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i'm looking a rom to replace the official wm6 one.
since this i s the first time i'm doing such thing i'd like to recieve some help.
which rom should i choose?
there are many and the list of features is long and hard to compare between each other, any hint on how to choose and what to look for are well accepted.
thank you.
Lyllo,
Hello and welcome. There must be a thousand threads on here askng the same question.
I suggest you do one of several things:
- Search for each thread asking this question and see what responses were given:
- Look through the threads on here for each rom and from the discussion decide which is best for you (recommended option)
- Choose a number of roms at random, flash them, and see what you think.
I would personally sit down and decide what you are looking for in a rom, eg, speed, stability, speed (don't care about stability), stability (don't care about speed), feature rich versus feature lite, etc.
Once you have done this then go to option 2 above and see what fits. Next read mrvax guides THOROUGHLY (see here...http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/) BEFORE you jump in.
Also it is esential that you read the wiki (see here...http://wiki.xda-developers.com/) BEFORE you jump in.
If you want to change roms safely there is no short cut to assimilating knowledge, understanding thoroughly, then implementing.
Good luck and don't forget to backup your data before you start.
WB
can i go on asking some few things here?
1) wondering what's the difference between Black version and other ones.
2) i've noticed that most of the last releases basically give the same pack of cabs, so which are the parameters to distingush between them? they always define them quite stable, so cant find a way to choose
i'd prefer some more stability in order to have a fully and costant working device, but some speed would be nice.
found the schap's one but can't uderstand if it would be worthy to do an upgrade or not.
basically on this forum i've found that is always worthy...
4) what does at&t means? what has it for?
5) what's about the "big storage"?
thank you and hope i've been quite clear pls excuseme for my english ^^
thanks 4 your attention
lyllo said:
can i go on asking some few things here?
1) wondering what's the difference between Black version and other ones.
2) i've noticed that most of the last releases basically give the same pack of cabs, so which are the parameters to distingush between them? they always define them quite stable, so cant find a way to choose
i'd prefer some more stability in order to have a fully and costant working device, but some speed would be nice.
found the schap's one but can't uderstand if it would be worthy to do an upgrade or not.
basically on this forum i've found that is always worthy...
4) what does at&t means? what has it for?
5) what's about the "big storage"?
thank you and hope i've been quite clear pls excuseme for my english ^^
thanks 4 your attention
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Ok dude.....heres ur answers (please note mrvanx has about 3 bottles of merlot in him to cloud his judgement)
1) Black set the standard for ROMs, however the base ROM has evolved a fair bit since the last version of WM6 black (WM6 Black X).......Right now i recommend doing some reading about Pandora Naked 6....and customizing it for your own needs ;-)
2) Speed/Stability are relative to what you have installed....see 1)
3) Schaps ROMs are a VERY good place to start, however if you wish to truely taylor your device you should read into cooking your own ROM.
4) AT&T is a US based betwork......ignore it unless you are in the US
5) Big storage means the ROM has some optimisation added to the IMGFS file system so the storage space on the device is freed up for you to use, in some cases you could see a storage capacity of 80MB or maybe more!!?
...............finally.....
...INSTALL HARDSPL BEFORE DOING ANYTHING!!!!! good luck. ;-)
thank you ver much ^ì
extremely clear for 3 bottles of merlot, Vanx.. I'm very impressed
Lyllo, I'd say, first of all, install HardSPL like Vanx said
Next, I would advise you to try out some ROMs. The Black is very complete, there are some others who are very good. I personally use Schap's 4.22 and I like it alot (eagerly waiting for 4.30, hint hint Schap ) If you follow the proper procedure, flashing usually is a piece of cake and within 15 minutes you're up and running again.
You can only really know which ROM you like by trying them out for a couple of days. I tried Black and I switched to Schap cos I like it better but it's very personal.
Also, I suggest you take a look at your Radio ROM too. This isn't customised but it highly influences the performance of your Hermes, i.e. how long your battery lasts, how quick you get a link to the internet, how well bluetooth performs and so on. Read the threads on the various versions and pick the one that seems best for you and just give it a go for a couple of days.
After a while you will find your ideal combination. And that will be the best for you.
Shamanix 2.2
If you are not in to Internet Sharing, I would recommend you try Shamanix 2.2. No bugs. Its fast and stable.
I would recommend to give one of Edhaas's Roms a try, they are very fast AND stable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320010
thanks to everybody guys.
i'll look around, even if i'm thinkig about waiting for android to give it a try.
these ROMs are wm6 the same, keeping all the M$ defects...
lyllo said:
thanks to everybody guys.
i'll look around, even if i'm thinkig about waiting for android to give it a try.
these ROMs are wm6 the same, keeping all the M$ defects...
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Yeah, thats right.
BUT:
At home I'm using Linux on my desktop system, my previous mobile phone has a Symbian OS. In the last 25 years I was using computers with C64 OS, Amiga OS, MSDos, DR DOS. None of all these operating systems was completely bugfree. Android is based on Linux and much more important: its developed by humans. So again it will have failures
The point is to create a Rom which handles all the given defects in a useful way. And I think some of the Rom devs here did a very good job.
the more static and simple an os is the more stable
the more cutting edge user costimizable and featurefull and advanced an os is the more places bugs and unablity to test all senarios play it's part
thak you guys.
let me just explain deeper that i'm talking about defects, not bugs.
it's quite obvious that human can do some mistake that reflects into bugs, i'm not complaining about that
i was just complainig the way wm6 is designed
anyway, i guess i'll have to wait for android or an iphone surrogate
by now i think i'll at least upgrade the rom from the official to a better in performance one.
there's only one matter, i've just found Schaps' 3.54 one in italian, can you tell me where can i find a list of localized rom in order to choose something newer?
i'd like to scratch as less as possible my ppc, so a full rom, with a sotisfactory set of program would be better.
thank you.
My first question would be are you sure you are using a Hermes/Tytn 1?
You said you were new to all this and asked which ROM you should change to from your stock/official WM6 ROM.
Not many Hermes/Tytn 1's are available with WM6 on them as standard. So just double check you have the phone that is being discussed in this particular sub-forum as if you use the wrong image on the wrong device it can cause big, non-correctable (aka permanent) errors.
At the risk of blowing my own horn, If you are new to this and would like a good start, try my ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355439
This will:
1) Updates your Radio ROM to the latest version - which many people find performs better (although there are apparently some issues with AT&T network - but as you're not in the US, that doesn't matter here).
2) Give you a featureset similar to what the phone manufacturer would have - including Office 2007, a voice command/dialer application, and the latest Windows Live.
3) Gives you the option to uninstall Office 2007, voice command software and Windows live if you don't want them.
4) Will work with pretty much any network due to the inclusion of the HTC network wizard which sets up your mobile for almost every network worldwide - just pick where you are.
5) Gives you about 54Mb of free storage BEFORE you uninstall any addon applications.
This will give you a solid base to starting to flash your device etc too - which is great
thank you guys.
i'm on a tytn II, not on I, my mystake, i guess i'm a wizard not hermes isn't it
i'll take a look.
this forum is really great, never found so many considerate and patient guys!
thank you very much to every one.
lyllo said:
thank you guys.
i'm on a tytn II, not on I, my mystake, i guess i'm a wizard not hermes isn't it
i'll take a look.
this forum is really great, never found so many considerate and patient guys!
thank you very much to every one.
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TyTN II is a Kaiser NOT a wizard. Do not flash a Wizard ROM!! ^_^
Hello all,
I'm new to this forum but have been playing at similar forums. It started with wanting to try every program I could find and lead to wanting to get WM6.1 on my Touch. I couldn't find one so I made one. It is my first attempt at anything of this magnitude. Anyway, I succeeded in Changing the splash screen and adding a few OEMs (sipChanger, Touchpal and a few others that may or may not stay.) I needed my Touch to stay fairly stock as I work for an Alltel Agent and need to demo my phone to customers. So all the stock software is still in my ROM. I posted it on ppcgeeks and ppcwarez but haven't had much response. I haven't had too many problems (a few quirks when switching programs but nothing major.)
Is there anyone out there that would be interested in this? I want to do some more modifications but if it's only for myself I will probably take my time.
Also I do have some questions, so if you are interested and want me to continue I would probably need some help.
Here is the link: http://rapidshare.com/files/102675408/plckc_signed.rar
I would up it to the ftp but I get more stupid as the day progresses and its already pretty late.
I started work on it tonight
This sounds like just what I've been looking for, but I'm not technical enough to be of much help. I'm downloading it now to give it a try.
help
how do i install wm6.1
Seen your rom on ppcgeeks, flashed it, and was for the most part happy. In the touchflo cube, the pictures and videos bring up a black screen i belive. love the wm6.1 though. I have since flashed back to the newest OEM Alltel, as I too am an Alltel Agent. When I get some time, I will flash back to yours and report on a couple of things that could improve it, as this is the only other Alltel rom i'd use besides the stock one. Also, does the rev a, and gps work well with it? Didn't have it on my device long enough to play around with it that much.
also would like to know about 6.1 for alltel touch
still pretty new to flashing roms and so on but have been doing some reading and getting close to trying something new. also looking for more reading, specifically related to alltel version please post links if you have them. main goal is to unlock gps and have fun learning about things. thanks
Please pardon my ignorance. I have tried to work out what is going on here for the last couple of months, hoping that it would finally just click. could someone please explain to me what all these ROM's are. So I have an HTC touch diamond with the standard ROM (from the last update, i think 1.9xxxxxx cant remember). With all these 'ROM' developments what more do you get out of the phone. Do you guys still use the TouchFlo 3D? What is HARD-spl? Is it worth changing the ROM? There seems to be a lot of ROM's, how do i know which is the best 1 to use? I feel like i have so many more questions, but please could someone just outline what it is all about.
please excuse my ignorance. I have tried looking it up but i still dont understand so pardon me for taking shortcuts.
Thanks
Tony
All the wisdom of the world in a single link: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is as old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard spl is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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i don't see how pointing him ti the wiki will answer any of his questions. that thing is old as the diamond itself.
ROMs are the data image on your phone. the read only memory that includes sys, xip, wm6.1 and tf3d plus all the component packages in a ppc. all the ones floating around here are tweaked and updated by people to work the way they want them to, with suggestions by the testers.
they are all basically the same.
they are based on official htc releases and updated to the latest operating bits from other devices, then shared with us.
its up to you to find what works best on your device in your locale and for your specific needs. you don't have to read entire threads, just the last few pages or from the date that the latest one was released by that cook.
hard slp is a phone condom to keep people from bricking their phone. it is required and very important. i suggest developers edition so you can flash any rom you want.
and yes, flashing a cooked rom is very worth it, but i warn you, once you start you can't stop.
i can't tell you which is the best, i do know what are my favorites, but the journey you will take finding that perfect rom is very rewarding.
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thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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Everything in the Device is erased when you flash a ROM. Stuff in the Internal Storage stays the same.
By da way you can also flash Radios.
Greets.
have a look here as this helped me alot
[TUT]Complete upgrading guide (HardSPL+Radio+ROM) NOT FOR CDMA USERS!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
tonypony said:
thank you very much
you have answered exactly what i wanted to know.
I'll give it a look into. Oh, and 1 other thing. If I have applications installed on my phone already, i presume after putting a 'cooked ROM' on it will remove all installed applications? Wouldnt bother me too much, just my TomTom navigation is a HUGE mission to get going. I suppose im on holiday and have time to fiddle.
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pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
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pretty much all apps for ppc can be found in .cab form. this is for easy installation and removal. if you choose a full rom you will get all stock htc apps, but a lite rom is bare bones. keep your collection of cabs on your internal storage for quick re-installation after flashing. also keep a backup of your cabs on your pc.
glad this helps
i didn't want anyone here to tell you RTFM or link you to search page. THAT REALLY GRINDS MY GEARS. ha lol
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ya i can relate to that. Im also quite a forum junkie and I cant stand it when people direct me to search engines. Even on my local PS3 forum people always help out. Thanks to all for your help. Much appreciated.
So if I want to flash a ROM on my phone I just have to sift through the 1's here that are available. Do you guys recommend any? ie. one's that have few problems.
Typically the rom you get with the phone is a generic one, not too fast, full of feature and there to please everybody.
A cooked rom normally strips things down or tunes the device to a specific need. some roms remove as much as they can to give you more ram. Great for those of us who browse the web.
Others load them with more features so you never want for anything.
Others are generic but more upto date. The problem with official roms is they are updated and then go into testing for months and months then get released.
a custom rom will take updated drivers from other devices (like the HD) and place them into our roms with around a weeks testing or less. so we get them sooner. This does have its drawbacks.
A custom rom can be less stable than an official one. but you can get lucky. Duttys 3.6b is a good mix. Its faster than the stock rom, has more features but more memory as the rubbish is removed.
In the past 2 days I have learnt how to cook my own rom, which is the dream situation. I get rid of everything I dont want like Cyberon, transcriber, ringtones and other stuff. SO I have loads of storage free but also add in the software I use the most.
I now have the fastest rom I have ever used and its perfect beacause its tailor made by me, for me. Its really not that hard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
OK, I am new here and have done a lot of reading. Apparently me and about 3 other guys are the only ones that have USCC, not a lot out there for us. NFSFAN, you have mentioned that you might be able to whip us up something if there were more, that would be great. I do have a number of specific questions and I'd love all the great input that everyone has.
1. 6.5 or Android? (yes I know it is all personal taste)
2. My touch does not have GPS enabled from USCC. If I unlock the phone do I use .41 or 2.31? Yes I want GPS and would find a ROM with it and is that why I would choose one or the other?
3. My Radio is 3.42.30, do I need to upgrade to 3.42.50 for GPS or just to upgrade to 6.5? and where do I find that radio?
4. Am I asking to basic of questions yet?
5. How do I get Adobe Flash Player loaded/upgraded?
6. Is there a good .cab website out there for games/apps?
7. Can I have my cake and eat it too?
Nah j/k but I know my phone is capable of so much more than I am using it for now and want to take advantage of it. I really appreciate all the help and suggestions.
Thanks
HTC Touch Vogue 6900
3.01.573.4
3.42.30
Have you look over at PPC Geek's at all? There is a lot more CDMa info there.
Ok, I kinda thought this was the forum for CDMA, aka my USCC VOGUE phone. I have looked on ppc and am going to repost this question there. I saw the wealth of knowledge here and thought I could get some help....
spittinfly said:
Ok, I kinda thought this was the forum for CDMA, aka my USCC VOGUE phone. I have looked on ppc and am going to repost this question there. I saw the wealth of knowledge here and thought I could get some help....
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This particular forum is for the CDMA Vogue but this site is geared more toward GSM devices. There doesn't seem to be a big US Cellular following on here.
gps on uscc
i have my gps working. cokeman 2.31 unlocker and a omj.3.09.01custom rom. works great
gps on uscc
i have my gps working. cokeman 2.31 unlocker and a omj.3.09.01custom rom. works great
Well seeing as no one actually answered your post ... here goes
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1. 6.5 or Android? (yes I know it is all personal taste)
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Yes it is a personal choice, nice thing about Android is that it is a Linux shell - rebooting the phone brings you back to WinMO so really it can be best of both worlds just be prepared for some work in using Android and remembering steps before starting it like, Starting IE/Opera before starting Android to make sure you have Internet within Android (at least when I was using it a few months back)
spittinfly said:
2. My touch does not have GPS enabled from USCC. If I unlock the phone do I use .41 or 2.31? Yes I want GPS and would find a ROM with it and is that why I would choose one or the other?
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You would use 2.31 unlocker and from there flash to a custom ROM - try a Generic ROM either 6.1 or WinMO6.5 might be able to utilize GPS if your connecting via generic or seek out some other USCC users in threads, I know some are using 6.5 currently and able to work fairly well
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3. My Radio is 3.42.30, do I need to upgrade to 3.42.50 for GPS or just to upgrade to 6.5? and where do I find that radio?
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No, 3.42.30 is fine, you wont see a difference with 3.42.50 worth it plus it can cause some issues more than positives so stay to the basics
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4. Am I asking to basic of questions yet?
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No, can you be more simplistic in them LOL j/k
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5. How do I get Adobe Flash Player loaded/upgraded?
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Depends on the ROM used as well as the Browser (IE or Opera) there is some reports of IE Mobile 8 or something like that working but flaky
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6. Is there a good .cab website out there for games/apps?
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Search the forums both here at VDA as well as PPCGeeks you will see links to personal cab repositories that will contain some for ya
spittinfly said:
7. Can I have my cake and eat it too?
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Of course you can, but the actual saying is "can I eat my cake and have it too" in reference to the days of Marie Antoinette and the famous line of "let them eat cake" the idea is to be able to eat your cake AND have it, which of course would be impossible as would the situation a person in reference to the saying would be wanting as well
Hope that helps
Detroit Doug
Thanks Doug I had almost given up hope on this thread. I have been on PPC Geeks and am just about to take the plunge. Thanks for all the advice and I see the logic in the actual "eat / have it" order, very interesting and educational. Thanks again and I will try to update after I upgrade.
spittinfly, in your reading have you found the settings you need with QPST to make your GPS work with USCellular? Also, the instructions that get you into the diagnostic mode with other carriers do not work with USCellular. I had to do a lot of reading myself, and piece together information from several different threads to make it work. With the same radio you have I can lock in from 6 to 11 satellites. If you have found all this information I won't bother typing it all in, but if you need it let me know.
Personally, I've tried a couple of different ROMs, but I'm currently just running the USCellular WM6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell 2.1.5, while I'm anxiously awaiting Shell 3.
Well I am not familiar w/ SPB but I did go on ppcgeeks and searching for "uscc 6900" found what appears to be a good option for me. Would someone mind checking it out?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53675&highlight=uscc+6900.
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Well I am not familiar w/ SPB but I did go on ppcgeeks and searching for "uscc 6900" found what appears to be a good option for me. Would someone mind checking it out?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53675&highlight=uscc+6900.
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SPB is a set of applications for use ON your phone (SPB Backup, SPB Keyboard, ETC) SPB is the company name followed by what the app is
As far as the thread, Im hoping and assuming you are referring to NFSFAN 6.5 V6R2 Generic Carrier ROM ... I only ask as I am not going to read through 8 pages of replies to find what your referring to
If it is regarding NFSFAN and the ROM he has to offer, then yes I would suggest trying it, its the ROM I use on my HTC Vogue (Touch) and its been stable, fast and reliable
Detroit Doug
Is there a way to "turn on" the GPS (unlocker first, I understand this) WITHOUT changing the ROM?
I very much enjoy my current setup with ONE exception: no GPS.
I've read a little about QPST and have tried a version of it (its been quite a while) but it doesn't seem to recognize my 6900...
so... basically... 2 questions: 1. can I turn on GPS using only a settings change in QPST, and if so, 2. what version of QPST do I need to do so?
FYI, USCC 6900 6.1 Radio 3.42.30 ROM 3.01.573.4
Thanks in advance
Hi guys,
I have recently just purchased AT&T Tilt 2 and it is my first HTC as well as my first WM phone. Prior to this purchase, I have been using kids phone like sony ericsson walkman and stuff like that. I was wondering, what are some apps that is a MUST HAVE for the rhodium? What apps can I download to make my tilt 2 run more smoothly? What can i do to make it run more smoothly? Also, What is HARD SPL? and what is flashing?
Thanks in advance for all inputs!!
I cant wait till i get my tilt 2, delivery should take about a week.
Cheers
Welcome to the windows party!
How do you know if you need to speed it up if you don't even have it yet! At least experience it first hand...
HardSPL is a tool that allows you to flash ROMs to your phone that AT&T didn't supply (Such as a ROM direct from HTC, or a custom rom written by one of the great people here at XDA). Without HardSPL, the only ROM that you can apply to your Tilt2 would be from AT&T.
Must have apps depend on your interests. Some people might like a certain app while others could care less for it. There is a lot out there, and thankfully there is now the App Store that you can browse apps yourself and see what is out there. Look through different roms as well and see the apps that people include there. And feel free to search to your hearts content, using the site and using google. There is a lot of information out there.
As for just getting started here, visit the WIKI page for the Rhodium over at wiki.xda-developers.com as it is a great getting started site. Also tilt2.blownfuze.org is a nice place to get started as well with your new phone.
Jason
hi myrandex, thank you very much for the reply. I have been obsessed over this phone for a few months now and finally saved enough money to purchase one. So i have been reading a little bit about this phone and noticed a general consensus about it having lags and stuff so thats why i asked about apps to make it more smooth.
Sorry as I am complete new and ignorant to WM ... but is the benefit of flashing ROMs to your phone and what exactly does it do? and what is the difference between flashing ROMs and the ROMs that AT&T supplied?
And as for the apps, i know their are tons of apps out there suited for different people and different needs. But i was wondering if there is some apps that are generally appreciated by rhodium users and are considered a 'must haves' for every rhodium user. I remember reader about some apps that allows you to run your rhodium with lesser lag? Im not too sure.
And again, thank you very much for the inputs!
I am very happy and excited to join the WM community hehe. Just cant wait to get my hands on my tilt 2.
Cheers
I am just like you...
you could start here for the basics....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FAQ
gives a lot of info...
then in the ROM development thread.. start with the one for the noobs.. its a sticky..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
try and get as much info from here as possible.. then do your flashing..
good luck..
i too am new to WM, but i would say get use to your phone first before flashing. Once you flash, there might be bugs on the ROM that the chef (person who created the ROM) created and will need updates. Some ROM might clash with some apps and vice versa.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/
Awesome site to find apps.
I suggest the following thread for software you should get: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973&highlight=facebook&page=1
Hope that helps.