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Dead XDA IIs (BA)

Hi all,
Noob user here
I've a problem with my XDA IIs that I thought I'd get some advice on rather than dispensing of it. Basically...it won't switch on. When plugged into mains the red light comes on for a bit then goes off.
Phone was working perfectly, put it in my pocket got home and nothing, assumed it crashed but doesn't respond to anything. Has been sat on my wardrobe for over a year but could do with using it for sat nav.
Any advice on what to try? Could be the battrey but don't wanna fork out extra cash for a new one as it's even more money lost
If I wasn't to fix it, any idea on what it's worth? Screen is unmarked and it has all standard accessories with it.
Ta

Save you BA man! More or less it's the battery (I think). Or the internal battery is drained to 0%. Have you tried charging it first for a couple of minutes?

Yeah tried charging overnight. Charge light comes on for a bit then goes out. Does the same thing when connected via usb, red light comes on but it doesn't register on the pc.
Was working fine but then one day it just woudn't come on. Would like to keep it if I can, got a touch diamond too now, but this is actually a better phone to use!

try to use a different battery first. And let's see what happens next.

Yeah, I may have to but want to avoid as much extra cost as I can
Bit more info, using the docking station plugged into the mains:
Batt alone - Charge light on dock comes on.
BA alone - Red light on BA comes on.
BA with batt attached - no lights on.
Any ideas??

can you try to put it in bootloader mode?

red_hanks said:
can you try to put it in bootloader mode?
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Don't know how to
Plus it doesn't actualls switch on or register on the PC, so can I do much to it?

It's just like what I did with my BA a few days ago, I am flashing it with a new ROM and while in the process I intentionally unplugged the cable during the process and I got an error on my PC and my BA does not turn on anymore. I tried to put it in bootloader mode a couple of times and it did and I re-flashed it again. And it works. Check the wiki...

red_hanks said:
try to use a different battery first. And let's see what happens next.
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yeah, the best thing to do to isolate the problem..
Astecas said:
Yeah, I may have to but want to avoid as much extra cost as I can
Any ideas??
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no need to buy at once, borrow first, then if your BA works using another's batt, thats the time you need to decide spending... cheers

The same problem I had!!!!!!!!!!
I had this trouble... and... YUP!!!!! is the backup battery.
So you cant charge your BA via USB if the main batt reaches less than 35% so keep it safely above 35% men...
BTW... if you have your batt less than 35% the OS can be runing just a little seconds so your batt is dying is not truth that it have 35% it has almost 5% trust me...
Yes!!!! the red led Turns On a little then Goes off... so sad isnt it?... now your backup batt is almost 0% thats why your red led appears... so...
Get a craddle USB-AC_Charging base it has a backtrace to charge apart the batt charge it individual. Once you get a full charged main batt, let your BA rest a little on the freezer to obtain a little power of the Backup batt... (YES ON THE FREEZER!!! ) at least 3 minutes before you plug the main batt.
It wakes up the device... maybe it becomes a few seconds on but... is enough.... if it starts... cradle your entire device on the craddle and wait till its full charged... again the green led appears cause the main is full but let it charge more and more... caus there is no led indicator for backup batt.
NOP!!!!!!! I dont do the freezer trick when i had this problem... cause i get it works faster than you...
Hope this works... post your adventure men....

Red Hanks/Que - Tried both those (ok, maybe not the freezer bit!), and stil no joy. Gonna go out over the weekend and see if a repair shop can try another battrey. Otherwise I may be saying goodbye :-(
Phezthie - The BA was rare when new, now they are non-existent. No chance of borrowing a friends.
Cheers for the help guys.

Well it is a nice idea!
you can make a modded battery for BA with two nokia bl 5c taiwan batts... check the post on winmo 6 subforum.

In my opinion. it's the internal battery since you didn't use the phone for over a year. Hope you can make your BA alive again because there's so much nice apps waiting out there...

I was using it daily before this though, it suddenly stopped working one day. It did however crash a few times before it finally went. I'll have a read up on changing internal batt. Red...I'm gonna try and save it!

Ok...keep us posted and good luck mate!

Astecas said:
Red Hanks/Que - Tried both those (ok, maybe not the freezer bit!), and stil no joy. Gonna go out over the weekend and see if a repair shop can try another battrey. Otherwise I may be saying goodbye :-(
Phezthie - The BA was rare when new, now they are non-existent. No chance of borrowing a friends.
Cheers for the help guys.
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both batteries, main and backup, could be the reason thats why you need to determine which one of it by isolating the cause of the problem. to know if its the main battery, you can improvise by using different battery with same voltage rating (3.7volts, no need to worry as to the Ah rating), but be sure to connect the proper polarity to the BA's correct pin terminals, otherwise, power circuit of your BA will be compromised.
As to the backup battery, you can do nothing it but to replace if defective. the "freezer trick" is actually one of the shattering myths of electronics and cannot be relied upon to have an optimal performance, as it neither charge nor extend the life of the battery. it simply reduces the the power dissipation (power loss due to heat and resistance) during the initial boot so that it can draw enough power to run unit in its chargeable condition.
but since it is not prossible to borrow or no available battery can be used as a test unit, I suggest that you try the first procedure aforementioned, this of course, if you are familiar with battery polarities and know the corresponding terminals of the unit. regards

Hmmmm, my diamond has a 3.7v batt...never thought of that!

I'm near preston, with the origional battery . .
I'm near preston, with the origional battery . . fully charged, will last 6/12Hrs=using it, P.M. me ur postcode + House #, I will send it to you to try
(stick with the BA, new HTC Elf is half the PPC, that the BA is!!!!)
FleaBay'd a 2400mAh (incl shipping)=under £10GBP !!! (late last year)
#===#===# Currently Being Pimped (1st go!) #===#===#

Cheers mate, but I've just paid for one off ebay so I'll just wait for that to come now. If it doesn't do it I may be selling up...
Fingers crossed

Ok, new battrey arrived this morning. Gave it a charge and just tried it...
....no change
Screen, green and blue top corner and red end call lights momentarily flash when I press the power button. Then nothing.
Both batteries seem to charge in the cradle but not in the phone.
So, any other suggestions oh technically superior ones??
Btw, I received 2 batteries this morning, so I've listed the new one to get some cash back here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3519343#post3519343

Problem: Battery shows 100% always

EDIT: The problem was that the battery driver isn't the best. At 3.99V it switched to 99%. So the problem is fixed now!
Hi guys.
I have a problem wih my Artemis. After flashing the USPL and a M6.5 ROM it always shows the Battery to be 100% changed and doesn't want to charge it. But I'm sure it isn't 100%.
The ROM isn't the problem cause with the device fully of the same thing happens if trieing it.
I tried to flash the SPL back but I only get errors.
Any help would be cool
Thanks

ChrBeck said:
Hi guys.
I have a problem wih my Artemis. After flashing the USPL and a M6.5 ROM it always shows the Battery to be 100% changed and doesn't want to charge it. But I'm sure it isn't 100%.
The ROM isn't the problem cause with the device fully of the same thing happens if trieing it.
I tried to flash the SPL back but I only get errors.
Any help would be cool
Thanks
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Hi,
Are you sure that isn't the ROM?
however you haven't tried to mount the original ROM?
bye,
Silvio

OK Answer: I'm sure. I tried 10 ROMs (7 cooked, the original, a HTC English original and HTC German Original). I tried 4 SPLs (Both USPLs (Pof, Cmonex) Original SPL and HTC WWE SPL). I tried 4 Radios too. I checked the Battery with a voltmeter several times and I got first 4.17V (seemd to be nearly full then) and second time I got 4.12 (sure it wasn't full anymore). Now I'm already running it in standby with GSM on for 6h and it still shows 100%. So I'm sure it isn't the ROM SPL or Radio.
Only things left are IPL or OEMSPL. Or maybe the Info recieved from the battery.
Thanks for your reply guy.
Any help would be nice.

then you tried to keep the pocket PC on for a day? to me the battery falls below 100% for 6 hours more or less ...
P.S. the battery is a 3.7V... 4.17-12V ...is full!
Bye,
Silvio

The battery is full at 4.2V as written on it. Compared to my Kaiser it sould only have 80% with 4.12V. And yea I'll leave it on till it goes off itself to know when the battery is empty. When it is empty I'm sure I can't carge anymore if it still thinks it is full but for that problem I have a 4.5V AC/DC adaptor to recharge the battery.
By the way which sence do the 3rd and 4th pin have? They don't have any voltage. Are they for the Vibration motor or do they transmit the charging state to the phone?

ChrBeck said:
The battery is full at 4.2V as written on it. Compared to my Kaiser it sould only have 80% with 4.12V. And yea I'll leave it on till it goes off itself to know when the battery is empty. When it is empty I'm sure I can't carge anymore if it still thinks it is full but for that problem I have a 4.5V AC/DC adaptor to recharge the battery.
By the way which sence do the 3rd and 4th pin have? They don't have any voltage. Are they for the Vibration motor or do they transmit the charging state to the phone?
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I don't know it utility...
however happened to me and I resolved discharged, I do not know what else to do...
P.S. when my battery is fully charged 3.9V marks... sorry for my imperfect english

No problem. Maybe I have to connect + to - very short to get the Voltage down. But first I'll just let it lay there in standby with phone on and see how it goes. Then if it goes off I'm sure the battery is empty. then I can start bench the Charging with external system.
That won't solve the problem but then I'll have a benchmark.
Thanks for your infos and tips.
And your English is no problem to me.

not at all
let me know if it works
Bye

Yea I will.

Solution
GO TO REGISTRY
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\security\ResOver\Bitmaps]
AND REMOVE:
"BatteryIconIdStart"=dword:000003E9
"BatteryIconLevels"=dword:00000065
RESTART, DONE !!!

ChrBeck said:
EDIT: The problem was that the battery driver isn't the best. At 3.99V it switched to 99%. So the problem is fixed now!
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Hi
if I may ask do you happen to have any better driver or how did you manage to fix your problem as i happen to have the same.
thanks in advance.

Didn't work. But anyway as I said in first post the problem is fixed. The battery has just a very bad voltage curve as i found out using a voltmeter while discharging.
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@mjonase:
I just waited. It takes until the battery is unter 4V. Then it switched to 99%. The driver isn't the problem just the OEMSPL and the battery itself. Just switch on bluetooth and phone and keep the device on. After max 1h the battery level bar will change.

thanks @ChrBeck it seems i gut a different prob altogether mine seems to be a faulty h/w ,charges up and shows 100% if i remove it from the charger the battery drops quite quick, and when i reset it comes back with almost nothing left but when i charge the battery externally it can keep the charge for approx 2-2 1/2 days. so my artemis does false charge ups i guess.

Yea I think it doesn't charge right.
That is a different problem.

WM 6.5 Shady313 ROM (23081 R2)?
Hi,
can anyone tell me, where I can download the WM 6.5 - 23081 R2 version ? I wan't downgrade my version from the newest version 24623 to 23081 because the sms bug can't fix.
Thanks for your help!

This thread is over 2 years old and has NOTHING to do with your rom request. Stop reviving old threads and use the search function please.
This one is closed.

Help needed, dead BA

Well, as always XDA developers is what you use when noone else helps you, my freaking BA is acting strange:
1. The phone doesnt turn on when the battery is in. Tried charging the battery 100% and switching it on but it just doesnt turn on.
2. Now when I place the BA in the cradle, the phone turns on but it just keeps on restarting.
Somebody please help me out.
The phone worked fine until when I tried to tape the body and the battery with cello tape, that is when it went dead, and now I have the two problems mentioned above.
Help me guys,
Thanks a ton all.

try a new battery.
and check the battery lock..

jack_brown12001 said:
Well, as always XDA developers is what you use when noone else helps you, my freaking BA is acting strange:
1. The phone doesnt turn on when the battery is in. Tried charging the battery 100% and switching it on but it just doesnt turn on.
2. Now when I place the BA in the cradle, the phone turns on but it just keeps on restarting.
Somebody please help me out.
The phone worked fine until when I tried to tape the body and the battery with cello tape, that is when it went dead, and now I have the two problems mentioned above.
Help me guys,
Thanks a ton all.
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You might have messed up the pins connecting the battery to the device. Also, the little lock for the battery could be damaged as well. Finally, your backup battery could have died also. Hopefully this will give you some guidance towards the root of the problem. Chef has a disassembly guide in his tutorial.

well thanks guys for those responses. My updates are:
1. Since the battery was over 3 years old, I have ordered a new battery (yeah i know i should've checked with another battery first but damn noone else i know uses this phone). So till my new battery arrives I just got to wait.
2. Regarding ezthunder's replies... well I checked the battery connectors on the phone, they seem to look alright to me (physically), how do i test them to check if they're alright, pls help.
Also, regarding the backup battery, damn i would now need to search the net to find a new one.
The battery locking clip seems to be fine and is locks the battery in place, if this is damaged, I'd be freaking damned to try and get this one fixed.
So guys, any DIY suggestions to get these things fixed would be welcome as I dont wanna brick my BA, freaking just put in a new LCD digitizer.

jack_brown12001 said:
well thanks guys for those responses. My updates are:
1. Since the battery was over 3 years old, I have ordered a new battery (yeah i know i should've checked with another battery first but damn noone else i know uses this phone). So till my new battery arrives I just got to wait.
2. Regarding ezthunder's replies... well I checked the battery connectors on the phone, they seem to look alright to me (physically), how do i test them to check if they're alright, pls help.
Also, regarding the backup battery, damn i would now need to search the net to find a new one.
The battery locking clip seems to be fine and is locks the battery in place, if this is damaged, I'd be freaking damned to try and get this one fixed.
So guys, any DIY suggestions to get these things fixed would be welcome as I dont wanna brick my BA, freaking just put in a new LCD digitizer.
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Let us know what happens when the new battery arrives and we'll go from there.

well my battery arrived yesterday, i put it in and tried to switch it on but alas nothing. Charged the battery full and put it in but no start up.
Just the same old problem, phone keeps restarting when in the cradle but nothing when out.
Help me guys............

Well still no response from the forum, however, I have a few updates and hope this could make it easier for someone to figure out the problem:
A strange thing happened yesterday -
1. when I disconnected the flex cable of the buttons and the keypad on the front panel from the main board and put the entire thing on the charging cradle. IT WORKED. I mean it didnt do the restarting problem, it worked perfect. However when I took it out of the cradle, it wont power on. While it was on on the cradle, i checked the internal battery and it showed 100% charge, which means that the internal battery is good.
2. Now back when I connected the flex cable to the connector on the board and power it on - nothing happens and when put in the cradle - the same restarting issue right after the statup screen.
So based on the above - what are your conclusions, is there a problem with the flex cable connector but then in that case it should start when taken out of the cradle.
And yes, its a new battery that I just got. So guess its not a problem with the battery...
Help me guys. I really want to get back my BA... it was such a pleasure to see it working in the cradle with mentioned in point 1 above.
PS. I left it on the charge for the whole night yesterday but no change when taken out of the cradle - just desperate to try anything to get it to work.

jack_brown12001 said:
Well still no response from the forum, however, I have a few updates and hope this could make it easier for someone to figure out the problem:
A strange thing happened yesterday -
1. when I disconnected the flex cable of the buttons and the keypad on the front panel from the main board and put the entire thing on the charging cradle. IT WORKED. I mean it didnt do the restarting problem, it worked perfect. However when I took it out of the cradle, it wont power on. While it was on on the cradle, i checked the internal battery and it showed 100% charge, which means that the internal battery is good.
2. Now back when I connected the flex cable to the connector on the board and power it on - nothing happens and when put in the cradle - the same restarting issue right after the statup screen.
So based on the above - what are your conclusions, is there a problem with the flex cable connector but then in that case it should start when taken out of the cradle.
And yes, its a new battery that I just got. So guess its not a problem with the battery...
Help me guys. I really want to get back my BA... it was such a pleasure to see it working in the cradle with mentioned in point 1 above.
PS. I left it on the charge for the whole night yesterday but no change when taken out of the cradle - just desperate to try anything to get it to work.
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Judging from this, it seems that there is a problem with the motherboard itself. I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like to me. You can probably get a new BA from Market Place. I have seen a few members selling them lately.

*bump* still waiting for some good soul to help me out with the prob... i really dont wanna lose this phone...blue angels are real beautiful babies to have around...

Battery drain 10% after restart

I am looking for an explanation on my problem. Every time I restart my sm-t520 the battery shows 10% less than before the restart. If I turn the tablet off for about 30 seconds, and turn on the tablet, the battery shows what it suppose to.
Could it be that the connector for the battery is loose or something? It does that on every rom I flash

Same problem on stock?

checkdamb said:
Same problem on stock?
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Yes, but i just took off the back cover and unpluged the battery connector and pluged it back in seems fine now. Don't know what was the problem. I will test it some more to see if its really fixed or just my imagination

coco1476 said:
Yes, but i just took off the back cover and unpluged the battery connector and pluged it back in seems fine now. Don't know what was the problem. I will test it some more to see if its really fixed or just my imagination
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Okay, if problem is still there so let us know

Perhaps "easy battery calibration" can help you
regards

checkdamb said:
Okay, if problem is still there so let us know
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Everything seems good since yesterday, tried several times to restart the tablet and always shows good battery percentage. So just unplug and replug battery connector did the job.

coco1476 said:
Everything seems good since yesterday, tried several times to restart the tablet and always shows good battery percentage. So just unplug and replug battery connector did the job.
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So it seems like to be a hardware problem and you nsolved it... But i can not understand how the battery connector should be responsible for draining ...

checkdamb said:
So it seems like to be a hardware problem and you nsolved it... But i can not understand how the battery connector should be responsible for draining ...
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I bought this tablet used from someone. Maybe this person droped the tablet when he had it and the connector was half disconnected (just my thought). But its running good now

coco1476 said:
I bought this tablet used from someone. Maybe this person droped the tablet when he had it and the connector was half disconnected (just my thought). But its running good now
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Thats the reason :good:

A really strange Battery/Display problem

Hey guys, my G3 worked over 2,5 years flawlessly. The last weeks, I recognized a strange behaviour of the battery. The device reboots randomly and after that it has around 15% of battery left. I thought, well, the battery is not the best anymore but works though. However, today it did that again and now my screen won't turn on. I tried all buttons combinations, charged via powerbank, laptop, original wall plug with or without battery inserted... nothing helps. Sometimes the screen goes on for a short time flickering and fading back to black. It definitely works somehow because i can access WhatsApp web and see the notification LED working. I simply don't understand if I have a really bad battery that influences the display (is it worth investing 20$ in a new one for testing?) or if both, battery and display, are dead and i should go for a new device
Greetz, deermichel
EDIT: Maybe a useful additional info: If i connect the phone with no battery inserted to power, the display backlight works. If i do the same with the battery, nothing happens at all.

DeerMichel said:
Hey guys, my G3 worked over 2,5 years flawlessly. The last weeks, I recognized a strange behaviour of the battery. The device reboots randomly and after that it has around 15% of battery left. I thought, well, the battery is not the best anymore but works though. However, today it did that again and now my screen won't turn on. I tried all buttons combinations, charged via powerbank, laptop, original wall plug with or without battery inserted... nothing helps. Sometimes the screen goes on for a short time flickering and fading back to black. It definitely works somehow because i can access WhatsApp web and see the notification LED working. I simply don't understand if I have a really bad battery that influences the display (is it worth investing 20$ in a new one for testing?) or if both, battery and display, are dead and i should go for a new device
Greetz, deermichel
EDIT: Maybe a useful additional info: If i connect the phone with no battery inserted to power, the display backlight works. If i do the same with the battery, nothing happens at all.
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Ur battery is dead, this happened to me also.
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Ok, i ordered a replacement battery. Let's see if that helps... I just can't imagine why the display is affected even with the power plug connected. Hopefully, the motherboard is fine.

DeerMichel said:
Ok, i ordered a replacement battery. Let's see if that helps... I just can't imagine why the display is affected even with the power plug connected. Hopefully, the motherboard is fine.
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If the new battery doesn't help then your motherboard is dead ..
I had the same issues and I've got new motherboard.....
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Ok, the new battery didnt help... So i guess its a problem of display/motherboard. I found out that it works perfectly in the fridge. Is the GPU overheating?

And why on earth do battery problems result in that?? I started an app aaaand its gone

i would just get a new phone.

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And why on earth do battery problems result in that?? I started an app aaaand its gone
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Had the same problem ,about 3 weeks ago...
I've send the phone for reparation...
Now i have a new motherboard and a fresh installed v30n mm...
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Yeah, i just read a huge thread with all the stuff... Paper trick (which got it back working for now), baking, etc. But since nothing really helps, I might get the new OnePlus which will be released in some days. A sad end cause I loved my G3...

DeerMichel said:
Yeah, i just read a huge thread with all the stuff... Paper trick (which got it back working for now), baking, etc. But since nothing really helps, I might get the new OnePlus which will be released in some days. A sad end cause I loved my G3...
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Btw..oneplus3T is a great choice...
I'm between oneplus or mate9.....
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