Hello All, excuse me for repeating probably something already stated (I did check the forums out)
Ive just got a HTS universal and have many years experience with both this forum and HTC devices.
I have looked through your great guides on CID Unlocking so I can put a new WM6 rom on my device, but it seems like a nightmare ! G3 / G4 device, may brick it if you do someting wrong ? download and install 2 ROMS and then 17 instructions? just before I go through all that (which I read on the WIKI. Can you confirm there is no easier way to put custom ROMS on the device? I have not had to do this with previous devices thanks to POF's tutorials and scripts.... SPV / XDA's I have owned.
Any help would be most appreciated even it is your a NOOB!
Cheers all the best James
hello, i am kinda new to this scene, but i mean no harm
I don't know everything but am eager to learn.
so i gonna ask some newbee questions and maybe i didn't read everything but hell, there is no harm asking
i just bought the diamond (in the dutch language, i've seen a couple more dutch ppl so if there is some one that knows alot, please add me @ msn : Deleted for Users Privacy You don't know Which Creep will add you, Use the Safe PM Method)
now i have some questions
- how can i extract my current rom? and can i use that extracted rom as a backup when i accidentily flash the wrong rom, or just want to have it back to the old way
- what is hard spl, i know it has something to do with the signing of other roms than the original rom, what are the dangers about flashing the spl, can it do any harm to my diamond? and can i go back to the original settings (and also, how about warranty?)
- before i had the Diamond, i had the Herald (P4350) and i bricked it twice, can this also happen with the diamond? or isn't that possible couze the SPL can be flashed (it wasn't possible with my p4350, thats why it was bricked )
i ask this questions becouse i want to get the maximum from my diamond, but i also have a contract on my provider and can't get a new phone in 2 years, don't want to waste my diamond on a stupid accident
if you think i am a noob, i am. but don't reply if you don't have any thing intresting to tell.
please don't tell me to use the search, becouse there are verry much topics and i can't get an hold of it, that's why i am asking it here.
Thank you verry much,
regards,
Sam
Im not ENORMOUSLY qualified to answer the SPL questions in depth but the General purpose of using HardSPL is that your device is freed up to use ANY ROM you wish (it has to be a diamond rom though). Hence your device is not limited to ROMs by your carrier:
Originally if you bought a Tmobile handset it is usually CID locked to only allow tmobile ROMS, with HArdSPL it allows any diamond ROM, so you could use on by HTC...or a cooked ROM found on this forum!
Also HardSPL has had a tradition of safeguarding against some of the types of brick possible, this may be the case with the version for the diamond but id probably let cmonex or olipro comment on that as im not too sure.
By adding the signing of ROMS and radios etc...this has removed the possibility of ROMs being flashed which are known to brick devices, wether it is intentional or just an accident by a ROM chef. Only allowing signed images to be flashed makes it alot safer for the majority of users.
Just a note: I would not advise to post your e-mail in a public forum, unless you dig spam.
chribruu said:
Just a note: I would not advise to post your e-mail in a public forum, unless you dig spam.
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yeah i know, but hell, it's only my gmail accout. got a lots of those
Maybe that is his allowed to have spam address
Anyway these questions are the same resting on my shoulders .... sadly my thread got closed.
All we want to know is how we .... backup the ROM before flashing and restoring it.
I figured the phone consists of the following:
IPL (Initial Program Loader) ... this is like a BIOS for your phone.
SPL (Secondary Program Loader) ... this will boot the actual OS.
ROM ... this is the part where WM61 etc all is?
Ext_ROM ... this is the part where HTC has put all its customizations like TF3D?
So when we use this HardSPL, we only flash the SPL ... ROM stays intact? And how do we make a backup of all this?
Also why is a hard-reset needed if only the SPL is being flashed? It would just startup and boot your ROM, or am I mistaken?
Maybe once Ive gained more knowledge about these nifty phones, I can contribute to the community too like you all do. Maybe I'll just start a "Total noob guide to the HTC Diamond" ... all I need is a start, I want to flash this thing ASAP .... but I first want to get a few simple answers which arent 100% answered by the wiki or forums (mainly how to backup ROM, radio etc etc etc BEFORE flashing).
Meh my posts tend to get longer than expected on new forums
@sfjuocekr:
- Diamond does not have an extrom.
- read kaiser/polaris/niki/etc.. (msm7xxx devices) forums and wiki, 95% of what is said there applies for the diamond too. Apply common sense to decide what is device specific or not.
Hope that serves you as a start, for example, to answer your question about rom dumping, compare these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
And apply common sense, so you'll se it's the same for diamond.
sfjuocekr said:
Maybe that is his allowed to have spam address
I figured the phone consists of the following:
IPL (Initial Program Loader) ... this is like a BIOS for your phone.
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no IPL for diamond, the radio bootloader does that job.
the rest was said by pof very nicely
btw note: when you try to apply shift/kaiser commands to dump the rom, make sure you change the sizes in the commands, to match the pdocread -l info.
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Originally if you bought a Tmobile handset it is usually CID locked to only allow tmobile ROMS, with HArdSPL it allows any diamond ROM, so you could use on by HTC...or a cooked ROM found on this forum!
Also HardSPL has had a tradition of safeguarding against some of the types of brick possible, this may be the case with the version for the diamond but id probably let cmonex or olipro comment on that as im not too sure.
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Does this mean that HardSPL is not necessary (but advisable) if your device is not CID locked to any carrier but bought directly from HTC?
Apologies for the next noob question...
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Does this mean that HardSPL is not necessary (but advisable) if your device is not CID locked to any carrier but bought directly from HTC?
Apologies for the next noob question...
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HTC devices are still CID locked....to HTC ROMs, no device you can buy is SuperCID afaik.
pof said:
@sfjuocekr:
- Diamond does not have an extrom.
- read kaiser/polaris/niki/etc.. (msm7xxx devices) forums and wiki, 95% of what is said there applies for the diamond too. Apply common sense to decide what is device specific or not.
Hope that serves you as a start, for example, to answer your question about rom dumping, compare these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
And apply common sense, so you'll se it's the same for diamond.
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This is the reply on which Ive been waiting
As soon as I'm home Ill read more about it and maybe post my finding is a uniform Diamond thread ...
Also the sketch from the layout ... I made up from information I found all over the forums and wiki, I do apply common sense but I still have limited knowhow about how these phones work.
Anyway thanks alot, Ill be trying to backup my phone asap when I arrive home from work (I work for Tele2/Versatel ... dont be scared I wont do any harm )
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HTC devices are still CID locked....to HTC ROMs, no device you can buy is SuperCID afaik.
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Got you...
Seems, after reading while working, these dumps are not the biggest helpers. As in we can't yet use them to rebuild the original ROM? I might have overlooked something, will investigate further this evening after work.
My question now still is, does this also update radio and SPL?
So the HTC Diamond basicly consists of a radio ROM, then the SPL and then goes into HTC ROM with WM61 etc ...?
So upgrading to HardSPL ... doesnt touch your current ROM and allows it to boot into it fine or does it need to be signed? Why is the hardreset needed then?
Anyway Im probably asking the same questions found on other parts of the forum, sorry for that if it annoys people around here. I just want to get started with a full backup, that is restorable ... as in that I can restore my phone to factory defaults ... if needed
I have alot of coding and hardware experience, which might help the community some day when I gain more knowledge. My age was the homemade EEPROM programmers and big ZIF-sockets business, you probably know what Im aiming for
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I just want to get started with a full backup, that is restorable ... as in that I can restore my phone to factory defaults ... if needed
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I second that. Is there a way to do a full backup and restore to factory defaults after using hardspl and cooked roms?
SPL: you can take it from an official rom (nbhextract), if its the same version that you have, or you can dump it from the device before HardSPL'ing it. (see one of the previous threads I linked on how to pmemdump the SPL).
Radio:you can take it from an official rom (nbhextract), if its the same version that you have.
OS: Search how to reconstruct a dumped ROM, again, apply common sense
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Why is the hardreset needed then?
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that's just standard RUU procedure. you can hack the RUU exe to not send task 28 to cause the SPL to hard reset.
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you can hack the RUU exe to not send task 28 to cause the SPL to hard reset.
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I guess that you will do that soon too, right?
Perfect job you guys!!!
I tried downloading the newest HTC ROM update---says my device is not supported for this update. ???????
I downloaded the file using a provided serial in another thread for the WWE version.
Can I use this file to flash my rom????
My diamond is an UNBRANDED and UNLOCKED version. I assume its a UK or US version. I use it with my ATT&T sim card.
It's a 1.93.422.4 WWE currently...
Any reason this 2.03 rom WONT work for me?
Can I use it?
I started the flash process just to see if it would give me an error or incompatible message and it did not. It was ready to install.
Any thoughts?
thanks
Man,
You really need to read the wiki and this thread.
Not meaning to sound rude - but your questions are answered thoroughly, providing the information you need to understand before flashing your device.
wow man, that was SO INSIGHTFUL.... thanks
I have flashed MANY phones, many times. I am very aware of how to do it and Yes I have read that page.
I am just trying to see IF ANYONE KNEW offhand if that new WWE ROM would work over my existing ROM without bricking it.
but thanks
If you got it off the Diamond page and know it's a Diamond ROM for sure, then you can flash it. If you don't know where you go it or have no idea for which device it came for, it has to be ported.
Thread closed.
Hi there
I've buyed a Diamond locked by orange. Now I like to unlock it and install a custom rom.
I was going through the forum but I found too much and different articels that I decided to create a new thread.
So the question is:
What do I have to do to get my sim-locked phone ready for flashing a custom rom?
Thanks for the answers.
Soulmaster said:
Hi there
I've buyed a Diamond locked by orange. Now I like to unlock it and install a custom rom.
I was going through the forum but I found too much and different articels that I decided to create a new thread.
So the question is:
What do I have to do to get my sim-locked phone ready for flashing a custom rom?
Thanks for the answers.
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You DO NOT need to SIM unlock your phone to use a custom ROM.
You DO need to install HardSPL to your phone before you can use custom ROM, you only need to HardSPL once.
There is much information in the sticks posts at the top of the ROM section that will tell all you need to know about HardSPL and ROM flashing.
welcome to XDA
Thanks! this has just helped me aswell
good luck with journey to worl of rom`s
Here's additional NOOP question. Do you need to CID unlock the Diamond AND HardSPL to use cooked ROM's? Or is HardSPL enough?
Thanks!
Morpheus_Elsloo said:
Here's additional NOOP question. Do you need to CID unlock the Diamond AND HardSPL to use cooked ROM's? Or is HardSPL enough?
Thanks!
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If you mean, do you have to change the CID, the answer is no as HardSPL means that CID is not checked.
Verizon Rhodium "newbie" quesiton please help (unlocking). I have unlocked the SIM
Sorry if my question is too stupid but here it is:
I own a verizon branded HTC touch pro 2. (Rhodium) I ask verizon for the sim unlock code and they provide me with one. Im now able to put in my at&t card and use it, it works..
My question is: does this mean my phone is fully unlocked?.
can I know install all this great roms I see around, worry free?
or is there something else that has to be done in order to install the cooked roms.
if can install the roms and you can provide me with first time steps as well it would be greatly appriciated.
I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure unlocking the SIM is separate from unlocking the phone (HardSPL and allowing unsigned firmware).
if this is correct could someone please explain or post a link as to what HardSPL is . and perhaps where there is a step by step guide on what I need to do in order to install roms
thanks a bunch.
I don't think there's a HardSPL for CDMA phones yet (don't hold me to that), but the ROM development sub-forum is where you want to go. Read the stickies there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
HardSPL for CDMA (Verizon, Sprint) is not out yet.
You can not flash ROMs at this time. Well, you can try... and end up with a bricked phone, but that's totally your call.
thanks everyone.