & start over if having a functioning GPS is important to you.

Can someone tell me where I can get a stock carrier release for Verizon?

thecaptain0220 said:
Can someone tell me where I can get a stock carrier release for Verizon?
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To fix the problem with the customizations running try these steps. It worked for me and all the links to files are included in the post.
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
After you flash back and then forward to the newer radio you will need to call Verizon and have them re-authenticate your phone. Just tell them you applied the 6.1 update from 6.0 and they will be glad to help.

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Can someone tell me where I can get a stock carrier release for Verizon?
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If you are talking about a pre-GPS ROM I don't know if you will find one?
If not then here is WM6.1 Stock
http://pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon Wireless

Most people are using GPS, but they still have to prime. I figured out how to not need to prime or launch, and made a thread on how to do it here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537360
Forget about AGPS, you dont need it. I get 15-30second locks, even right after a soft-reset, and I dont have a data plan
-C

Thank you to everyone who helped me out on this one, I now have aGPS and lock on satellites in a few seconds. I am even getting satellites inside my office where I hardly get cell reception.
For future reference if anyone reads this later here are the steps I used. The problem was definitely that I had let the customizations run.
I followed this link first, Pocket PC WIki:FIX VERIZON GPS
I had no problems at all and I didn't even have to get a new A-key.
Then I followed the Custom ROM Instructions in this link Verizon AGPSFix
IMPORTANT: I also followed VZYGuy's advice and use the following settings instead of the Verizon info in the fix.
TELUS IP = 216.198.139.92
TELUS PORT = 8889
After all this everything is finally working great and im using the Verizon radio with NFSFAN's 6.1 ROM

thecaptain0220 said:
Thank you to everyone who helped me out on this one, I now have aGPS and lock on satellites in a few seconds. I am even getting satellites inside my office where I hardly get cell reception.
For future reference if anyone reads this later here are the steps I used. The problem was definitely that I had let the customizations run.
I followed this link first, Pocket PC WIki:FIX VERIZON GPS
I had no problems at all and I didn't even have to get a new A-key.
Then I followed the Custom ROM Instructions in this link Verizon AGPSFix
IMPORTANT: I also followed VZYGuy's advice and use the following settings instead of the Verizon info in the fix.
TELUS IP = 216.198.139.92
TELUS PORT = 8889
After all this everything is finally working great and im using the Verizon radio with NFSFAN's 6.1 ROM
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Great! It's good to know it worked for someone other than me.
This also is the way to fix the XV6900 if it comes new from Verizon with wm6.1 already installed with the 'crippled' GPS drivers.

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I was going to try that but I have heard that downgrading to an older radio is not a good idea. Has anyone done this? Is there a correct procedure to flash back to an older radio?
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Yes read that entire thread. I did it and it worked for me.
EDIT: Ah I see you got it to work. Cool. Just for future FYI using the instructions I used, I did not have to do any customization other than 2 registry settings. Was much easier I think.