I am using a free 30 day data tarriff trial from Vodafone at the moment so decided to alter the sync options on Windows Live to check for new mail every 15 mins or so, it looks like it has done this but the problem is when it started the GPRS connection last night, it did not disconnect it, so I woke this morning to find my diamond had been connected to the GPRS Data Connection for over 8 and a half hours !!!!
I had used Diamond Tweak, etc to tell it to kill any GPRS/3G Connections after 1 minute of inactivity but it does not seem to be working when I test it, can someone point me to the reg keys so I can alter them myself, I want WM to kill any 3G / GPRS Connections after 1 minute of inactivity.
If I had not been on this data tarriff thing I shudder to think how much my diamond could have cost me overnight
Many thanks guys.
P.s I posted in the ROM section as I am having a go at building my own rom and such so want to make sure that when I have the keys and hve tested they work, I can cook them into the rom so I don't forget them.
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I am using a free 30 day data tarriff trial from Vodafone at the moment so decided to alter the sync options on Windows Live to check for new mail every 15 mins or so, it looks like it has done this but the problem is when it started the GPRS connection last night, it did not disconnect it, so I woke this morning to find my diamond had been connected to the GPRS Data Connection for over 8 and a half hours !!!!
I had used Diamond Tweak, etc to tell it to kill any GPRS/3G Connections after 1 minute of inactivity but it does not seem to be working when I test it, can someone point me to the reg keys so I can alter them myself, I want WM to kill any 3G / GPRS Connections after 1 minute of inactivity.
If I had not been on this data tarriff thing I shudder to think how much my diamond could have cost me overnight
Many thanks guys.
P.s I posted in the ROM section as I am having a go at building my own rom and such so want to make sure that when I have the keys and hve tested they work, I can cook them into the rom so I don't forget them.
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hi, try this... it's taken from a script but reg keys are readable
## TURN OFF GPRS AUTOMATICALLY, UNCOMMENT NEXT LINE TO DISABLE THIS TWEAK ##
#RegWriteDWord("HKLM","\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings","CacheTime",60)
#RegWriteMultiString("HKLM","\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings","SuspendResume",Array("GPRS_bye_if_device_off"))
Thanks but already got those in the Reg. Anyone else got any ideas ?
Maybe try this?
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction]
"NoGPRSAutoAttach"=dword:00000001
And GPRS will be connected ONLY by demand....
Thanks but this is also set via DiamondTweak / Advanced Config.
Thanks for your help guys, I have hunted around myself a bit and can't find a proper fix, for the moment I just make sure I disconnect the session when I let it update my emails etc.
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I have seen this question asked several times but I have not be able to find an good answer.
I want to use the WiFi bit of my XDA2s for various things including MSN, what I dont want however is when I walk out of range of the hub is the thing to connect on GPRS and start running up a big usuage bill without my knowledge. I have tried following various instructions but I still get the connecting to GPRS message up.
Is there a way to disable GPRS so it does not even attempt to connect.
TIA
Brynn
I'd also like to know. I know GPRS isn't meant to cost anything unless you actually browse the web etc, but the other day I installed the SPB GPRS monitor and told it that it costs £2.35 per Mb, and noticed that it costs about 30p just to connect! Then another 30p to disconnect! WTF is that about?!?!
Also, it DOES cost just to sit there connected!! Is there some kinda prog sending anonymous usage statistics that I don't know about?
Whilst on the subject, does anyone know if 02 UK have started charging for GPRS yet? I've never had it included in my bill but I've heard they started charging as from the 1st May.. I sure hope not
Cheers -Mike
Disable GPRS
One way is to delete all GPRS-Connections (the most of them are predefined from the provider) under "Settings" -> "Connections".
When the PocketPC has no GPRS-Connection defined it can't dial a GPRS-Connection.
I only got the orbit 2 days ago and am still finding my way around it? I can't help but feel its often starting to connect to GPRS without my saying so, am fearing a rather large bill! Please can anyone help me and let me know how to disable automatic GPRS connection?
Many kind regards,
Dan (DJK2482) [email protected]
hope it'll work for U
thanks for that
I have just found and installed this http://www.benrichards.co.uk/?p=180 it seems to be working at the moment, will keep thread updated as to how things go!
this looks handy as i found twice that my gprs had connected for over 30 mins while phone was in my pocket
cool Looks promising!
fox 2 said:
this looks handy as i found twice that my gprs had connected for over 30 mins while phone was in my pocket
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Errr, you do know that GPRS doesn't charge per minute, don't you? Being connected for 30 minutes, but transmitting only a few bytes of data will cost you next to nothing.
yes i do know but things like messenger and ie had opened so shouldnt be too much
Hi all!
I know this has been discussed before, but it has never really been answered or a *working* solution been found to this problem:
I have the Cingular 8525 and my WAN connection (yes, no matter if it's Edge, 3G or HSDPA and no matter if I use isp.cingular or wap.cingular) just seems to die off after the PDA has been sitting for a while in STANDBY.
After seeing how incredibly stable and reliable all the blackberrys work, I still opted for the PDA because I liked the versatility plus the ADVERTISED push capabilities of it.
Apart from non-working tools like "gprs keepalive" etc, how can anyone REALLY PREVENT programs that are running from being stopped? Is there a Reg-Hack for this?
Here's my setup. Fresh blank WM VI Black 2.0 (great imags jas !!) and ONLY VGSMail (for mailpush) and IM+ for yahoo messenger installed. Rest absolutely untouched. Everything works fine as long as the thing is actually ON (display lit up and everything). Once i either wait for the timeout or manually put it in standby by pressing the power button, the Yahoo IM+ will react for another 5 minutes, but VGSmail almost immediately goes deaf. I have a TCP bridge in front of my IMAP server so I can see all in/out traffic to the IMAP by just accepting connections on port 1430 and routing all traffic to 143 while dumping it into a log. I can see the PDA connect the server and go into IDLE. Every time a new message arrives, the PDA is SUPPOSED to get it, but it just doesn't when it's in standby. Completely defeats the whole purpose of it.
Long story short:
HOW do you prevent the connection/radio/windows/software from "silently falling asleep" when the connection should stay open and new messages (email via VGS or IMs via IM+) should be received?
P.s. I already used the included HTweakC to acticate autoconnect and permanent connect. opens up the connection fine after reboot, but that's it!
THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY IMAGE I HAVE TRIED! Original Cingular, Cingular Hacked AKU3.3, Black 1.2 and Black 2.0 :-((
Thanks
Ive had the same issues, my internet connection will just randomly quit on me. One second it will be working the next it will disconnect. Seems to be when I bring it out of standby or get a call. Definitely not as stable as WM5 was.
Radio Version?
Which radio version are you running? I have two things different with my configuration, but I had similar issues with my service (T-Mo USA).
My GPRS connection would hang, even when on the charger (not sleeping).
Turns out a radio update caused the behavior to quit altogether. I could drive completely across town, and have 10-15 new emails in my box, whereas before, I had to either press/hold the disconnect button, or soft reset.
My current versions are in my signature.
Hope this helps.
electron73 said:
Hi all!
I know this has been discussed before, but it has never really been answered or a *working* solution been found to this problem:
I have the Cingular 8525 and my WAN connection (yes, no matter if it's Edge, 3G or HSDPA and no matter if I use isp.cingular or wap.cingular) just seems to die off after the PDA has been sitting for a while in STANDBY.
After seeing how incredibly stable and reliable all the blackberrys work, I still opted for the PDA because I liked the versatility plus the ADVERTISED push capabilities of it.
Apart from non-working tools like "gprs keepalive" etc, how can anyone REALLY PREVENT programs that are running from being stopped? Is there a Reg-Hack for this?
Here's my setup. Fresh blank WM VI Black 2.0 (great imags jas !!) and ONLY VGSMail (for mailpush) and IM+ for yahoo messenger installed. Rest absolutely untouched. Everything works fine as long as the thing is actually ON (display lit up and everything). Once i either wait for the timeout or manually put it in standby by pressing the power button, the Yahoo IM+ will react for another 5 minutes, but VGSmail almost immediately goes deaf. I have a TCP bridge in front of my IMAP server so I can see all in/out traffic to the IMAP by just accepting connections on port 1430 and routing all traffic to 143 while dumping it into a log. I can see the PDA connect the server and go into IDLE. Every time a new message arrives, the PDA is SUPPOSED to get it, but it just doesn't when it's in standby. Completely defeats the whole purpose of it.
Long story short:
HOW do you prevent the connection/radio/windows/software from "silently falling asleep" when the connection should stay open and new messages (email via VGS or IMs via IM+) should be received?
P.s. I already used the included HTweakC to acticate autoconnect and permanent connect. opens up the connection fine after reboot, but that's it!
THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY IMAGE I HAVE TRIED! Original Cingular, Cingular Hacked AKU3.3, Black 1.2 and Black 2.0 :-((
Thanks
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silverfox0214 said:
Which radio version are you running? I have two things different with my configuration, but I had similar issues with my service (T-Mo USA).
My GPRS connection would hang, even when on the charger (not sleeping).
Turns out a radio update caused the behavior to quit altogether. I could drive completely across town, and have 10-15 new emails in my box, whereas before, I had to either press/hold the disconnect button, or soft reset.
My current versions are in my signature.
Hope this helps.
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Yeah, I had radio 1.27.00.00 before, now I have 1.38.30.10
Also I do have newest Hard-SPL 1.40 installed. So I'm pretty much cutting edge here. Howewer, the PROBLEM has been annoying me since WM2003SE.
Is it just the way it is with desktops? Micky Mouse Soft dominates the market, releases one pile of **** after another, never really fixing bugs but introducing new ones by the thousands and we users (who in this case have paid $500 for the device) are left in the dust?
If I just imagine delivering buggy crap like this to MY customers, they would kill me!
Anyone have some good ideas or hacks? I definitely need to get this working at least to a somewhat acceptable level. Since having the Hermes with the first "original" WM5 on it, I got used to rebooting that unreliable Micro$hit every morning when I get up, to make it usually just about last for the day. I'm definitely not willing to reboot every hour !!!
I have this problem
I have this problem however I still receive push email. the most annoying thing is that I cannot keep a data session active with a voice call.
I am on Orange UK network. I use 4smartphone's hosted exchange service. I get directpush working 24/7 with Black 2.0 OS. I also receive my pop email whilst on voicecalls.
So its not a WM6 issue. Its either your network or your connection settings.
I must say that it actually improved a lot since installing Black 2.0. However, the connection still silently dies off eventually. I now have a makeshift solution using FlexMail, set to poll emails every 15 min. So what happens is as long as the PDA is ON, I get immediate PUSH mail. Once I put it in standby, it continues to work for a minute or two, then the connection ****s up. Every 15 min Flexmail wakes up and polls for emails, which most of the times seems to work as I can see in my logfile that every 15 min the tcp connection opens up and the server dumps all new mails over to the phone. It then enters IDLE and at some point dies away with "recv(): connection timed out".
So it's all pretty messy still and I'm wondering what you can do to PREVENT the line from silently dying in the first place. Tried tools like GPRS Keepalive with no luck, since the whole program stops being executed in standby and hence it can not keep the connection up = useless. I need some hack/tool/program that stays active during standby! Then I could just have it ping my mailserver once per minute to keep the connection open.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
Could my problem be related? - see my post under Treo 750:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324495
I am testing to see if I get the same behaviour with 3G/UMTS as I do with GPRS....
i'm using wm6 bepe 0.76 with radio 1.46
i was just wondering if there is a way to keep the wifi connection always on (mainly to keep skype always connected)
is it possible guys ?
Sure but it eats you power, and borthers you when new AP are detected... if you can live with this no prob...
Personally I switch it off when I go out and switch it on when I arrive at home or office...
banzro said:
Sure but it eats you power, and borthers you when new AP are detected... if you can live with this no prob...
Personally I switch it off when I go out and switch it on when I arrive at home or office...
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the thing is when the trinity goes into its 'stand by mode' and turn off the screen, wifi connection is lost. i tried from PC to call my skype account on trinity to make sure and i got 'user not online'
is there any application or some registry hack to keep it always on like how GPRS /3G/edge r ?
doudydoudy said:
the thing is when the trinity goes into its 'stand by mode' and turn off the screen, wifi connection is lost. i tried from PC to call my skype account on trinity to make sure and i got 'user not online'
is there any application or some registry hack to keep it always on like how GPRS /3G/edge r ?
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If you use psShutXP, you can press the LIGHT OFF button, and it will only turn off the screen...
doudydoudy said:
the thing is when the trinity goes into its 'stand by mode' and turn off the screen, wifi connection is lost. i tried from PC to call my skype account on trinity to make sure and i got 'user not online'
is there any application or some registry hack to keep it always on like how GPRS /3G/edge r ?
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You can change your power settings to never let your device go automatically into standby mode which would allow the wifi to stay connected. I wouldn't recommend this unless you have it plugged into the power supply because the battery won't last the whole day with wifi always activated.
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If you use psShutXP, you can press the LIGHT OFF button, and it will only turn off the screen...
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thanks so much !
searching for the prog right NOW !
A little late but someone maybe finds it usefull, no need for programs, all you have to do is this:
The solution to have "always on" wi-fi, is applying three registry hacks. Please note that you must apply all three registry edits and soft reset your device before this takes effect. If you're looking for a free and reliable registry editor for your Windows Mobile device, you can take a look at the PHM Registry Editor.
The necessary registry edits are:
1. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006} - change to 1
2. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006} change to 1
3. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006} change to 1
Now the wi-fi connection will stay on even while your device is suspended. Remember that you'll have to re-enable the wi-fi connection if you soft-reset your device, though.
Tested and it works!
Hi!
Is there something that could auto disconnect GPRS/WiFi, lets say after 10 min, if it wasn't used?
I wanted setup to check for new mail every 2 hours, and it connects to GPRS and then it stays connected forever, draining the battery without purpose...
Thank you.
I found one for WM5, and not sure if it will work for WM6...
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
[email protected] said:
Hi!
Is there something that could auto disconnect GPRS/WiFi, lets say after 10 min, if it wasn't used?
I wanted setup to check for new mail every 2 hours, and it connects to GPRS and then it stays connected forever, draining the battery without purpose...
Thank you.
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Yeah, or something that the connection isnt reconnecting after i said DISCONNECT :/
Check this great little app, it syncs your Outlook accounts when you want and disconnects the data after...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316696
m0nkm0nk said:
Yeah, or something that the connection isnt reconnecting after i said DISCONNECT :/
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Yes, this is the first and I must add the most annoying thing that I've experienced in WM6 (never had this in WM5), especially when you don't have unlimited data plan - that reconnection is just ridiculous.
It actually made me go back to WM5 for a while, until I decided give WM6 another chance. Hopefully I was able pinpoint what make it connect all the time - Windows Live service, specifically Windows Live Messenger. Basically you have to manually logout from the messenger before you close it, otherwise it will just minimize itself when you thought you closed it.
Or just don't use it...
@Sane:
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I don't use Outlook and that app is pretty much useless for me, but sure it might be useful for others.
Speaking of Outlook, is there another good alternative to it which we could use to manage contacts? (not necessarily use it to sync with WM6 contacts directly, but perhaps be able export them to another format that later could be imported in WM6)
I've tryed NSContacts which is pretty good, if you can remmember all the time how to avoid some very nasty bugs in it that could make your 1 hour organizing contact be waste of time and you have to start over.
the best options
bandswitch or commgrpro by dan herrerra.
commmgrpro.com
these are both excellent.
[email protected] said:
I found one for WM5, and not sure if it will work for WM6...
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
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this program is not working on my HTC P3600 with WM6.1...
have someone encountered the same problem?
try reading this : http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/03/19/auto-disconnect-gprs-on-ppc.html