I have seen this question asked several times but I have not be able to find an good answer.
I want to use the WiFi bit of my XDA2s for various things including MSN, what I dont want however is when I walk out of range of the hub is the thing to connect on GPRS and start running up a big usuage bill without my knowledge. I have tried following various instructions but I still get the connecting to GPRS message up.
Is there a way to disable GPRS so it does not even attempt to connect.
TIA
Brynn
I'd also like to know. I know GPRS isn't meant to cost anything unless you actually browse the web etc, but the other day I installed the SPB GPRS monitor and told it that it costs £2.35 per Mb, and noticed that it costs about 30p just to connect! Then another 30p to disconnect! WTF is that about?!?!
Also, it DOES cost just to sit there connected!! Is there some kinda prog sending anonymous usage statistics that I don't know about?
Whilst on the subject, does anyone know if 02 UK have started charging for GPRS yet? I've never had it included in my bill but I've heard they started charging as from the 1st May.. I sure hope not
Cheers -Mike
Disable GPRS
One way is to delete all GPRS-Connections (the most of them are predefined from the provider) under "Settings" -> "Connections".
When the PocketPC has no GPRS-Connection defined it can't dial a GPRS-Connection.
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Well, one's never happy with what he gets. On my PDA2K, I was having to activate GPRS "always on" manually, for example to be on MSN Messenger mobile. Now on my JasJar the UMTS come ON (connected, as in the 2 li'lle arrows...) w/o me asking for it, and also seems to use expensive kbs from my account, apparently with no reason.
I close it off (get the "U" icon) leave it there and it eventually gets connected w/o beeing put to it. Now this is annoying.
I've checked all the installed programs to see if any is set to connect automatically to the Internet (awakening the UMTS). Also checked off the scheduled Activesync to our corporate Exchange... Nada, still gets always on (and spends my KBs).
I could Hard Reset to Factory specs, but before I do (and have to reinstall all) I hope one of yous can illuminate this issue.
Thx in advance, great community I've found here.
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Saar
There must be something trying to access the internet - have you signed out of Pocket MSN by choosing "Switch User" from the Options menu?
CAn it be your outlook, checking fo rnew mail?
Hi all!
I know this has been discussed before, but it has never really been answered or a *working* solution been found to this problem:
I have the Cingular 8525 and my WAN connection (yes, no matter if it's Edge, 3G or HSDPA and no matter if I use isp.cingular or wap.cingular) just seems to die off after the PDA has been sitting for a while in STANDBY.
After seeing how incredibly stable and reliable all the blackberrys work, I still opted for the PDA because I liked the versatility plus the ADVERTISED push capabilities of it.
Apart from non-working tools like "gprs keepalive" etc, how can anyone REALLY PREVENT programs that are running from being stopped? Is there a Reg-Hack for this?
Here's my setup. Fresh blank WM VI Black 2.0 (great imags jas !!) and ONLY VGSMail (for mailpush) and IM+ for yahoo messenger installed. Rest absolutely untouched. Everything works fine as long as the thing is actually ON (display lit up and everything). Once i either wait for the timeout or manually put it in standby by pressing the power button, the Yahoo IM+ will react for another 5 minutes, but VGSmail almost immediately goes deaf. I have a TCP bridge in front of my IMAP server so I can see all in/out traffic to the IMAP by just accepting connections on port 1430 and routing all traffic to 143 while dumping it into a log. I can see the PDA connect the server and go into IDLE. Every time a new message arrives, the PDA is SUPPOSED to get it, but it just doesn't when it's in standby. Completely defeats the whole purpose of it.
Long story short:
HOW do you prevent the connection/radio/windows/software from "silently falling asleep" when the connection should stay open and new messages (email via VGS or IMs via IM+) should be received?
P.s. I already used the included HTweakC to acticate autoconnect and permanent connect. opens up the connection fine after reboot, but that's it!
THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY IMAGE I HAVE TRIED! Original Cingular, Cingular Hacked AKU3.3, Black 1.2 and Black 2.0 :-((
Thanks
Ive had the same issues, my internet connection will just randomly quit on me. One second it will be working the next it will disconnect. Seems to be when I bring it out of standby or get a call. Definitely not as stable as WM5 was.
Radio Version?
Which radio version are you running? I have two things different with my configuration, but I had similar issues with my service (T-Mo USA).
My GPRS connection would hang, even when on the charger (not sleeping).
Turns out a radio update caused the behavior to quit altogether. I could drive completely across town, and have 10-15 new emails in my box, whereas before, I had to either press/hold the disconnect button, or soft reset.
My current versions are in my signature.
Hope this helps.
electron73 said:
Hi all!
I know this has been discussed before, but it has never really been answered or a *working* solution been found to this problem:
I have the Cingular 8525 and my WAN connection (yes, no matter if it's Edge, 3G or HSDPA and no matter if I use isp.cingular or wap.cingular) just seems to die off after the PDA has been sitting for a while in STANDBY.
After seeing how incredibly stable and reliable all the blackberrys work, I still opted for the PDA because I liked the versatility plus the ADVERTISED push capabilities of it.
Apart from non-working tools like "gprs keepalive" etc, how can anyone REALLY PREVENT programs that are running from being stopped? Is there a Reg-Hack for this?
Here's my setup. Fresh blank WM VI Black 2.0 (great imags jas !!) and ONLY VGSMail (for mailpush) and IM+ for yahoo messenger installed. Rest absolutely untouched. Everything works fine as long as the thing is actually ON (display lit up and everything). Once i either wait for the timeout or manually put it in standby by pressing the power button, the Yahoo IM+ will react for another 5 minutes, but VGSmail almost immediately goes deaf. I have a TCP bridge in front of my IMAP server so I can see all in/out traffic to the IMAP by just accepting connections on port 1430 and routing all traffic to 143 while dumping it into a log. I can see the PDA connect the server and go into IDLE. Every time a new message arrives, the PDA is SUPPOSED to get it, but it just doesn't when it's in standby. Completely defeats the whole purpose of it.
Long story short:
HOW do you prevent the connection/radio/windows/software from "silently falling asleep" when the connection should stay open and new messages (email via VGS or IMs via IM+) should be received?
P.s. I already used the included HTweakC to acticate autoconnect and permanent connect. opens up the connection fine after reboot, but that's it!
THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY IMAGE I HAVE TRIED! Original Cingular, Cingular Hacked AKU3.3, Black 1.2 and Black 2.0 :-((
Thanks
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silverfox0214 said:
Which radio version are you running? I have two things different with my configuration, but I had similar issues with my service (T-Mo USA).
My GPRS connection would hang, even when on the charger (not sleeping).
Turns out a radio update caused the behavior to quit altogether. I could drive completely across town, and have 10-15 new emails in my box, whereas before, I had to either press/hold the disconnect button, or soft reset.
My current versions are in my signature.
Hope this helps.
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Yeah, I had radio 1.27.00.00 before, now I have 1.38.30.10
Also I do have newest Hard-SPL 1.40 installed. So I'm pretty much cutting edge here. Howewer, the PROBLEM has been annoying me since WM2003SE.
Is it just the way it is with desktops? Micky Mouse Soft dominates the market, releases one pile of **** after another, never really fixing bugs but introducing new ones by the thousands and we users (who in this case have paid $500 for the device) are left in the dust?
If I just imagine delivering buggy crap like this to MY customers, they would kill me!
Anyone have some good ideas or hacks? I definitely need to get this working at least to a somewhat acceptable level. Since having the Hermes with the first "original" WM5 on it, I got used to rebooting that unreliable Micro$hit every morning when I get up, to make it usually just about last for the day. I'm definitely not willing to reboot every hour !!!
I have this problem
I have this problem however I still receive push email. the most annoying thing is that I cannot keep a data session active with a voice call.
I am on Orange UK network. I use 4smartphone's hosted exchange service. I get directpush working 24/7 with Black 2.0 OS. I also receive my pop email whilst on voicecalls.
So its not a WM6 issue. Its either your network or your connection settings.
I must say that it actually improved a lot since installing Black 2.0. However, the connection still silently dies off eventually. I now have a makeshift solution using FlexMail, set to poll emails every 15 min. So what happens is as long as the PDA is ON, I get immediate PUSH mail. Once I put it in standby, it continues to work for a minute or two, then the connection ****s up. Every 15 min Flexmail wakes up and polls for emails, which most of the times seems to work as I can see in my logfile that every 15 min the tcp connection opens up and the server dumps all new mails over to the phone. It then enters IDLE and at some point dies away with "recv(): connection timed out".
So it's all pretty messy still and I'm wondering what you can do to PREVENT the line from silently dying in the first place. Tried tools like GPRS Keepalive with no luck, since the whole program stops being executed in standby and hence it can not keep the connection up = useless. I need some hack/tool/program that stays active during standby! Then I could just have it ping my mailserver once per minute to keep the connection open.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
Could my problem be related? - see my post under Treo 750:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324495
I am testing to see if I get the same behaviour with 3G/UMTS as I do with GPRS....
Before you go on to post "read the wiki" ,"search the thread noob" etcetc
Ive done that and i found no help for it other than some settings, which i already tried(didnt work) and ive gotten more settings from the fido csr
and ive plugged those in but still no.(tested gprs/edge by starting pocket IE)
no connection.
I've gotten the value pack for fido which includes the Instant messaging portal for msn and yahoo where i can chat and message and check email unlimited... now the only problem is i cant connect to gprs/edge to use it.
question 1. how do i get the dam settings to work?
question 2. am i able to use the messenger included in the rom? or do i need to use the one specifically for fido?
question 3. once the previous 2 are answered..... Am I able to make it where only the associated program uses gprs/edge for data..so that way if i use pocket ie on wifi i can still use watever im using with gprs?
ie: surf the net on wifi, while im chatting msn on gprs?
thats all i got for now,
I'm using a softbank x01ht with black majik rom.
Thanks for any help i receive.
When I first got a windows phone I was so determined to get it set for Fido's services. With my Universal it took me days to figure out what the settings were. I thought I knew everything after that. Turns out that there are a bunch of other factors such as MMS won't work until you've exchanged msg's with another FIDO customer. Also internet doesnt work without a proper plan first, it doesnt work like it used to , which was PAYG. Lastly the settings don't kick in until you reset the phone, and even then I have heard stories from some where it took upto half hour for some settings to kick in. I find it so complicated now that I seem to know where all the free wi-fi hotspots are around my area.
I hope this doesn't discourage you from figuring out ur settings through trial&error.
I encounter none of what you said. I dont use MMS so I am not familiar with ..all others is no big deal.
It takes me 30 seconds for set up and I am ready to go.
ps: I am on a unlimited for years.....
Well I guess it mustve been different with the Universal and your Hermes.
thanks for the feedback still havent figured it out as of yet though i do know theres supposed to be a dial out to *90# or something like that cant check the txt i received from fido right now.
anyways i hope to get it up soon, im gonna try to port over the IM program thats in my friends rogers tytn and see if i can change the settings on that thing for fido.
wish me luck
They toys bahave different
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Well I guess it mustve been different with the Universal and your Hermes.
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You bet money on it. I have an 8125 and also an 8525, both have exactly the same UI to set the connections up, however with exactly the same settings I´m able to surf the WEB, get GMail, all MSN Live services,etc only with my Wizard because with the Hermes I´m able to open just a very few wap sites. I´ve had this problem since day one with my Hermes and looking for a solution in this site and in many others I´ve found that I´m not the only lucky person with a $400 toy that performs worst than the cheapest Nokia, there´s a lot of people with same problem and nobody knows why this happens. (See my signature)
For those who've got it working, could you please share HOW? It would be much appreciated.
Hi all,
has anyone else had their Orbit auto connect to GPRS? Mine was sitting on the desk beside me and just started to connect itself. According to the gprs monitor it then downloaded about 200kb of data. I had no software running in the background. The only software beyond the standard o2 stuff that is installed is CoPilot and Destinator, neither of which were running at the time.
Anyone any idea? I called O2 and put a block on GPRS until i know what's happening, but then that leaves me with the no net access over the phone. But with data costing £3/MB I don't want to risk a huge bill for no reason..
Wasn't quickgps downloading new GPS data was it? If you have autodownload set when data expires, that'll download something every 3 days.
Pretty sure it wasn't quickgps
I have that set up to download over activesync and my last sync was only last night. Besides, any time the gps info ran out before I was warned before the connection and could cancel it, this time the Orbit just went right on and connected. Most strange.
If only O2 would do a version of Web n Walk then I just wouldn't care!
Just had a thought
Since it's a feature I've never used, on any phone, a thought just struck me; does the device make a gprs connection to O2 Active to receive a MMS? I looked at the GPRS log and it's all received data; nothing was sent..
MMS
Yes MMS is transferred over O2 Active/O2 WAP.
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Yes MMS is transferred over O2 Active/O2 WAP.
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I use this app called Nodata...Turns off the GPRS so no accidental access and big ££££ (or €€€€)
Here's the link http://www.modaco.com/FREE-Utility-t246171.html
Thanks everyone
Thanks for the help everyone - I checked with my friends and it turns out that someone was trying to send me an MMS, so problem solved! I'll install nodata all the same though!
i am with orange UK and get unlimited internet access in evenings and weekends, then its about £3 per megabyte during the day unless i ask them to do a £1 for the whoile day access deal (have to ring each day to add to account, happy to use in evenings when free for quick things.)
How do i set this up i nspb wireless to monitor any access during the day and alert me (incase something access, or gets left on)
thank you
you would visit the spb club, http://www.spbclub.com/forum/, and post the question there. The host may help you
How about 500MB/month for £5?
I would ring and speak to Orange and try and get them to adopt you on their 500MB/month plan for £5...
If you’re using the latest version, under connections and tariffs you can select the internet and select network. My phone then connected to the network and downloaded the available tariffs (my tariff was so new at the time that it was not listed on the net but Spb had it listed), just select and it will set its self up.
Once your correct tariff is selected the tab above connections & tariffs lets you set the alarms for that tariff (on a monthly package anyway) hope this helps
gisbourne,m i dont use the net enough during the day to warrant spending another £5 on the bill. in the evenings and weekends is quite fine for me, but i would like to monitor any access during the day - emails etc.
i will try checking for updated tariffs. thanks
oh ****, I see everyday how extremely expensive Germany is!! I pay for 200MB 10€!!! Im sooo pissed off.... anyway btt, I have a question, too. I flash my blackstone about 3 times a week normally and my problem is that I lose everytime the connections in spb. can I save the results in one way, so that I can start with my newly flashed (hard reset, whatever) hd from the last point on? I search some file like .dll or .xml or whatever, I dont know.. Cause somewhere has to be my data saved, shouldn't it? And I dont think that the HTML would help me, cause I dont know where to put it after flashing.. Can someone help me?
many greets, cad^^
cadenza said:
oh ****, I see everyday how extremely expensive Germany is!! I pay for 200MB 10€!!! Im sooo pissed off.... anyway btt, I have a question, too. I flash my blackstone about 3 times a week normally and my problem is that I lose everytime the connections in spb. can I save the results in one way, so that I can start with my newly flashed (hard reset, whatever) hd from the last point on? I search some file like .dll or .xml or whatever, I dont know.. Cause somewhere has to be my data saved, shouldn't it? And I dont think that the HTML would help me, cause I dont know where to put it after flashing.. Can someone help me?
many greets, cad^^
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just backup the Folder "SPB Wireless Monitor" in "Application Data"
I use PIMBackup for this.
Then i made a Backup of the following Parts in Registry:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{DD9B73F6-9EED-4ED0-84CF-422AF83512DB}]
(your Registration)
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Spb Software House\Spb Wireless Monitor]
(your Settings)