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Radio version and GPS ?'s

Is it necessary to flash to the latest Radio prior to using GPS? Do I need additional hardware to use GPS?
I have an Alltel branded Vogue, flashed using the latest RUU from HTC and then unlocked and flashed with the latest NFSFAN ROM. My radio version is 3.42.30, and I know there is a newer one available now, just being lazy not wanting to flash it two more times.
Right now, the phone cant lock on any satellites. I have tried using the tools that came with NFSFAN's ROM, and looked around on the net and on this site for answers, but must not be looking in the right place. I have tried going outside, changing options, every time the results are the same. Google Maps also fails to ever lock. I'm new to this, so be easy on me.
Thanks.

jashuacumbie said:
Is it necessary to flash to the latest Radio prior to using GPS? Do I need additional hardware to use GPS?
I have an Alltel branded Vogue, flashed using the latest RUU from HTC and then unlocked and flashed with the latest NFSFAN ROM. My radio version is 3.42.30, and I know there is a newer one available now, just being lazy not wanting to flash it two more times.
Right now, the phone cant lock on any satellites. I have tried using the tools that came with NFSFAN's ROM, and looked around on the net and on this site for answers, but must not be looking in the right place. I have tried going outside, changing options, every time the results are the same. Google Maps also fails to ever lock. I'm new to this, so be easy on me.
Thanks.
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Under settings, click on GPS settings
1. GPS program port
set to COM4
2. Hardware
GPS hardware port, none
Baud rate 4800
3. Access
make sure the box "manage GPS automatically" is checked
Also, when you flashed your altell radio, did you let all customizations run? If your with altell you should have.
If all else fails, when it's time to update to the final ROM tomorrow flash to the nnew Bell radio first (3.42.50)
Jason

Final ROM
NFSFAN is releasing a newer version tomorrow? I had no idea.
I did let all customizations run. Is it okay to let the Bell customizations run or do I have to reset when the timer starts?

awww man, I don't want to have to flash again. I just did it!

jashuacumbie said:
NFSFAN is releasing a newer version tomorrow? I had no idea.
I did let all customizations run. Is it okay to let the Bell customizations run or do I have to reset when the timer starts?
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dont let the bell customizations run if your not on bell.

your Radio is good..
you might try priming it with SeasGee app b4 running Google Maps or Sprint Navigator.also chk regkey:
HKLM\Software\HTC\SUPL_AGPS for the entries
"enable AGPS" set to 1
"enable GPS Smartmode" set to1
"GPS Mode" should be set to 2
and then the server IP and port are carrier specific...

I have the GPS working with the stock Verizon ROM & radio (3.37.78).

Upgrading Radio

This is a re-post of one I did on PPCGeeks. Haven't received an answer there yet.
I have a Verizon xv6900 that has the 2.31 unlocker on it. I have flashed to other 6.1 ROMs, but am currently running the stock Verizon one. When I flashed back to stock, I let the customizations run (I like the version of Opera that comes with it) and my gps is non-functional. I've fought Valhalla, all the "fixes" that seem to work only for specific users and am wondering if upgrading the radio will fix the GPS. I went back to the stock ROM because the bluetooth works with my Redfly. I would trade that for working gps in a custom ROM.
If I upgrade to the Bell ROM with radio 3.42.50,
1. Will I get the use of the gps back?
2. Will I need a new A-key?
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs?
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again?
Thanks for any help. I've read ImCoKeMaN's threads about downgrading radios and am just a little nervous about messing with the radio rather than just with the ROM.

You should but there has been problems like that with the stock verizon rom. Try to flash the Radio (3.4....or higher) and make sure you have Cokemans Unlocker/Bootloader.
If that doesnt work, refer to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462206
Hope you get the issue resolved. Good Luck!
1. Will I get the use of the gps back? Yes
2. Will I need a new A-key? Dont believe so
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs? No
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again? Once you have it fully flashed you can always go back to stock (without downgrading radio) I think it is NOT good to DOWNGRADE the Radio. You dont have to change it back to flash to stock.

Thanks for the information! I have searched for weeks and couldn't find that link! One other thing, I'm in W-S, NC! Out of all the people here, who'd have thought a next door neighbor would have the answer!

drowe said:
Thanks for the information! I have searched for weeks and couldn't find that link! One other thing, I'm in W-S, NC! Out of all the people here, who'd have thought a next door neighbor would have the answer!
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could you please post your results once you finish, oh and by the way, i'm in Ch-tte, NC

Glad I was able to help. Seems like quite a few of us are in NC.

No luck.... When I ran the second half of the directions first, no satelites were found. I then tried doing the ppst portion like the directions asked and nothing happens. It kills the phone connection and requires a soft reset to get it back. I backed out of everthing at that point since I'm on call and can't be without the phone.

1. Will I get the use of the gps back?
Negative, letting the customizations run on the stock verizon rom is the culprit, that locked down your gps. You just have to search on how to fix it, I believe you need to change your PRI or your PRL to get gps back.. not positive which but I've seen the fix on here
2. Will I need a new A-key? Nope
3. Will this lock me into using only custom ROMs? Nope
4. Can I flash back to stock Verizon and will it downgrade the radio and poison the gps again?
Yes you can "downgrade" back to your verizon rom and radio as long as it is the verizon wm 6.1 rom because that still has a GPS radio. I have gone from the Bell 3.42.50 radio back to the Verizon 3.37.38 a couple times, as the .38 actually seems to have better reception in the location I am now than the .50
edit: If you do get your GPS working by finding a fix and decide to flash back to the stock verizon rom.....
DO NOT LET THE CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN (soft reset the phone before they start on the first boot)

Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??

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gogodj said:
Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??
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we have the radio ver.3.42.50 we dont have any problems what so ever

gogodj said:
Hi Can anyone one confirm any perfomance change over using 3.37.77 or 3.37.78 or 3.42.50 radio ??
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I went from 3.37.78 to 3.42.50 and saw no difference at all. Didn't seem to hurt anything, but didn't seem to help anything either. YMMV......

Thanks I updated to 3.42.50, didn't notice any change either

gogodj said:
Thanks I updated to 3.42.50, didn't notice any change either
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thats good

I have 3.37.78 and have had alot of dropped calls and missed text messages. I have to upgrade but have been lazy about it.
I have Verizon also and have successfully flash 9 different vouges
-2 (Insurance swaps) with the issue of GPS.
-3 (Friends) with the issue of GPS.
If your stuck and have a question just pm me. Ill be willing to guide you the correct way.

latest Verizon WM 6.1 ROM with upgraded 3.42.50 radio: possible?
So, is there any way to get a stock Verizon Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on my Vogue (avoiding poison customizations, etc.) and put on the Bell 3.42.50 radio? I'm using the 3.42.50 radio right now, and it ROCKS, but I'd like to go back to the standard Verizon software load, other than the radio firmware.
In the Kaiser world, there are RUUs that update the radio only. Do these exist for Vogue? This would seem to be the ticket...

wanderso said:
So, is there any way to get a stock Verizon Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on my Vogue (avoiding poison customizations, etc.) and put on the Bell 3.42.50 radio? I'm using the 3.42.50 radio right now, and it ROCKS, but I'd like to go back to the standard Verizon software load, other than the radio firmware.
In the Kaiser world, there are RUUs that update the radio only. Do these exist for Vogue? This would seem to be the ticket...
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Recently tackled this myself, due to the lack of a small SD card, I flashed the Bell ROM which includes radio: 3.42.50. Personally, NFSFAN's 6.5 (also works with his 6.1 build) suits me well, so I RUU'd that over top of the Bell ROM, the bell radio stuck, and both NFSFANs builds works well with that radio.
Official Bell ROM from HTC includes 3.42.50 radio: http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=70&cat=2&dl_id=98
****If you want to keep the stock Verizon software (ROM, etc) take a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415364 You can flash a stock Verizon ROM to your phone, and then, using a mSDcard flash the 3.42.50 radio.
Here is a link to the Official Verizon MR1 ROM
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon%20Wireless
GPS Fix for the stock MR1 ROM (works for me consistently)
Just make sure u scroll down to the proper walk-through (for the MR1 Rom)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
Good Luck.
Can anyo0ne comment on tethered data speeds from one radio to another?

Yes GPS again

Im sorry to bother everyone with another thread and yes ive read everything on the internet trying to get this solved.
I have an xv6900 that is obviously on Verizon. I can get the GPS to lock and have tried many things. Instead of going through everything I will tell you what I just did and you can let me know what I did wrong of what I'm missing.
-First my phone is unlocked with coke 2.3.1
-I just flashed the official Verizon 6.1 update to my phone
-I did not allow customizations to run
-I installed NFSFAN's 6.1 ROM and let customizations run
Ok that is all I have done right now and no GPS. I didn't do the aGPS fix yet because it takes a little while and the last time it didn't help.
Here is what im confused about
-With the official Verizon radio but a custom ROM do I need the Valhalla hack?
-Are there any other cabs that I need to get it to work? I have seen various provisioning cabs but none of them helped before.
If you have read this far thank you for taking your time and please let me know if you have any ideas on how I can get this working.
Thank You,
thecaptain0220

This is my understanding
(1) The XV6900 uses the onboard gpsOne chip to gather gps data. Unless you do the programming explained at
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
the phone with custom ROMS will never get any gps information.
As near as I can tell the gps settings in the phone's registry have no effect on the XV6900 because the gpsOne chip does the work and it is programmed separate from the phone's ROM.
Mine works with the TELUS settings in the gpsOne programming and I can change the registry every which way and the gps still follows the gpsOne settings.
Hope this helps.
(2) The verizon aGPS server authenticates the caller and if you are not paying for Verizon navigator the server will not send back any data; effectively killing the aGPS ability of the phone.
That is why you see references to the TELUS aGPS settings. This directs the gpsOne chip tou use the TELUS aGPS server, this works as long as TELUS allows it to work.

Thanks for the quick reply.
So if I flashed the official wm 6.1 Verizon update followed by NFSFAN's wm 6.1 ROM what fix should I do? Should I do Custom ROM aGPS, Verizon MR1 GPS, or Verizon MR2 GPS?
I am unclear when people say that Verizon cripples the GPS whether it is done in the Radio or the ROM.
I can flash a new radio too if that is what needs to be done. I wanted to keep the Verizon radio so that it said Verizon on start up but if I cant do that its not a big deal.

When you flash the Verizon 5.1 update DO NOT let the customizations run.
When the 'customization in 3 seconds' window comes up reset your phone by pressing the stylus in the hole on the bottom of the phone.
You already have the Verzion radio and do not need any of the programs they are going to install because you are going to flash a custom ROM.
After it resets do the gpsOne programming explained at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix. This programs the gpsOne chip in the phone so it can communicate with an aGPS server. Use the TELUS settings for IP and PORT not the VERIZON ones in the Wiki.
TELUS IP = 216.198.139.92
TELUS PORT = 8889
Then load any custom ROM you want. the gpsOne programming is not affected by flashing a ROM to the phone, it will work with what ever one you choose to use.

Did you read this thread and do what it says? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533639 I did and my XV6900 gps works great now.

I was going to try that but I have heard that downgrading to an older radio is not a good idea. Has anyone done this? Is there a correct procedure to flash back to an older radio?

I think I might have figured out one of my problems but I'm not sure where to go from here. I did allow the customizations to run on the official 6.1 upgrade a while back. I assumed that re flashing the upgrade and not allowing the customizations to run would fix this but I think I'm wrong, could someone confirm this for me? Is flashing back to an older ROM the only way to fix this? If so what steps can I follow to minimize the risk of bricking the phone when downgrading? If this is a totally bad idea someone please say so now.

thecaptain0220 said:
I think I might have figured out one of my problems but I'm not sure where to go from here. I did allow the customizations to run on the official 6.1 upgrade a while back. I assumed that re flashing the upgrade and not allowing the customizations to run would fix this but I think I'm wrong, could someone confirm this for me? Is flashing back to an older ROM the only way to fix this? If so what steps can I follow to minimize the risk of bricking the phone when downgrading? If this is a totally bad idea someone please say so now.
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The fact that you let the customizations run means you are fairly screwed. You can probably get your Gps to work. I would flash a pre-GPS ROM & start over if having a functioning GPS is important to you.

Can someone tell me where I can get a stock carrier release for Verizon?

thecaptain0220 said:
Can someone tell me where I can get a stock carrier release for Verizon?
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To fix the problem with the customizations running try these steps. It worked for me and all the links to files are included in the post.
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
After you flash back and then forward to the newer radio you will need to call Verizon and have them re-authenticate your phone. Just tell them you applied the 6.1 update from 6.0 and they will be glad to help.

thecaptain0220 said:
Can someone tell me where I can get a stock carrier release for Verizon?
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If you are talking about a pre-GPS ROM I don't know if you will find one?
If not then here is WM6.1 Stock
http://pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon Wireless

Most people are using GPS, but they still have to prime. I figured out how to not need to prime or launch, and made a thread on how to do it here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537360
Forget about AGPS, you dont need it. I get 15-30second locks, even right after a soft-reset, and I dont have a data plan
-C

Thank you to everyone who helped me out on this one, I now have aGPS and lock on satellites in a few seconds. I am even getting satellites inside my office where I hardly get cell reception.
For future reference if anyone reads this later here are the steps I used. The problem was definitely that I had let the customizations run.
I followed this link first, Pocket PC WIki:FIX VERIZON GPS
I had no problems at all and I didn't even have to get a new A-key.
Then I followed the Custom ROM Instructions in this link Verizon AGPSFix
IMPORTANT: I also followed VZYGuy's advice and use the following settings instead of the Verizon info in the fix.
TELUS IP = 216.198.139.92
TELUS PORT = 8889
After all this everything is finally working great and im using the Verizon radio with NFSFAN's 6.1 ROM

thecaptain0220 said:
Thank you to everyone who helped me out on this one, I now have aGPS and lock on satellites in a few seconds. I am even getting satellites inside my office where I hardly get cell reception.
For future reference if anyone reads this later here are the steps I used. The problem was definitely that I had let the customizations run.
I followed this link first, Pocket PC WIki:FIX VERIZON GPS
I had no problems at all and I didn't even have to get a new A-key.
Then I followed the Custom ROM Instructions in this link Verizon AGPSFix
IMPORTANT: I also followed VZYGuy's advice and use the following settings instead of the Verizon info in the fix.
TELUS IP = 216.198.139.92
TELUS PORT = 8889
After all this everything is finally working great and im using the Verizon radio with NFSFAN's 6.1 ROM
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Great! It's good to know it worked for someone other than me.
This also is the way to fix the XV6900 if it comes new from Verizon with wm6.1 already installed with the 'crippled' GPS drivers.

thecaptain0220 said:
I was going to try that but I have heard that downgrading to an older radio is not a good idea. Has anyone done this? Is there a correct procedure to flash back to an older radio?
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Yes read that entire thread. I did it and it worked for me.
EDIT: Ah I see you got it to work. Cool. Just for future FYI using the instructions I used, I did not have to do any customization other than 2 registry settings. Was much easier I think.

3.42.40

Does anyone have a VOGUIMG.NHB of this. I tried the one for the titan it did not work. My brother have a Titan with this radio & he has service in places I do not, and I would like to be on the same footing as him.. I have a Sprint.. I've looked and I can not find a working NBH for that radio..

Radio
ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Vogue/Radios/VOGUIMG.3.42.40
Rename to VOGUIMG.NBH

Thanks for the new Radio
Just what I was looking for. A 'simple' radio only update. Perfect. Now lets see if the new radio [ I was at 3.42.30 ] is better signal wise.

Where do I have to put that file???

use a micro sd card formatted to fat32. copy file there. put it phone. enter bootloader mode and it will auto start. press power button to flash, when its done restart phone. easy

cnr0616 said:
ftp://up.ppcgeeks.com/Vogue/Radios/VOGUIMG.3.42.40
Rename to VOGUIMG.NBH
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This may be a stupid question but will updating the radio have any impact on GPS? I know that the cellular radio and gps are on the same chip but is the radio update solely for the cellular radio?

ambivalent-one said:
This may be a stupid question but will updating the radio have any impact on GPS? I know that the cellular radio and gps are on the same chip but is the radio update solely for the cellular radio?
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It should update GPS, it is a catch22 in some regions like here in Salt Lake Utah the sprint radio works better for GPS but has poor signal on my phone.

does this work better than 3.42.50?

I live in Michigan (Detroit) idk about you, but here I went from 1-2 Bars with .30 and .50 to 7 with .40.. It's a major upgrade the GPS is juss a tad bit slower.

whitey10tc said:
It should update GPS, it is a catch22 in some regions like here in Salt Lake Utah the sprint radio works better for GPS but has poor signal on my phone.
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For the life of me I can't get it to update using the micro SD or through usb using RUU. Keeps telling me the RUU isn't for my model of phone. The last one I tried got to 8% on the phone and then the phone rebooted and the RUU stated I had an incompatible handset. I have unlocked the SPL and succesfully loaded NSFFANs WinMo 6.5. So I know it's not a lock issue. The SD problem is likely caused by the card being 4gb (I have read that it has to be below 2gb). I really preffer doing the update using a RUU. So. My Vogue is a Telus Touch 3050. Does anybody have a link I can look at that addresses my particular phone and updating the radio only? Don't want a stock ROM loaded. Just a radio update to help with GPS lock times (hopefully).

SD card must ben NON HD, so 2gb or less.

ambivalent-one said:
For the life of me I can't get it to update using the micro SD or through usb using RUU. Keeps telling me the RUU isn't for my model of phone. The last one I tried got to 8% on the phone and then the phone rebooted and the RUU stated I had an incompatible handset. I have unlocked the SPL and succesfully loaded NSFFANs WinMo 6.5. So I know it's not a lock issue. The SD problem is likely caused by the card being 4gb (I have read that it has to be below 2gb). I really preffer doing the update using a RUU. So. My Vogue is a Telus Touch 3050. Does anybody have a link I can look at that addresses my particular phone and updating the radio only? Don't want a stock ROM loaded. Just a radio update to help with GPS lock times (hopefully).
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I'll upload them to my 4shared site here shortly.
I have the 3.42.30, 3.42.40, 3.42.50 As far as using an RUU I have never updated my radios that way but I know it can be done. Also you may want to partition your 4 gb card to 2 2gb partitions and see if that works. Also just to verify these are for CDMA Vogues AKA Touch. You will need to also use an RUU that is designated for the Touch Vogue.

This has the 3 radios mentions in my last post zipped together
http://www.4shared.com/file/143967240/244c2d8f/Vogue_radios.html

So just to be sure, out of the ones you posted, which is the best and latest radio for the CDMA Vogue? Is it .40 or .50? I have a Sprint Touch (CDMA Vogue) and I want to install NFSFAN's WinMo 6.5 ROM on it but I want to update the radio because I think that is recommended to get this ROM. Also, I would like to improve signal and GPS in general, so I want to update the radio anyway.
Also, can you please clarify how exactly I update the radio using these files. I read the post about renaming it properly (.nbh), putting it onto a microSD card with fat32 file system, going into bootloader mode, then restarting the phone. How exactly do you go into bootloader mode to install this update? If someone could link me to step by step instructions for beginners, or explain it here that would be great, thanks a bunch!

Hello
First insert an SD card with the radio properly named.
To enter BL mode just press and hold the power and camera buttons simultaneously and poke your stylus in to the soft reset hole located next to the usb /charger connector.the screen becomes three coloured.
Now follow the on screen instructions.finally soft reset after successful flashing and you are done.
I hope this helps.

Thanks for the reply. I just installed the new WinMo 6.5 ROM from vin on my phone and it worked. I still want to update my radio but I just want to make sure that the radio update won't overwrite the ROM upgrade, or make me have to do it over again.
This shouldn't happen right, like I should be able to just update the radio after installing this ROM and it should be fine?
Oh and one last thing, which is the best radio version to use for this phone? 3.42.40 or 3.42.50? I am currently using 3.42.30.
My original guess was .50, but apparently someone gets better signal with the .40 so I just want to be sure, thanks!!

Both .50 and .40 work well. .40 is newer than .50 but I used .50 for over a year and it was great.

http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=694930&postcount=1
Apparently Telus have the best radios over each system. And our 3.42.40 is equal to their 1.04.05v.. So check that list and see if .40 is in your range.

xadjustx said:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=694930&postcount=1
Apparently Telus have the best radios over each system. And our 3.42.40 is equal to their 1.04.05v.. So check that list and see if .40 is in your range.
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The link provided is for the Diamond and should not be used on a Vogue.
mfpreach said:
Both .50 and .40 work well. .40 is newer than .50 but I used .50 for over a year and it was great.
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.40 is only newr to the Vogue it was ported to the Vogue from the Titan.
GaMeBoY439 said:
Thanks for the reply. I just installed the new WinMo 6.5 ROM from vin on my phone and it worked. I still want to update my radio but I just want to make sure that the radio update won't overwrite the ROM upgrade, or make me have to do it over again.
This shouldn't happen right, like I should be able to just update the radio after installing this ROM and it should be fine?
Oh and one last thing, which is the best radio version to use for this phone? 3.42.40 or 3.42.50? I am currently using 3.42.30.
My original guess was .50, but apparently someone gets better signal with the .40 so I just want to be sure, thanks!!
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You will be fine just updating the radio it does nothing to the ROM. As for the best I think it depends what region you are in. You just need to experiment.

Hi All,
I have tried to flash a new radio on my new Vogue (Sprint HTC Touch) but for some reason I have been unable to do it. I have tried the following:
* Via SD (2GB non-SDHC)
* Via RUU in normal mode
* Via RUU in bootloader mode
* Re-downloading the files in case they were corrupted or something.
I have:
* Renamed the file(s) to VOGUIMG.nbh
* Unlocked and superCID unlocked my device
My phone is working fine with fairly good signal, but I read a few threads that mentioned that .40 has a faster lock for the GPS (as well as slightly better signal quality). I am currently on 3.37.10 and on WM 6.5.1 build 21864.
This is not my first time flashing anything by any means, but I cannot seem to be able to do this for some strange reason.
Any help is appreciated.
I actually got the RUU to start doing something but it stopped at around 30%

Referb came with 2.3.3 (4.22.651.2) and 1.90_003 PRI.... WTF?

So a bit of background first...
Been with sprint a couple months now and had data issues since day 1 (between 7 and 15 kB/s at home)home is worse but it generally sucked everywhere. I waited a few weeks to root while trying to resolve, but as it was not being fixed (and I was told ota would fix issues as it was radoi software in my area) I went with Kindom as soon as V dropped it. (rocks BTW I flashed a handful of others but always went back to it)
OTA dropped and I tried V's updated and of course it didnt improve speeds in fact they got slower... Called sprint back and went through another 3-4 calls before they sent me back to store for a full software check and breakdown of my phone. At that point I put myself back to s-on and stock for the visit (glad I did as they checked bootloader)
I was told at that point that they could do nothing as it was a evo issue (wtf) so called retention and was sent a airwave (not using it as I pay for data so I ant using my isp for that) and then a few calls later they finally send me a phone through advanced exchange. (supposedly new)
Sorry for the long backstory but now to the point...
I was told when I called Ret. that she would give me a 200 credit, but then came back and was told I didnt have enough support tickets filed to do so, and my only option was to try a new phone. Got the phone planning to take pics and vids of speedtest to send back to verify it is not a issue with my specific phone (had 3 friends with evos that have same issues, but epic blows away our speed in my house... found that hard to believe when I first saw it)
Phone came in and its refurb. On top of that it is on the GB update, but has a PRI of 1.90_003. To me that didnt seem right as every evo I have seen OTA or rooted OTA had the 2.15 so has anyone else seen this?
I plan on calling sprint as it was supposed to be new, not refurb, but want to make sure that this isnt something I just dont know about (doubtful... seems almost like a previously rooted with s-on?) so I can limit my time on phone and have a good stance to argue... Spent 6 hours on the phone with them already this week and dont want anymore than I have to.

Hmm interesting situation i am not expert on sprint by any means but try to keep up with my phone. a good question to ask sprint or if anyone else knows is ... what is sprints policy on updating phone when they are "refurbished"? I'd assume that if it meets the req to be refurbished they most likely updated it to gingerbread before reboxing. I guess thats a thought sorry i can't help with ur data issues but good luck

Sorry I should have shortened it down to not confuse...
Isuue is not the GB, but the PRI that came with the GB as it is not the correct PRI for that version...
1.90_003 vs 2.15_003 (what it should be)
I dont even want to touch the phone and then when it gets sent back have issues with them saying I rooted it, as there is no way to flash to a correct PRI that I know of at this time..
Edit: Or they may in fact be shipping with that version. Just hoping for others response and experience as it seemed fishy.

have u tried downgrading to 1.77 as well ?
its a wake issue fix for some sense gb roms out there but once again not specific to your problem

Had an AE replacement done recently, picked up 3 days ago. I received a new unit with GB and the 2.15_003 PRI.

Cannot downgrade, upgrade, anything... As stated this is a refurb phone that just came in. It is on the 4.22 so as far as I know there is no way to flash anything...
Its not rooted, though may be a previously rooted phone...
Basically has anyone seen a NON-ROOTED phone come with GB and 1.90 PRI
Edit: Ty jadigy that was more of the answer I was looking for

BloodKil said:
Cannot downgrade, upgrade, anything... As stated this is a refurb phone that just came in. It is on the 4.22 so as far as I know there is no way to flash anything...
Its not rooted, though may be a previously rooted phone...
Basically has anyone seen a NON-ROOTED phone come with GB and 1.90 PRI
Edit: Ty jadigy that was more of the answer I was looking for
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I have the same situation as you.

BloodKil said:
Cannot downgrade, upgrade, anything... As stated this is a refurb phone that just came in. It is on the 4.22 so as far as I know there is no way to flash anything...
Its not rooted, though may be a previously rooted phone...
Basically has anyone seen a NON-ROOTED phone come with GB and 1.90 PRI
Edit: Ty jadigy that was more of the answer I was looking for
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yes my replacement that I just got today has PRI 1.90_003. I updated to 4.24.651.1 and still the same PRI.
Is there a way for non-rooted phones to update their PRI?

Stuke00 said:
yes my replacement that I just got today has PRI 1.90_003. I updated to 4.24.651.1 and still the same PRI.
Is there a way for non-rooted phones to update their PRI?
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AFAIK there is not... hence my issue
After a couple hours on the phone with sprint (and a couple drinks after to make up for it) I was told it was a rooted device... I may have pointed them in that direction to get a replacement though. That said I also asked them if they were hiring as the first 6 people I talked to either did not know what a PRI was or simply did not know how to find out what was shipped with the 4.22 update.
I must say walking each one through the process only to be told they had no Idea and I finally asked for a store appointment. (hopefully a bit more luck there)
The general consensus seemed to be I should check to see if it said 2.3 for the android version and if it said anything but that (even 2.3.3 LOL) it was either a fake or rooted phone.
That said sprint has issues with their CS to say the least and I am thinking of starting a poll/ballot (probably not the right word... did I say a few drinks... I meant meant a few during and a few after) the devs/members here to work for sprint

sorry for cutting in..i just posted without reading this first,sry for that,but i am on the same pri,and it wont let me flash as well.1.90 003,this sucks

BloodKil said:
AFAIK there is not... hence my issue
After a couple hours on the phone with sprint (and a couple drinks after to make up for it) I was told it was a rooted device... I may have pointed them in that direction to get a replacement though. That said I also asked them if they were hiring as the first 6 people I talked to either did not know what a PRI was or simply did not know how to find out what was shipped with the 4.22 update.
I must say walking each one through the process only to be told they had no Idea and I finally asked for a store appointment. (hopefully a bit more luck there)
The general consensus seemed to be I should check to see if it said 2.3 for the android version and if it said anything but that (even 2.3.3 LOL) it was either a fake or rooted phone.
That said sprint has issues with their CS to say the least and I am thinking of starting a poll/ballot (probably not the right word... did I say a few drinks... I meant meant a few during and a few after) the devs/members here to work for sprint
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I called them last night too. Everytime I would say PRI they would say PRL, I finally explained the technical difference to the guy on the phone. Long story short he claimed their demo device was 1.90. Were you able to have them admit was version was the latest?

Is there a problem with having the 1.90 PRI or something?

Did you try the complete wipe with MSL and or other reset method that was used in the past to update the PRI. The real questions is why does it matter, but give it a shot.
To do a complete wipe, you will need your MSL code. Call sprint and they can give it to you.
Type in ##786# into the dialer, hit menu and chose reset and punch in your MSL. Your phone will clear out all data and settings except for your SD card. It will then reboot and do hands free activation, check for a PRL and firmware update. Somewhere in there you should get a newer PRI.
You can check your PRI version in About Phone under Software Information. If you don't succeed at first, keep trying...and trying...and trying.
Restoring your nandroid backup will not overwrite the new PRI, so you can get your phone back to the just the way you like it.
I'm not sure if there is a difference or just a placebo. Web pages seem to load faster. Some pre and post speed tests might have been helpful but I didn't have the foresight to do that.
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You may be able do the same thing without wiping your phone. Not sure if the wiping is a necessary part or what yet.
Steps:
Dial ##3282#
Enter Edit Mode
Enter your MSL
Select Data Profile
Menu
Restore
Let Phone Reboot, and Wait and the Hands Free Activation will Start.
Repeat until you have an updated PRI.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753233

If I was rooted I could do that... I do not know my MSL code as it requires root access to gain. Unless there is a new root method to 2.3.3 that I am not aware of.. that will not work for us.

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If I was rooted I could do that... I do not know my MSL code as it requires root access to gain. Unless there is a new root method to 2.3.3 that I am not aware of.. that will not work for us.
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Just do an online chat and they will give it to you. I tried the ##3282# method last night, no go.
Also my speeds are consistently below 250 kbps since having my old one replaced.

nettolt said:
Just do an online chat and they will give it to you. I tried the ##3282# method last night, no go.
Also my speeds are consistently below 250 kbps since having my old one replaced.
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Nope they wouldn't give it to me. Lame

Stuke00 said:
If I was rooted I could do that... I do not know my MSL code as it requires root access to gain. Unless there is a new root method to 2.3.3 that I am not aware of.. that will not work for us.
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With a post like that you should not care what PRI you have. You simply read a post and see that it says call "Sprint" You would need root to use an MSL reader from the market, but I don't believe this was ever mentioned. To do a full reset with the ## codes and the MSL you would not need ROOT.
Simply put if you are inquiring about the PRI or looking for a root method for an OTA 2.3.3 you must have not have used the search button.

cfendrick said:
With a post like that you should not care what PRI you have. You simply read a post and see that it says call "Sprint" You would need root to use an MSL reader from the market, but I don't believe this was ever mentioned. To do a full reset with the ## codes and the MSL you would not need ROOT.
Simply put if you are inquiring about the PRI or looking for a root method for an OTA 2.3.3 you must have not have used the search button.
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Did you read any of this thread before making your post? I really don't care what PRI I have, I was merely commenting on a post of someone else who also just got a refurb like myself with the older PRI version that should have been updated when the EVO software was updated to 4.22.651.2. I then proceeded to ask what the disadvantage was about having a 1.90_003 PRI, which no one responded to. I could care less if I root my phone or not, but the instructions you provided clearly indicated root was required considering it says to do a nandroid backup. I understand that sometimes Sprint will give you the MSL code, but in my case so far they have not been willing to do so. I would like to have the most recent version of whatever is available for my phone. Thanks.

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Nope they wouldn't give it to me. Lame
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If they did not supply it to you then you went around it the wrong way. Try, "Mr. Sprint agent I recently updated to the OTA 2.3 and have been experiencing some issues. I believe that I may be able to correct them myself with a full reset. I have done some of the software resets in the OS itself by going to settings/SD & phone storage/ Factory data reset. And I am still not grabbing a good signal. I have updated my profile and PRL in the System updates but think I should do a full reset using the # codes. The only problem is I need my MSL. Would you be able to supply this for me so I can manually reset and program my phone? This will hopefully resolve my issues and complete all my needs for this phone call."

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Did you read any of this thread before making your post? I really don't care what PRI I have, I was merely commenting on a post of someone else who also just got a refurb like myself with the older PRI version that should have been updated when the EVO software was updated to 4.22.651.2. I then proceeded to ask what the disadvantage was about having a 1.90_003 PRI, which no one responded to. I could care less if I root my phone or not, but the instructions you provided clearly indicated root was required considering it says to do a nandroid backup. I understand that sometimes Sprint will give you the MSL code, but in my case so far they have not been willing to do so. I would like to have the most recent version of whatever is available for my phone. Thanks.
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I can see your confusion with referencing a "Nandroid" and thinking this means you have to be Rooted. You can do all of the # codes without being Rooted. You need Root for a "Nandroid", you are correct. I am throwing out all of the actions in one step so this could apply to a rooted or non rooted users in some fashion. I usually always supply too much information rather than too little, so again I hope that clears up the confusions.
I myself am currently stuck on 2.3.3 build 4.24.651.1 and am waiting for what everyone else is that is stock.